WLR Wielrennen
Het blijft toch een merkwaardige sport hè, dat wielrennen.
Alle Frankskes op Thomas de GENOTquote:Op maandag 18 mei 2020 21:23 schreef wimderon het volgende:
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Bebaarde Miesjel en José mogen weer.
Genoten, echt genoten. Het is koers.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Put these foolish ambitions to rest.
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Genoten, echt genoten. Het is koers.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Echte kenners hier in WLR.quote:
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Ik zet mijn geld op Nguyen voor de eindoverwinning.Jack does it in real time...
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Genoten, echt genoten. Het is koers.Ik zet in op Perez. Die was toch ook de vorige eindwinnaar?SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
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Zeg het maar, jongens.quote:En dan dropt Pevenage toch weer een bommetje. “Of het wielrennen nu proper is? Schoner”, zegt hij. “Zeker niet zoals vroeger. Dat kan ook niet. Nee, ik denk dat het wielrennen nu proper is.” Maar hij vertelt er meteen ook bij dat dokter Ferrari, de man achter Lance Armstrong, nog actief is. Ondanks een levenslange schorsing.
“Hij werkt in Tenerife, op de Teide”, zegt Pevenage. “Normaal zouden ze dat moeten weten. Ík weet het, terwijl ik niets meer te maken heb met wielrennen. Testarossa. Ze noemen hem geen Ferrari meer. Zijn naam is nu Testarossa. Het interesseert me niet waarom hij daar is. Ik weet dat hij er werkt. Misschien gebruiken renners nu kleinere dosissen, zodat het in hun bloedpaspoort niet zichtbaar is.”
Het blijft toch een merkwaardige sport hè, dat wielrennen.
heywoodu
Van bijna dood tot olympiër:
Trainen op de Teide is verdacht? Jeetje.
Van bijna dood op weg naar de Olympische Spelen, tot olympiër in 2026? Elk beetje hulp wordt bijzonder gewaardeerd!
https://www.gofundme.com/(...)he-spelen-na-ongeval
https://www.gofundme.com/(...)he-spelen-na-ongeval
Oh onze jongens trainen ook wel eens op de Teide, maar die reden alleen op een boterham met oude kaas!
twitter:DataCycling twitterde op dinsdag 19-05-2020 om 10:55:20 💰 The 5 best paid cyclists in 2020 according to @lequipe newspaper published today 👇
1️⃣ @petosagan - 5M¤
2️⃣ @chrisfroome - 4.5M¤
3️⃣ @GeraintThomas86 - 3.5M¤
4️⃣ @Eganbernal - 2.7M¤
5️⃣ @FabioAru1 - 2.6M¤
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💰 The 5 best paid cyclists in 2020 according to @twitter:DataCycling twitterde op dinsdag 19-05-2020 om 14:21:15 @scvdw @MenaspaP @lequipe @petosagan @chrisfroome @GeraintThomas86 @Eganbernal @FabioAru1 6️⃣ @kwiato - 2.5M¤
7️⃣ @alafpolak1 - 2.3M¤
8️⃣ @alejanvalverde - 2.2M¤
9️⃣ @vincenzonibali & @RichardCarapazM - 2.1M¤
1️⃣1️⃣ @ThibautPinot & @rogla - 2M¤
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twitter:DataCycling twitterde op dinsdag 19-05-2020 om 14:21:34 @scvdw @MenaspaP @lequipe @petosagan @chrisfroome @GeraintThomas86 @Eganbernal @FabioAru1 @kwiato @alafpolak1 @alejanvalverde @vincenzonibali @RichardCarapazM @ThibautPinot @rogla 1️⃣3️⃣ @NairoQuinCo & @eliaviviani - 1.9M¤
1️⃣5️⃣ @tom_dumoulin & @FndoGaviria - 1.8M¤
1️⃣7️⃣ @romainbardet - 1.7M¤
1️⃣8️⃣ @GregVanAvermaet - 1.6M¤
1️⃣9️⃣ @SupermanlopezN - 1.5M¤
Source: L'Equipe
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Of heeft Raiola als zaakwaarnemer?quote:
Aru zou opgepakt moet worden voor diefstal.
Top-3 is ook wel overbetaald m.i. zou ze geen van alleen bij de beste 10 van het seizoen zetten.quote:
Aru zou opgepakt moet worden voor diefstal.
