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Op vrijdag 13 mei 2016 15:50 schreef wimderon het volgende:

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Op donderdag 19 mei 2016 09:16 schreef franklop het volgende:

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Goed, geen dopinggebruik uiteraard, maar doping(controle) gerelateerd nieuws. Hopen dat het meevalt voor hem!

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Op donderdag 19 mei 2016 09:16 schreef franklop het volgende:

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Goed, geen dopinggebruik uiteraard, maar doping(controle) gerelateerd nieuws. Hopen dat het meevalt voor hem!

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petercossins twitterde op zaterdag 21-05-2016 om 13:39:39 Jeannie Longo's husband imprisoned for illegal purchase and importation of EPO https://t.co/cDSNwfVWvn reageer retweet

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The Union Cyclist Internationale (UCI) has imposed a two-year ban on Slovenian cyclist Blaza Klemencic, after reanalysis of a sample taken on 27 March 2012 returned a positive test for recombinant erythropoietin (EPO). ‘The results obtained by the rider from 27 March 2012 to 31 December 2012 are disqualified, whilst all other results shall stand’, read a UCI statement. That means that Klemencic will lose the silver medal she took at the 2014 MTB European Championships cross country race. Klemencic has been suspended since September last year, as reported by The Sports Integrity Initiative.

• Professional cyclists Iván Parra and Rafael Infantino have been banned for four years after testing positive for GHRP-2, which stimulates production of human growth hormone, reports El Tiempo.

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Op maandag 23 mei 2016 18:07 schreef Sloggi het volgende:

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Is zij zelf ooit gepakt eigenlijk?

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In September 1987 Longo tested positive for ephederine following a 3 km world record attempt in Colorado Springs. She served a 1-month ban for this offense.

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Longo also missed three doping tests in this same time period. Normally this would be penalized the same as a positive test but AFLD had failed to notify Longo that she would be targeted for testing in that year, thus letting her off.

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BESSASONE, Italy (VN) — Ten years after Operación Puerto, Jørg Jaksche has a hard time believing much has changed in cycling. A decade on, Jaksche lives in Australia, where he is pursuing a master’s degree in business administration, far away from the European peloton he watches with skepticism in the post-Puerto era. Many say the peloton has changed for the better, but Jaksche says he is not so convinced.

Now 39, the German ex-pro was among six riders of the dozens of racers linked to the 2006 scandal who were formally sanctioned in what is arguably the largest doping ring ever uncovered in cycling’s nefarious history. A pro from 1997 to 2007, Jaksche was a front-row witness to the good, bad, and very ugly of a peloton that was out of control

A son of German doctors who raced under an Austrian license, Jaksche won Paris-Nice in 2004, and raced in 11 grand tours. He lined up for some of the most notorious teams in the peloton, including Telekom, CSC, ONCE, Liberty Seguros, and Tinkoff Credit Systems. He saw and lived it all, and after he was busted, Jaksche stepped forward to help investigators in Germany and in the United States, but remains frustrated by what he sees as missed opportunities to change the peloton in the decade following Puerto.

On the 10th anniversary of the Puerto raids, VeloNews chatted to Jaksche via telephone to gauge his impressions of the modern peloton, his experiences as part of the Puerto doping ring, and why he regrets helping USADA to go after Lance Armstrong. Here are excerpts from the interview:

VeloNews: It’s been 10 years since the Puerto scandal, how much do you think has changed within professional cycling based on your experiences?
Jørg Jaksche: Nothing really has changed. There is a new UCI president, but if you break it down, the only real changes in cycling have come from pressure from WADA and the sponsors. Everything could go back to how it was 10 years ago if cycling is left to its own devices. If something has changed, it’s from external pressure, not because the people inside cycling wanted to change it.

VN: You don’t believe there is a new culture in cycling? That a new generation has come in without doping?
JJ: It is very difficult to trust the sport of cycling. I have a real problem with some of these managers. They ran teams that were winning at the high times of EPO doping, so it’s a little bit hard for me to believe today they are winning today on pan e aqua. A wolf cannot change his fur. Today, they tell you that because Lance Armstrong is out of the sport, that doping is out of the sport as well. Wait a minute — nearly every team director had something to do with doping. The hypocrisy still runs deep in cycling.

