Geile foto.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 13:51 schreef Terrorizer het volgende:
Hoe gaat het met haar eigenlijk?
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Anna Chapman, AKA agent 90-60-90.
Ze is boos... ze noemt Skripal een vuile verrader. Verder is ze vast nog steeds lekker en een spreekpop voor de Russische propagandaquote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 13:51 schreef Terrorizer het volgende:
Hoe gaat het met haar eigenlijk?
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Anna Chapman, AKA agent 90-60-90.
Wel opvallend dat Rusland hem eerst uitlevert als onderdeel van een spionnenruil, en hem daarna vergiftigt.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 14:32 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
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Ze is boos... ze noemt Skripal een vuile verrader. Verder is ze vast nog steeds lekker en een spreekpop voor de Russische propaganda
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http://www.news.com.au/wo(...)e266d25011d15c46d6d6
Chapman was meer waard misschien... En gewoon wraak voor het 'verraden van je eigen land'quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 14:37 schreef polderturk het volgende:
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Wel opvallend dat Rusland hem eerst uitlevert als onderdeel van een spionnenruil, en hem daarna vergiftigt.
Misschien kon Putin dan vlak voor de verkiezingen vingerwijzen: "zie je wel? Ze moeten ons niet". Vraag me af of dit hem stemmen opgeleverd heeft.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 14:38 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
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Chapman was meer waard misschien... En gewoon wraak voor het 'verraden van je eigen land'
Verder wel opvallen dat het opvallend genoeg net voor de verkiezingen was enzo.. meer als signaal naar de mensen : don't mess with Putin
In eigen land zal dit sowieso positief voor hem geweest zijn. Of Rusland nou wel of niet de dader is.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 14:46 schreef polderturk het volgende:
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Misschien kon Putin dan vlak voor de verkiezingen vingerwijzen: "zie je wel? Ze moeten ons niet". Vraag me af of dit hem stemmen opgeleverd heeft.
Eigen mensen (Chapman en nog een aantal anderen) zijn terug in eigen land, landverraders zijn tijdelijk op vrije voeten maar worden jaren later alsnog gestraft?quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 14:37 schreef polderturk het volgende:
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Wel opvallend dat Rusland hem eerst uitlevert als onderdeel van een spionnenruil, en hem daarna vergiftigt.
Een gemeenschappelijke vijand net nu er een lastige en pijnlijke brexit aan zit te komen. Evenals een reden om die harde brexit te verzachten... We hebben elkaar immers nodig met een vijand als rusland....quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:26 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:
Denk even out of the box. Is er een ander scenario buiten Rusland mogelijk?
Heeft Theresa May zelf geen belang? Is dit het werk van MI16? James Bond 7.0?
Precies mijn gedachte ookquote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:41 schreef Spanky78 het volgende:
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Een gemeenschappelijke vijand net nu er een lastige en pijnlijke brexit aan zit te komen. Evenals een reden om die harde brexit te verzachten... We hebben elkaar immers nodig met een vijand als rusland....
Welke Rus is zo dom om een moord te plegen met een zenuwgas dat alleen in Rusland gemaakt zou worden. Iets in me zegt dat het allemaal erg apart is.
Poetin is echt geen lieverdje. Maar we hoeven niet naïef te zijn over onze eigen diensten.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:45 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:
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Precies mijn gedachte ook
En 100% dat we totaal misleid worden door westerse media over Rusland.
Putin is een sterke stabiele leider van een groot en hard land. Wat er vaak wordt beweert is pure bangmakerij.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:49 schreef Spanky78 het volgende:
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Poetin is echt geen lieverdje. Maar we hoeven niet naïef te zijn over onze eigen diensten.
Misschien een derde partij die GB en Rusland tegen elkaar wil opzetten? Is dat mogelijk?quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:26 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:
Denk even out of the box. Is er een ander scenario buiten Rusland mogelijk?
Heeft Theresa May zelf geen belang? Is dit het werk van MI16? James Bond 7.0?
In Rusland kun je maar beter niet te veel kritiek hebben op Putin. Erg vrij is het land uiteindelijk niet...quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:53 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:
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Putin is een sterke stabiele leider van een groot en hard land. Wat er vaak wordt beweert is pure bangmakerij.