In de tijd dat die contracten werden getekend waren ze behoorlijk marktconform. Froome tekende in de tijd dat hij op weg was recordhouder te worden, niet toen er vraagtekens waren of hij ooit nog op niveau gaat komen. Thomas was op het moment regerend winnaar. Peto is het misschien nog steeds waard als je media aandacht meeweegt.quote:Op dinsdag 19 mei 2020 15:32 schreef Immerdebestebob het volgende:
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Top-3 is ook wel overbetaald m.i. zou ze geen van alleen bij de beste 10 van het seizoen zetten.
Put these foolish ambitions to rest.
Roglic verlengde z'n contract toen hij op weg was naar Vuelta-winst (al was het misschien al eerder rond), toen was hij qua prestaties de beste renner van het seizoen. Dat heeft Jumbo dan netjes gedaan als hij niet eens top-10 staat qua best betaalde renners en nog achter Carapaz die ook in die periode z'n contract tekende en eigenlijk buiten de Girowinst niet zoveel heeft laten zien vorig jaar..
Die tekende z'n contract toen hij net die hele goede Tour had gereden en nog een tijdje in het geel reed. UAE had toen nog geen renners voor een grote ronde en wel heel veel geld, dus die hebben vast ook overbetaald om hem binnen te kunnen halen.. Al is het alsnog wel een goede deal.quote:
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Of heeft Raiola als zaakwaarnemer?
Z'n contract loopt eind dit jaar af, zie ik, dus die staat er volgend jaar vast niet meer in.
Best wel bizar dat Roglic met 2 miljoen akkoord is gegaan bij zijn verlenging september vorig jaar.quote:
En ook Groenewegen verlengde eind vorig seizoen. En die staat er niet eens tussen. En non-valeurs als Viviani en Nando wel.quote:
Roglic verlengde z'n contract toen hij op weg was naar Vuelta-winst (al was het misschien al eerder rond), toen was hij qua prestaties de beste renner van het seizoen. Dat heeft Jumbo dan netjes gedaan als hij niet eens top-10 staat qua best betaalde renners en nog achter Carapaz die ook in die periode z'n contract tekende en eigenlijk buiten de Girowinst niet zoveel heeft laten zien vorig jaar..
#SamenWinnenquote:
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Best wel bizar dat Roglic met 2 miljoen akkoord is gegaan bij zijn verlenging september vorig jaar.
Dat is de mokerdomme tactiek die vaak toegepast worden bij ploegen die opeens een zak geld tot hun beschikking krijgen. Met als gevolg dat je jaren vastzit aan duurbetaalde net niet-jongens. Je moet in zo'n geval gewoon even geduld hebben totdat hetgeen op de markt komt wat je echt wilt hebben.quote:
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Die tekende z'n contract toen hij net die hele goede Tour had gereden en nog een tijdje in het geel reed. UAE had toen nog geen renners voor een grote ronde en wel heel veel geld, dus die hebben vast ook overbetaald om hem binnen te kunnen halen.. Al is het alsnog wel een goede deal.
Z'n contract loopt eind dit jaar af, zie ik, dus die staat er volgend jaar vast niet meer in.
Dat zie je in het voetbal ook vaak, je kunt de klok erop gelijk zetten dat dit bij Newcastle en Hertha gaat gebeuren.
Ellingworth focused on Landa but has spoken to Chris Froome about 2021
t’s widely regarded that while most teams would jump at the chance to sign Chris Froome, the reality is that few could afford the four-time Tour de France winner.
The leading contenders consist of wealthy teams with room for multiple Grand Tour leaders on their roster, and while Bahrain-McLaren tick those two boxes, manager Rod Ellingworth has told Cyclingnews that his team are in a holding pattern around contract negotiations.
The former Team Sky coach has disclosed that he and Froome are in contact – as he is with a number of his former riders – but contract talks have presently remained outside of their conversations.
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"Someone is going to have to take the punt and I don’t think it’s right to get into a chat about if we’ll take him or not and what the percentage chances are," Ellingworth told Cyclingnews, as he effectively ended any talk of a possible mid-season transfer.
"I still speak to a lot of the guys at Ineos anyway. Some of them have always seen me as someone who will give them honest opinions, even if I work for someone else. Yes, I’ve spoken to some and yes, I’ve spoken to Chris but in our conversations it’s been about how he’s going and the situation that we’re in.
"We speak, if you like, like I do with Luke Rowe or Geraint Thomas. We’ve had such long histories. So I’ve had a call with Chris but it wasn’t just about contracts. Yes, we’ve talked about the situation, the crash he had, and the future."
