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Dat komen voorkom je nooit. Maar de mate waarin ze komen, kun je wel drastisch verminderen.quote:
Ja, dat doet Europa dus met pushbacksquote:Op woensdag 21 juni 2023 20:40 schreef Inbox het volgende:
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Dat komen voorkom je nooit. Maar de mate waarin ze komen, kun je wel drastisch verminderen.
300 Pakistanen overleden, 750 mensen op de boot
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2(...)-intl-hnk/index.html
Hundreds of Pakistanis dead in Mediterranean migrant boat disaster, official says
More than 300 Pakistani nationals have been killed in the sinking of a overcrowded fishing trawler off the coast of Greece, the latest tragedy to expose the refugee crisis confronting the European Union as tens of thousands seek sanctuary from war, persecution and poverty.
The chairman of of Pakistan’s Senate, Muhammad Sadiq Sanjrani, disclosed the numbers in a statement Sunday, sending condolences to grieving families of the dead.
“Our thoughts and prayers are with you, and we pray that the departed souls find eternal peace,” Sanjrani said. “This devastating incident underscores the urgent need to address and condemn the abhorrent act of illegal human trafficking.”
Greek authorities have yet to confirm Pakistan’s death toll.
Pakistan is in the midst of its worst economic crisis in decades, with efforts to secure a financial lifeline from the International Monetary Fund complicated by political turmoil in the country.
Growth has stalled and inflation has soared in the South Asian country of 220 million over the past year. The country has struggled to import essential food products, leading to deadly stampedes at distribution centers.
The number of Pakistanis traversing dangerous routes to Europe in search of a better future has reverberated through the nation, prompting Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif to declare Monday a national day of mourning for those who died in the boat’s sinking.
In a tweet Sunday, he ordered a “high-level inquiry” into the incident.
“I assure the nation that those found negligent towards their duty will be held to account. Responsibility will be fixed after the inquiry and heads will roll,” Sharif wrote.
The boat capsized off the Greek coast last week while traveling from Libya to Italy.
About 750 men, women and children were on the packed boat when it capsized last week, the United Nations Migration Agency (IOM) said, killing hundreds and making the tragedy one of the worst in the Mediterranean Sea, according to the EU Commissioner for Home Affairs Ylva Johansson.
Every year, tens of thousands of migrants fleeing war, persecution, climate change and poverty risk treacherous routes to Europe.
Johansson condemned the role of “smugglers” who put people on the boats.
“They are not sending them to Europe, they are sending them to death. This is what they’re doing and it’s absolutely necessary to prevent it,” she said.
Questions raised
Greek authorities have faced criticism for how the disaster was handled, and uncomfortable questions have been raised about European countries’ attitudes toward migrants.
Despite the dangers, tens of thousands of people are willing to risk everything to make the unsafe journey to Europe, searching for a better life.
At the same time, many European countries have toughened their borders and their stance toward migrants.
Last week, Greek authorities denied claims that the boat had capsized after the coast guard attempted to tow it to shore.
Authorities had initially said the coast guard kept its distance but their assistance “had been declined” after they threw a rope to the vessel to “stabilize and check if it needed help.”
But Tarek Aldroobi, a man who had three relatives on board, told CNN that they had seen Greek authorities towing the vessel with ropes – but says they were tied in the “wrong places,” which caused it to capsize.
“Their boat was in a good condition and the Greek navy tried towing them to the beach but the ropes were tied in the wrong places,” Aldroobi said. “When the Greek navy tried pulling them it caused the boat to capsize.”
Speaking to Greek national broadcaster ERT, government spokesperson Ilias Siakanderis said the coast guard arrived two hours before the boat capsized after its engine broke down and there had been “no connection” between the two.
“The engine broke down at 1:40 a.m. and at 2:00 a.m. it sank – therefore there can be no connection between (the coast guard approaching the boat and the time of its sinking),” he told ERT.
The Hellenic coast guard also defended its response.