Ik zie veel meer gevaar in bv een schultz in Duitsland.
Dan zou je eerder denken aan solidariteit "afdwingen" van de rest van de EU, opdat ze zich minder hard zouden opstellen bij de Brexit onderhandelingen. Omdat het Westen nu geen verdeeldheid mag tonen, zoiets...quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 13:39 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
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Hetze tegen Rusland, waar het Westen al langer mee bezig is, vergroten (volgens Rusland dan)
Rusland heeft een officieel onderzoek opgestart naar de aanslag op de dochter, niet naar de vader (zij heeft de Russische nationaliteit, hij niet). Misschien dat hij daarom zo formuleerde.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 13:48 schreef TargaFlorio het volgende:
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Beetje vergezocht om een aanslag te plegen op de dochter, alleen op Sergei Skripal zou het zelfde resultaat hebben. Maar goed dit is typisch Rusland natuurlijk, veel verschillende theorieën de ether in slingeren om verdeeldheid te zaaien zodat er altijd onduidelijkheid blijft. Zie ook MH17.
https://www.huffingtonpos(...)05cee4b0e872b4bf6380quote:A Corruption Case Shocks Russia’s Elites
Putin has long tried to prevent any one interest group or individual from gaining too much power, seeing political upstarts as threats to his authority. But it appears his control over his associates has begun to slip, and he hasn’t been able to keep disputes between major figures behind closed doors.
In an episode last year that showed the high stakes of these battles, a court sentenced former Economy Minister Alexei Ulyukayev to serve eight years in a penal colony and pay $2.2 million for corruption and accepting bribes.
Ulyukayev denied the charges and blamed a political opponent for setting him up ― Igor Sechin, a former deputy prime minister who is now head of Russian oil giant Rosneft. Sechin, in turn, denies Ulyukayev’s accusations.
The case centered on a meeting between the two men in late 2016 at Rosneft headquarters, where hidden cameras captured Sechin giving Ulyukayev a gift basket full of sausages and a large brown bag. The bag contained $2 million, which Sechin accused Ulyukayev of seeking as a bribe. Ulyukayev claims he thought the bag contained bottles of wine.
Based on the sting operation and Sechin’s testimony, Ulyukayev was convicted.
Sechin served as Putin’s secretary in the 1990s and is now one of the country’s most powerful men, even though he no longer holds a position inside the Kremlin. Experts describe him as a staunch conservative and anti-Western figure in Russian politics, and he is currently under U.S. sanctions related to Russia’s annexation of Crimea.
Sechin is a linchpin in a group of hawkish former security officials known as the “siloviki,” who are looking to gain more influence during Putin’s next term. Sechin’s power has grown to the point where analysts say that in addition to his role in Rosneft, he also holds significant pull over both the court system and Russia’s security services.
“Sechin, on the one hand, is the CEO of the biggest Russian oil company, and on the other hand, is a member of Putin’s inner circle, so he basically can do everything he wants without the limitations that a public official has,” said Konstantin Gaaze, a political analyst who writes for the Carnegie Moscow Center think tank.
“He has more influence than the prime minister.”
Staking A Claim In Putin’s Final Term
Ulyukayev’s harsh sentence and his allegations against Sechin set a disquieting tone for Russia’s elites. The former economy minister’s downfall provides both a glimpse of potential disputes to come in the next six years and a sign that even powerful figures are now vulnerable and that a wrong political move could result in jail.
In a closing statement at the trial, Ulyukayev paraphrased John Donne’s poem “For Whom The Bell Tolls” and warned those watching that “the bell could start tolling for any of you.”
“That case is a major reason why the level of trust in Russian elites is dramatically low. They just don’t trust each other,” said Gaaze.
“They are afraid not because of some abstract feeling, not because of the Western sanctions, but they are afraid because they feel the rules of the game in the Russian elite changed dramatically.”
Already, other tensions have begun to escalate within the Kremlin, including between the speaker of Russia’s parliament, Vyacheslav Volodin, and Putin’s first deputy chief of staff, Sergei Kiriyenko. Both wield sizable power within the government, control duties that go beyond their titles and are seeking to expand their roles.
