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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:00 schreef TTSS het volgende:

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Denk niet dat Mortie dit zo bedoelt
You kid me not
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:08 schreef EttovanBelgie het volgende:

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Hetgeen geen dubbele standaarden waren..

Begin die asperger steeds beter te begrijpen.
Ik jou steeds minder, stukje zelfreflectie zou je niet misstaan.
Que fácil fue tocar el cielo la primera vez
Cuando los besos fueron el motor de arranque
Que encendió la luz que hoy se desaparece
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:09:12 #128
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
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You kid me not
myrradelic
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:09:22 #129
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:09 schreef TTSS het volgende:

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Ik jou steeds minder, stukje zelfreflectie zou je niet misstaan.
:Z
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
  Beste/leukste mod 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:09:32 #130
319979 Fok-it
All is well
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Ik mis het geilen op die ene collega.
Goeie reden om Teams op een leuke manier te gebruiken
“And forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair.”
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:10:48 #131
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
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Goeie reden om Teams op een leuke manier te gebruiken
caffeïnevergiftiging, what a way to go
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
  Beste/leukste mod 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:11:53 #132
319979 Fok-it
All is well
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:10 schreef EttovanBelgie het volgende:

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caffeïnevergiftiging, what a way to go
Koffie is een walgelijke drocht
“And forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair.”
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:09 schreef Fok-it het volgende:

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Goeie reden om Teams op een leuke manier te gebruiken
Hij is geen directe collega
  dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:12:44 #134
176450 Kaneelstokje
Archbishop of Banterbury
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Koffie is drugs.
Say no to drugs.
Emotionele exclusiviteit monogamie-adept
  † In Memoriam † dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:13:17 #135
88815 The_Emotion
98.3
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"Scientists are actually preoccupied with accomplishment. So they are focused on whether they can do something. They never stop to ask if they should do something."
- Ian Malcolm
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:13:53 #136
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
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Koffie is een walgelijke drocht
kom vechten
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
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Etto die gaat haten op moslims, maar vervolgens op de knieën gaat voor zijn Heer. :')
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:14:05 #138
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
pi_193325087
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
  Beste/leukste mod 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:14:27 #139
319979 Fok-it
All is well
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Koffie is drugs.
Say no to drugs.
Wel eens.

Je futloos voelen en hele sloten koffie per dag wegwerken. Tsja. Dat gaat hem nie worden nie
“And forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair.”
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:14:36 #140
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
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Etto die gaat haten op moslims, maar vervolgens op de knieën gaat voor zijn Heer. :')
De Heer die ik dien flikkert dan ook geen mensen in een eeuwig durend vuur. En al helemaal niet omdat je een varkensrollade wegwerkt.
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:14 schreef Cronometer_ het volgende:
Etto die gaat haten op moslims, maar vervolgens op de knieën gaat voor zijn Heer. :')
Echt hé... :')
Que fácil fue tocar el cielo la primera vez
Cuando los besos fueron el motor de arranque
Que encendió la luz que hoy se desaparece
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:14 schreef EttovanBelgie het volgende:

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De Heer die ik dien flikkert dan ook geen mensen in een eeuwig durend vuur.
Want dat heeft Etto zelf zo bedacht.
Que fácil fue tocar el cielo la primera vez
Cuando los besos fueron el motor de arranque
Que encendió la luz que hoy se desaparece
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:14 schreef EttovanBelgie het volgende:

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De Heer die ik dien flikkert dan ook geen mensen in een eeuwig durend vuur. En al helemaal niet omdat je een varkensrollade wegwerkt.
Oh nee? Wat doet hij met zondaren dan wel?
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:15:57 #144
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:15 schreef TTSS het volgende:

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Want dat heeft Etto zelf zo bedacht.
Neuh.

https://books.google.nl/b(...)universalism&f=false
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
  Beste/leukste mod 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:16:37 #145
319979 Fok-it
All is well
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:15 schreef Cronometer_ het volgende:

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Oh nee? Wat doet hij met zondaren dan wel?
Is dat cybergeilen van jou wel halal overigens? Niet helemaal he
“And forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair.”
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:16:47 #146
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:15 schreef Cronometer_ het volgende:

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Oh nee? Wat doet hij met zondaren dan wel?
Reinigen, zuiveren.

