Update: Akkoord bereikt over atoomprogramma Iran

quote:

Op woensdag 15 juli 2015 17:22 schreef TweeGrolsch het volgende:

[..]

Zo'n overgang brengt chaos met zich mee precies in een tijd dat de VS er goed op staat bij de Cubanen. Dat land is binnen 10 jaar kapitalistisch met een pro westerse regering.

quote:

Op donderdag 16 juli 2015 19:23 schreef Odaiba het volgende:
Klopt het dat als we inspecties willen uitvoeren wij dit dan een maand van tevoren moeten aanvragen bij Iran? In dat geval kun je niet echt spreken over een inspectie.

quote:

Under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty's "Additional Protocol," the IAEA may ask for "managed access" to any site, including military, but a country can legitimately bar access by tying the U.N. nuclear watchdog up in endless negotiations.

This deal aims to close such loopholes with a process under which Iran would give access or otherwise allay IAEA concerns within 24 days, a time frame experts say is tight enough to keep it from sanitizing unauthorized nuclear work.

Iran and the IAEA have 14 days to resolve disagreements among themselves. If they fail to, a joint commission comprised of eight members - the six major powers, Iran and the European Union - would consider the matter for a week.

A majority of the eight could then inform Iran of the steps it would then take within three more days.

Majority-rule means the United States and its European allies -- Britain, France, Germany and the EU -- could insist on access or any other steps and that Iran, Russia or China could not veto them.

"This almost inevitably means inspections but without saying so. That’s why diplomats make the big bucks," Perkovich added.

Nonproliferation experts said the regime falls short of the "anywhere, anytime" inspections demanded by critics of the deal, including many Republicans, but said that would only be possible in a country that has been defeated militarily.

"It’s not a perfect procedure. It would be good to get no notice inspections, but that simply wasn’t in the cards," said Bob Einhorn, a nonproliferation specialist at the Brookings Institution think tank and former U.S. negotiator with Iran.

NO ACCESS TO IRANIAN "BEDROOMS"

In hailing the agreement on Tuesday, U.S. President Barack Obama said it meant that "inspectors will have 24/7 access to Iran’s key nuclear facilities."

Obama, who on Wednesday said the deal represented the "most vigorous inspection and verification regime, by far, that has ever been negotiated," was referring only to Iran's declared nuclear sites.

Sites that the IAEA has suspicions about, including any that may be within Iran's many military complexes, fall under the separate procedure with its 24-day time limit.

quote:

Op donderdag 16 juli 2015 19:31 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:

[..]

24 dagen voor "verdachte sites", onmiddelijke toegang tot de bekende nucleaire sites.

[..]

http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)dUSKCN0PP2TG20150715

quote:

Op vrijdag 17 juli 2015 00:59 schreef Blue_Panther_Ninja het volgende:
Iran heeft de NPT getekend en toch nog is het niet genoeg voor VS Republikeinen en Netanyu's regering.

quote:

Op vrijdag 17 juli 2015 01:00 schreef Janneke141 het volgende:

[..]

Een handtekening zegt dan ook niets over de daadwerkelijke plannen van Iran.

quote:

Op donderdag 16 juli 2015 19:23 schreef Odaiba het volgende:
Klopt het dat als we inspecties willen uitvoeren wij dit dan een maand van tevoren moeten aanvragen bij Iran? In dat geval kun je niet echt spreken over een inspectie.

quote:

More than 100 former American ambassadors wrote to President Obama on Thursday praising the nuclear deal reached with Iran this week as a “landmark agreement” that could be effective in halting Tehran’s development of a nuclear weapon, and urging Congress to support it.

“If properly implemented, this comprehensive and rigorously negotiated agreement can be an effective instrument in arresting Iran’s nuclear program and preventing the spread of nuclear weapons in the volatile and vitally important region of the Middle East,” said the letter, whose signers include diplomats named by presidents of both political parties.

They wrote that they recognized the deal “is not a perfect or risk-free settlement of this problem.”