But as Kiriyenko and Volodin gain more influence, their conflict has become increasingly heated. The two fought over the best way to manage Putin’s election campaign and address his opponents, experts say, with Volodin criticizing Kiriyenko for drawing too much attention to the race and turning it into a circus.
The next presidential term will likely also see other top members of the Kremlin, such as Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, seek to secure their places. More liberal-minded economists, military figures and other interest groups are all expected to vie for prominence.
Dat is maar goed ook.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 23:08 schreef Spanky78 het volgende:
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In Rusland kun je maar beter niet te veel kritiek hebben op Putin. Erg vrij is het land uiteindelijk niet...
quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:53 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:
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Putin is een sterke stabiele leider van een groot en hard land. Wat er vaak wordt beweert is pure bangmakerij.
Ik zie veel meer gevaar in bv een schultz in Duitsland.
http://metro.co.uk/2018/0(...)rain-damage-7410074/quote:The poisoned daughter of a former Russian spy reportedly ‘briefly’ woke up after arriving in hospital, however was ‘unable to communicate in any meaningful way’.
Doctors spoke out in court yesterday stating the fear both Yulia and her father, Sergei Skripal, may have suffered brain damage as a result of a nerve agent attack.
quote:Police swab items at Skripal home for clues to nerve agent attack
https://www.theguardian.c(...)y-nerve-agent-attack
Officers continue to examine Salisbury property almost three weeks after poisoning
Door handles and computer keyboards are among the items at the home of Sergei Skripal that are being examined by investigators as they work to establish where and how the nerve agent attack on the Russian former spy took place.
Skripal’s red-brick house in Salisbury remains cordoned off almost three weeks after he and his daughter, Yulia, collapsed in the city centre.
An investigator was seen at the house with a list headed “swabs”. It appeared to indicate that spots the Skripals were likely to have touched were being looked at in particular. The front door, patio door and keyboards were all listed.
On Friday afternoon, investigators in protective clothing were wrapping up the bench where the Skripals collapsed.
Counter-terrorism officials have given no details of how the Skripals may have come into contact with the nerve agent, which has been identified as a novichok.
There was speculation it could have been placed on the door handles of Skripal’s BMW or in the car’s ventilation system. Another suggestion is that Yulia Skripal, who arrived in the UK on a flight from Russia the day before she and her father collapsed, may have brought it into the country.
The chief constable of Wiltshire, Kier Pritchard, said on Thursday that the investigation was complex and no end was in sight.
He said: “The investigation is highly likely to take many months and where it is operationally possible, updates will be issued to the media. We thank the public for their continued support.”
Earlier he told a Wiltshire police and crime panel that the operation was still focused on gathering evidence and had not yet entered the recovery stage.
On Friday, DS Nick Bailey, the police officer who has been released from hospital after being taken ill in the attack, said: “We are just taking each day as it comes at the moment. I recognise that normal life for me will probably never be the same, and Sarah [his wife] and I now need to focus on finding a new normal for us and for our children.”
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Also on Friday, police said a man had been charged in connection with an incident at the police cordon at Salisbury cemetery, where the remains of Skripal’s wife and son rest.
Daniel Daley, 53, of Salisbury, was charged with assaulting a police officer, a racially aggravated public order offence and being drunk and disorderly.
On Tuesday another man, Kim Rogerson, 56, from Salisbury, was charged in connection with an incident in which police officers manning a cordon in the city centre were allegedly assaulted. Both will appear before magistrates next month.
Jamie Knight, 30, from Wilton, near Salisbury, was jailed after breaching a cordon around the bench where the Skripals collapsed, putting officers at risk of contamination as they tried to restrain him.
https://www.theguardian.c(...)mer-soviet-scientistquote:Nerve agent was used in 1995 murder, claims former Soviet scientist
Vladimir Uglev, developer of Soviet-era chemical weapons, contradicts Russian denials at existence of novichok nerve agents
A developer of Soviet-era nerve agents related to the one used against former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia has told the Guardian that a similar poison was used in the murder of a Russian businessman in the 1990s.
The remarks by Vladimir Uglev, a Soviet chemical weapons scientist, contradict official Russian denials that the country had any chemical weapons programme tied to the name novichok, with the formal codename foliant.
