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twitter:mennohulshof twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 21:54:26 De een zegt dat het oekrainse leger het vliegveld van #lugansk heeft bereikt en dat er spec ops in de stad geland zijn... #oekraine reageer retweet
De een zegt dat het oekrainse leger het vliegveld van twitter:mennohulshof twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 21:55:36 Daarintegen zegt de ander dat het vliegveld van #lugansk in de handen is vam #NAF en da die de aanval in zetten tegen kiev forces. #oekraine reageer retweet
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Dit valt niet goed in Oekraine.
twitter:tristanmasat twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 21:24:02 The company you keep. Difficult to imagine a way for Merkel to show more contempt for people in #Ukraine #GER http://t.co/fQe1ifIJD6 reageer retweet
The company you keep. Difficult to imagine a way for Merkel to show more contempt for people in 
twitter:Manio_12 twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 21:27:31 @lennutrajektoor no comments ... shame !!!! http://t.co/JIuBDjXlWG reageer retweet
@lennutrajektoor no comments ... shame !!!! 
twitter:AndrijUKR twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 20:23:23 @MiddleEast_BRK ATO troops liberated South Luhansk reageer retweet
@MiddleEast_BRK ATO troops liberated South Luhansk twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 21:56:28 #BreakingNews Russians strengthened their assault on #Luhansk #airport and extremely heavy fighting is going on. reageer retweet
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Nine people were killed and six others injured in a shooting by the Ukrainian army near Trudovskaya coal mine in Donetsk on Saturday, the city council said in a statement on its website, adding that previous reports of 12 people killed are wrong. The city's administrators expressed their condolences to the victims' families and said the city would pay for the funerals.
There have been reports of more shooting in Donetsk over the weekend, but the city's utilities and public transport are said to be functioning as normal.
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
There have been reports of more shooting in Donetsk over the weekend, but the city's utilities and public transport are said to be functioning as normal.
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
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quote:Op zondag 13 juli 2014 22:19 schreef SadPanda het volgende:
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
quote:Ukrainian troops fired on the town of Krasnogorovka in the Donetsk region on Sunday, according to the official Twitter account for the People’s Republic of Donetsk. A school and multiple apartment blocks were damaged and “there were many casualties".
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twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 23:19:19 #BreakingReports The Ukrainian army lifted the siege of #Luhansk airport and attacks Russian positions throughout the city reageer retweet
twitter:lennutrajektoor twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 23:14:39 Confirmed - #Luhansk airport is in full #ATO control, blockade lifted, reinforcements there. Terrorists get killed all over Luhansk. reageer retweet
Confirmed - twitter:JoshMainka twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 23:35:20 Mapping Ukrainian relief of #Luhansk airport http://t.co/LronVLjZGT reageer retweet
Mapping Ukrainian relief of 
twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 00:12:06 #BREAKINGNEWS 13 Ukrainian national guard troops killed TODAY, 130(!!!!!!!!!!) injured.#RussiaInvadesUkraine reageer retweet
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Het vliegveld van Lugansk is in handen van de Nationale Garde van Oekraine en wordt al maanden belegerd door de rebellen
Oekraine claimt dat de belegering is doorbroken en het vliegveld ontzet.
Oekraine claimt dat de belegering is doorbroken en het vliegveld ontzet.
De rebellen beweren dat ze het vliegveld hebben veroverd.quote:Ukrainian military unblock Luhansk airport
Ukrainian servicemen have reached the Luhansk airport with fighting and freed it from militants, according to the official Facebook page of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.
"The ATO [anti-terrorist operation] headquarters has just reported to President Petro Poroshenko that Ukrainian servicemen have reached the Luhansk airport with fighting.
quote:Militia fighters of Lugansk People’s Republic take Lugansk airport
LUGANSK, July 14,/ITAR-TASS/.
The people’s militia fighters of the self-proclaimed Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR) have taken Lugansk airport, the Novorossia news agency reported on Sunday.
“Heavy shelling is underway. Aviation and sabotage-reconnaissance groups are used. The airport is ours. People’s militia assault convoys develop an offensive towards the city of Schastye,” it said.
According to Novorossia, the Ukrainian military started two tank attacks - in the north, in the area of Metallist (Lugansk suburb) and in the south. “Due to the lack of co-ordination, the southern group only now at about 23:30 (00:30 MSK) came to the Roskoshnoye settlement (15 kilometres from the airport),” the agency’s military communiqu says. The militia fighters use artillery to counter the attack.
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There is fire fighting in the area of the Uralo-Kavkaz, Porechye and Goncharovka settlements, “the Ukranian army is trying to cut off Krasnodon from the border.” [...] “Local residents report that the settlement has been heavily destroyed by artillery fire,” the agency says.