“When the boat capsized, we were not even next to boat. How could we be towing it?” Nikos Alexiou, a spokesman for the coast guard told CNN.
Alexiou said their patrol boat only used a small rope to stabilize itself while it was close to the migrant boat hours before it sank, and the patrol boat would have been unable to tow the fishing boat.
“Regretfully there was movement of people, a shift in weight probably caused by panic and the boat capsized. As soon as we got there, we started our rescue operation to collect those who were in the water,” said Alexiou.
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door slashdotter3 op 22-06-2023 11:32:44 ]
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2(...)-intl-hnk/index.html
Hundreds of Pakistanis dead in Mediterranean migrant boat disaster, official says
More than 300 Pakistani nationals have been killed in the sinking of a overcrowded fishing trawler off the coast of Greece, the latest tragedy to expose the refugee crisis confronting the European Union as tens of thousands seek sanctuary from war, persecution and poverty.
The chairman of of Pakistan’s Senate, Muhammad Sadiq Sanjrani, disclosed the numbers in a statement Sunday, sending condolences to grieving families of the dead.
“Our thoughts and prayers are with you, and we pray that the departed souls find eternal peace,” Sanjrani said. “This devastating incident underscores the urgent need to address and condemn the abhorrent act of illegal human trafficking.”
Greek authorities have yet to confirm Pakistan’s death toll.
Pakistan is in the midst of its worst economic crisis in decades, with efforts to secure a financial lifeline from the International Monetary Fund complicated by political turmoil in the country.
Growth has stalled and inflation has soared in the South Asian country of 220 million over the past year. The country has struggled to import essential food products, leading to deadly stampedes at distribution centers.
The number of Pakistanis traversing dangerous routes to Europe in search of a better future has reverberated through the nation, prompting Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif to declare Monday a national day of mourning for those who died in the boat’s sinking.
In a tweet Sunday, he ordered a “high-level inquiry” into the incident.
“I assure the nation that those found negligent towards their duty will be held to account. Responsibility will be fixed after the inquiry and heads will roll,” Sharif wrote.
The boat capsized off the Greek coast last week while traveling from Libya to Italy.
About 750 men, women and children were on the packed boat when it capsized last week, the United Nations Migration Agency (IOM) said, killing hundreds and making the tragedy one of the worst in the Mediterranean Sea, according to the EU Commissioner for Home Affairs Ylva Johansson.
Every year, tens of thousands of migrants fleeing war, persecution, climate change and poverty risk treacherous routes to Europe.
Johansson condemned the role of “smugglers” who put people on the boats.
“They are not sending them to Europe, they are sending them to death. This is what they’re doing and it’s absolutely necessary to prevent it,” she said.
Questions raised
Greek authorities have faced criticism for how the disaster was handled, and uncomfortable questions have been raised about European countries’ attitudes toward migrants.
Despite the dangers, tens of thousands of people are willing to risk everything to make the unsafe journey to Europe, searching for a better life.
At the same time, many European countries have toughened their borders and their stance toward migrants.
Last week, Greek authorities denied claims that the boat had capsized after the coast guard attempted to tow it to shore.
Authorities had initially said the coast guard kept its distance but their assistance “had been declined” after they threw a rope to the vessel to “stabilize and check if it needed help.”
But Tarek Aldroobi, a man who had three relatives on board, told CNN that they had seen Greek authorities towing the vessel with ropes – but says they were tied in the “wrong places,” which caused it to capsize.
“Their boat was in a good condition and the Greek navy tried towing them to the beach but the ropes were tied in the wrong places,” Aldroobi said. “When the Greek navy tried pulling them it caused the boat to capsize.”
Speaking to Greek national broadcaster ERT, government spokesperson Ilias Siakanderis said the coast guard arrived two hours before the boat capsized after its engine broke down and there had been “no connection” between the two.
