[Centraal] Irak en IS #113

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Op dinsdag 25 november 2014 23:20 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Volgens mij is al bewezen dat in Irak er een gelegenheidscoalitie is tussen enerzijds baathisten en anderzijds ISIS bijv. Ik denk niet dat een meerderheid van een grote stad als Mosul ideologische salafisten zijn. Maar goed, ik kan het fout hebben natuurlijk.

En ach ja...wat moet moet toch?

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 13:51 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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ISIS acht Raqqa schijnbaar beter verdedigbaar dan Mosul. An sich niet gek, de Peshmerga nadert Mosul stukje bij beetje en klemmen de stad van 3 kanten in. Alleen het zuiden is straks nog een uitweg voor ISIS.

In Raqqa is totaal geen dreiging op het moment, behalve vanuit de lucht dan.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 14:05 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:
En jij denkt dat al die salafis/wahabies die nu in Mosul verkeren, vrijwillig weggaan wanneer ISIS wordt afgezwakt?

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Die gaan boobytraps plannen, menselijke schilden gebruiken, zich verschuilen enz. Daar doelde ik op.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 15:08 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Ahja zo, maar om daarvoor nu die gevangen te gaan evacueren........

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 17:20 schreef Peunage het volgende:

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Die kunnen ze later gebruiken om dingen te eisen.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 17:20 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Moeite doen om gevangenen.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 17:24 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Losgeld, ruilen, etc.

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salar_dd twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 17:17:35 bodies of #ISIS yesterday near #Mosul Dam#البيشمركة ترد هجوم #داعش ع #سد_الموصل وتقتل 80 ارهابي وتعطيب 13 سيارة#YPG http://t.co/buNicTGdOl reageer retweet

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KirkukNewsDesk twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 05:24:20 Heavy fighting between #ISIS terrorists & #peshmerga/HPG joint forces in Tal al Ward, has been ongoing nonstop for nearly 9.5 hours. #Kirkuk reageer retweet

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SeniorB twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 06:55:23 Now: Heavy clashes between #Peshmarga and #ISIS militants in #TalWard district southern #Kirkuk . reageer retweet

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CarthaBylone twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 17:03:05 #Video: Ongoing fight in #Kirkuk #Iraq. #ISIS #Peshmerga #ISIL #IS 26/11/2014https://t.co/vsEo7JeNUO reageer retweet

شه‌ڕی ته‌ل وه‌رد 26-11- 2014

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 17:26 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
Sow die jihadi's krijgen zeker niet veel te vreten, kijk eens naar die uitgemergelde lichamen (waarschuwing: link in de tweet bevat dode baardapen)

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salar_dd twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 17:17:35 bodies of #ISIS yesterday near #Mosul Dam#البيشمركة ترد هجوم #داعش ع #سد_الموصل وتقتل 80 ارهابي وتعطيب 13 سيارة#YPG http://t.co/buNicTGdOl reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 25 november 2014 19:24 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Peunage spreekt vanuit emotie. Dat snap ik wel als langer dan 10 jaar dagelijks tientallen sjieten worden opgeblazen door heel Irak door crazy-ass takfiries. Anderzijds heb jij gelijk. Sjitische milities zijn eng sektarisch en gaan ook vaak genoeg hun boekje ver te buiten. En dat rapporteert een groep als Amnesty van beide kanten. Tenminste nog iemand die zonder emotie zaken gewoon opschrijft of het nou van de ene of andere partij is die ze begaan.

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Dit klopt. De sjitische milities gesteund door de Iraakse centrale regering (en Iran) zullen langzaamaan gebieden terug veroveren. Anderzijds spelen ze soennitisch extremisme in de kaart als ze hun boekje te buiten gaan. En dat doen ze zeker hier en daar. Een blijvende oplossing gaat er sowieso niet komen, daarvoor is er te veel gebeurt en Irak is helemaal niet één land en/of volk. Het is beter dat eerder te erkennen dan daar een droombeeld te streven wat gebaseerd is op een grote leugen.