Combat actions continue in the area of Saur-Mogila, Marinovka and Torez (Dosnetsk region)
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According to Novorossia reports, the Ukrainian armed forces “sent reinforcement” to the Zelenopolye settlement “in order to unblock the survivors.” A clash with the Ukrainian military was underway at the Krasny Partizan checkpoint.
quote:ATO forces destroy militants' column near Zelenopillia
KYIV, July 14 /Ukrinform/.
The anti-terrorist operation (ATO) forces destroyed a column of terrorists and two trucks with weapons near Zelenopillia in Luhansk region, head of the Center for Military-Political Studies Dmytro Tymchuk wrote on his Facebook page.
"Near the settlement of Zelenopillia, the ATO forces destroyed a column of terrorists. In addition to manpower, two trucks with weapons were destroyed. No victims among the ATO soldiers," Tymchuk wrote.
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Ze geven zelf aan verliezen te lijden:
quote:Minstens dertig Oekraense opstandelingen gedood
In het oosten van Oekrane zijn zeker dertig opstandelingen omgekomen door artilleriebeschietingen door het regeringsleger.
De slachtoffers vielen in de plaats Alexandrovka in de regio Loehansk, maakte een woordvoerder van de pro-Russische rebellen bekend.
De gevechten tussen het regeringsleger en de separatisten gingen maandag door.
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According to Strelkov, Cossacks left their ranks after leaving of Kramatorsk (it occurred on July 5).
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twitter:StateOfUkraine twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 19:59:13 Russian mil cmdr Strelkov: 'Babay' & fellow Cossacks lack military discipline and deserted (pro) Russian forces http://t.co/fxeWRFSbJ3 reageer retweet
Russian mil cmdr Strelkov: 'Babay' & fellow Cossacks lack military discipline and deserted (pro) Russian forces twitter:StateOfUkraine twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 07:03:08 Tymchuk: Ukrainian forces have broken the siege of #Luhansk #Ukraine airport where UA forces could previously only get supplies via air. reageer retweet
twitter:EuromaidanPR twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 07:57:49 #ATO forces unblocked #Lugansk airport. Later terrorists attacked the airport with Grad, #Tymchuk FB |EMPR reageer retweet
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De tanks lijken T-72's te zijn, niet het allernieuwste zoals de Russische T-90's, maar wel gelijkwaardig aan die van het Oekranse leger.
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AFP PHOTO / ALEXANDER KHUDOTEPLY
A pro-Russian militant stands guard as people hold flags of "New Russia" (Novorossiya) during a rally on Lenin Square in Donetsk on July 13, 2014, in support of the self-proclaimed "Donetsk People's Republic".
AFP PHOTO / ALEXANDER KHUDOTEPLY
A pro-Russian militant stands guard as people hold flags of "New Russia" (Novorossiya) during a rally on Lenin Square in Donetsk on July 13, 2014, in support of the self-proclaimed "Donetsk People's Republic".
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quote:Avakov urges Maidan 'patriots' to go to front instead of parasitizing in central Kyiv
Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov has said that police have information about those "who, under the guise of Maidan, commit unlawful actions," and vowed a due response.
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twitter:StateOfUkraine twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 08:43:52 Tymchuk: there's no question that Russia has invaded E #Ukraine; heavy weapons are now manned by reg Russian troops https://t.co/KEP7E7RdhE reageer retweet
quote:Poroshenko to show new proof of Russian military involvement on July 14
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on July 14 is expected to show documented proof of further Russian involvement in the illegal supply of military equipment across the Russian-Ukrainian border.
A convoy of about 100 armored vehicles entered Ukraine from Russia on July 13, according to Defense Ministry spokesperson Andriy Lysenko. He added that Ukrainian forces conducted five air strikes against the transport convoy and against Kremlin-backed bases in eastern Ukraine.
The escalation by Russia sent worrying signals throughout Ukraine’s defense and intelligence community.