The transfer market is a complicated landscape at present. Teams are seeing sponsors drop out and wages are either being cut or deferred as teams try and stave off the economic effects of COVID-19.
Ellingworth’s team are no exception and publicly stating any concrete interest in a rider of Froome’s value could have a destabilizing effect on the roster. At the same time, Ellingworth has seen first hand how dominant Froome can be in Grand Tours, and he also believes that the former Tour winner can bounce back from his 2019 crash.
"The one thing is that he has a high price tag. Only so many teams can afford him, and the reason why I won’t say either way is because I don’t know what will happen with our team going forward. Some doors close and others open. Three months ago, we were all singing and dancing as a new team and then we get kicked in the teeth like everyone else has because of the virus," Ellingworth said.
"I wouldn’t say that he was someone that would be absolutely targeted by us. What we’re doing is building a team with the aim of winning Grand Tours. I know that Chris is out of contract and I have spoken to him about it. I wouldn’t say that we’re looking at him as an option right now but you’ve got to look at everyone. But right now we’ve got other things to be thinking about at the minute other than trying to recruit Chris Froome. I know that he’s looking around but right now I’d say there’s maybe a higher chance of him staying where he is, possibly."
Ellingworth, who announced that Bahrain McLaren’s main objective over the coming years was to challenge Team Ineos and the rest of the peloton Tour de France titles, did add that he believes Froome could return to the top of the sport after his 2019 crash, citing Froome’s personality and a similar situation involving another of his former Team Sky athletes.
"The one thing I know about Chris is that when he says he can still win, you wouldn’t put it past him. I remember when Luke Rowe had his accident. It was pretty severe, with multiple fractures, but he came back stronger because of the will to come back and the desire. Knowing Chris, he’s a proper fighter."
Landa
Bahrain McLaren signed several high-profile riders over the winter as they looked to improve their stage racing core. Rohan Dennis was relieved of his duties after walking out at the 2019 Tour de France, while Wout Poels and Mikel Landa – both of whom rode for Ellingworth at Team Sky – were drafted in alongside Pello Bilbao.
The arrival of Landa was a sign of intent for the team’s stage racing plans but, although the Spaniard is younger than Froome, he has also failed to deliver in Grand Tours. There have been mitigating circumstances at times but, from an experience and palmares point of view, Froome is head and shoulders ahead of his former domestique.
"We’re building, and part of the team is set with Bilbao, Landa and Poels," Ellingworth told Cyclingnews.
"Chris will feel that he needs to prove himself again. That’s why he’s done all that work. I can imagine that Dave Bralisford is also sitting and waiting to see what happens but, as we know, we can’t all just wait until September."
Tellingly, Ellingworth did hint at the idea of having multiple Grand Tour leaders at Bahrain McLaren in the future, if the opportunity came up. He admitted that Froome winning a fifth Tour at his current team would be a significant achievement, and that his own focus was on Landa for 2020, but the door does appear to be open, even if slightly, for 2021.
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"For Chris, I think it would be a brilliant story if he could stay where he is and win another Tour. But at the end of the day, with someone like Egan around, and Geraint, I’m sure that they’re all thinking the same thing. The rivalry between them is pretty good, and they respect each other.
"At the moment, I want to focus on Mikel. I think that he’s got more to come. I do believe in a structure where you have to have a bit of pressure from within. The structure that Sky and Ineos have had, with leaders and back-ups, has proved pretty good. It’s tough to manage but it’s been successful."
t’s widely regarded that while most teams would jump at the chance to sign Chris Froome, the reality is that few could afford the four-time Tour de France winner.
The leading contenders consist of wealthy teams with room for multiple Grand Tour leaders on their roster, and while Bahrain-McLaren tick those two boxes, manager Rod Ellingworth has told Cyclingnews that his team are in a holding pattern around contract negotiations.
The former Team Sky coach has disclosed that he and Froome are in contact – as he is with a number of his former riders – but contract talks have presently remained outside of their conversations.
Read more
Chris Froome in discussions over a mid-season transfer
Where next for Chris Froome?
Chris Froome's possible mid-season transfer exposes leadership battle at Team Ineos
Chris Froome headlines Challenge of Stars as uncertainty rumbles on
"Someone is going to have to take the punt and I don’t think it’s right to get into a chat about if we’ll take him or not and what the percentage chances are," Ellingworth told Cyclingnews, as he effectively ended any talk of a possible mid-season transfer.
"I still speak to a lot of the guys at Ineos anyway. Some of them have always seen me as someone who will give them honest opinions, even if I work for someone else. Yes, I’ve spoken to some and yes, I’ve spoken to Chris but in our conversations it’s been about how he’s going and the situation that we’re in.
