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  dinsdag 22 november 2022 @ 15:59:30 #201
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Aanslag op Iraanse oppositie in Londen verijdeld na waarschuwing van Israel
Dreiging was zo groot dat de politie 7 pantserwagens voor de deur geparkeerd heeft

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Israel tipped off UK about Iranian plan to attack local journalists
Information led to police alerting two reporters from regime-critical Iran International network that they were in danger, foiling plot, says Kan broadcaster

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Aanslag op Iraanse oppositie in Londen verijdeld na waarschuwing van Israel
Dreiging was zo groot dat de politie 7 pantserwagens voor de deur geparkeerd heeft

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Israel tipped off UK about Iranian plan to attack local journalists
Information led to police alerting two reporters from regime-critical Iran International network that they were in danger, foiling plot, says Kan broadcaster

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Dit heeft betrekkelijk weinig met het conflict Israel - palestina te maken.
  dinsdag 22 november 2022 @ 17:21:01 #203
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Daar heb je de volgende generatie terroristen

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)ans_terrorists_from/
interesting clip - palestinians terrorists from Jenin celebrating with their kids(!) their upcoming war and martyrdom.
  dinsdag 22 november 2022 @ 17:24:05 #204
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Dit heeft betrekkelijk weinig met het conflict Israel - palestina te maken.
True!

Wilde er geen apart topic over maken, vond het ook niet echt passen in het Iran topic en vond dit wel een Mossad spionage in Iran achtig iets hebben dus hier maar geplaatst :P
  dinsdag 22 november 2022 @ 23:13:26 #205
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New footage from injured medic’s dashcam shows deadly Kiryat Arba attack unfold
Video from car used by paramedic Ofer Ohana, shot and seriously wounded while responding to October 29 assault, shows gunman opening fire and gun battle with Israeli forces
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Dode en zeker 14 gewonden bij explosies bushaltes in Jeruzalem
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When the student is truly ready, the teacher will disappear.
  woensdag 23 november 2022 @ 21:17:05 #207
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Altijd leerzaam die Quora antwoorden:

https://www.quora.com/Why(...)e-all-world-refugees

Q:Why do Palestinian refugees need a special UN agency (UNRWA) and not been taken care of by the UNHCR like all world refugees?

A: Because Arab refugees from Israel have special rules, which don’t apply to any other refugees in the world.

For example: The UNHCR definition of “refugee” is “someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion”.

The UNRWA defintion of a Palestinian refugee is any Arab who had been in Palestine for two years and then left.

That’s why “Palestinian refugees” include bona fide Iraqis, Yemenis, Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, Lebanese, and other Arabs who came to Palestine in 1946 for economic reasons, and then left in 1948 befoe any fighting began.

When the UN adopted Resolution 181 on 29 November 1947, partitioning Palestine into a Jewish State and an Arab State, there were about 600,000 Arabs living in what was soon to become Israel. In 1949, when the fighting was over, 150,000 still remained. Now the Arab exodus began on 30 November: the Arabs who left then were in no way refugees - they were emigres who left of their own volition.

But never mind, let’s ignore that. Let’s imagone that every single Arab who left was a refugee.

That still makes 450,000 Arab refugees, right?

No, wrong. In 1950, UNRWA officially recognised 1,100,000 Arab refugees. (The appellation “Palestinian” hadn’t yet been invented.)

In fact, any Arab could claim refugee status: there was no apparatus for checking who came from Israel, who came from Iraq, from Syria, and so on.

Indeed the single most famous “Palestinian refugee” in histor was Yasser Arafat, who was Egyptian, born in Cairo to an ancient Egyptian family, and who served as a junior officer in the Egyptan Army in their war of aggression and attempted genocide against Israel in 1948 (which instead became Israel’s War of Independence).

No other refugee group in history has ever had anything even remotely similar.

There are currently about 60 million refugees in the world: 6 million “Palestinians”, cared for by UNRWA, and 54 million others, cared for by the UNHCR.