“We have facts and proof that will show tomorrow (on July 14) to the international community,” stated deputy presidential chief of staff Valeriy Chalyi on Inter television.
twitter:StateOfUkraine twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 09:58:42 Tymchuk+others: (pro) RU forces in #Donbas are shelling Russian territory from #Ukraine as part of #Russia's PR campaign against the West reageer retweet
quote:Ukraine denies claims its forces shelled Russian territory
The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry has released a statement on Sunday saying, citing forces involved in the counterterrorism operation, that Ukrainian servicemen did not deliver fire in the locality, mentioned by the Russian Foreign Ministry.
twitter:StateOfUkraine twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 08:09:47 Kremlin news agency: #Russia is considering using airstrikes against #Ukraine http://t.co/ydQ1TrynAF reageer retweet
twitter:paulgypteau twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 08:43:15 Kommersant's front page this morning: Russia doesn't rule out "selective" strikes on #Ukraine http://t.co/90xMX0G89W reageer retweet
Kommersant's front page this morning: Russia doesn't rule out "selective" strikes on 
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twitter:EuromaidanPR twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 11:01:09 #Tymchuk: #Russia is preparing to invade the territory of #Donbas, #Ukraine with its special forces at July 15,2014 http://t.co/Lrn7Mgv616 reageer retweet
twitter:StateOfUkraine twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 10:24:09 Live Tymchuk press conference about situation in east #Ukraine: http://t.co/TPzymlcPCN reageer retweet
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Ahum, luchthaven / vliegveldquote:
Maar ook te interpreteren als het luchtveld in de richting van het vliegveld. Of het luchtveld in de zin van gebakken lucht (gebakken door het vuur eronder), omdat beide partijen claimen het vliegveld in handen te hebben.
twitter:Catherina_News twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 10:41:39 TT @n_tropeshko: Tired of airport mess. Asked the militia, it said it's ours. Asked Strelkov, he said it's not. Okay, I will believe and wait reageer retweet
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quote:Kiev: Rusland mengt zich in strijd
Toegevoegd: maandag 14 jul 2014, 13:00
De Oekraense regering beschuldigt Rusland ervan dat het zich mengt in de strijd in Oost-Oekrane. President Porosjenko zegt dat Russische officieren betrokken zijn bij aanvallen van separatisten op het Oekraense leger.
Ook hebben de separatisten volgens Porosjenko het afgelopen weekend gebruik gemaakt van een nieuw Russisch raketsysteem. Hij denkt dat de Oekraense strijdkrachten daarom hun strategie moeten bijstellen.
Een woordvoerder van het Oekraense leger zegt dat Rusland bezig is met een grote troepenopbouw aan de grens. Ook vechten volgens hem Russische huurlingen mee met de separatisten. Ze zouden grensposten bestoken om zo wapens en voertuigen vanuit Rusland naar Oekrane te kunnen brengen.
Escalatie
"De gebeurtenissen van de afgelopen dagen laten zien dat Rusland een weg van escalatie is ingeslagen", zegt de Oekraense legerwoordvoerder. Hij zegt dat de separatisten verantwoordelijk zijn voor de mortierinslag in een woonwijk aan de Russische kant van de grens. Daarbij kwam het afgelopen weekend een Rus om het leven.
Rusland heeft woedend op het incident gereageerd en stelt het Oekraense leger daarvoor verantwoordelijk. Maar volgens de legerwoordvoerder is die beschuldiging nergens op gebaseerd. Hij zegt dat de separatisten voortdurend mortiergranaten richting Rusland afvuren.
Luchtaanvallen
Het Russische persbureau Ria Novosti meldde eerder vanochtend dat het Kremlin overweegt beperkte, gerichte luchtaanvallen uit te voeren op Oekraense doelen. Een anonieme bron zegt dat grootschalige inzet van grondtroepen is uitgesloten.
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twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 12:40:32 Footage claims to show entire #Ukrainian_army convoy destroyed near #Luhansk. http://t.co/pDwOuXqrAv reageer retweet
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Hopelijk word kiev letterlijk een asvalt-zee.
Vraag yvonne maar hoe tof ik ben, die gaf mij er ooit een tagje voor.
Lugansktwitter:NoahSneider twitterde op zondag 13-07-2014 om 13:02:42 Interesting that many Ukr users retweet musings abt Russ invasion, but not pics of Ukr attacks on civilians - & vice versa with Russ users reageer retweet
Interesting that many Ukr users retweet musings abt Russ invasion, but not pics of Ukr attacks on civilians - & vice versa with Russ users RT Ruptly uit Lugansk, beelden van slachtoffers / graphic
twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 12:45:33 #Breaking #Kremlin: "Reports that Russia is considering the possibility of surgical strikes are nonsense, do not correspond to reality." reageer retweet
twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 13:20:21 #BREAKINGFOOTAGE Ukrainian air force Antonov crashing after hit by AA weapon system. https://t.co/leIntcQj5Z http://t.co/oKjrJBbQc9 reageer retweet
twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 13:41:22 #BREAKINGNEWS Ukraine confirms, an Antonov AN-26 was shot down in eastern #Luhansk oblast. reageer retweet
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DMITRY TYMCHUK: A couple of words about current events in Eastern Ukraine
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Ukrainian Forces Retake Several Villages Around Lugansk
UNIAN reports that the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence has announced the retaking by Ukrainian forces of several villages on the outskirts of Lugansk, where government forces are making a concerted push against separatist fighters.
