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quote:Op maandag 25 januari 2016 12:08 schreef ClapClapYourHands het volgende:
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Dit is van hetzelfde niveau als de mensen die juichen voor de slachtoffers van 9/11. Of degenen die juichen voor Bataclan.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 21:32 schreef Woestijnvos het volgende:
Dat er nog veel meer Turken mogen sneuvelen.
Dat er nog veel pkk terroristen/ezelneukers mogen sterven, liefst pijnlijk. Eigenlijk zou openbare steun aan een terroristische organisatie strafbaar moeten zijn.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 21:32 schreef Woestijnvos het volgende:
Dat er nog veel meer Turken mogen sneuvelen.
Word een rustig topic dan. Lekker juichen voor de dood van inviduele soldaten, welke kant ook is simpelweg barbaars.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 23:21 schreef TeenWolf het volgende:
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Dat er nog veel pkk terroristen/ezelneukers mogen sterven, liefst pijnlijk. Eigenlijk zou openbare steun aan een terroristische organisatie strafbaar moeten zijn.
IP etc is bekend, maar goed.
Nee. Turkije heeft meer onschuldige Koerden vermoord dan andersom het geval is. De PKK, zolang ze militaire doelen blijven aanvallen, verdienen elke steun van de westerse wereld.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 22:40 schreef polderturk het volgende:
Dit is van hetzelfde niveau als de mensen die juichen voor de slachtoffers van 9/11. Of degenen die juichen voor Bataclan.
Die steun blijft lang uit he? Misschien dat ze toch niet zo lief zijn? Turkije pakt elke dag die 'onschuldige Koerden' aan, maar ze geven geen kick, wat raar.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 23:27 schreef Intellectueel het volgende:
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Nee. Turkije heeft meer onschuldige Koerden vermoord dan andersom het geval is. De PKK, zolang ze militaire doelen blijven aanvallen, verdienen elke steun van de westerse wereld.
Geopolitieke belangen. What else is new.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 23:32 schreef TeenWolf het volgende:
Die steun blijft lang uit he? Misschien dat ze toch niet zo lief zijn? Turkije pakt elke dag die 'onschuldige Koerden' aan, maar ze geven geen kick, wat raar.
Volgens jouw redenatie hebben de Palestijnen de behandeling van Israël ook over zichzelf afgeroepen. Moslims in Bangladesh ook. Aboriginals in Australië ook. Indianen in Amerika. Allemaal onderdrukt en beroofd van land en huis en haard. En niemand geeft een fuck.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 23:32 schreef TeenWolf het volgende:
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Die steun blijft lang uit he? Misschien dat ze toch niet zo lief zijn? Turkije pakt elke dag die 'onschuldige Koerden' aan, maar ze geven geen kick, wat raar.
Precies, het kan toch niet op een vreedzame wijze, gezien er geen vrijheid van meningsuiting is.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 23:27 schreef Intellectueel het volgende:
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Nee. Turkije heeft meer onschuldige Koerden vermoord dan andersom het geval is. De PKK, zolang ze militaire doelen blijven aanvallen, verdienen elke steun van de westerse wereld.
Goede beslissing dit, geen vrijheid van meningsuiting, media die onder controle staat van de regering evenals het politie- en justitie-apparaat.quote:Nederland mag een Koerdische man met de Turkse en Nederlandse nationaliteit niet aan Turkije uitleveren. Dat heeft het gerechtshof in Den Haag dinsdag bepaald in een kort geding.
De bewuste man is een Koerdische Aleviet die wordt verdacht van drugshandel. Het Haagse hof vindt het voldoende aannemelijk dat hij jarenlang actief is geweest in de Koerdische onafhankelijkheidsstrijd.
De Turkse autoriteiten stellen alles in het werk om de Koerdische onafhankelijkheidsbeweging PKK en zijn leden, die zij als terroristen beschouwen, definitief uit te schakelen.
De rechtbank in Den Haag stelde de man aanvankelijk in het ongelijk. Op basis van het Europees Verdrag voor de Rechten van de Mens (EVRM) oordeelt het hof nu dat de man in Turkije een reëel risico loopt op marteling. Daarom heeft het gerechtshof in Den Haag in hoger beroep besloten om de uitlevering niet toe te staan.
