ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformationquote:Op zaterdag 25 april 2020 16:42 schreef Tingo het volgende:
Zo...deze soort gasten ook op 't evening news zouden komen....
Maar ja, dat gaat toch niet gebeuren omdat het zal de fear factor verminderen....
Hele vids de moeite waard zijn om te kijken!
Dr. Erickson COVID-19 Briefing
'a 0.03% chance of dying from COVID19 in the state of California'
9:30: We're going to compare this to flu...is this significantly different from influenza A and B?
15:25: The secondary effects of COVID19...
18:00: Now I want to talk about the immune system...
22:00: Aggressieve toon van de journalists noteren.
30:50 : ER doctors now are being pressured to add COVID to death certificates.
34:00 : The building blocks of your immune system are virusses and bacteria, end of story.
Pt.2:
'There's something else going on here, it's not about COVID and it's not about science'
5:00 : 'They are screaming for ventilators. 80-90% of people on ventilators die. If you are a ventilator you're in really bad shape.They bought 30,000 ventilators and only 5 of them were even used.'
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			Tering zeg. Tsja...hebben we vaker gezien.quote:Op dinsdag 28 april 2020 22:20 schreef aioli het volgende:
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ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation
The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.
COVID-19 misinformation is widespread and dangerous. Members of ACEP and AAEM are first-hand witnesses to the human toll that COVID-19 is taking on our communities. ACEP and AAEM strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Massihi as a basis for policy and decision making.
https://www.acep.org/coro(...)xpS4-WwCizb4ZUVWUhr0
Mooi om te zien hoe ze de blijkbaar de tijd hebben genomen om een statement te positioneren waarin beide heren worden afgerekend op basis van niet-bewezen financiële motieven zonder hierbij rekening te houden met de volksgezondheid, maar niet de moeite genomen hebben om te ontkrachten wat ze beiden gezegd hebben.
Gecombineerd met de censuur die beide artsen ontvangen, ben ik toch geneigd deze mannen te geloven.
			
			
			
			Een prachtig voorbeeld waarom veel mensen in bepaalde beroepsgroepen hun mond liever houden of met de "hype" meelullen. Gebeurt in de journalistiek natuurlijk ook.quote:Op dinsdag 28 april 2020 22:29 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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Tering zeg. Tsja...hebben we vaker gezien.
			
			
			