They report (translated by The Interpreter):
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UNIAN reports that the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence has announced the retaking by Ukrainian forces of several villages on the outskirts of Lugansk, where government forces are making a concerted push against separatist fighters.
They report (translated by The Interpreter):
quote:The situation is most acute in the cities of Donetsk, Lugansk, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk and Antratsyt. In these settlements the militants are preparing captured state administration buildings as fortified positions. Central state television stations and radio channels have been blocked in the cities, but Russian television channels, which do not provide an objective view of the actions of ATO troops during the liberation of the cities of the Donetsk region from terrorists, are being broadcast.
The militants are continuing to intimidate the local population. There are documented cases of looting and the seizure of property and commercial vehicles, which raises tensions amongst the local residents.
Thanks to the conduction of active military operations by the armed forces and other security bodies engaged in the ATO, the settlements of Metalist, Aleksandrovsk, Beloye and Roskoshnoye have been liberated from the militants and the blockade around Lugansk Airport has been lifted.
Due to the successful offensive operations by the ATO forces in the Donetsk area, some of the militants are trying to leave the city while dressed in civilian clothes in cars stolen from citizens.
Over the last 24 hours illegal armed groups have carried out 5 shellings on checkpoints and the positions of units of the armed forces. From around 00:23-00:30 [21:23-30 GMT] an attack was made with small arms on a checkpoint near the village of Staraya Krasnyanka. Ukrainian soldiers opened fire in response.
At around 3:00 [00:00 GMT] the terrorists fired on Lugansk Airport with Grad rocket launchers from the direction of the suburb of Ostraya Mogila.
There was also an unsuccessful attempt made by the militants to break through a checkpoint near Zelenopolye at around 23:00 [20:00 GMT]. 2 cars carrying militants were destroyed by ATO forces during the battle. There were no losses among the members of the armed forces.
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Bericht van dat neergehaalde vliegtuig:
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Hoeveel vliegtuigen zijn er al niet neergehaald in Oost-Oekrane, en dan nog blijven proberen.quote:Separatisten halen vliegtuig neer
Toegevoegd: maandag 14 jul 2014, 14:15
Pro-Russische separatisten zeggen dat ze een militair transportvliegtuig hebben neergehaald. Dat zou zijn gebeurd bij Izvaryne aan de Russische grens, ongeveer 50 kilometer van het separatistenbolwerk Loegansk, meldt het persbureau Interfax-Ukraine.
Het Oekraense leger bevestigt dat een Antonov-26 wordt vermist, mogelijk door vijandelijk vuur. Het contact met het transportvliegtuig viel weg toen het boven de regio Loegansk vloog. Er zouden ongeveer twintig mensen aan boord zijn geweest.
Parachutes
Russische media melden dat ooggetuigen hebben gezien dat verschillende mensen met parachutes uit het toestel zijn gesprongen.
De strijd tussen het Oekraense leger en de separatisten is het afgelopen weekend hoog opgelaaid. President Porosjenko beschuldigt Moskou ervan dat het de separatisten actief steunt met mensen en materieel.
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Volgens Oekraine vier:quote:Op maandag 14 juli 2014 14:32 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
Bericht van dat neergehaalde vliegtuig:
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Hoeveel vliegtuigen zijn er al niet neergehaald in Oost-Oekrane, en dan nog blijven proberen.
Twee helikopters in Slaviansk,
Een groot transportvliegtuig bij het landen op het vliegveld van Lugansk
En nu een kleiner transportvliegtuig.
Volgens de rebellen halen ze vrijwel dagelijks vliegtuigen neer. De laatste tijd de ene na de andere SU25 straaljager. Maar dat is niet geloofwaardig.
quote:Er zouden ongeveer twintig mensen aan boord zijn geweest.
NSDC considers two versions of the destruction of the AN-26 - information centertwitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 17:05:56 #BREAKINGNEWS #UKRAINE EITHER RUSSIAN ARMY JET OR RUSSIAN ARMY SURFACE-TO-AIR-MISSILE DOWNED OUR AN-26. https://t.co/8nXTZxXFyj reageer retweet
National Defence Council of Ukraine considers two versions of the destruction of the AN-26 aircraft was shot down by a Russian missile system or the plane P USSIA. This was announced today during a briefing, said the speaker NSDC Andrei Lysenko, the correspondent of RBC-Ukraine .