VN: So you insist that it’s naïve to believe that today’s winners are clean?
JJ: I often hope that things are as good and perfect as they tell us, but to be honest, the guys are racing faster today than when everyone was on EPO. Genetics doesn’t change in 10 years. Should we believe it that they are suddenly as fast as when EPO was widespread? You have to make up your own mind.

VN: The peloton seems to race differently; there are no big-ring attacks over the final two cols, isn’t that a sign that the peloton is cleaner?
JJ: It’s funny, because doping is like being pregnant. Either you’re pregnant or you’re not. There’s not just a little bit of doping. Maybe you can take cortisone, and you can justify that with a certificate, but you are still doping. Micro-dosing EPO is still doping. This idea of harder doping or lighter doping is absurd. You’re doping, and that’s it.

VN: We hear the stories about how easy it was to avoid detection, but today is must be more difficult?
JJ: It was very bad luck to have gotten caught for doping. When I turned pro in 1998, EPO was not detectible. The controls were easy to avoid. After I confessed, I had a meeting with the UCI, and I told them that I was blood doping and taking EPO and other drugs, and they were surprised because they thought I was one of the clean ones!

VN: So how surprised were you when the Spanish police busted up the Puerto ring in 2006?
JJ: We knew it was big when they arrested [ex-Liberty Seguros manager] Manolo Saiz, because they arrested someone for doping in sport in Spain, which everyone viewed as the free doping country. It was a big shock for everyone, because it was in the country where everyone thought they would never get caught for doping. Why do you think all the big cyclists moved to Spain? It wasn’t for the good training.
‘Almost impossible to win without EPO’

VN: When you were racing, was it possible to win without EPO?
JJ: Almost impossible. Whenever I had success, I was always using PEDs, but it was possible to race without it. I raced the 2000 Tour clean, because we were asked by the team to not take any risks because the sponsorship was up for renewal. We were really having a lousy Tour, but some of the riders on our team were carrying their own stuff, and then they won a stage. And later, the staff was so happy because they said they saved the team!

VN: Some have little sympathy for riders like yourself who doped, because wasn’t there a choice not to dope?
JJ: We were victims of the system, but we were all also participating in the system. We all had choices. We could work in a bike shop, or go to university. They said, ‘This is the program you need to win,’ and you are the one who made the decision, and, ‘OK, I will do it.’ No one ever held my hand into the fire, and pushed the needle into my arm. It was offered as these are the options you have. If you didn’t dope, it didn’t have consequences at first, but if you wanted to race the Tour de France, you wouldn’t have the results, and you wouldn’t be selected. There was no one forcing you to do it, but it was the system that was forcing you to do it. That’s how it worked. No one ever said you had to do EPO, but it was obvious that if you wanted to go fast, you had to take EPO.

VN: How did it work with Puerto ringleader Dr. Euefemiano Fuentes? Based on testimony, it sounded like conditions were unsafe?
JJ: Manolo [Saiz] introduced us to Fuentes, and said he’s our new doctor, and he will call you. The transfusions were always done in hotels, but they were always four-star [laughs]. You are more likely to get a virus or bacteria from a hospital, and Fuentes always kept things clean. From what we could see, he seemed careful, but what we didn’t know was what he was doing with it later. You didn’t know how long he kept the bags in the car, and you couldn’t control the follow-up, and how he handled the bags. Sometimes I heard it was pretty sketchy.

VN: We heard testimony of bad transfusions and riders’ urine turning black; did you ever experience anything like that?
JJ: That never happened to me. Sometimes he was in a bit of a hurry, and the bags were not completely thawed out, and you could feel that cold blood running into your arm. It felt like you were going into a cold shock. Once in a while, you were hyperventilating afterward. It didn’t feel good. You just had to accept that he knew what he was doing. You experience so many strange things in this professional racing career. Sometimes they missed a vein, and sometimes you feel like they were messing with your body. You just had to accept it as part of professional cycling.
‘No one ever said, let’s stop this madness’

VN: Did you ever feel that things had gotten too crazy, and over the top?
JJ: For me, it was just part of the job. Believe me, I was never too happy or proud of what I did. We all knew it was somehow very crazy, that it had gone too far, but there was never anyone who stood up, and said, ‘Let’s stop all this madness.’ When I look back now, there was never anyone there who said something like that. We were all under pressure to perform and get results.