			Geenstijl had er ook aandacht voor. Was denk niet de bedoeling.quote:Op dinsdag 28 april 2020 22:20 schreef aioli het volgende:
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ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation
The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.
COVID-19 misinformation is widespread and dangerous. Members of ACEP and AAEM are first-hand witnesses to the human toll that COVID-19 is taking on our communities. ACEP and AAEM strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Massihi as a basis for policy and decision making.
https://www.acep.org/coro(...)xpS4-WwCizb4ZUVWUhr0
Mooi om te zien hoe ze de blijkbaar de tijd hebben genomen om een statement te positioneren waarin beide heren worden afgerekend op basis van niet-bewezen financiële motieven zonder hierbij rekening te houden met de volksgezondheid, maar niet de moeite genomen hebben om te ontkrachten wat ze beiden gezegd hebben.
Gecombineerd met de censuur die beide artsen ontvangen, ben ik toch geneigd deze mannen te geloven.
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			https://www.washingtontim(...)cal-hoax-in-history/quote:Coronavirus hype biggest political hoax in history
The new coronavirus is real.
The response to the coronavirus is hyped. And in time, this hype will be revealed as politically hoaxed.
In fact, COVID-19 will go down as one of the political world’s biggest, most shamefully overblown, overhyped, overly and irrationally inflated and outright deceptively flawed responses to a health matter in American history, one that was carried largely on the lips of medical professionals who have no business running a national economy or government.
The facts are this: COVID-19 is a real disease that sickens some, proves fatal to others, mostly the elderly — and does nothing to the vast majority.
That’s it.
That, in a nutshell, is it.
Or, in the words of Dan Erickson and Artin Massih, doctors and co-owners of Accelerated Urgent Care in Bakersfield, California: Let’s get the country reopened — and now.
“Do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically no. Do we need businesses to be shut down? Emphatically no. … [T]he data is showing it’s time to lift,” Ericksonsaid, in a recent interview.
He’s right. They’re right.
The data to keep America closed and Americans closed in simply doesn’t exist.
If truth be told, it’s questionable it ever did.
The scientists leading the coronavirus shutdown charge predicted in March that in America, between 100,000 and 250,000 would die. They based those estimates on computer modeling.
But at the same time they were basing those estimates on computer modeling, they were acknowledging that computer modeling is inaccurate and errs on the side of hype.
“I’ve never seen a model of the diseases I’ve dealt with where the worst-case actually came out,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a member of President Donald Trump’s White House coronavirus task force, during a CNN interview in March. “They always overshoot.”
Catch that? Fauci’s message: Computer models are flawed and inaccurate and always overestimate the problem.
But from these faulty overinflated computer figures came all the constitutionally questionable actions by government anyway — from ordering businesses closed to quarantining-slash-house arresting American citizens to doing some quick and pitiful and economically painful income redistribution schemes via stimulus funds’ legislation.
Since, about 56,000 have died in America due to coronavirus — or have they? Again, the facts are flimsy.
Government ordered hospitals weeks ago to stop performing elective surgeries to make way for the projected numbers of coronavirus patients. So they did. And in so doing, they cut off their revenue streams. So Congress passed legislation giving hospitals billions of dollars to treat coronavirus patients. Conflict of interest? Yikes. Yes.
The coronavirus counts, already flawed from computer modeling, were then given another flaw treatment.
“[Pennsylvania] removes more than 200 deaths from official coronavirus count as questions mount about reporting process, data accuracy,” The Inquirer reported.
Add to that the ever-changing nature of a virus that spreads by air and contact, and honestly, suddenly, even expert Fauci’s best guess is about as good as Joe Neighbor’s best guess. So that leaves common sense, combined with knowledge of past viruses, to guide.
But the quote-unquote medical experts refused to go there, refused to acknowledge common sense, refused to compare with past viruses in any way that didn’t hype the coronavirus counts.
This virus was different, Americans were told. This virus was far more contagious than anything ever before seen or studied, Americans were told. And any time the case counts dropped off and the numbers proved wrong, well, this was due to the social distancing and quarantining and face-mask wearing that Americans had been doing, by government’s order — Americans were told.
It just didn’t make sense.
It just doesn’t add up.
It just didn’t, and doesn’t, justify the utter shredding of civil rights.
And now some in the medical community, thank goodness, are starting to point out the glaring omissions of logic and fact that have plagued this overhyped, overreaching coronavirus crackdown that has stretched on far, far too long.
Among some of Erickson’s remarks: “This is immunology — microbiology 101. This is the basis of what we’ve known for years: When you take human beings and you say, ‘Go into your house, clean all your counters, Lysol them down’ … what does it do to our immune system? … Sheltering in place decreases your immune system.”
And this: “Any time you have something new in the [medical] community, it sparks fear — and I would have done what Dr. Fauci did … initially. … But you know, looking at theories and models — which is what these folks use — is very different than the way the actual virus presents itself throughout communities.”
And this: “Do you think you’re protected from COVID when you wear gloves that transfer disease everywhere? … We wear masks in an acute setting to protect us. [But] we’re not wearing masks. Why is that? Because we understand microbiology. We understand immunology. And we want strong immune systems. I don’t want to hide in my home, develop a weak immune system and then come out and get disease.”
And this: “When I’m writing up my death report I’m being pressured to add COVID. Why is that? Why are we being pressured to add COVID? To maybe increase the numbers, and make it look a little bit worse than it is. We’re being pressured in-house to add COVID to the diagnostic list when we think it has nothing to do with the actual cause of death. The actual cause of death was not COVID, but it’s being reported as one of the diseases processes. … COVID didn’t kill them, 25 years of tobacco use killed.”
Does it get any clearer than that?
Seriously, America. The only reason America is still in shutdown mode is political.
Either politicians are too afraid to make any move that might come back to bite them politically or politicians are using this coronavirus to political advantage — to, say, pass gun control laws, like Virginia’s governor, Ralph Northam. Or to, say, float campaign hopes on the current ravaged economy, like former Vice President Joe Biden and oh, all the Democrats facing races.
But for the rest of America — the rest of hardworking, freedom-loving America — it’s time to reel in the radically unconstitutional.
“If you’re going to dance on someone’s constitutional rights, you better have a good reason — you better have a really good reason, not just a theory,” Erickson said. “The data is showing us it’s time to lift … so if we don’t lift, what is the reason?”
That is the key question.
As time goes by, the answer will only become more and more evident. The coronavirus may be real — but the hype is hoaxed. Now let’s just hope this is a one-time hoax that doesn’t roll around every time flu season approaches.
			
			
			
			Heb je nu over, Ebola of ander super dodelijk virus?quote:Op maandag 4 mei 2020 16:21 schreef Tingo het volgende:
Aardige stuk over hoe fearmongery werkt:
Death: A Simple Idea with a Powerful Punch
Edward Curtin
https://off-guardian.org/(...)th-a-powerful-punch/
Paar quotes:
'In today’s electronic mass media world, those who control the mass media that control the narrative flow – the storytelling – control the majority’s beliefs and actions.'
'This is our world today, and it is where the Covid-19 story takes place. A world not just of nuclear fear, but a host of other fears constantly inflamed by the mass media that hypnotize people through the conjuring of death-fear.'
'When leaders speak, the children hear the inner voices of their parents telling them to be careful, be very careful, the bogeyman is everywhere, so listen and obey. Freud, the Jewish atheist, and Dostoevsky, the Russian Orthodox Christian, were in agreement about people’s desire to give up their freedom to authority figures who would allegedly shelter them within their warm embrace.
The easiest way to do this is to convince people that death is stalking them, for the bogeyman is always death in one form or another.
It works to get people to support the terrifying sadism of wars against fabricated “others,” who are always portrayed as aliens who are out to kill the good people.
It works to get people to give up their freedoms out of fear of “terrorists,” who are said to slide and hide in the interstices of everyday life, ready to pounce and kill at any moment.
And it works to get people to obey orders to protect themselves from terrifying viruses that are lying in wait everywhere to strike them dead.'
			
