Crisis Oekraïne - Rusland #175 Vredesoverleg?

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:21 schreef MotherFoker het volgende:

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Oeh nice, tripverslag als je terugkomt?

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:21 schreef MotherFoker het volgende:

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Oeh nice, tripverslag als je terugkomt?

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ArmedResearch twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 20:13:42 IMAGES: Reportedly the papers of a high ranking #Ukraine officer killed yesterday near #Debaltseve.H/t @ras75ras http://t.co/adgf7DcRH6 reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:16 schreef deelnemer het volgende:

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Je bent toch geen pro-Russische rebel die deelnam van het Minsk overleg. Je gaat me toch niet vertellen dat je daar vrijwillig op vakantie was.

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 19:50 schreef ROADRUNN3R het volgende:

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Ten eerste is het al ontaard in een groot conflict. Wie dat gaat starten? Poetin natuurlijk met zijn draaikont die iedere dag van mening verandert. Afspraken die vandaag worden gemaakt, worden morgen weer van tafel geveegd. Dat is inmiddels toch wel duidelijk?

En dan nu mijn vraag aan de echte experts: Zien jullie ook de parallellen met de conferentie van München?

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:27 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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ArmedResearch twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 20:13:42 IMAGES: Reportedly the papers of a high ranking #Ukraine officer killed yesterday near #Debaltseve.H/t @ras75ras http://t.co/adgf7DcRH6 reageer retweet

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iets meer gehavend dan de documenten die Poroshenko presenteerde...

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:31 schreef J.B. het volgende:

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Och ik vind de voormalige Sovjet-Unie gewoon erg interessant, ik heb t/m Azerbeidzjan inmiddels alle landen bezocht. Wit-Rusland is wel met afstand het meest saaie/lelijke/nietszeggende land tot dusver, zelfs Moldavië was interessanter

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EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 20:28:25 #Lviv battalion commander Ihor Volskyi blasted on fougasse in car on way from Stanytsia Luhanska t #Debaltseve,killed http://t.co/2pN5KmVGle reageer retweet

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Killed Combat "city". Lviv police chief injured
Tuesday, February 10, 2015, 20:53
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The vehicle, which was head of the Interior Ministry in Lviv region Dmitry Zagariya, hit a bomb near Debaltsevo Donetsk region.

This was announced by the agency "Interfax-Ukraine" MP faction "Bloc Poroshenko" Andrew Antonyschak.

"Two cars are traveling from village Lugansk Debaltseve in what is now a battalion of special police" Lions ". Near Debaltsevo car bombs blew up on, died Combat" Lviv "Igor Volsky, Zagariya wounded" - said Antonyschak, who was elected curator battalion them. Kulczycki.

According to him, all injured 4 people.

"Zagariya twice sent an SMS asking for help, is on the scene went commandos. Believe me, every effort is made to pull them out," - said the MP, without specifying to whom Zagariya send SMS.

Meanwhile, the Department of Public Relations Directorate police reported that they could neither confirm this information or refute it. Now because of Zagariya not.

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:34 schreef BarryOSeven het volgende:

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Zit me te bedenken wat er met dat paspoort gebeurt kan zijn waardoor het er zo goor uit ziet. Iemand?

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The number of Russians with negative attitude towards the US and EU has hit its highest in modern history, with 36 percent wanting their country to further distance itself from the West, according to the latest poll.

The research was conducted by the major independent pollster Levada Center in late January and its results were released on Monday.

The number of Russians who claimed their negative attitude to the United States rose to 81 percent compared to 44 percent one year ago. The number of those who perceived the current relations between the two nations as hostile rose from 4 percent to 42 percent in a year.

Some 71 percent of those polled claimed negative attitude to the European Union (up from 34 percent a year ago) and 24 percent said that the EU and Russian Federation were in hostile relations, compared to just 1 percent in January 2014.

Forty percent of citizens want the Russian authorities to improve the relations with Western nations, but 36 percent hold that Russia must further distance itself from the West.

Levada Center’s deputy director, Aleksey Grazhdankin, told reporters that the poll had revealed that the public attitude to Western nations in Russia is now at its worst over the past 25 years. He blamed the situation on the ongoing crisis in Ukraine and on the Western sanctions campaign against Russia. He added that most Russians saw sanctions only as leverage in economic competition.

The two countries claiming the most positive attitudes from Russians were Belarus and China with 81 percent and 80 percent respectively. These figures compared to 83 percent and 77 percent respectively in January last year.