It is remarkable, then, that UNRWA actually has a greater budget than UNHCR.

When you hear the words “refugee camp”, you probably think of miserable tents, or at best tin shacks, in muddy fields, and half-starved people pleading for scraps of food.

Palestinian refugee camps look like upscale suburbs, with luxurious villas with their own private swimming-pools.

Those refugee camps cost a lot of money to build and upkeep, you know. And providing the weapons and ammunition doesn’t come cheap, either.

Hence the massive budget.
  woensdag 23 november 2022 @ 22:05:41 #208
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tldr: 18 jarige Israelisch Druze Arab gaat met de auto naar Jenin om daar bij een vriend z'n auto te fixen. Ze krijgen een auto ongeluk en hij gaat naar een ziekenhuis in Jenin terwijl een andere inzittende naar een Israelisch ziekenhuis gaat. 20~30 terroristen met machinegeweren denken dat hij een Israelische soldaat is en bestormen het ziekenhuis om hem te ontvoeren en uit te wisselen voor gevangen terroristen. Door die ontvoering wordt hij van alle medische apparatuur losgekoppeld waardoor hij overlijdt...

https://www.timesofisrael(...)-palestinian-gunmen/
Murder’: Uncle of Israeli snatched in Jenin says teen was still alive when taken
Initial reports indicated that Tiran Fero, 18, was already dead when snatched by Palestinian gunmen from West Bank hospital, but uncle says ‘they disconnected him from machines’

Addressing the car crash his nephew was involved in, Edri said Tiran “had traveled to Jenin to fix his car with a friend,” adding that “he must have lost control of the vehicle on the way there.”

Fero’s uncle, however, said his nephew was still alive and connected to a ventilator when he was taken. “They disconnected him from the machines and tossed him into a car,” he told the Kan public radio Wednesday morning.

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Fero was not a soldier, but a 12th grader at a school in the Druze town.

The body is being held in the Jenin Refugee Camp, Haaretz reported, citing several Palestinian sources.

A senior Palestinian official told Haaretz that the suspects snatched the body, thinking Fero was an undercover Israeli soldier.

An unnamed security official told Haaretz that the suspects were demanding the release of Palestinians imprisoned by Israel or the bodies of the bodies of deceased Palestinian terrorists being held by Israel in exchange for Fero.

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  woensdag 23 november 2022 @ 23:08:01 #209
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Wat een kermis...

- een groep Druze wilt naar Jenin om het lichaam op te halen (wat natuurlijk een enorme gunfight gaat worden).
- PA had het lichaam al in een ambulance geladen maar het wegrijden werd geblokkeerd door een menigte.
- er wordt momenteel nog geprobeerd met praten het lichaam terug te krijgen...

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-723116

Druze warn they will enter Jenin if kidnapped teen not returned
Uncle of the Israeli Druze teenager claims that Palestinian terrorists disconnected his nephew from life support while he was still alive.
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According to reports, the Palestinian Authority Security Forces entered the Jenin refugee camp and managed to transfer Ferro’s body to a Red Crescent ambulance. But the ambulance was blocked from leaving the camp by a large crowd that included several gunmen who fired in the air before grabbing the body and heading back toward the camp.
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the uncle also spoke with Gantz and Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories head Maj.-Gen. Ghassan Alian. He told the two officials that the family doesn’t want to risk the lives of soldiers to retrieve the body.

“We’re willing to wait a few more days, I don’t want another mother in Israel to cry,” he said.
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Hundreds of demonstrators protested in front of the council building in Daliat al-Carmel on Wednesday, calling for the return of Ferro’s body. Some of the demonstrators warned that if the body is not returned, “all of us Druze will enter Jenin.”

