Las Vegas shooting-over details

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Op woensdag 15 november 2017 20:53 schreef controlaltdelete het volgende:

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Opa was goed voorzien

Revealed: full shocking 42-weapon arsenal of Stephen Paddock, including AR-15s, an AK-47, and four Daniel Defense DDM4 rifles

Daniel Defense DDM4

Daar hou je heel wat aan over als je door dit soort zwaar geschut geraakt wordt. Op een filmpje werd een halve varkenskop ermee afgeschoten. Meende ook ergens te lezen dat hij iets van een versneller voor kogels erop had zitten?

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A month after Las Vegas shooting, there's still no bump stock regulation

Washington (CNN)Many lawmakers, both Democratic and Republican, agreed one response to the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history should be to ban the sale of bump stocks -- but a month later, they are still legal and neither Congress nor the agency in charge of controlling such devices appear to be taking steps to outlaw them.
A bump fire stock, also known as a bump stock, is a device that enables semi-automatic rifles to fire more rapidly, similar to automatic weapons. Twelve of them were found on firearms recovered from the gunman's Las Vegas hotel room.

Gun control legislation has failed to make any progress in Congress after each mass shooting, and the Las Vegas massacre appears to be no different.
After the massacre, lawmakers first responded by saying they, including House Speaker Paul Ryan, didn't even know what a bump stock was.
Ryan then called for a regulatory fix for bump fire stocks earlier, rather than passing legislation that was proposed in the House and Senate.
"We think the regulatory fix is the smartest, quickest fix," he said when asked about how to address the devices.
Also in response at the time, nine Republican senators sent a letter to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives asking the agency to review its policy on bump fire stock.
"We recognize that it is impossible to prevent tragedy and acts of 'pure evil,' in the words of our President," the senators wrote. "We believe, however, the tragic events in Las Vegas brought to light an issue from this past administration that we respectfully request that your Bureau swiftly review,"
After the shooting, the National Rifle Association pointed to the ATF to regulate the device.
"The ATF should review bump-fire stocks to ensure they comply with federal law," Jennifer Baker, spokeswoman for the Institute for Legislative Action at the NRA, told CNN, calling bills to ban them "intentionally overreaching."
But so far, there's been no change in the regulation of the device.
A spokeswoman for the ATF told CNN on Tuesday that Senate judiciary committee staffers were briefed by the ATF regarding bump stock related matters, but had nothing further to add.
When asked about the status of bump stock regulation on Tuesday, GOP Sen. John Thune's office referred to the letter, which he was part of sending -- but there appeared to be no new developments.
Stalled legislation
In the House, Republican Rep. Carlos Curbelo and Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton, introduced legislation to ban the sale of bump stocks, but there's been no action since.
And in the Senate, Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein introduced a bill that would ban the sale, transfer, importation, manufacture or possession of bump stocks, as well as trigger cranks and other accessories that accelerate a semi-automatic rifle's rate of fire.
GOP Sen. Ron Johnson was outspoken after the shooting about his support for banning bump stocks following the shooting. Asked for comment about the lack of action, his office only referred back to a statement he gave Politico for story published on October 4.
"Automatic weapons are illegal," he said at the time. "If that (bump stocks) facilitates that, to me it would be subject to the same ban. If that (bill banning bump stocks) actually gets on the Senate floor, I'd vote for it."
On Tuesday, Sen. Chris Murphy, a Democrat from Connecticut who has been engaged in the gun debate on Capitol Hill for years, told CNN that he's heard nothing on whether ATF is seriously looking at changing regulations surrounding bump stocks.
"I don't think the ATF is going to move unless the White House tells them to move and my impression is that they have been given no direction from the White House," Murphy said.
"It is unclear what the ATF can do," Murphy added.
GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham also told CNN he hadn't heard anything about where ATF is in reviewing bump stocks.
"I think once they make a decision then it would be our job to evaluate if it makes sense or not," Graham said.
Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut, told CNN that he thinks that the idea of a regulatory change is not enough, adding also he has not heard anything from the ATF on what they are doing now.
"We need legislation because the alternative is 'regulation,' which means two or three years of waiting for a rule that the NRA itself probably will challenge and tie it up for years more," he told CNN. "So I think the proposal for a rule or regulation is a deceptive dodge, purposefully suggested by the NRA as a way to avoid any real prohibition."
GOP Sen. John Barrasso told CNN that he hasn't heard what the ATF is doing about bump stocks now.
"I'm expecting to hear from them. I don't know that they're timeline is going to be, but It was something most of us hadn't heard of beforehand and then we found out how it came to be, we found out it was the ATF and we expect them to deal with it and let us know," Barrasso said.
Separately from the previous legislation, a bipartisan group of four House members, two from each major party, unveiled legislation Tuesday to regulate but not ban the sale of bump stocks. The "Closing the Bump Stock Loophole" act would require that those in "possession of or purchasing bump stock devices ... (undergo) a rigorous background check, fingerprinting and (pay) a $200 registration fee," according to a summary of the bill posted on the website of Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick.