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DrStanchev twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 19:24:11 @Liveuamap Pro Russian protest in Sofia. http://t.co/hpEiyHyYis reageer retweet

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tassagency_en twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 19:56:12 Militia have information Kiev is preparing attack on Donetsk — DPR Defense Ministry http://t.co/kHUJU962E4 reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:57 schreef J.B. het volgende:
De Oekraïense Gryvna is vandaag trouwens compleet ingestort, van 19 Gryvna/euro naar 29 Gryvna/euro.
Bron: http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=UAH

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:58 schreef Houtenbeen het volgende:

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RT_com twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 20:31:21 'US seeks to start war in Europe' - Marine Le Pen http://t.co/odVxEYcm4M http://t.co/HDdIz6yWgL reageer retweet

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US Senator John McCain is calling on the Obama administration to send weapons to Ukraine, thereby turning up the thermostat in a country where an estimated 50,000 civilians and soldiers have already perished.

Appearing as a guest on the Hannity show, host Sean Hannity opened the diabolical dialogue with McCain by casually rewriting modern history, possibly in anticipation of another Hollywood blockbuster.

Hannity: “I know [President Barack Obama] has met with Chancellor Merkel, but he seems reluctant and resistant [to deliver weapons] even though Crimea and the Ukraine were pretty much annexed by Putin to do anything to support [Kiev]. Why?”

The more I am forced to watch Fox News, the more I believe the pause/rewind button was invented so that viewers can make sure they heard the hyperbole correctly.

Did Hannity, a political opinionator for Fox News, actually suggest that Putin “pretty much annexed” Crimea and Ukraine? No, he didn’t suggest it, he actually said it, and we can be sure McCain will not correct him on the matter. Indeed, the old warhorse will place a cherry and some whip cream on top of Hannity’s heaping mound of what is generally known in the business as ‘bullsh*t.’

McCain: “Five thousand Ukrainians have been murdered. The first time since the end of World War II that one country has dismembered a nation in Europe and to not give them weapons to defend themselves will go down as one of the shameful chapters of American history, and the Chancellor of Germany and the President of France don’t surprise me, but they should be ashamed too.”

Pause-Rewind-Replay-Scream.

First, McCain is being conveniently conservative with the number of fatalities in Ukraine. Just this week, a source in German intelligence told Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung that the real number of deaths in the Ukrainian civil war was about 50,000 – a number 10-times higher than that put forward by McCain and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.

Is McCain deliberately deflating the Ukrainian death toll so as not to alarm the European Union as to the true nature of the ticking time bomb on their doorstep? Is Poroshenko being disingenuous about death and destruction in order to secure more lethal means for attacking East Ukraine? Judging by his performance at the Munich Security Conference, where he flashed some “Russian soldiers’ passports” as some sort of proof of a full-blown Russian invasion of Ukraine, anything is possible.

Second [Hollywood script writers, please pay attention], Russia did not dismember Ukraine. Kiev seems quite capable of performing that feat without any outside assistance. Despite the provocative assertion that Russia “seized” Crimea, the reality would put American moviegoers to sleep in their seats.

About one month after Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich fled the Ukrainian capital Kiev, not looking back till he reached Russia, the people of Crimea decided to hold a referendum on whether or not to become part of the Russian Federation. Ninety-six percent of the residents voted in favor of the decision, and one year later, according to a poll, they remain very satisfied with their status.

Had McCain wanted to show a real example of a European country being physically dismembered, he could have pointed with much more honesty to the now-extinct Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, which was obliterated by 78 days of non-stop NATO bombings on the capital Belgrade (March 24, 1999 to June 10, 1999). The attack was never green-lighted by the UN and was the first time that NATO used force against a sovereign nation that posed no threat to members of the alliance.

Or he could have just as easily pointed to the string of serial invasions that have been carried out with impunity by the United States across the Middle East, where imported American weapons are falling into the hands of allies and enemies alike, from Syrian rebels with known links to al-Qaeda, to the newest bogeyman on the block, the Islamic State.

But that would have required an element not traditionally found in US politicians, especially when the subject is Russia, known as truth.

In any event, I can’t help wondering where we’d be now in Ukraine had John McCain won the White House against Barack Obama back in 2008. Perhaps that’s a question the people of Europe had better ask themselves, especially as Obama’s presidency winds down.

Clearly, there are some individuals in Washington who have no apparent qualms with parts of Europe going down in flames, so long as it strengthens American interests.

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jgmariner twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 21:01:57 Destruction in #Luhansk. #Ukraine http://t.co/oUKsZJPdsC reageer retweet

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Steiner1776 twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 18:20:24 #NAF volunteers fighting against #Ukraine regime near #Debaltsevo http://t.co/o43Dq6R7Xo reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 21:09 schreef reza1 het volgende:

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Steiner1776 twitterde op dinsdag 10-02-2015 om 18:20:24 #NAF volunteers fighting against #Ukraine regime near #Debaltsevo http://t.co/o43Dq6R7Xo reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 februari 2015 20:59 schreef DeJori het volgende:

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-RT
-Le Pen

Goeie combo.