De advocaat van de Koerd, Bart Stapert, is blij met deze uitspraak. In het najaar mocht een andere Koerd en cliënt van Stapert wel worden uitgeleverd aan Turkije. ''Hij werd in Turkije aan een stok opgehangen en gemarteld. Ik heb hem in Turkije nog bezocht'', vertelt de advocaat. ''Omdat het in die zaak is misgegaan, heeft het hof gezien hoe de uitlevering kan uitpakken.''
quote:In mid-July 2012, the Syrian government withdrew its forces from a large amount of territory along the Turkish border. This move allowed the Democratic Union Party (PYD), a Kurdish nationalist group linked to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK)—a US- and Turkish-designated terrorist group—to take administrative and military control over the self-declared cantons of Efrin, Kobani and Jazira, collectively named Rojava. The link between the PYD and PKK challenges Turkey’s interests in Syria and, by its own estimate, its national security.
To support the PYD’s political and military efforts in Syria, Kurds from Turkey, Iran, and Iraq have travelled to Syria to join with the People’s Protection Units (YPG), the PYD’s militia. The growing sense of cross-border pan-Kurdish nationalism has contributed to the resurgence in violence in Turkey’s southeast, following the break-down of peace talks in mid-July 2015 between the Turkish government and the PKK. In an interview with the International Crisis Group, an unidentified PKK member underscored the importance of Rojava, describing the war in northern Syria as a historic opportunity to implement its program of “democratic self-administration,” a system of governance based on imprisoned PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan’s teachings.
Between 2013 and late 2014, the Turkish government tolerated the cross-border movement of Kurds and a small number of radical leftist Turks. Ankara acted out of deference to the then ongoing peace talks with Öcalan and welcomed the large exodus of PKK-allied Kurds for strategic reasons. The government considered the YPG-ISIS war a net positive, given that two entities hostile to Turkey were killing one another.
During this time period, Turkish security forces refrained from conducting military operations in Kurdish-majority areas and the presence of PKK fighters was tolerated in urban areas. A key turning point, however, came in September 2014, when the Islamic State (ISIS or ISIL) besieged the town of Kobani. In response, the Turkish military sealed the porous Turkey-Syria border that Kurds had been using to fight and trade with their counterparts in Rojava.
Despite the tightened border, Kurds from Turkey remain well represented in the YPG, further underscoring the group’s links to the PKK. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Kurdish fighter Zind Ruken expanded on the PKK-YPG relationship. “Sometimes I’m a PKK, sometimes I’m a PJAK [the PKK-allied affiliate, active in Iran], sometimes I’m a YPG. It doesn’t really matter. They are all members of the PKK.”
The YPG’s casualty data confirms linkages between international PKK-linked groups. Kurds from Turkey total 49.24 percent of the YPG’s self-reported casualties between January 2013 and January 2016, according to an ongoing Atlantic Council study. YPG martyrdom notices show that 359 Turkish citizens, 323 Syrians, 32 Iranians, seven Iraqis, two Australians, two Azeris, and a person from England, Germany, Greece, and the United States each have been killed fighting with the group since January 2013. To be sure, there are methodological problems with the data: The two authors relied on self-reported numbers and have not been able to cross-reference this information with the PYD.
Nonetheless, the casualty data closely reflects known YPG offensives, including the 2014 clashes around Ras al-Ain with the Nusra Front, the battle for Kobani in September 2014, and the 2015 YPG-led offensive towards the Euphrates river and Ain Issa, a town near ISIS’s de facto capital of Raqqa. According to the data, the battle for Kobani accounted for 38.95 percent of overall casualties and 44.4 percent of the Turkish Kurds killed with the YPG between 2013 and 2016.
During the battle for Kobani, the US-led anti-ISIS coalition worked closely with the YPG to direct airstrikes. Since then, the coalition has retained its close links with the group, deploying up to 50 special operations forces inside PYD-controlled territory and reportedly staffing an airfield inside Syria to ferry supplies to Kurdish-controlled territory. Backed by coalition airstrikes, the YPG has made considerable advances against ISIS and now controls 265 miles of territory along the Turkish-Syrian border.
The Turkish government views this collaboration with suspicion, owing to the YPG’s relationship with the PKK. Officially, Turkey makes no distinction between the YPG and the PKK. However, Ankara’s actions suggest that the government tolerates the US-YPG partnership. US aircraft based at Turkey’s İncirlik Air Force Base fly strike missions in support of the YPG in Syria just as the Turkish Air Force bombs PKK targets in northern Iraq and southeastern Turkey.