VN: There were reportedly up to 60 riders involved, but you were among the few given a sanction, which effectively ended your career, do you feel bitter about that?
JJ: I know there are some names of big riders that never came out. Perhaps not even half of the names have been revealed. There are still many people who have their blood bags in that freezer in the lab in Barcelona. Maybe they are not sleeping very easily at night, but today, you see them working as sport directors, or on TV as commentators.

VN: And then Armstrong was busted, and you participated in the USADA report, why did you agree to cooperate?
JJ: I was very surprised, because everyone thought Armstrong was untouchable. But when you get the public prosecutor involved, it was clear it was not funny anymore. I was part of this USADA report because I wanted to be transparent and help change cycling, but I have to say in retrospect, it was a mistake to have testified. The USADA report wasn’t about truth and honesty and change, it was only about going after Lance. I am almost embarrassed to have been part of this report, because it is so biased. All these people that testified, the only picture they draw is that Lance was evil, and that he made them dope. Well, that’s not true, because they continued to dope when they were on other teams!

VN: After you were caught, you decided to confess everything?
JJ: It was all very difficult for me, because some of the people pointing their fingers at us were the same ones who pushed us to doping the year before. When I was first spoke up, it was very delicate, and then I decided to admit everything, and I did something worse; I decided to accuse everyone in the entourage. I was going against the omertà, because I was fed up with the hypocrisy.

VN: What have you done since leaving cycling?
JJ: I come from a little bit different background. My parents are doctors, and they never liked that I became a professional cyclist, and in a certain way, that has helped me to look for something else in life. After I left cycling, I was fighting through some lows. I was tired and sad about my situation. Sometimes, it was hard to take it all in. You are being painted as the villain, sometimes by the same guys who were on a bed next to you drawing out the blood bags. Everyone is telling you that you are part of a bad generation, but no one was talking about the real problem of doping, about the culture of doping that was everywhere in professional cycling. Sometimes it was all very stressful, especially when you could finally see nothing would change, and seeing that the same old gangsters were still running the show. A few of us have paid the price of the sins of everyone. I tried to do what I could to help change the sport. I am OK now. I am living in Sydney, going to university, studying business

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JJ: It’s funny, because doping is like being pregnant. Either you’re pregnant or you’re not. There’s not just a little bit of doping. Maybe you can take cortisone, and you can justify that with a certificate, but you are still doping. Micro-dosing EPO is still doping. This idea of harder doping or lighter doping is absurd. You’re doping, and that’s it.

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JaredTallent twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 13:11:34 @OlympicStatman @iaaforg this was in the 2015 IAAF anti-doping athletes guide at the Beijing World Champs - whoops! https://t.co/pP4I8SHfsp reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 14:54 schreef heywoodu het volgende:

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JaredTallent twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 13:11:34 @OlympicStatman @iaaforg this was in the 2015 IAAF anti-doping athletes guide at the Beijing World Champs - whoops! https://t.co/pP4I8SHfsp reageer retweet

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OlympicStatman twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 16:13:02 2008 positive - Yuliya ChermoshanskayaBelgium win women's 4 x100 gold.(if confirmed) reageer retweet

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OlympicStatman twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 16:16:34 2008 positive - Denis AlekseyevGBR move to bronze(if confirmed) reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 16:28 schreef heywoodu het volgende:
Mogelijk goud voor België

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OlympicStatman twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 16:13:02 2008 positive - Yuliya ChermoshanskayaBelgium win women's 4 x100 gold.(if confirmed) reageer retweet

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OlympicStatman twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 16:16:34 2008 positive - Denis AlekseyevGBR move to bronze(if confirmed) reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 17:03 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 17:09 schreef Tarado het volgende:

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Blijft klote om het op die manier te winnen

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Barking_Madness twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 17:18:35 @Digger_forum Sorted. https://t.co/oPpAEZ6glc reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 19:23 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
de tester opsluiten in de garage

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Barking_Madness twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 17:18:35 @Digger_forum Sorted. https://t.co/oPpAEZ6glc reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 14:41 schreef heywoodu het volgende:
De coach van Anna Chicherova zou hebben gezegd dat één van de positieve stalen van 2008 van haar zijn. Om maar even met een grote naam te beginnen:

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 19:34 schreef Szura het volgende:

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Kan niet, technisch onderdeel

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 16:28 schreef heywoodu het volgende:
Mogelijk goud voor België

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OlympicStatman twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 16:13:02 2008 positive - Yuliya ChermoshanskayaBelgium win women's 4 x100 gold.(if confirmed) reageer retweet

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OlympicStatman twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 16:16:34 2008 positive - Denis AlekseyevGBR move to bronze(if confirmed) reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 21:43 schreef Wombcat het volgende:
Allemaal russen?
Poetin zal dit leuk vinden

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 19:40 schreef heywoodu het volgende:

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Speerwerpen is ook puur technisch, dus Abakumova op de lijst is sowieso onzin.