“However,” they added, “we believe that without it, the risks to the security of the United States and our friends and allies would be far greater.”

quote:

Op donderdag 16 juli 2015 19:23 schreef Odaiba het volgende:
Klopt het dat als we inspecties willen uitvoeren wij dit dan een maand van tevoren moeten aanvragen bij Iran? In dat geval kun je niet echt spreken over een inspectie.

quote:

Op vrijdag 17 juli 2015 09:21 schreef reza1 het volgende:

[..]

Je kan niet binnen 24 dagen de sporen uitwissen.

quote:

Op vrijdag 17 juli 2015 12:27 schreef Odaiba het volgende:

[..]

Het is volgens de eene partij het minimum aantal dagen om nog in te kunnen ''grijpen'', dus tsja zeg eht maar. Wil je wel geloven, maar het loopt soms anders.

quote:

Op vrijdag 17 juli 2015 15:56 schreef reza1 het volgende:

[..]

Volgens Netanyahu en zijn maatjes, die bekend staan om hun leugens. Zeggen dat Iran aan een nucleair wapen werkt terwijl zelfs de eigen Mossad zegt dat dat niet het geval is.

quote:

Clinton: I don't trust the Iranians

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton offered her most pessimistic assessment yet of the Iran nuclear deal on Thursday, telling supporters the United States should not trust Tehran to carry out the agreement.

"Do I trust the Iranians?" Clinton said. "Absolutely not."

Clinton has largely been supportive of the agreement struck between the United States, five other world powers and Iran to limit its nuclear program in exchange for relief from economic sanctions.

But in New Hampshire, she asserted for the first time that critics of the deal had "a respectable argument."

The former secretary of state reiterated her belief that the deal was the best the United States could reach at present, but added later in an exchange with reporters: "No one should be deluded about the continuing threat that Iran poses to the region."

Clinton said that as president, her posture toward Iran would be "Don’t trust, and verify," saying the United States would employ intrusive inspections and extensive monitoring to ensure Tehran complies with the accord.

The comments reflected a continuing attempt by Clinton since the deal was struck to support the Obama administration and yet stake out a tougher stance on the issue of Iran.

If Clinton was trying to distance herself slightly from President Barack Obama’s foreign policy, it would not be the first time. Last year, after the publication of her memoir of her time at the State Department, Clinton criticized the administration’s approach toward the civil war in Syria, arguing the United States should have done more to aid rebels battling the Assad government.

Her remarks are likely to further embolden Republicans in Congress who have broadly panned the agreement and have argued it opens the way for Tehran to eventually get a nuclear weapon.

U.S. House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner told reporters on Thursday it was "pretty clear" that a majority of members of the House and Senate opposed it.

Obama has pledged to veto any attempt by Republicans to sink the deal. It would take a two-thirds vote of both houses of Congress to override such a veto, which is considered highly unlikely.

The Democratic leader in the House, Nancy Pelosi, expressed strong support for the deal on Thursday, adding: "I'm very optimistic about our vote of support for the president."

quote:

Op donderdag 16 juli 2015 23:41 schreef Djibril het volgende:
Slechte deal voor het Westen, goede deal voor Iran.

quote:

Pro-Israel Aipac Creates Group to Lobby Against the Iran Deal

The pro-Israel group Aipac has formed a tax-exempt lobbying group to oppose the nuclear deal reached this week with Iran.

Aipac, an acronym for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, has been a vocal critic of President Obama’s policies toward Israel and his negotiations with Iran. The new group, Citizens for a Nuclear Free Iran, was formed with the sole mission of educating the public “about the dangers of the proposed Iran deal,” said Patrick Dorton, a spokesman.

“This will be a sizable and significant national campaign on the flaws in the Iran deal,” Mr. Dorton said.

A person who had been briefed on the plan said the group planned to spend upward of $20 million on the effort. Another person familiar with the campaign said advertising was planned in 30 to 40 states. Both spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to reveal details of the campaign.