Daliat al-Carmel Council head Rafik Halabi asked Druze citizens not to go to the Jenin checkpoint or into Jenin itself.
  donderdag 24 november 2022 @ 07:40:58 #210
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Lichaam is inmiddels terug nadat Isral met de Palestijnse Autoriteit heeft onderhandeld. Aanvankelijk werd er vanuit Jenin geist dat er Palestijnse gevangenen geruild werden voor het lichaam maar de Autoriteit vond de puinzooi zelf ook behoorlijk gnant worden en heeft het zonder meer teruggegeven aan de familie.
  dinsdag 29 november 2022 @ 17:02:31 #211
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Heel spijtig voor die vrouw maar ook wel begrijpelijk voor Israel. Als je daaraan gaat beginnen dan zijn er nog 100en miljoenen soortgelijke gevallen die je binnen moet laten of op z'n minst de zaak van in behandeling moet nemen.

Een soortgelijke situatie was er tussen 2005~2014, ze werden overspoeld met 55k Afrikanen totdat er een groot was gebouwd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigration_to_Israel.

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Israel's Interior Minister Rejects Asylum Request of a Woman Facing Female Genital Mutilation
Against her ministry's recommendation, Ayelet Shaked said that a distinction needs to be made among its various forms and that asylum cannot be given to any woman subject to a practice that is so widespread in the developing world

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Israel's outgoing Interior Minister Ayelet Shaked has refused to grant asylum to a refugee who is likely to face female genital mutilation, despite the fact that the request was unanimously supported by her ministry's consultative committee on refugee policy.

Shaked’s detailed decision acknowledges that the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled that female genital mutilation can be grounds for the granting of refugee status in some instances. However, she stated that the Geneva Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees is not designed to address all of the difficulties and hardships suffered by hundreds of millions of people in developing countries. A threshold of some kind is required as sufficient grounds for persecution to provide a basis for refugee status, Shaked stated.

The minister made it clear that she condemns all forms of female genital mutilation but said that it was not reasonable for Israel to recognize all forms of a cultural practice with an impact on hundreds of millions of people as grounds for refugee status in Israel.

As a matter of principle, female genital mutilation is not one specific practice, she wrote. There are a number of different forms of the practice, and they need to be distinguished from one another, she said.

In practice, Shaked stated, some of them are similar or milder than ceremonial male circumcision. Only a portion of them have the potential to inflict sufficient serious harm that could be considered persecution.

Shaked’s decision states that there is a worrying trend in the Western world that seeks to blur any distinctions among various female genital mutilation practices and that also draws a parallel between female and male circumcision to ban Jews from practicing male ritual circumcision.

Israel signed the Geneva convention on refugees, but it was never ratified by the Knesset. In addition, the Israeli law on entry into the country explicitly states that those who enter Israel illegally should be expelled as quickly as possible. It is therefore argued that the interior minister should construe Israel’s obligations narrowly.

The Hotline for Refugees and Migrants condemned Shaked’s decision and said it was “shameful” that she would consider the decision the basis for what the organization claimed was “a final round of public relations before she leaves the ministry.”

In the specific case before the committee, Shaked stated that the committee was mistaken because it based its decision primarily on the high proportion of females in the West African country of Sierra Leone who are circumcised, mostly as children.

The practice has wide support in the country, Shaked claimed, and there is greater support for it among women than men, including women who have undergone it. In any event, she said, it would be unlikely that a woman seeking asylum in Israel from Sierra Leone would be forced to undergo it in her home country.
  dinsdag 29 november 2022 @ 17:16:46 #212
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Heel spijtig voor die vrouw maar ook wel begrijpelijk voor Israel. Als je daaraan gaat beginnen dan zijn er nog 100en miljoenen soortgelijke gevallen die je binnen moet laten of op z'n minst de zaak van in behandeling moet nemen.

Een soortgelijke situatie was er tussen 2005~2014, ze werden overspoeld met 55k Afrikanen totdat er een groot was gebouwd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigration_to_Israel.