While the US-YPG partnership has put considerable pressure on ISIS, the PYD’s political ambitions inside Syria (matching closely with those of the PKK) pose a longer term threat to Turkish security. This threat has grown more immediate in recent months, following the collapse of a two-year-old ceasefire in July between the PKK and the Turkish government.
According to the International Crisis Group, between July and mid-December 2015, “Violence claimed the lives of 194 security officials, at least 221 PKK insurgents and as many as 151 civilians.” Much of the fighting has taken place in urban areas between the PKK’s youth group, the YDG-H, and Turkish security forces. In recent weeks, the YDG-H has rebranded itself as the YPS (Civil Defense Units), which now flies a flag identical in design to that of the YPG, albeit with different colors.
For now, the PYD remains focused on its political project inside Syria, which requires a YPG-Turkey ceasefire. Open hostility risks opening another front against the Turkish military while its forces are deployed against ISIS. PYD successes in Syria, however, have influenced the PKK’s overarching ambitions in Turkey and, in turn, the Turkish government’s assessment of the threat they pose.
The PKK’s involvement in two overlapping fronts shape this assessment. The first front remains inside Turkey against Turkish security forces for what the Democratic Society Congress (a PKK-linked Kurdish group inside Turkey) recently called the formation of autonomous regions based on cultural, economic, and geographic ties. The second hinges on support for the PYD’s project inside Syria via the YPG. This investment and possible PKK-YPG cooperation suggests similar political ambitions in Turkey and Syria, and is disturbing to the Turkish government.
How the relationship between the Turkish state and the PKK develops largely depends on how the PKK approaches—and defines—autonomous governance in Turkey. Before the collapse of the peace process, leaks about the state of the peace talks suggested that Öcalan appeared willing to support a proposal backed by Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party’s (AKP) to transition to a presidential system in exchange for some semblance of democratic autonomy. The move would have helped resolve the issue peacefully by addressing key Kurdish demands (beyond those espoused by the PKK) for greater political and cultural autonomy. The AKP supported the premise of this potential compromise, although many details needed to be worked out before implementation.
For now, the return to violence and growing Kurdish antipathy towards the AKP rules this out. The PKK’s military leadership and the leaders of Turkey’s Kurdish-majority Democratic Peoples’ Party (HDP) remain hostile to the further empowerment of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, who many Kurds blame for the rise of ISIS. Öcalan has not been allowed to speak with the outside world, either through his lawyers or the HDP, since April.
The PKK leadership in Kandil refuses to return to peace talks unless the Turkish government addresses the group’s demand for “democratic autonomy.” Today, the PYD continues to pursue this vision in Syria, pushing to unite the Kobani and Jazira cantons with Efrin (a disconnected piece of Kurdish-administered territory opposite Turkey’s Hatay region).
The Atlantic Council’s casualty data shows a clear shift in casualties in late 2015 towards the western front near the Tishreen Dam, compared to a few months earlier, when YPG fighters were dying near Ain Issa. The trend suggests that the YPG intends to expand its territory east of Efrin and west of the Euphrates—directly challenging Turkish interests in northern Syria, but in line with the group’s longer-term ambitions in northern Syria.
The synergies between the PKK and PYD’s overarching political goals pose a longer-term problem for Turkish interests in Syria. The violence in Turkey’s southeast contributes to these problems and hastens unilateral declarations of autonomy in Kurdish districts and towns inside Turkey. The United States is now involved in this unfolding conflict through its support for the YPG. Absent a return to Turkish-PKK peace talks that address the autonomy question, these dynamics point to continued violence and, more broadly, considerable friction between the United States and Turkey over the PYD and PKK’s longer term political endgame.
Hoe kan dit? Zal waarschijnlijk de PKK wel zijn die eigen burgers doodschiet, net zoals de PKK die aanslagen pleegt op eigen aanhangers zoals ome Erdogan gelijk verkondigde na de aanslag in Ankara.quote:The top human rights official for the United Nations has demanded Turkey investigate an incident in which unarmed civilians were reportedly targeted and shot by security forces last month, BBC reported Monday. The event, which left at least 10 people wounded, occurred in the southeastern, predominantly Kurdish city of Cizre, which has seen some of the fiercest clashes between Kurdish militants and the Turkish military in recent months.
The shooting, which was caught on video, was “extremely shocking,” according to Zeid Raad Al Hussein, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights. The video is dated Jan. 20 and appears to show a group of Turkish Kurds coming under fire as they attempt to rescue people wounded earlier during clashes. People can be seen in the video being loaded into ambulances as screams and explosions are heard in the background.