The new group is starting up as Mr. Obama and the White House are mounting a major push to sell the accord on Capitol Hill, where members of Congress will have 60 days to review it and hold an up-or-down vote once it is submitted. Most Republicans have declared their opposition and some Democrats have voiced skepticism, raising the possibility that Congress could vote to reject the deal and that Mr. Obama might not have enough votes to sustain a veto of a disapproval resolution.

While Mr. Dorton said the lobbying effort would target members of both parties, Democrats would be a focal point.

“Democrats should be especially concerned, because the deal increases the chances of war, will spur a nuclear arms race and rewards an Iran with a horrific human rights record,” Mr. Dorton said.

The group’s advisory committee includes several former Democratic members of Congress, including former Senators Evan Bayh of Indiana, Mark Begich of Alaska, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, and former Representative Shelley Berkley of Nevada, according to its website.

It is also tapping several prominent Democratic operatives, including the pollster Mark S. Mellman, the media consultant Mark Putnam, and the digital firm Trilogy Interactive, said a person familiar with the campaign, who would detail its key players only on the condition of anonymity.

quote:

The United Nations Security Council on Monday unanimously approved a resolution that creates the basis for international economic sanctions against Iran to be lifted and potentially sets up an angry showdown in Congress.

The 15-0 vote for approval of the resolution, 14 pages long, was written in Vienna by diplomats who negotiated a landmark pact last week that limits Iran’s nuclear capabilities in exchange for ending the sanctions.

Iran has pledged to let in international monitors to inspect its facilities for the next 10 years and other measures that were devised to guarantee that its nuclear energy activities are purely peaceful.

The Security Council resolution, which is legally binding, lays out the steps required for the lifting of United Nations sanctions, not the sanctions imposed separately by the United States and the European Union.

But diplomats have warned that if the United States Congress refuses to lift American penalties against Iran, the Iranians may renege on their commitments as well, which could result in a collapse of the entire deal.

The resolution takes effect in 90 days, a time frame negotiated in Vienna to allow Congress, where members have expressed strong distrust of the agreement, to review it. President Obama, who has staked much of his foreign policy ambitions on the Iran pact, has vowed to veto a congressional rejection of the nuclear accord.

The resolution will not completely lift all Council restrictions on Iran. It maintains an arms embargo, and sets up a panel to review the import of sensitive technology on a case-by-case basis.

It also sets up a way to renew sanctions if Iran does not abide by its commitments. In the event of an unresolved dispute over Iran’s enrichment activities, the United Nations sanctions snap back automatically after 30 days. To avoid the sanctions renewal requires a vote of the Council — giving skeptics, namely the United States, an opportunity to veto it.

Mr. Obama’s critics in Congress, including at least two senior Democrats, objected to the Council vote’s taking place before Congress has had a chance to debate it.

They assert that it would signal an intention to dismantle sanctions, contingent on Iran’s abiding by its commitments, before American lawmakers have had time to vote on it.

The United States ambassador, Samantha Power, speaking immediately after the vote, told the Council that sanctions relief would start only when Iran “verifiably” meets its obligations under the deal.

“We have a responsibility to test diplomacy,” she said.

In an effort to assuage critics, including Israel, Ms. Power went on to say that the United States would continue to scrutinize the “instability that Iran fuels beyond its nuclear program.”

She also called on Iran “to immediately release all unjustly detained Americans,” a reference to three Americans of Iranian descent who have been incarcerated in Iran, including one for nearly four years.

The ambassadors from France and Russia both described the resolution as historic, but used their Council pulpit to emphasize their own positions. The French ambassador, François Delattre, said the pact must be carefully monitored. “We will judge by its actions Iran’s willingness to make this agreement a success,” he said.

The Russian envoy, Vitaly I. Churkin, indirectly nudged the United States to do its part. “We expect all countries will quickly adopt to the new conditions,” he said.

quote:

Op maandag 20 juli 2015 13:05 schreef Frikandelbroodje het volgende:

[..]

Right Wing Politicians Furious Over Iran Nuke Deal