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Dit zeg ik ook deels omdat ik bang ben dat ze me anders met twee vingers in veertien stukken scheurt.

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"Voor mij is dit een grote schok. Ik kan niet uitleggen hoe dit is kunnen gebeuren. Ik heb altijd vertrouwen gehad in de mensen uit mijn entourage."

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 21:43 schreef Wombcat het volgende:
Allemaal russen?
Poetin zal dit leuk vinden

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2016 14:54 schreef heywoodu het volgende:

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JaredTallent twitterde op dinsdag 24-05-2016 om 13:11:34 @OlympicStatman @iaaforg this was in the 2015 IAAF anti-doping athletes guide at the Beijing World Champs - whoops! https://t.co/pP4I8SHfsp reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 13:16 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:

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Nog los van het feit dat ik wel geloof dat ze allemaal positief zijn, is het toch wel enorm vreemd dat er alleen Russen betrapt worden. Worden de stalen van de Chinezen of Amerikanen niet hertest ofzo ?

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 12:03 schreef pipster het volgende:
Onder het motto van ik kreeg wel van alles toegediend waarvan ik niet wist wat het was, maar ze zeiden dat het geen doping was.

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 13:16 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:

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Nog los van het feit dat ik wel geloof dat ze allemaal positief zijn, is het toch wel enorm vreemd dat er alleen Russen betrapt worden. Worden de stalen van de Chinezen of Amerikanen niet hertest ofzo ?

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 13:36 schreef heywoodu het volgende:

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Er worden niet alleen Russen betrapt. De Russen zijn de enigen waar de namen van naar buiten zijn gekomen voorlopig, de rest komt ook echt nog wel binnen korte tijd.

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 14:32 schreef opgebaarde het volgende:

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Precies en we weten dat er in ieder geval geen Britten bij zitten.

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Op donderdag 28 april 2016 23:50 schreef Koffieplanter het volgende:

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 17:59 schreef wimderon het volgende:
http://m.la1ere.francetvi(...)-devoile-363345.html

Lekker dopen voor de Ronde van Guadeloupe.

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De grote supplier zou een medewerker van de Colombiaanse wielerbond zijn.

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Jonathan Louis y a ses habitudes.
Certaines analyses, qui corroborent la problématique de santé publique du dopage dans le cyclisme guadeloupéen, feraient état de taux hématocrite de 67, c’est à dire à un niveau où la vie du sportif est clairement en danger.

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 18:32 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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67 pure stroop door je aderen.

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thijszonneveld twitterde op woensdag 25-05-2016 om 18:55:14 Mevrouw Onyia (hordenloopster) is met een retro-test positief getest. Het was pas de 5e keer dat ze werd betrapt. https://t.co/eykaayYQv5 reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 18:57 schreef Pino112 het volgende:

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thijszonneveld twitterde op woensdag 25-05-2016 om 18:55:14 Mevrouw Onyia (hordenloopster) is met een retro-test positief getest. Het was pas de 5e keer dat ze werd betrapt. https://t.co/eykaayYQv5 reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 19:15 schreef heywoodu het volgende:
Positief bij een wedstrijd op 2 september 2008.
Positief bij een wedstrijd op 13 september 2008.

Geen schorsing door de Spanjaarden, "want ze heeft ook twee keer negatief getest."

IAAF gaat naar CAS --> Twee jaar schorsing.

Terugkeren in januari 2011, in juli 2011 weer positief --> Twee jaar schorsing

Terugkeren en in augustus 2015 weer positief.

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 19:50 schreef TargaFlorio het volgende:

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Je zou bijna gaan denken dat de oorzaak een lichaams eigen afwijking is i.p.v. doping.

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 19:54 schreef heywoodu het volgende:

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Totdat je ziet dat het bij elke test weer om iets anders ging.

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Op woensdag 25 mei 2016 19:54 schreef heywoodu het volgende:

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Totdat je ziet dat het bij elke test weer om iets anders ging.