"We speak, if you like, like I do with Luke Rowe or Geraint Thomas. We’ve had such long histories. So I’ve had a call with Chris but it wasn’t just about contracts. Yes, we’ve talked about the situation, the crash he had, and the future."
The transfer market is a complicated landscape at present. Teams are seeing sponsors drop out and wages are either being cut or deferred as teams try and stave off the economic effects of COVID-19.
Ellingworth’s team are no exception and publicly stating any concrete interest in a rider of Froome’s value could have a destabilizing effect on the roster. At the same time, Ellingworth has seen first hand how dominant Froome can be in Grand Tours, and he also believes that the former Tour winner can bounce back from his 2019 crash.
"The one thing is that he has a high price tag. Only so many teams can afford him, and the reason why I won’t say either way is because I don’t know what will happen with our team going forward. Some doors close and others open. Three months ago, we were all singing and dancing as a new team and then we get kicked in the teeth like everyone else has because of the virus," Ellingworth said.
"I wouldn’t say that he was someone that would be absolutely targeted by us. What we’re doing is building a team with the aim of winning Grand Tours. I know that Chris is out of contract and I have spoken to him about it. I wouldn’t say that we’re looking at him as an option right now but you’ve got to look at everyone. But right now we’ve got other things to be thinking about at the minute other than trying to recruit Chris Froome. I know that he’s looking around but right now I’d say there’s maybe a higher chance of him staying where he is, possibly."
Ellingworth, who announced that Bahrain McLaren’s main objective over the coming years was to challenge Team Ineos and the rest of the peloton Tour de France titles, did add that he believes Froome could return to the top of the sport after his 2019 crash, citing Froome’s personality and a similar situation involving another of his former Team Sky athletes.
"The one thing I know about Chris is that when he says he can still win, you wouldn’t put it past him. I remember when Luke Rowe had his accident. It was pretty severe, with multiple fractures, but he came back stronger because of the will to come back and the desire. Knowing Chris, he’s a proper fighter."
Landa
Bahrain McLaren signed several high-profile riders over the winter as they looked to improve their stage racing core. Rohan Dennis was relieved of his duties after walking out at the 2019 Tour de France, while Wout Poels and Mikel Landa – both of whom rode for Ellingworth at Team Sky – were drafted in alongside Pello Bilbao.
The arrival of Landa was a sign of intent for the team’s stage racing plans but, although the Spaniard is younger than Froome, he has also failed to deliver in Grand Tours. There have been mitigating circumstances at times but, from an experience and palmares point of view, Froome is head and shoulders ahead of his former domestique.
"We’re building, and part of the team is set with Bilbao, Landa and Poels," Ellingworth told Cyclingnews.
"Chris will feel that he needs to prove himself again. That’s why he’s done all that work. I can imagine that Dave Bralisford is also sitting and waiting to see what happens but, as we know, we can’t all just wait until September."
Tellingly, Ellingworth did hint at the idea of having multiple Grand Tour leaders at Bahrain McLaren in the future, if the opportunity came up. He admitted that Froome winning a fifth Tour at his current team would be a significant achievement, and that his own focus was on Landa for 2020, but the door does appear to be open, even if slightly, for 2021.
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"For Chris, I think it would be a brilliant story if he could stay where he is and win another Tour. But at the end of the day, with someone like Egan around, and Geraint, I’m sure that they’re all thinking the same thing. The rivalry between them is pretty good, and they respect each other.
"At the moment, I want to focus on Mikel. I think that he’s got more to come. I do believe in a structure where you have to have a bit of pressure from within. The structure that Sky and Ineos have had, with leaders and back-ups, has proved pretty good. It’s tough to manage but it’s been successful."
twitter:UCI_cycling twitterde op dinsdag 19-05-2020 om 17:17:28 🗓2020 UCI International Road Calendar | Update
👉Men’s and Women’s races for the following classes: UCI ProSeries, Class 1, Class 2, UCI Nations’ Cup, Under-23, Junior categories, and criteriums.
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🗓2020 UCI International Road Calendar | Update
Julij valt vies tegen.quote:twitter:UCI_cycling twitterde op dinsdag 19-05-2020 om 17:17:28 🗓2020 UCI International Road Calendar | Update
👉Men’s and Women’s races for the following classes: UCI ProSeries, Class 1, Class 2, UCI Nations’ Cup, Under-23, Junior categories, and criteriums.
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