"We consider two versions: the shot was taken from the modern ground missile and gun complex" Carapace "or homing missile" X 24 "air-to-air with a Russian aircraft that could be flown from the airfield Millerovo" - said Lysenko.
He noted that none of MANPADS, which is armed terrorists can not hit the plane at such a height.
"Therefore, the plane was shot down over the powerful weapon that was used probably from the territory of Russian missiles, "- said Lysenko.
According to him all the 8 people who were on board survived.
twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 14-07-2014 om 17:50:21 #Update8 people were on board the An-26 6 used parachutes and survived 2 probably died in the crash. Militants claim, they captured 4 reageer retweet
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Valeriya Ilyinichna Novodvorskaya was a liberal, Russian politician, Soviet dissident, the founder and the chairwoman of the "Democratic Union" party, and a member of the editorial board of The New Times.
On 12 July, 2014 Valeriya Novodvorskaya died of septic shock.
Text of her last appeal to Ukrainians in Donbas is the following:
THE LAST STATEMENT OF RUSSIAN ACTIVISTS VALERIA NOVODVORSKAYA TO UKRAINIANS OF DONBASS & SEPARATISTS, MILITIAS, TERRORISTS
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Dit is een representatieve video van de (pro)Russische propaganda. De beelden zijn echt, de interpretatie van de 'Truthseeker' (een programma van RT) is echter extreme propaganda.
Dit soort propaganda is een misdrijf.
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Dit soort propaganda is een misdrijf.
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quote:'Russen hebben weer veel troepen bij grens Oekrane'
Rusland heeft alweer 10.000 tot 12.000 miltairen langs de grens met Oekrane samengetrokken. Dat schatte de NAVO maandag. De schatting komt ten tijde van oplopende spanningen tussen Oekrane en Rusland.
Veel strijd wordt geleverd vrijwel aan de grens van de twee landen ten zuidoosten van de Oekraense stad Loehansk.
Eerder dit jaar trok Rusland ongeveer 40.000 man terug van de grens. Half juni zouden er nog maar duizend man gelegerd zijn.
Oekrane beschuldigt Rusland van betrokkenheid bij de strijd van separatisten. Rusland overweegt volgens het persbureau RIA Novosti ''chirurgische tegenaanvallen'' op Oekraens grondgebied, omdat daarvandaan op Rusland wordt geschoten.
quote:'Raket uit Rusland trof Oekraens vliegtuig'
De raket waarmee maandag een Oekraens militair transportvliegtuig werd neergeschoten, is ''waarschijnlijk'' afgevuurd vanuit Rusland.
Die beschuldiging heeft het Oekraense ministerie van Defensie maandag geuit, meldde het Oekraense persbureau Interfax.
Het vliegtuig, een Antonov An-26, vloog volgens het ministerie op 6,5 kilometer hoogte boven het oosten van Oekrane. De kans dat het is geraakt door een lichte, vanaf de schouder afgevuurde raket is daarom klein volgens Oekrane.
''Het vliegtuig is geraakt door een andere, krachtigere raket, die waarschijnlijk is afgevuurd van Russisch grondgebied'', aldus de verklaring.
Maar volgens Russische media hebben rebellen in de regio Loehansk de verantwoordelijkheid opgeist voor het neerschieten van het vliegtuig. Ze zouden inzittenden gevangen hebben genomen en hen ondervragen.
Het is onduidelijk hoeveel mensen aan boord waren. Het Oekraense leger zoekt ten zuidoosten van de stad Loehansk naar het toestel en de inzittenden.
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Die presentator praat ook zo langzaam alsof hij een mentale handicap heeft. Of hij praat zo langzaam voor de mensen met een mentale handicap die deze shit geloven.quote:
Dit een representatieve video van de (pro)Russische propaganda. De beelden zijn echt, de interpretatie van de 'Truthseeker' (een programma van RT) is echter extreme propaganda.
Dit soort propaganda is een misdrijf.
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Lugansk vandaag
ANNA News
Alweer twee straaljagers neergeschoten.
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Die komen me bekend voor uit het Irak-topic, dat zijn Sukhoi Su-25 toestellen die Irak vorige week van Rusland heeft gekregen. De Oekranse luchtmacht heeft die dingen indardaad ook, maar het plaatje zal wel van willekeurig Irak-bericht geript zijn gezien de identieke kleurstelling. 
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Er gaat niets boven lekker in de zon zitten in de achtertuin met een heel koud glas bier , als je al 72 jaar bent en nog gezond, laat ze maar lachen de sukkels
BRICS neutrality on Ukraine a diplomatic win for Putin
A summit of the BRICS group of emerging market countries will abstain from criticising Russia's recent actions in Ukraine, Brazilian officials said, a diplomatic victory for President Vladimir Putin.