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https://www.haaretz.com/i(...)36-affd-c7f79eee0000
Israel's Interior Minister Rejects Asylum Request of a Woman Facing Female Genital Mutilation
Against her ministry's recommendation, Ayelet Shaked said that a distinction needs to be made among its various forms and that asylum cannot be given to any woman subject to a practice that is so widespread in the developing world
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Ik vind het een vreselijke beslissing. Als er eentje in slaagt binnen te komen mag ze niet blijven omdat er teveel zijn die dat niet lukt die hetzelfde risico lopen.

Hopelijk komt er een beschaafder land als Canada over de brug.
  zaterdag 3 december 2022 @ 00:43:26 #213
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Border Police officer stabbed, wounded in West Bank; Palestinian attacker shot dead
After stabbing, suspect tussles with officer and tries to grab his gun before being shot at close range, the 9th Palestinian to be killed in West Bank violence in last four days

A Palestinian man stabbed and wounded a Border Police officer in the northern West Bank town of Hawara on Friday, before being shot dead by Israeli forces, police and medics said.

Border Police said in a statement that a team of officers was operating in the flashpoint Palestinian town when the suspect pulled a knife and managed to stab one of the officers, lightly injuring him.

Other officers then “neutralized” the attacker, the statement said.

Footage posted to social media showed a Border Police officer trying to apprehend the suspect as two other Palestinians were trying to pull him free.

An officer managed to pull the alleged stabber away from them in a headlock, but the suspect then briefly freed himself from his grasp and appeared to try and grab the officer’s automatic weapon.

The officer then allowed the weapon to fall to the ground as he pulled a handgun from a holster and fired four times point-blank, killing the suspect. He then retrieved his automatic weapon and appears to call for backup before the video clip ends.

Border Police said that the officer with stab wounds was subsequently evacuated for medical treatment, as was the officer who subdued the attacker. Both were lightly wounded.

Hawara is a frequent flashpoint with a highway running through the town being a main route for settlers traveling in the northern West Bank.

A later police statement said that the incident started when the Palestinian tried to enter a vehicle with an Israeli couple in. While trying to break through the locked door, one of the occupants — an off-duty IDF officer — shot and apparently wounded the man with his handgun.

The attacker then ran at a nearby Border Police officer and stabbed him.

The dead attacker was not immediately identified, but he was the ninth Palestinian killed in West Bank violence in less than four days.

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  zaterdag 3 december 2022 @ 01:05:54 #214
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  zaterdag 3 december 2022 @ 01:47:49 #216
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Megaverwarrend incident waarbij je opinie constant blijft verschuiven...

Als je dat filmpje bekijkt lijkt het erop dat die jongen ge-executeerd wordt. - Israel slecht
Dan blijkt dat hij idd het geweer van de agent in z'n handen had - jongen slecht
Vijand heeft je geweer in handen, reden genoeg om hem snel neer te schieten. Maar vijand gooit geweer 1 sec vantevoren weg, dus hij was ongewapend... maar 1 seconde is natuurlijk niet genoeg om de situatie rustig te heroverwegen. - voor beide kanten is wel wat te zeggen.

Zo'n jonge knaap die een auto met 2 inzittenden aanvalt en daarna een border agent met een mes verwond terwijl hij even daarvoor vraagt wat hij voor z'n moeder moet meenemen van de supermarkt is nogal ongeloofwaardig.

Maar waar komt die foto van die agent met die snee in z'n hoofd dan weer vandaan... :?
  dinsdag 3 januari 2023 @ 13:40:59 #217
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Eerste daad van de nieuwe minister Ben Gvir, een veroordeelde extreem-rechtse activist: lekker de Tempelberg op. Valt me nog mee dat ie het niet op vrijdag deed. De tweede Intifada begon door een dergelijk geintje van Sharon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64150409

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Mr Ben-Gvir's visit was his first public act since the government, led by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was sworn in five days ago.

The hilltop site is the most sacred place in Judaism and the third holiest in Islam. It is known to Jews as the Temple Mount, site of two Biblical temples, and to Muslims as Haram al-Sharif, the site of Muhammad's ascent to Heaven. The entire compound is considered to be al-Aqsa Mosque by Muslims.