“The engine broke down at 1:40 a.m. and at 2:00 a.m. it sank – therefore there can be no connection between (the coast guard approaching the boat and the time of its sinking),” he told ERT.
The Hellenic coast guard also defended its response.
“When the boat capsized, we were not even next to boat. How could we be towing it?” Nikos Alexiou, a spokesman for the coast guard told CNN.
Alexiou said their patrol boat only used a small rope to stabilize itself while it was close to the migrant boat hours before it sank, and the patrol boat would have been unable to tow the fishing boat.
“Regretfully there was movement of people, a shift in weight probably caused by panic and the boat capsized. As soon as we got there, we started our rescue operation to collect those who were in the water,” said Alexiou.
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door slashdotter3 op 22-06-2023 11:32:44 ]
Pakistanen die ongevraagd hierheen komen hebben hier ook niks te zoeken.quote:
300 Pakistanen overleden, 750 mensen op de boot
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2(...)-intl-hnk/index.html
Hundreds of Pakistanis dead in Mediterranean migrant boat disaster, official says
More than 300 Pakistani nationals have been killed in the sinking of a overcrowded fishing trawler off the coast of Greece, the latest tragedy to expose the refugee crisis confronting the European Union as tens of thousands seek sanctuary from war, persecution and poverty.
The chairman of of Pakistan’s Senate, Muhammad Sadiq Sanjrani, disclosed the numbers in a statement Sunday, sending condolences to grieving families of the dead.
“Our thoughts and prayers are with you, and we pray that the departed souls find eternal peace,” Sanjrani said. “This devastating incident underscores the urgent need to address and condemn the abhorrent act of illegal human trafficking.”
Greek authorities have yet to confirm Pakistan’s death toll.
Pakistan is in the midst of its worst economic crisis in decades, with efforts to secure a financial lifeline from the International Monetary Fund complicated by political turmoil in the country.
Growth has stalled and inflation has soared in the South Asian country of 220 million over the past year. The country has struggled to import essential food products, leading to deadly stampedes at distribution centers.
The number of Pakistanis traversing dangerous routes to Europe in search of a better future has reverberated through the nation, prompting Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif to declare Monday a national day of mourning for those who died in the boat’s sinking.
In a tweet Sunday, he ordered a “high-level inquiry” into the incident.
“I assure the nation that those found negligent towards their duty will be held to account. Responsibility will be fixed after the inquiry and heads will roll,” Sharif wrote.
The boat capsized off the Greek coast last week while traveling from Libya to Italy.
Greece Coast Guard
The boat capsized off the Greek coast last week while traveling from Libya to Italy.
About 750 men, women and children were on the packed boat when it capsized last week, the United Nations Migration Agency (IOM) said, killing hundreds and making the tragedy one of the worst in the Mediterranean Sea, according to the EU Commissioner for Home Affairs Ylva Johansson.
Every year, tens of thousands of migrants fleeing war, persecution, climate change and poverty risk treacherous routes to Europe.
Johansson condemned the role of “smugglers” who put people on the boats.
“They are not sending them to Europe, they are sending them to death. This is what they’re doing and it’s absolutely necessary to prevent it,” she said.
Questions raised
Greek authorities have faced criticism for how the disaster was handled, and uncomfortable questions have been raised about European countries’ attitudes toward migrants.
Despite the dangers, tens of thousands of people are willing to risk everything to make the unsafe journey to Europe, searching for a better life.
At the same time, many European countries have toughened their borders and their stance toward migrants.
Last week, Greek authorities denied claims that the boat had capsized after the coast guard attempted to tow it to shore.
Authorities had initially said the coast guard kept its distance but their assistance “had been declined” after they threw a rope to the vessel to “stabilize and check if it needed help.”
But Tarek Aldroobi, a man who had three relatives on board, told CNN that they had seen Greek authorities towing the vessel with ropes – but says they were tied in the “wrong places,” which caused it to capsize.