Ze zouden gewoon een soennitische Kadyrov in Irak moeten vinden die als ie op bepaalde punten zich redelijk naar Bagdad schikt met een vrije hand de soennitisch Iraakse provincies naar zijn wensen mag inrichten en schoonmaken van ISIS-beestjes. In ruil daarvoor krijgt ie dan ook vrij veel de ruimte. Een federaal model ofzo.

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Op dinsdag 25 november 2014 20:29 schreef Peunage het volgende:

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Nogmaals, actie-reactie. Dat sjiieten zich af en toe misdragen is een reactie op de massale slachtingen die al hebben plaatsgevonden. Je kunt je natuurlijk heel druk gaan maken om dat soort dingen, maar feit is dat dat niet op dezelfde schaal gebeurt als aanvallen tegen sjiieten. En die vergelijking is misschien niet leuk om te horen, maar er is geen ontkomen aan. Dat zijn gewoon de feiten.

Niemand weet wat de hervormingen of verzoeningen die de soennieten precies willen. Allemaal vage dingen, niks concreets. Wat willen ze nu precies? Wat is hun plan voor de lange termijn? Want je kunt niet steeds weer aan terrorisme gaan doen als de politiek je niet helemaal bevalt.

En dat sjiitische milities nu Soennitische gebieden moeten bevrijden zegt meer over de mensen in die gebieden, dan over de milities. Ze vragen nu zelf om de hulp van het leger en de milities.

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Je keurt dat misschien niet goed, maar je lijkt niet te begrijpen dat op een bepaald moment het geduld van mensen op is. En dan komt hier een reactie op. Vervelend dat daar onschuldige mensen bij om komen, maar die reactie komt niet uit het niets.

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rConflictNews twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 20:14:55 Kirkuk today, Heavy clashes between Peshmerga and #ISIS via @GhostByTheDoor http://t.co/IsRfKos2G2 reageer retweet

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rConflictNews twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 20:37:59 "The secular laws are under my foot" #ISIS billboard in Ninevehhttp://t.co/lcOEfqcOfX reageer retweet

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EnglishBasNews twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 21:15:09 #IslamicState Attacks #Kirkuk Gas Pipelineshttp://t.co/hFCU69SjbF#TwitterKurds #ISIS #ISIL #Iraq #Kurds #Kurdistan http://t.co/ZSTiN9rGzp reageer retweet

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The A-10 fighter jet will launch airstrikes against the Islamic State

_{November 26 at 2:47 PM}



The A-10 Thunderbolt II, a fighter jet beloved by U.S. ground troops and locked in a fierce budget battle in Washington, has been added to the arsenal the United States is using to target Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria, Air Force officials said.

The planes arrived at an undisclosed base in the region between Nov. 17 and Nov. 21, and will support Operation Inherent Resolve – the mission against the Islamic State – and other operations in the region, Air Force officials said. They will be part of the 332nd Air Expeditionary Group, which was reactivated Nov. 16. The unit has a long history of combat operations, and worked from an air base in southwest Asia in 2011 to provide support to U.S. troops in Iraq as the last convoys left the country, military officials said.

The deployment comes during a political fight on Capitol Hill and in the Pentagon about whether the A-10, nicknamed the Warthog, should be retired. Senior defense officials have said they want to get rid of the service’s remaining 283 A-10s to save $3.7 billion over five years, but critics, including Sen. John McCain, (R-Ariz.), said that will rob the military of an aircraft that is uniquely suited to target insurgents in ground wars.

The A-10s are with the 163rd Expeditionary Fighter Squadron, and were used for close-air support operations in Afghanistan previously, Air Force officials said. The unit is with the Indiana Air National Guard.