The man who recorded the incident was reportedly arrested.
"Filming an atrocity is not a crime, but shooting unarmed civilians most certainly is," Hussein said in a statement Monday. "It is essential that there is a thorough, independent, impartial investigation into this and any other events that have led to the wounding or killing of civilians."
3 security officers in Cizre, 1 in Sur killed, 4 others injured at the weekend in conflict https://t.co/UJmJc3cJhT pic.twitter.com/MSG63PXeMb
— bianet English (@bianet_eng) February 1, 2016
Shocking #Cizre video showing alleged shooting of unarmed people raises questions about the situation in SE #Turkey https://t.co/Pp0bHCJcoy
— UN Human Rights (@UNHumanRights) February 1, 2016
Turkey has experienced spiraling violence in recent months since a tenuous cease-fire broke last summer amid spillover from the war in Syria.
The PKK, a militant Kurdish group, has launched ambushes and attacks against Turkish security forces, relaunching a generationslong war for semi-autonomy from Turkey. Turkey has responded by placing several Kurdish towns and cities under curfew and has launched airstrikes against Turkish Kurdish militants, many of whom are based in Iraq.
More than 200 Turkish soldiers and policemen have been killed in violence since last year by the PKK — labeled a terrorist organization by the U.S. and Turkey — and nearly 200 civilians have been killed in areas under curfew since August. The latest violence has derailed negotiations between Turkey and militants and revived a push for self-rule in Turkey’s predominantly Kurdish southeast.
twitter:DrPartizan_ twitterde op zondag 31-01-2016 om 01:39:50Kurdish civilians in Sur, Amed, say Turkish police tell them they must leave & they can never return to their homes. https://t.co/0yzosud0dn reageer retweet
twitter:DrPartizan_ twitterde op donderdag 04-02-2016 om 19:28:55Deniz Naki: Kurdish footballer given a 12 match ban by Turkey for dedicating a win to Kurds killed by Turkish gvt. https://t.co/ovMNIiR9K1 reageer retweet
twitter:fgeerdink twitterde op donderdag 04-02-2016 om 21:47:44anadolu deceives their readers and those who genuinly want to contribute and take the time to explain their stance. https://t.co/PfesAgMZ7R reageer retweet
twitter:WashingtonPoint twitterde op woensdag 10-02-2016 om 13:48:05Turkey loses 9 police and military men within last 24 hours in Seast operations against PKK. pic v hurriyet https://t.co/3FQlZYADmz reageer retweet
quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 23:27 schreef Intellectueel het volgende:
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Nee. Turkije heeft meer onschuldige Koerden vermoord dan andersom het geval is. De PKK, zolang ze militaire doelen blijven aanvallen, verdienen elke steun van de westerse wereld.
Nee, want Koerden zijn irrelevant in het geopolitieke spelletje. Bedoel, wat zijn de Koerden nu eigenlijk? een bergvolkje dat van economische tot wetenschappelijke zaken geen nuttige bijdrage leveren.quote:Op maandag 1 februari 2016 23:27 schreef Intellectueel het volgende:
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Nee. Turkije heeft meer onschuldige Koerden vermoord dan andersom het geval is. De PKK, zolang ze militaire doelen blijven aanvallen, verdienen elke steun van de westerse wereld.
AA staat allang niet meer voor Anadoly Agency, maar voor AKP Agency.quote:Op donderdag 4 februari 2016 22:17 schreef primakov het volgende:
Anadolu Agency is ook lekker bezig:
Hulde aan het leger!!quote:Op donderdag 11 februari 2016 22:36 schreef ClapClapYourHands het volgende:
Operaties in Cizre afgelopen
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quote:On Saturday, the chairman of the Swedish Committee of Party of Free Life of Kurdistan (PJAK) was shot during a pro-Kurdish demonstration in the Fittja suburb of Stockholm. The 52 year old still has life-threatening injuries.
The victim was sitting in a van that accompanied the pro-Kurdish demonstration as a black Audi drove by at high speed, opening fire on the protest. The attackers managed to escape, and until now the police haven’t managed to arrest any suspects.
Zegt niks, op de onderste foto's is Erdogan samen met belangrijke figuren van de Amerikaans/joodse lobby, foto's zijn nog geen week oud.quote:
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