“Their boat was in a good condition and the Greek navy tried towing them to the beach but the ropes were tied in the wrong places,” Aldroobi said. “When the Greek navy tried pulling them it caused the boat to capsize.”
Speaking to Greek national broadcaster ERT, government spokesperson Ilias Siakanderis said the coast guard arrived two hours before the boat capsized after its engine broke down and there had been “no connection” between the two.
“The engine broke down at 1:40 a.m. and at 2:00 a.m. it sank – therefore there can be no connection between (the coast guard approaching the boat and the time of its sinking),” he told ERT.
The Hellenic coast guard also defended its response.
“When the boat capsized, we were not even next to boat. How could we be towing it?” Nikos Alexiou, a spokesman for the coast guard told CNN.
Alexiou said their patrol boat only used a small rope to stabilize itself while it was close to the migrant boat hours before it sank, and the patrol boat would have been unable to tow the fishing boat.
“Regretfully there was movement of people, a shift in weight probably caused by panic and the boat capsized. As soon as we got there, we started our rescue operation to collect those who were in the water,” said Alexiou.
Van mij mogen ze enerzijds opzouten maar anderzijds zou ik in hun positie hetzelfde hebben gedaan.quote:
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Pakistanen die ongevraagd hierheen komen hebben hier ook niks te zoeken.
Jonge mensen uit een land zonder vrijheid, kansen, toekomst, die via internet, Youtube en Westerse media (films, series) weten hoeveel beter het leven is in Westerse landen.
En wiens droom het is om het Westen te bereiken.
Laten we niet vergeten dat half Pakistan maanden onder water heeft gestaan met dank aan de klimaatverandering, en dat de halve industrie daar op z'n gat ligt doordat Pakistan te weinig LNG heeft doordat, toen poep de ventilator raakte in Oekraīne, West-Europa met zo'n dikke portemonnee de LNG-markt op ging dat Pakistan volkomen kansloos was.
Endlösung: gewoon godverdomme die ongelijkheid in de wereld fixen.
Endlösung: gewoon godverdomme die ongelijkheid in de wereld fixen.
En toch is er maar een ding het belangrijkst in hun leven: Allah.quote:
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Van mij mogen ze enerzijds opzouten maar anderzijds zou ik in hun positie hetzelfde hebben gedaan.
Jonge mensen uit een land zonder vrijheid, kansen, toekomst, die via internet, Youtube en Westerse media (films, series) weten hoeveel beter het leven is in Westerse landen.
En wiens droom het is om het Westen te bereiken.
Ze zijn nu in het Paradijs. Versneld maagdjes en geiten neuken
Manier waarop is wel kut. Blijven toch mensen en het is gewoon verschrikkelijk dat het op zon manier moet gebeuren :/
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Er zijn maar 220 miljoen Pakistani, die staan te trappelen om hierheen te komen.
Wat kan er misgaan?
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Meh, denk het niet. Denk dat de jeugd van Pakistan die opgroeit met vpn en het vrije internet wel weet dat het onzin is maar dat kunnen ze natuurlijk niet publiekelijk uiten. Wat ze wel kunnen doen is het land ontvluchten.quote:Op vrijdag 23 juni 2023 00:16 schreef Inbox het volgende:
En toch is er maar een ding het belangrijkst in hun leven: Allah.
[ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door slashdotter3 op 23-06-2023 08:16:23 ]
En als ze eenmaal hier zijn, continu zeiken hoe geweldig hun (vorige) land is.quote:
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Van mij mogen ze enerzijds opzouten maar anderzijds zou ik in hun positie hetzelfde hebben gedaan.
Jonge mensen uit een land zonder vrijheid, kansen, toekomst, die via internet, Youtube en Westerse media (films, series) weten hoeveel beter het leven is in Westerse landen.
En wiens droom het is om het Westen te bereiken.
Tja.
Als mijn post niet duidelijk is, moet je misschien even je sarcasmeradar aanzetten.