The plane is well suited for the mission in Iraq and Syria, and a favorite of ground troops for the help it provides. Unlike some of the Pentagon’s newer fighter jets, the A-10 flies slowly, giving pilots more time to identify targets on the ground. The aircraft has an armored belly to protect pilots from ground fire, and can carry a 30mm Gatling gun cannon and a variety of bombs, missiles and rockets. The plane has been in the Air Force since the 1970s and flown in combat missions since the 1990s.

Air Force officials have said that other planes, including the new F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, already are capable of providing close air support to troops on the ground. If the A-10 isn’t retired, it also could result in more delays to the fielding of the F-35.

Air Force officials said that the A-10s will be flying out of a base in southwest Asia. As Stars and Stripes has pointed out, the service has used that phrase to describe a variety of bases. Airstrikes in Iraq and Syria have been carried out from a variety of locations in the Persian Gulf, including Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, Ali al Salem Air Base in Kuwait and al Dhafra Air Base in the United Arab Emirates.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:04 schreef Frikandelbroodje het volgende:
En weer faal je om in te gaan op het punt dat ik hier maak. Als je wilt dat de soennitische gebieden worden bevrijd heb je de medewerking van de soennieten nodig. En dat gaat niet werken als je milities in je gelederen hebt die hun onschuldige families afslachten. En dat is, zoals je zelf mooi zegt, niet leuk om te horen en begrijpelijk, maar er is geen ontkomen aan.

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EjmAlrai twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 09:20:42 #Peshmerga is preparing with the U.S led coalition to attack #sinjar and Talafar to recover it form #IslamicState. 1/ reageer retweet

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Is the formation of a united Kurdish army on the horizon?

_{Published Wednesday, November 26, 2014}

In a two-part series, Al-Akhbar English examines the mobilization and alliances, as well as challenges, between various Kurdish factions as they confront the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). The following is part one of the series, in which context behind the developments and changes within the Kurdish ranks are explored. The second part, an interview with Havel Kani, a PKK field commander based at the outskirts of the Iraqi city of Kirkuk, will be published on Thursday, November 27.

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 14:16 schreef Montana_ir het volgende:
Isis nadert Bagdad.

داعش تصل الى بغداد

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Rare Alliance Spurs Hope in Battle Against Islamic State
Sunnis, Shiites in Iraqi City of Abu Ghraib Find Common Cause Against Extremist Group, Residents Say



ABU GHRAIB, Iraq—Children walked around in unruly clusters here, wearing navy blue-and-white uniforms following the start late last month of a school year delayed by an Iraq once again at war.

Shoppers lingered to buy vegetables and live chickens at stalls at a busy public square, as a dozen uniformed Iraqi soldiers stationed at the entrance of the open-air market looked on.

For a city said to be under mortal threat from the extremists of Islamic State, there was no sign of fear or panic, owing to what residents and officials say is an emerging alliance in Abu Ghraib between Sunni Muslim tribal leaders, Shiite-controlled government forces and Shiite militia.

In a country torn by Sunni-Shiite antagonism, such cooperation is rare. For the Iraqi government, though, the partnership forged in Abu Ghraib provides a glimmer of optimism as its reeling security forces attempt to regroup and retake territory seized by Islamic State.

The apocalyptic, puritanical group has flourished with the toleration and support of Sunnis aggrieved over what they view as their loss of power at the hands of the Shiite-dominated administration in Baghdad.

But by taking steps immediately to remove sources of Sunni-Shiite friction on Abu Ghraib’s streets and avoid resorting to force, the Baghdad government and Abu Ghraib’s residents have coalesced — at least for now — into an effective barrier to further advances by Islamic State on Baghdad, 25 miles to the east.

“We have controlled the situation in a political way,” said Brig. Gen. Saad Maan, an official in the capital’s operation command center. “Our first mission is to protect Baghdad and that begins with the outskirts.”


For both sides, control of Abu Ghraib represents a high-stakes game. For the rebels, who have sought since May to establish a foothold in the city, it is a potential staging ground to launch attacks on the nearby capital. For Iraq’s security forces, Abu Ghraib is the linchpin of a buffer zone to protect Baghdad’s western flank from further encroachment by Islamic State forces, which have gained control of most of Anbar Province where it’s located.