Jews and other non-Muslims are allowed to go to the compound but not pray, though Palestinians see visits by Jews as attempts to change the delicate status quo.
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Nu is er eigenlijk ook iets te zeggen vind ik voor die status quo waarbij de Waqf alles bepaalt waaronder dat alleen moslims op die berg mogen bidden en ik vind er ook wat van om dit als provocatie te zien, maar dat maakt dit nog steeds net zozeer een provocatie als wanneer Pegida een punt komt maken bij een moskee: het losgeslagen gekrijs bewijst het punt maar maakt de provocateur niet meer dan dat.

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Muslim prayer continued to be the only form of worship allowed there, although a bar on Jewish visits was lifted. Palestinians argue that in recent years, steps have been taken that undermine the status quo, with Orthodox Jewish visitors often seen praying quietly without being stopped by Israeli police.

The number of visits by Jews has swelled in the past few years, something Palestinians claim is part of a surreptitious attempt to take over the site.
Opnieuw de twee kanten: ik vind het niet okay dat het alleenrecht om er te bidden wordt geclaimd door de islamitische organisaties maar hun angst dat dit de aanzet is om de hele handel over te nemen is terecht.

Korte samenvatting van wie Ben Gvir is op Al Jazeera:

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A settler in Kiryat Araba, one of the most right-wing settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank, which is not recognised under international law, Ben-Gvir has been convicted of incitement to racism, destroying property, possessing a “terror” organisation’s propaganda material and supporting a “terror” organisation – Meir Kahane’s outlawed Kach group, which he joined when he was 16.

Ben-Gvir was also notorious for displaying on his wall a picture of Baruch Goldstein, the American Israeli who massacred 29 Palestinian worshippers at the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron in 1994.
  dinsdag 3 januari 2023 @ 13:54:00 #218
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Waarom zijn er eigenlijk geen Palestijnen die proberen vrede te sluiten met Israel?
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En het verhaal met foto van de Israelische politie
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Het was al een raar verhaal maar deze claim ook

Dus terrorist valt terwijl hij geraakt is door een vuurwapen een groepje grenswachten aan en uiteindelijk beland hij samen met passanten in een worsteling met de oppergrenswacht terwijl en dat maakt het helemaal raar de andere grenswachten even iets anders aan het doen zijn?

Is dit weer zo'n gefabriceerd verhaal?
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Waarom zijn er eigenlijk geen Palestijnen die proberen vrede te sluiten met Israel?
Die vraag is ook andersom te stellen gezien de regering die Isral gekozen heeft
  dinsdag 3 januari 2023 @ 14:44:52 #221
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Die vraag is ook andersom te stellen gezien de regering die Isral gekozen heeft
Nou inderdaad...

Netanyahu heeft trouwens wel meteen een gebaar gemaakt naar de Arabische gemeenschappen van 30 miljard NS. Verrassend positief en tegelijk een politieke lange neus omdat hij precies hetzelfde gebaar vanuit het vorige kabinet vanuit de oppositie torpedeerde.

Soapserie is het.
  dinsdag 3 januari 2023 @ 16:42:33 #222
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Die vraag is ook andersom te stellen gezien de regering die Isral gekozen heeft
Als je enig histories besef had, zou je weten dat Isral lang het streven heeft gehad vrede te sluiten met de Palestijnen en daarna met de Arabische buurlanden. Dit faalde. Isral heeft daarom het roer omgegooid en is vrede met de buurlanden gaan sluiten.
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Als je enig histories besef had, zou je weten dat Isral lang het streven heeft gehad vrede te sluiten met de Palestijnen en daarna met de Arabische buurlanden. Dit faalde. Isral heeft daarom het roer omgegooid en is vrede met de buurlanden gaan sluiten.
Isral en vrede, laat me niet lachen, stelletje landje pikkers
  dinsdag 3 januari 2023 @ 16:45:30 #224
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Isral en vrede, laat me niet lachen, stelletje landje pikkers
Goed argument.
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Goed argument.
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