Je bent van harte welkom, maar onderbouw je stelling/mening dan ook i.p.v. alleen maar te roeptoeteren, dat komt iets sterker over.quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 00:59 schreef Montagui het volgende:
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Dat laatste is waar wij verschillen in mening. Ik lees me ook in, en ga wat dat betreft eerder uit van wetenschappelijke 'meningen' dan meningen van nieuws-verspreiders.
En aangezien je zegt dat ik niet hier hoef te komen zie je liever niet mensen met andere meningen dan de jouwe, terwijl dit een forum is.
Wat vond je dan van dat rapport over dat babytje van zes maanden dat @Smack10 geplaatst heeft?quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 00:59 schreef Montagui het volgende:
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Dat laatste is waar wij verschillen in mening. Ik lees me ook in, en ga wat dat betreft eerder uit van wetenschappelijke 'meningen' dan meningen van nieuws-verspreiders.
En aangezien je zegt dat ik niet hier hoef te komen zie je liever niet mensen met andere meningen dan de jouwe, terwijl dit een forum is.
Ik hoef niets te onderbouwen wat nog niet bewezen is.quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 01:01 schreef Smack10 het volgende:
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Je bent van harte welkom, maar onderbouw je stelling/mening dan ook i.p.v. alleen maar te roeptoeteren, dat komt iets sterker over.
Er is een nieuwe TT en als je daar al angst van krijgt, dan ligt het niet aan ons.quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 01:08 schreef Montagui het volgende:
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Ik hoef niets te onderbouwen wat nog niet bewezen is.
Ik vind alleen de topic (titel) tendentieus angst aanjagend.
Smack post zoveel....link?quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 01:07 schreef tesssssssss het volgende:
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Wat vond je dan van dat rapport over dat babytje van zes maanden dat @:Smack10 geplaatst heeft?
Je bent niet bekent met deze TT'S Ik mis "Brekend.quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 01:08 schreef Montagui het volgende:
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Ik hoef niets te onderbouwen wat nog niet bewezen is.
Ik vind alleen de topic (titel) tendentieus angst aanjagend.
Hier is een peer reviewed pre-publication over Covid-19 + Kawasaki met een case presentation:quote:
quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 01:14 schreef Smack10 het volgende:
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Hier is een peer reviewed pre-publication over Covid-19 + Kawasaki met een case presentation:
https://t.co/5pUoEmf2kb?amp=1
Maar lees je vooral niet in, ben er wel klaar mee om te reageren op trolletjes.
Peer reviewed, maar ga maar lekker weg met je gebrek aan argumenten.quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 01:20 schreef Montagui het volgende:
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This paper may contain information that has errors in facts, figures, and statements, and will be corrected in the final published version.
Doei.
Niks mis met onderzoeken, wel wat mis met angst zaaien als zaken nog niet duidelijk zijn,.
Belittle the opposition,quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 01:22 schreef Smack10 het volgende:
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Peer reviewed, maar ga maar lekker weg met je gebrek aan argumenten.
Prima.quote:Op zaterdag 2 mei 2020 01:42 schreef Montagui het volgende:
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Belittle the opposition,
I rest my case.
https://www.theguardian.c(...)en-reported-globallyquote:More cases of rare syndrome in children reported globally
Doctors around the world have reported more cases of a rare but potentially lethal inflammatory syndrome in children that appears to be linked to coronavirus infections.
Nearly 100 cases of the unusual illness have emerged in at least six countries, with doctors in Britain, the US, France, Italy, Spain and Switzerland now reported to be investigating the condition.
The first cases came to light this week when the NHS issued an alert to paediatricians about a number of children admitted to intensive care units with a mix of toxic shock and a condition known as Kawasaki disease, an inflammatory disorder that affects the blood vessel, heart and other organs. So far 19 children have been affected in the UK and none have died.
The French health minister, Olivier Veran, said on Wednesday that the country had more than a dozen children with inflammation around the heart, and while there was insufficient evidence to prove a link with coronavirus, he said the cases were being taken “very seriously.”