Dat, of complete vernietiging, voor annihilationisme valt ook wat te zeggen.

Eeuwige marteling is daarentegen een dogma dat pas sinds Augustinus breed gedragen wordt.
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
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Je bent toch Katholiek? Wat leert je Cathechismus 1035? Als dat niet relevant is, waarom committeer je jezelf dan aan een kerk? Je doet precies hetzelfde wat je protestanten verwijt...
Que fácil fue tocar el cielo la primera vez
Cuando los besos fueron el motor de arranque
Que encendió la luz que hoy se desaparece
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:16 schreef EttovanBelgie het volgende:

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Eeuwige marteling is daarentegen een dogma dat pas sinds Augustinus breed gedragen wordt.
Bullshit:

Ignatius of Antioch
“Corrupters of families will not inherit the kingdom of God. And if they who do these things according to the flesh suffer death, how much more if a man corrupt by evil teaching the faith of God for the sake of which Jesus Christ was crucified? A man become so foul will depart into unquenchable fire: and so will anyone who listens to him” (Letter to the Ephesians 16:1–2 [A.D. 110]).

Second Clement
“If we do the will of Christ, we shall obtain rest; but if not, if we neglect his commandments, nothing will rescue us from eternal punishment” (Second Clement 5:5 [A.D. 150]).

“But when they see how those who have sinned and who have denied Jesus by their words or by their deeds are punished with terrible torture in unquenchable fire, the righteous, who have done good, and who have endured tortures and have hated the luxuries of life, will give glory to their God saying, ‘There shall be hope for him that has served God with all his heart!’” (ibid., 17:7).

Justin Martyr
“No more is it possible for the evildoer, the avaricious, and the treacherous to hide from God than it is for the virtuous. Every man will receive the eternal punishment or reward which his actions deserve. Indeed, if all men recognized this, no one would choose evil even for a short time, knowing that he would incur the eternal sentence of fire” (First Apology 12 [A.D. 151]).

“We have been taught that only they may aim at immortality who have lived a holy and virtuous life near to God. We believe that they who live wickedly and do not repent will be punished in everlasting fire” (ibid., 21).

“[Jesus] shall come from the heavens in glory with his angelic host, when he shall raise the bodies of all the men who ever lived. Then he will clothe the worthy in immortality; but the wicked, clothed in eternal sensibility, he will commit to the eternal fire, along with the evil demons” (ibid., 52).

The Martyrdom of Polycarp
“Fixing their minds on the grace of Christ, [the martyrs] despised worldly tortures and purchased eternal life with but a single hour. To them, the fire of their cruel torturers was cold. They kept before their eyes their escape from the eternal and unquenchable fire” (Martyrdom of Polycarp 2:3 [A.D. 155]).

Mathetes
“When you know what is the true life, that of heaven; when you despise the merely apparent death, which is temporal; when you fear the death which is real, and which is reserved for those who will be condemned to the everlasting fire, the fire which will punish even to the end those who are delivered to it, then you will condemn the deceit and error of the world” (Letter to Diognetus 10:7 [A.D. 160]).

Athenagoras
“[W]e [Christians] are persuaded that when we are removed from this present life we shall live another life, better than the present one. . . . Then we shall abide near God and with God, changeless and free from suffering in the soul . . . or if we fall with the rest [of mankind], a worse one and in fire; for God has not made us as sheep or beasts of burden, a mere incidental work, that we should perish and be annihilated” (Plea for the Christians 31 [A.D. 177]).

Theophilus of Antioch
“ [God] will examine everything and will judge justly, granting recompense to each according to merit. To those who seek immortality by the patient exercise of good works, he will give everlasting life, joy, peace, rest, and all good things. . . . For the unbelievers and for the contemptuous, and for those who do not submit to the truth but assent to iniquity, when they have been involved in adulteries, and fornications, and homosexualities, and avarice, and in lawless idolatries, there will be wrath and indignation, tribulation and anguish; and in the end, such men as these will be detained in everlasting fire” (To Autolycus 1:14 [A.D. 181]).

Irenaeus
“[God will] send the spiritual forces of wickedness, and the angels who transgressed and became apostates, and the impious, unjust, lawless, and blasphemous among men into everlasting fire” (Against Heresies 1:10:1 [A.D. 189]).