The summit statement will make only a passing reference to Ukraine and will echo the neutral stance adopted by Russia's fellow BRICS countries - China, India, Brazil and South Africa - at the United Nations, according to Brazilian diplomats organising the meeting on Tuesday in Fortaleza.
Facing efforts to isolate Russia by leading Western nations, the BRICS summit provides Putin with a welcome geopolitical platform to show he has friends elsewhere, economic powers seen as shaping the future of the world. [Reuters]
A summit of the BRICS group of emerging market countries will abstain from criticising Russia's recent actions in Ukraine, Brazilian officials said, a diplomatic victory for President Vladimir Putin.
The summit statement will make only a passing reference to Ukraine and will echo the neutral stance adopted by Russia's fellow BRICS countries - China, India, Brazil and South Africa - at the United Nations, according to Brazilian diplomats organising the meeting on Tuesday in Fortaleza.
Facing efforts to isolate Russia by leading Western nations, the BRICS summit provides Putin with a welcome geopolitical platform to show he has friends elsewhere, economic powers seen as shaping the future of the world. [Reuters]
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Ukraine Crisis: More Canadian Troops Heading To Europe
OTTAWA - About 120 Canadian soldiers leave for eastern and central Europe today as part of a continuing show of support for Ukraine.
The military would not give a specific destination for the troops.
The soldiers are from the 3rd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment and they will relieve a contingent from the 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, which was sent to Poland earlier this spring.
The latest Canadian detachment is slated to take part in training exercises with U.S. and NATO troops.
The Harper government has been strongly supportive of Ukraine in its showdown with Russia.
Dozens of Russian individuals and institutions have been placed on a sanctions list.
Canada also has six CF-18 fighter jets in Europe. They were originally sent to Romania, but now are moving to Latvia on Russia's Baltic doorstep.
OTTAWA - About 120 Canadian soldiers leave for eastern and central Europe today as part of a continuing show of support for Ukraine.
The military would not give a specific destination for the troops.
The soldiers are from the 3rd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment and they will relieve a contingent from the 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, which was sent to Poland earlier this spring.
The latest Canadian detachment is slated to take part in training exercises with U.S. and NATO troops.
The Harper government has been strongly supportive of Ukraine in its showdown with Russia.
Dozens of Russian individuals and institutions have been placed on a sanctions list.
Canada also has six CF-18 fighter jets in Europe. They were originally sent to Romania, but now are moving to Latvia on Russia's Baltic doorstep.
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Ik vind het wel fascinerend dat iemand met een glad gezicht Amerika de schuld kan geven van de genocide in Ruwanda. Ik vraag mezelf dan altijd af, zal hij dat echt zelf geloven?quote:
Dit is een representatieve video van de (pro)Russische propaganda. De beelden zijn echt, de interpretatie van de 'Truthseeker' (een programma van RT) is echter extreme propaganda.
Dit soort propaganda is een misdrijf.
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http://lightbox.time.com/(...)iid=lb-gal-viewagn#3quote:In Ukraine, A Battle of Words and Images
As the conflict in Ukraine continues, another battle rages far from the front lines—a battle between Russian news sites and a group of Kiev-based journalists who say the sites are misusing, even fabricating, news photographs filed from Ukraine.
In an effort to put a stop to what they see as fraud, the journalists—who are alumni and students at Kiev’s Mohyla School of Journalism—have launched Stopfake.org, a “fact-checking project, which aims to help people separate the truth from the lie in the media,” as the group’s co-founder and editor-in-chief Oleg Shankovskyi tells TIME.
Shankovskyi and his colleagues feel that the best way to combat what they see as an inappropriate use of images is simply to point out the inaccuracies. “Very often people just don’t think critically about what they hear from the media—they just believe it,” he says.
Screenshots from Russian TV
Screenshots from Russian TV
Maria Tsypko on various Russian TV stations.
The group points to one recurring instance of apparent misrepresentation as typical of the stories
they are trying to counter. A woman called Maria Tsypko periodically emerges in interviews on Russian TV, each time in an apparently different pro-Russian role. She has been interviewed as a separatist camp organizer in Odessa, played a political refugee in Sevastopol and even collected donations in Crimea to ask Russia for help.
Not all misappropriated media has been this blatant, the group says. Often photographs shot in China, Canada and Mexico over the past 30 years are recaptioned to represent events currently occurring in Ukraine.
One photo of a burning tank claimed to be from conflicts in Donbass was actually taken in 1989 during the Tiananmen Square protests. Another image pictured a crying girl sitting on the body of her deceased mother, allegedly killed in Donbass. The image is actually a promotional photo from the 2010 Russian war film Fortress of War.