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Op donderdag 16 november 2017 08:41 schreef MaJo het volgende:

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Ok, die eerste 2 punten kan ik nog in meegaan (het tweede punt met moeite, dat wel). Maar het punt van de doden toch echt niet. Op CNN waren hele verhalen over de doden, waar ze werkten, met wie ze getrouwd waren, namen van kinderen etc. Als er in het nieuws komt dat een lerares van een bepaalde school is overleden en ze heeft nooit bestaan, dan gaan mensen van die school toch zeggen dat het niet klopt?

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Operation Northwoods – Tricking US Citizens Into War Against Cuba

operation northwoodsIn 1962, the United State government drafted a plan to commit various acts of terrorism and sabotage on American soil for the sole purpose of gaining public approval for a war against Cuba. The plan was known as Operation Northwoods.

By the end of 1960, the Communist party had strengthened its grip on Cuba and their leader, Fidel Castro, was becoming the ultimate authority. Any opposition that formed within the media was immediately stifled through the government’s control of most media outlets.

Castro also surrounded himself with those only loyal to him, such as appointing his brother as the army chief. Castro made sure his people were loyal to the Communist party though various neighborhood spying programs.
The Bay of Pigs

The first attempt to overthrow the Communist regime in Cuba occurred in 1961. This attempt was known as the Bay of Pigs Invasion.
operation northwoods

The Bay of Pigs Invasion was an attempt by a CIA-trained force of Cuban exiles to invade southern Cuba, with support from US government armed forces, in order to overthrow Fidel Castro and his Communist government.

However, by 1961 Cuba had ammassed the second largest military force in Latin America and quickly defeated the exiles within three days.

After this dramatic failure, top military officials created and tried to push through a program called Operation Northwoods. This campaign of deception was described as, “A series of well coordinated incidents will be planned to take place in and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done by hostile Cuban forces.”
Details of Operation Northwoods

The plan is outlined in great detail in a series of declassified documents. The plan was going to consist of the following:

1. Starting a wide variety of rumors using clandestine radio
2. Staging base attacks using friendly Cuban operatives
3. Staging of base sabotage using friendly Cuban operatives
4. Staging of base riots using friendly Cuban operatives
5. Causing explosions and fires
6. Staging aircraft sabotage using friendly Cuban operatives
7. Faking mortar attacks
8. Staging assaults against bases using friendly Cuban operatives
9. Faking ship sabotage
10. Sinking a U.S. ship with fake funerals and mock victims

operation northwoods
Operation Northwoods was heavily reliant on time due to the fact that top brass wanted to execute the plan before the involvement of the Soviet Union.

Military officials were deeply concerned with Soviet involvement because Cuba had paraded several Soviet tanks during a New Year’s Day parade in 1961. However, the Soviets had not yet established a base in Cuba. Therefore, officials had to execute Operation Northwoods and overthrow the Communist government in roughly three months. This period of time, from start to finish, would give the Soviets little time to react and/or offer any reliable help.
Northwoods Denied by President Kennedy

Though the documents referenced here only seem to outline the plan along with the intended outcomes, further research implies that Operation Northwoods was quickly denied by the Kennedy administration.

In Investigative Reporter James Bramford’s book, Body of Secrets, he claims that, “The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy’s defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership.”

When the average American citizen reads a novel, such as American Hero by Larry Beinhart, or watches a movie such as Wag the Dog, or even hears a “nut job conspriracy theorist” tout his proof about the alleged 9/11 cover-up, he or she is quick to think that our government is not capable of conceiving such ideas.

However, those thoughts are quickly second guessed when actual declassified documents, such as Operation Northwoods, come to light that prove that our government is not only capable conceiving such ideas, but are also capable (and obviously willing) to implement them.

Bron: http://www.topsecretwrite(...)s-trick-us-citizens/

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Op donderdag 16 november 2017 10:22 schreef ChrisCarter het volgende:

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Resultaten uit het verleden bieden geen garantie voor de toekomst

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Op donderdag 16 november 2017 10:25 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Die mogelijkheid heb je niet kunnen uitsluiten.
Bovendien zijn de makers ervan met pensioen.

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Op donderdag 16 november 2017 10:32 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Ik kan ook niet uitsluiten dat de maan niet van kaas is gemaakt.
Maar dat betekent niet automatisch dat hij dus van kaas is.

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Op donderdag 16 november 2017 10:39 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:

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Juist. Maar daar wordt niet op ingegaan want dat past niet in het plaatje van de hoaxroepers.

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Op donderdag 16 november 2017 10:47 schreef Summers het volgende:

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De massavernietigingswapens fear porn jarenlang met de voltallige medewerking van de hele westerse msm en zolang er nog oorlogen worden gevoerd en macht behouden moet blijven worden is het nodig om ons propaganda en fear porn te blijven voeren .

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Op donderdag 16 november 2017 10:51 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Er staat duidelijk in het document dat de vs een nieuwe pearl harbor moet zien te voorkomen.

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"New Pearl Harbor"

Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor"

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Op donderdag 16 november 2017 11:05 schreef illusions het volgende:

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Er zijn ook plannen en scenarios voor als New York City wordt aangevallen met een nuke. Moet ik me nu zorgen gaan maken?