Veran told Franceinfo news radio he had received an alert from Paris concerning “about 15 children of all ages”, adding that other cases had been reported in Spain, Italy and Switzerland. He listed the symptoms as fever, digestive problems and vascular inflammation.
At least three children in the US aged six months to eight years are being treated for a similar condition. Mark Gorelik, a specialist treating the patients at Columbia University Medical Center in New York, said all had fever and inflammation of the heart and gut. “Right now, we’re at the very beginning of trying to understand what that represents,” he told Reuters. Gorelik believes the cases are not Kawasaki disease but a similar condition that shares a common cause, namely an infectious agent that triggers an immune response.
Coronavirus world map: which countries have the most cases and deaths?
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The three New York cases follow a report from Stanford University in California, in which a 6-month-old was admitted to hospital with Kawasaki disease and was later diagnosed with coronavirus.
Many of the children having treatment for the new syndrome have tested positive for coronavirus, but others have not. That could mean that the syndrome is not related to coronavirus, that the children had cleared the virus before they were tested, or that the test missed the infection.
Some doctors suspect the syndrome is a “post-infection inflammatory response” where the immune system overreacts in the wake of an infection. This would suggest that in some children the disease has two phases – the initial infection and a secondary immune response that takes hold later.
Dr Nazima Pathan, a consultant in paediatric intensive care in Cambridge, said the number of children admitted to intensive care units with Covid-19 was relatively low, but that some were presenting with what looked like toxic shock syndrome and Kawasaki disease. “These children have had a severe and prolonged inflammatory response to Covid-19 infection and they have not had severe lung disease, unlike the majority of cases in adults,” she said.
“Whilst this is an evolving situation, it is clear that these symptoms are reported in only handfuls of cases,” Pathan added. “The important message is that if parents are worried about their children’s health, they should seek medical advice.”
The new syndrome, which has yet to be named, dominated discussion between leading doctors on a teleconference about Covid-19 in children hosted on Tuesday by the World Health Organization.
The first known cases in Britain emerged three to four weeks ago, but doctors now plan to look over the medical records of children in intensive care earlier this year to check whether earlier cases were missed.
twitter:RVAwonk twitterde op vrijdag 08-05-2020 om 18:15:06NEW: @NYGovCuomo says the state has 73 reported cases, including one death, involving children with severe illness caused by #COVID19. The symptoms are similar to Kawasaki disease and toxic shock syndrome. https://t.co/VtmjwgdiWI reageer retweet
https://www.theguardian.c(...)virus-death-kawasakiquote:New York warns of children's illness linked to Covid-19 after three deaths
State reports 73 cases of children falling severely ill with toxic shock-like reaction that has symptoms similar to Kawasaki disease
The deaths of three children in New York of inflammatory complications possibly linked to Covid-19 has prompted Andrew Cuomo, the state’s governor, to warn of “an entirely different chapter” of a disease that had been believed to cause only mild symptoms in children.
The governor reported the first death, of a five-year old boy, on Friday. At his morning press conference on Saturday, Cuomo raised the number of fatalities to three, after the death of a seven-year-old and a teenager.
“The illness has taken the lives of three young New Yorkers,” Cuomo said. “This is new. This is developing.”
State health authorities said last week there have been 73 reported cases in New York of children falling severely ill with a toxic shock-like reaction that displays symptoms similar to Kawasaki disease.
Cuomo said many of the children did not display respiratory symptoms commonly associated with Covid-19 when they were brought to area hospitals, but all of them tested positive either for the virus or its antibodies.
New York reports 15 cases of rare illness in children possibly linked to Covid-19
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NBC News found at least 85 such cases in children across the US with a majority in New York state, which has also recorded the highest number of Covid-19 cases in the country.
“We thought children could be vehicles of transmission ... but we didn’t think children would suffer from it,” Cuomo said when he announced the first child fatality. He described the development as “really painful news”.