Wat ze zouden moeten doen dan is een revolutie in hun land verzorgen en het beter maken.quote:
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Meh, denk het niet. Denk dat de jeugd van Pakistan die opgroeit met vpn en het vrije internet wel weet dat het onzin is maar dat kunnen ze natuurlijk niet publiekelijk uiten. Wat ze wel kunnen doen is het land ontvluchten.
Dat is een van de problemen die ik met ons asielbeleid heb. Zoals het in eerste instantie bedoeld was gaf het juist de mensen die veranderingen zouden kunnen bewerkstelligen een way out. En zoals het nu gemuteerd is geeft het iedereen eigenlijk een way out. Daardoor de garantie dat de landen van herkomst nooit zullen veranderen en verbeteren.
ik ben niet gek.. ik ben volstrekt niet gek, ik ben helemaal niet gek... ik ben een nagemaakte gek
gooi alles weg neem een besluit, doe als het moet alles opnieuw
gooi alles weg neem een besluit, doe als het moet alles opnieuw
De enige reden dat die Afrikanen op die bootjes blijven klimmen is omdat West-Europa ze wortels blijft voorhouden in de vorm van woningen en uitkeringen.quote:
https://nos.nl/artikel/24(...)t-serieus-onderzocht
Weer smerige propaganda op NOS.nl
Het blijft erg bijzonder om te zien dat als migranten (eigenlijk altijd kansarme economische migranten) zelf de meest gevaarlijke capriolen uithalen, door op allerlei krakkemikkige bootjes een oversteek naar Europa te willen maken, de verantwoordelijkheid vervolgens zou liggen bij allerlei Europese landen. Wat belachelijk zeg.
'Zo zielig! Hoe kunnen we dit voorkomen?' (lees: Hoe kunnen we een veiligere oversteek faciliteren).
Deze migranten kunnen dit zelf voorkomen door dit soort risicovolle reizen niet te ondernemen. In de landen van herkomst moet als eerste een veel betere controle worden geregeld (daar mag een berg Europees geld heen wat mij betreft) en op de wateren tussen Noord-Afrika en Europa zelf moet ook veel beter gecontroleerd worden door Europese landen (ook dat mag nog steviger gefinancierd worden).
Mochten migranten dan die twee obstakels weten te overwinnen, moet je een systeem hebben om ze meteen weer terug te sturen naar het land van herkomst. Hier moet ook de wetgeving voor worden aangepast.
'Zo zielig! Hoe kunnen we dit voorkomen?' (lees: Hoe kunnen we een veiligere oversteek faciliteren).
Deze migranten kunnen dit zelf voorkomen door dit soort risicovolle reizen niet te ondernemen. In de landen van herkomst moet als eerste een veel betere controle worden geregeld (daar mag een berg Europees geld heen wat mij betreft) en op de wateren tussen Noord-Afrika en Europa zelf moet ook veel beter gecontroleerd worden door Europese landen (ook dat mag nog steviger gefinancierd worden).
Mochten migranten dan die twee obstakels weten te overwinnen, moet je een systeem hebben om ze meteen weer terug te sturen naar het land van herkomst. Hier moet ook de wetgeving voor worden aangepast.
'I moved to Peru and shaved half my head and wrote for Teen Vogue. If I can come back from the depths of leftism, trust me, anyone can.' - Gina Florio
SPOILER: Everyone Knew the Migrant Ship Was Doomed. No One Helped.Om spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
quote:Preventable, ja inderdaad, zoals hierboven al gezegd. Als die mensen nooit op die boot gestapt waren. Alles wat er verder in dat artikel staat is sentimenteel geblaat.SPOILER: Everyone Knew the Migrant Ship Was Doomed. No One Helped.Om spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.ik ben niet gek.. ik ben volstrekt niet gek, ik ben helemaal niet gek... ik ben een nagemaakte gek
gooi alles weg neem een besluit, doe als het moet alles opnieuw
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