			
			
			Yes well, most people can read several different languages but that doesn't mean to say they understand what they may have read.quote:Op maandag 4 mei 2020 17:10 schreef theguyver het volgende:
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Heb je nu over, Ebola of ander super dodelijk virus?
Want wat ik hierboven lees gaat niet over covid-19!
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			“Scientists are doing an awful lot of damage to the world in the name of helping it. I don’t mind attacking my own fraternity because I am ashamed of it.” –Kary Mullis, Inventor of Polymerase Chain Reactionquote:Op donderdag 7 mei 2020 00:51 schreef Tingo het volgende:
Wat meer over de betrouwbaarheid van tests:
https://uncoverdc.com/202(...)t-to-detect-a-virus/
'We’ve been hijacked by our technologies, but left illiterate about what they actually mean. In this case, I am in the rare position of having known, spent time with, and interviewed the inventor of the method used in the presently available Covid-19 tests, which is called PCR, (Polymerase Chain Reaction.)
			
			
			
			Dat stuk gaat voor een groot deel over de relatie tussen HIV en AIDS. Heeft helemaal niks met COVID-19. Het is een heel ander virus met andere eigenschappen. Het grootste verschil is nog wel dat HIV nooit meer uit je lichaam gaat. En als je er niet voor behandeld wordt, je er AIDS van kunt krijgen.quote:Op donderdag 7 mei 2020 00:51 schreef Tingo het volgende:
Wat meer over de betrouwbaarheid van tests:
https://uncoverdc.com/202(...)t-to-detect-a-virus/
'We’ve been hijacked by our technologies, but left illiterate about what they actually mean. In this case, I am in the rare position of having known, spent time with, and interviewed the inventor of the method used in the presently available Covid-19 tests, which is called PCR, (Polymerase Chain Reaction.)
			
			
			
			Yes it does.quote:Op donderdag 7 mei 2020 12:45 schreef Morrigan het volgende:
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Dat stuk gaat voor een groot deel over de relatie tussen HIV en AIDS. Heeft helemaal niks met COVID-19. Het is een heel ander virus met andere eigenschappen. Het grootste verschil is nog wel dat HIV nooit meer uit je lichaam gaat. En als je er niet voor behandeld wordt, je er AIDS van kunt krijgen.
			
			
			
			Meh...Bill Gates 'n gefabriceerde haat figuur is, imo.quote:Op donderdag 7 mei 2020 11:23 schreef controlaltdelete het volgende:
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“Scientists are doing an awful lot of damage to the world in the name of helping it. I don’t mind attacking my own fraternity because I am ashamed of it.” –Kary Mullis, Inventor of Polymerase Chain Reaction
People die—yes. But people don’t die the way Bill Gates would have you believe, at the mercy of malicious, predatory pathogens, “lurking” on every surface, and especially other humans. That’s not “science.” That’s social engineering. Terrorism.
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			Wat loop je nou te janken. Ik heb heel dat artikel gelezen.quote:Op donderdag 7 mei 2020 13:38 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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Yes it does.
Het gaat over de (on)betrouwbaarheid van de PCR test methode, die ook voor COVID19 gebruikt is. Misschien voor sommige lezers is dat interessante informatie. De talking heads op TV blijft het maar allemaal negeren. Dat jij e.a. hier willen niks over lezen/horen boeit me niet.
			
			
			
			Janken doe ik niet, meid.quote:Op donderdag 7 mei 2020 13:53 schreef Morrigan het volgende:
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Wat loop je nou te janken. Ik heb heel dat artikel gelezen.
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			PCR is een tool die gebruikt wordt bij een type test. Het is niet de test.quote:Op donderdag 7 mei 2020 00:51 schreef Tingo het volgende:
Wat meer over de betrouwbaarheid van tests:
https://uncoverdc.com/202(...)t-to-detect-a-virus/
'We’ve been hijacked by our technologies, but left illiterate about what they actually mean. In this case, I am in the rare position of having known, spent time with, and interviewed the inventor of the method used in the presently available Covid-19 tests, which is called PCR, (Polymerase Chain Reaction.)
			
			
			
			Fixed it for you.quote:Op dinsdag 19 mei 2020 12:51 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
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PCR is een tool die gebruikt wordt bij een onbetrouwbare type test. Het is niet de onbetrouwbare test.
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