One of the more obvious examples of misappropriation involves Ron Haviv’s iconic 1992 image from the Bosnian War, which shows Serbian paramilitary officers, known as Arkan’s Tigers, kicking the dying bodies of Muslims. The photo recently went viral on Facebook and Twitter, with a caption claiming it portrayed Ukrainian soldiers in Crimea.
“This, of course, is just a complete misuse and fabrication, and is being used to instill fear,” says Haviv. “It doesn’t represent the current situation in Ukraine because it’s not Ukraine.”
Indeed, he views photo misuse as part of a larger trend in recent conflict photography. War-torn countries like Syria have become too dangerous for many professional journalists to visit, leaving the media often dependent on images and videos produced by the combatants themselves. “I think we’re certainly seeing with the war in Syria, and now in this conflict, the power of social media,” says Haviv. “It’s so easy to take an image from one place, put another caption on it and put it out there.” The line between news and propaganda has never been so thin.
.quote:Abducted Mariupol journalist investigating human rights violations in Donbas found dead
Donetsk - Serhiy Dolhov, a Mariupol journalist abducted on June 18, has been found dead near Dnipropetrovsk, Novorossiya People's Front public organization cochairman Kostiantyn Dolhov said on Sunday, July 13.
De Oekrainse zijde begint de schuld van aanvallen steeds meer direct aan de Russen toe te schrijven.
quote:Washington Post: Ukraine says military plane was 'probably' shot down from Russian territory
DNIPROPETROVSK, Ukraine — Ukraine’s top defense official said Monday that Russia may have shot down a Ukrainian military transport plane, an action that would represent a dramatic new step in the months-long conflict that has engulfed eastern Ukraine.
Pro-Russian separatists immediately asserted responsibility for the downing of the An-26 plane over Luhansk, but Ukrainian Defense Minister Valery Heletey said the aircraft had been flying too high for their shoulder-mounted rockets to reach it.
“The plane was downed by another, more powerful missile weapon that probably was used from the territory of the Russian Federation,” Heletey told President Petro Poroshenko, according to a statement on the president’s Web site. Russia did not comment on the accusation.
twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 08:44:44 #BREAKINGNEWS THE MISSILE ATTACK ON #ZELENOPOLE THAT KILLED 19 UKR. TROOPS ON JULY 3RD WAS CONDUCTED WITH A #HURRICANE #MLRS FROM #RUSSIA. reageer retweet
quote:Amvrosiivka shelled from Grad from Russia side yesterday
KYIV, July 15 /Ukrinform/.
The town of Amvrosiivka was shelled from Grad from the territory of Russia this night. Volodymyr Parasiuk writes on his Facebook page. “This night, Amvrosiivka is shelled from Grad from the territory of Russia. Information is verified.”
Also, according to Parasiuk, the 24th Brigade is again bombarded near the Dovzhansky checkpoint.
“The 24th Brigade stayed at one place for two days and moved nowhere. Perhaps, someone gave such an order so that the enemy could take a careful sight,” he notes.
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Russia's Continuing Support for Armed Separatists in Ukraine and Ukraine's Efforts Toward Peace, Unity, and Stability
While Russia says it seeks peace, its actions do not match its rhetoric. We have no evidence that Russia’s support for the separatists has ceased. In fact, we assess that Russia continues to provide them with heavy weapons, other military equipment and financing, and continues to allow militants to enter Ukraine freely. Russia denies this, just as it denied its forces were involved in Crimea -- until after the fact. Russia has refused to call for the separatists to lay down their arms, and continues to mass its troops along the Ukrainian border. Many self-proclaimed “leaders” of the separatists hail from Russia and have ties to the Russian government. This all paints a telling picture of Russia’s continued policy of destabilization in eastern Ukraine.
Here are the facts:
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While Russia says it seeks peace, its actions do not match its rhetoric. We have no evidence that Russia’s support for the separatists has ceased. In fact, we assess that Russia continues to provide them with heavy weapons, other military equipment and financing, and continues to allow militants to enter Ukraine freely. Russia denies this, just as it denied its forces were involved in Crimea -- until after the fact. Russia has refused to call for the separatists to lay down their arms, and continues to mass its troops along the Ukrainian border. Many self-proclaimed “leaders” of the separatists hail from Russia and have ties to the Russian government. This all paints a telling picture of Russia’s continued policy of destabilization in eastern Ukraine.