Kawasaki disease, which mainly affects children under five, can cause the immune system to go into “overdrive”, causing fever, severe diarrhea, rashes and conjunctivitis. In more severe cases it can inflame the walls of the arteries, affecting bloodflow to the heart and is potentially fatal.
New York City reported on Monday that 15 patients aged between two and 15 had been hospitalized over the past three weeks with the Covid-related syndrome. The death of the five-year old boy marks the first fatality from the new illness in the US. Seattle has reported a case along with a team at California’s Stanford children’s hospital.
A 14-year-old boy in the UK also died of the new illness; and several cases in Europe were detailed in a report published in the Lancet. Experts there reported that abdominal pain, gastrointestinal symptoms and cardiac inflammation were common to the cases.
In a press release through the American Heart Association, Dr Jane Newburger, the director of the Kawasaki program at Boston children’s hospital, confirmed that a small number of children developed serious inflammatory syndrome with Covid-19, often leading to hospitalization.
“We want to reassure parents – this appears to be uncommon. While Kawasaki disease can damage the heart or blood vessels, the heart problems usually go away in five or six weeks, and most children fully recover,” Newburger said.
“Rarely, but sometimes, the coronary artery damage persists. Because of this, Kawasaki disease is the most common cause of acquired heart disease in children in developed countries. Prompt treatment is critical to prevent significant heart problems.”
Ja ze kan niet alles weten van een nieuw virus, tot nu toe leek dat zo te zijn.quote:Op zaterdag 9 mei 2020 08:20 schreef quirina het volgende:
Ja maar kinderen hebben er toch minder last van en daardoor dragen ze niet over.
(Koopmans)
https://www.msn.com/nl-nl(...)li=BBoPOOe&ocid=iehpquote:WHO bekijkt mogelijk verband tussen COVID-19 en zeldzame kinderziekte
De Wereldgezondheidsorganisatie (WHO) maakte vrijdag bekend dat het zich gaat buigen over een mogelijk verband tussen COVID-19 en een zeldzame kinderziekte, die is opgedoken in Europa en de Verenigde Staten en waar al meerdere kinderen aan zijn overleden, meldt AFP.
In de afgelopen weken hebben verschillende landen gevallen gemeld van kinderen, die waren getroffen door de ontstekingsziekte, waarvan de symptomen vergelijkbaar zijn met de zeldzame ziekte van Kawasaki.
"De eerste berichten veronderstellen dat dit syndroom mogelijk verband houdt met COVID-19", zei WHO-directeur Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus in een briefing. Volgens hem is het van cruciaal belang om meer over dit syndroom te weten te komen en dat artsen wereldwijd alert moeten zijn op dit syndroom en te leren begrijpen wat het precies is.
Vrijdag maakte een Franse arts bekend dat een negenjarige jongen, die besmet was met het coronavirus, was overleden aan de kinderziekte. Het was de eerste keer in Frankrijk dat iemand hieraan overleed. Soortgelijke sterfgevallen kwamen eerder voor in New York en Londen.
Ook in Nederland zijn enkele kinderen op de intensive care komen te liggen met de ziekte, zei kinderimmunoloog Taco Kuijpers van het Amsterdam UMC begin deze maand in gesprek met NU.nl.
De ziekte kwam in beeld doordat artsen in de getroffen landen het aantal kinderen in ziekenhuizen en op intensivecareafdelingen zagen toenemen. De jonge patiënten hadden veelal last van hevige buik-, maag- en darmklachten, die gepaard gingen met hevige koorts. Enkelen hadden long- en hartproblemen.
Dat het coronavirus verantwoordelijk is voor de kinderziekte is nog niet bewezen.
Dat is niet nieuwswaardig, pure bangmakerij. Vele malen grotere kans dat je kind onder een auto loopt.quote:Op zondag 10 mei 2020 15:13 schreef Smack10 het volgende:
https://www.theguardian.c(...)virus-death-kawasaki
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