The battle for Abu Ghraib was joined in June, when Islamic State swept south toward Baghdad after capturing the northern city of Mosul. Answering a call to arms by political and religious leaders, powerful pro-Iranian Shiite militias converged on Abu Ghraib to support government forces and help defend the city, which was already being targeted with hit-and-run attacks.

The government faced a sharp disadvantage from the start. Following the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 that deposed Saddam Hussein, Abu Ghraib was the focus of a Sunni-led rebellion against foreign troops and the post-Hussein administration they installed.

With its hard-core Sunni constituency, it became a dependable base for Islamic State’s ideological forerunner, al Qaeda, to launch attacks in Baghdad. Its distinction as a crucible of Sunni anger was solidified with the publication in 2003 of photos showing U.S. Army guards abusing and torturing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison.

The presence in Abu Ghraib’s streets of Shiite militias immediately caused friction and threatened to transform the city into fertile ground for Islamic State to take root, according to Talal Al-Zubaee, a Sunni member of parliament from Abu Ghraib. Sunnis complained they were harassed and sometimes detained by militia members. Ahmed Younis, 23, said the Shiite fighters often poured into his stationery shop in the city’s Khan Bari market and stole cellphone chargers and mobile phone cards at gunpoint.

When Mr. Younis and other business owners asked local Iraqi military commanders for help, to their surprise their plea wasn’t greeted with a shrug of indifference or impotence.

“Almost overnight the militias disappeared from the market and the army became visible,” recalled Mr. Younis, as students crowded his shop to buy school supplies.

Critical to the success of the operation was a policy of zero tolerance for any graft and intimidation by members of the joint army-militia force, said a senior army officer in Abu Ghraib. “We assured people that the army would not allow any wrongdoing in the area, either by security forces or militias,” he said.

To reduce friction, Shiite militiamen were barred from policing inside Abu Ghraib and shifted from manning checkpoints inside the city to patrolling the highways that ring it, the officer said.

The support of powerful Sunni tribal leaders also was enlisted. U.S. and Iraqi officials deem the backing of these leaders necessary if the government is to have any success holding off Islamic State, not only in Abu Ghraib but elsewhere in Iraq.

“The new Abu Ghraib is not like the old Abu Ghraib,” said Saif al-Jumaili, a tribal leader. “The army changed the way it deals with people and people responded and changed the way they behave towards the army. We trust each other now.”

While Sunni-Shiite suspicion is far from disappearing, opposition in Abu Ghraib to Islamic State has galvanized the rare cooperation. The success of Islamic State, beginning with its lightning advance in June, has sobered residents of the city and other Iraqis alike to the costs of their sectarian rancor. “It was a hard lesson for us as Iraqi people,” Brig. Gen. Maan said.

To many Sunnis here, the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad and the Shiite militias deployed to their city are a lesser evil than what they hear depicted in the testimony of Iraqis who have fled areas of the country controlled by Islamic State, Mr. al-Jumaili said.

“Do you believe that people would trade safety and security for the stupidity and violence of Islamic State?” he said.

Islamic State fighters continue to threaten Abu Ghraib’s western outskirts with mortar fire, security officials said, and Fallujah, which borders the city on the west, is firmly under the extremists’ control. But residents of Abu Ghraib say at least in this fight, they are on the side of the Baghdad government.

Saddam Hamza, a 40-year-old partner in a construction firm, said work on a housing development in Garma, the district closest to the Falluja border, was stopped for two months because of heavy fighting. As the military repelled the insurgency, Mr. Hamza offered his construction equipment to help the Iraqi military dig trenches near the front line as the soldiers pushed Islamic State fighters deeper into Fallujah.

Mr. Hamza said he cooperated out of a renewed confidence in security forces and a deep desire to maintain stability in his city.

“We experienced chaos here for years,” he said. “All we want is order and that isn’t going to come from fighting against the army. We have to work with them.”

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