“If you’re asking who made the substances that poisoned the Skripals, his name and his country, it’s possible it was made by my hands,” Uglev wrote to the Guardian. “But we’re unlikely to find out about that, at least according to the information I have at the moment.”
Uglev is one of three Russian scientists to confirm the existence of the top secret chemical weapons programme since the Salisbury attack. His remarks were sent to a handful of journalists on Friday, and he answered follow up questions for the Guardian.
Uglev on Friday said he had been questioned by police immediately after the grisly 1995 murders of banker Ivan Kivelidi and his secretary in an apparent poisoning, and recognised a nerve agent synthesised by his own working group at a closed state laboratory near the Volga river.
“Immediately after Kivelidi’s telephone was analysed, the investigator in my case asked me a number of questions as the substance was synthesised in our group,” Uglev wrote to journalists. He first went public on Wednesday.
Court documents first reported by Reuters and later published by the Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta said that a member of Uglev’s lab, Leonid Rink, had been jailed briefly after admitting to selling a small amount of a deadly nerve agent developed under Russia’s so-called foliant programme.
That programme has become famous in the west in recent days as novichok, identified by British authorities as the Soviet-era nerve agent used in Salisbury earlier this month.
The likely sale of the nerve agent to a criminal group in the 1990s will raise questions about Theresa May’s assurances that only a state could have ordered the attack on Skripal.
But nerve agents typically deteriorate quickly. And a binary, which increases shelf life by storing the future nerve agent in two stable precursors, was never achieved at his laboratory, Uglev said.
Nevertheless, he speculated it could remain potent for some time. “If properly stored, I imagine it could poison someone even 50 years later,” he wrote.
Uglev worked in the State Scientific Research Institute of Organic Chemistry and Technology in the city of Shikhany, Saratov region, from 1972 until 1993. He said he handled foliant nerve agents for the last time in 1990. They were not on the list of chemical weapons submitted by Russia as part of the Chemical Weapons Convention signed in 1993.
In follow-up remarks to the Guardian, Uglev said he knew of three people who had died as a result of accidents while developing novichok: a scientist named Andrei Zheleznyakov and “two officers who held tests on our testing range”.
Asked by the Guardian about what the chances are that British investigators might be able to tie the novichok to a specific country or lab, he said “probably close to zero”.
“They have the footprint of the substance in Salisbury … but no data about the substance (its fingerprint) in the database, so how can they say where it is from,” he wrote.
That could change, he added, if they are able to gather earlier samples from Soviet and Russian labs. Russian police, he noted, were able to identify him quickly after the death of Kivelidi, the businessman, in 1995.
The poisons he helped develop in the 1970s and 1980s were especially lethal, he added.
“If any of these four substances” were used to poison the Skripals, he wrote, referring to several chemicals he helped developed, then “their chances are nil”.
“But medicine doesn’t stay in one place, and perhaps in the last 30 years, during which I’ve been out of the system, something has changed for the better.”
Precies, de beschuldigingen van de Briitten zijn lachwekkend en nergens op gebaseerd. De Russenhebben geen enkel motief, integendeel zelfs. Dat de Britse geheime dienst erachter zit om de aandacht van de Brexit af te leiden is dan nog logischer. Absurd en zorgelijk dat de EU , omwille van de "eenheid" zonder enig bewijs de Britten napraten,quote:Op zondag 18 maart 2018 19:17 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:
Als de Russische geheime dienst iemand dood wil gebruiken ze toch wel iets anders dan een duidelijk van Russchische makelaardij zenuwgas?
Dan eerder de hartaanval methode.
Dir lijkt op dubbelspionnen werk, ik neig naar Mossad.
Inderdaad, dit stinkt aan alle kanten.quote:Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:41 schreef Spanky78 het volgende:
Een gemeenschappelijke vijand net nu er een lastige en pijnlijke brexit aan zit te komen. Evenals een reden om die harde brexit te verzachten... We hebben elkaar immers nodig met een vijand als rusland....
Welke Rus is zo dom om een moord te plegen met een zenuwgas dat alleen in Rusland gemaakt zou worden. Iets in me zegt dat het allemaal erg apart is.
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