“The penalty increases for those who do not believe the Word of God and despise his coming. . . . [I]t is not merely temporal, but eternal. To whomsoever the Lord shall say, ‘Depart from me, accursed ones, into the everlasting fire,’ they will be damned forever” (ibid., 4:28:2).

Tertullian
“After the present age is ended he will judge his worshipers for a reward of eternal life and the godless for a fire equally perpetual and unending” (Apology 18:3 [A.D. 197]).

“Then will the entire race of men be restored to receive its just deserts according to what it has merited in this period of good and evil, and thereafter to have these paid out in an immeasurable and unending eternity. . . . The worshipers of God shall always be with God, clothed in the proper substance of eternity. But the godless and those who have not turned wholly to God will be punished in fire equally unending” (ibid., 44:12–13).

Hippolytus
“To those who have done well, everlasting enjoyment shall be given; while to the lovers of evil shall be given eternal punishment. The unquenchable and unending fire awaits these latter, and a certain fiery worm which does not die and which does not waste the body but continually bursts forth from the body with unceasing pain. No sleep will give them rest; no night will soothe them; no death will deliver them from punishment; no appeal of interceding friends will profit them” (Against the Greeks 3 [A.D. 212]).

Minucius Felix
“I am not ignorant of the fact that many, in the consciousness of what they deserve, would rather hope than actually believe that there is nothing for them after death. They would prefer to be annihilated rather than be restored for punishment. . . . Nor is there either measure nor end to these torments” (Octavius 34:12–5:3 [A.D. 226]).

Cyprian of Carthage
“An ever-burning Gehenna and the punishment of being devoured by living flames will consume the condemned; nor will there be any way in which the tormented can ever have respite or be at an end. Souls along with their bodies will be preserved for suffering in unlimited agonies. . . . The grief at punishment will then be without the fruit of repentance; weeping will be useless, and prayer ineffectual. Too late will they believe in eternal punishment, who would not believe in eternal life” (To Demetrian 24 [A.D. 252]).

Lactantius
“[T]he sacred writings inform us in what manner the wicked are to undergo punishment. For because they have committed sins in their bodies, they will again be clothed with flesh, that they may make atonement in their bodies; and yet it will not be that flesh with which God clothed man, like this our earthly body, but indestructible, and abiding forever, that it may be able to hold out against tortures and everlasting fire. . . . The same divine fire, therefore, with one and the same force and power, will both burn the wicked and will form them again, and will replace as much as it shall consume of their bodies, and will supply itself with eternal nourishment” (Divine Institutes 7:21 [A.D. 307]).

Cyril of Jerusalem
“We shall be raised therefore, all with our bodies eternal, but not all with bodies alike: for if a man is righteous, he will receive a heavenly body, that he may be able worthily to hold converse with angels; but if a man is a sinner, he shall receive an eternal body, fitted to endure the penalties of sins, that he may burn eternally in fire, nor ever be consumed. And righteously will God assign this portion to either company; for we do nothing without the body. We blaspheme with the mouth, and with the mouth we pray. With the body we commit fornication, and with the body we keep chastity. With the hand we rob, and by the hand we bestow alms; and the rest in like manner. Since then the body has been our minister in all things, it shall also share with us in the future the fruits of the past” (Catechetical Lectures 18:19 [A.D. 350]).
Que fácil fue tocar el cielo la primera vez
Cuando los besos fueron el motor de arranque
Que encendió la luz que hoy se desaparece
  Beste debater 2022 dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:18:24 #149
396730 EttovanBelgie
Alles komt goed.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 19:17 schreef TTSS het volgende:

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Je bent toch Katholiek? Wat leert je Cathechismus 1035? Als dat niet relevant is, waarom committeer je jezelf dan aan een kerk? Je doet precies hetzelfde wat je protestanten verwijt...
De traditie, de cultuur, de kernboodschap... namelijk dat geloven alleen niet genoeg is; de mens heeft verantwoordelijkheid en een vrije wil.
Omnibus in omnibus.
Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam
  roze dinsdag 26 mei 2020 @ 19:18:50 #150
393783 Ama
Hypa Hypa
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 26 mei 2020 18:57 schreef EttovanBelgie het volgende:
Hoezo, @:Amarantha
Hoezo wat?
Your beauty never ever scared me.
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