Here are the facts:
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twitter:myroslavapetsa twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 00:32:54 Great take on Russian border guard Artem Karat whose "crazy stupid love" for Instagram destroyed #Kremlin propaganda http://t.co/6hWi4lCgsH reageer retweet
Great take on Russian border guard Artem Karat whose "crazy stupid love" for Instagram destroyed 
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twitter:myroslavapetsa twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 00:34:57 #Avakov: Ministry of Interior sacks 585 #Donetsk cops after checking them on fulfilling allegiance of oath. 242 more to be probed reageer retweet
twitter:myroslavapetsa twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 09:56:37 Bomb threat again at @5channel, cop tells us in the newsroom. We are being evacuated reageer retweet
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quote:Partijen Oekrane mogelijk in gesprek
Strijdende partijen in Oekrane hebben dinsdag mogelijk contact met elkaar. President Petro Porosjenko heeft laten weten dat zijn regering direct contact wil met de pro-Russische separatisten in het oosten van het land.
Porosjenko onderstreepte dat in een telefoongesprek met de Duitse bondskanselier Angela Merkel.
Dinsdag is er wellicht een videoconferentie met vertegenwoordigers van Oekrane, Rusland, separatisten en van de Organisatie voor Veiligheid en Samenwerking in Europa (OVSE).
De separatisten ontkenden dinsdag dat ze wapens krijgen geleverd uit Rusland. Een van hun leiders verklaarde dinsdag dat de wapens die ze gebruiken, waaronder zware raketwerpers, afkomstig zijn uit de arsenalen van het Oekraense leger.
Kiev heeft Rusland er van beschuldigd de separatisten van wapentuig te voorzien. Dat gebeurde nadat maandag een Oekraens transportvliegtuig uit de lucht werd geschoten met een raket.
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Putin seeks BRICS moves to protect against U.S. 'sanction attacks'
(Reuters) - Russia will press other BRICS emerging market nations to agree measures to prevent "sanction attacks" by the United States to "harass" countries opposing its policies, President Vladimir Putin said.
Putin said he would urge Brazil, China, India and South Africa to draw "substantive conclusions" from sanctions imposed on Russia over its role in the Ukraine crisis during a two-day BRICS summit in Brazil starting on Tuesday.
"Recently Russia has been exposed to a sanction attack by the United States and its allies," the Kremlin leader told Itar-Tass news agency in an interview.
"Together we should think about a system of measures that would help prevent the harassment of countries that do not agree with some foreign policy decisions made by the United States and their allies, but would promote a civilised dialogue on all points at issue based on mutual respect."
Putin gave no details but said the BRICS should cooperate more at the United Nations, where Russia and China have the right of veto, and work together more closely to combat security threats.
"Any attempts to create a model of international relations where all decisions are made within a single 'pole' are ineffective, malfunction regularly, and are ultimately set to fail," he told Itar-Tass.
(Reuters) - Russia will press other BRICS emerging market nations to agree measures to prevent "sanction attacks" by the United States to "harass" countries opposing its policies, President Vladimir Putin said.
Putin said he would urge Brazil, China, India and South Africa to draw "substantive conclusions" from sanctions imposed on Russia over its role in the Ukraine crisis during a two-day BRICS summit in Brazil starting on Tuesday.
"Recently Russia has been exposed to a sanction attack by the United States and its allies," the Kremlin leader told Itar-Tass news agency in an interview.
"Together we should think about a system of measures that would help prevent the harassment of countries that do not agree with some foreign policy decisions made by the United States and their allies, but would promote a civilised dialogue on all points at issue based on mutual respect."
Putin gave no details but said the BRICS should cooperate more at the United Nations, where Russia and China have the right of veto, and work together more closely to combat security threats.
"Any attempts to create a model of international relations where all decisions are made within a single 'pole' are ineffective, malfunction regularly, and are ultimately set to fail," he told Itar-Tass.
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Het laat wel zien dat Poetin volledig in Koude-Oorlog-termen denkt. Daar moeten wij in Nederland ook rekening mee houden, want wij zijn ook een van de "allies" van die duivelse Verenigde Staten.
Oorlog lijkt nu heviger dan ooit
Edit: Veel mensen korten in hun tweets het woordje "with" af, waardoor het een emoticon wordt. Het gevolg is dat er in bloedserieuze berichten soms een misplaatste
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twitter:EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 00:47:25 #Luhansk. #Terrorists shelled residential district Myrniy http://t.co/ba0VJG3290 @tombreadley | EMPR News #Ukraine reageer retweet
twitter:EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 01:59:06 #Luhansk. #Metalist district is on fire @Praporec http://t.co/6uH97CaKww | EMPR News #Ukraine #terrorists #russiainvadesukraine reageer retweet
twitter:EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 04:19:03 #Luhansk. 05:05am. Explosions in the city @100007182042214 | EMPR News #Ukraine reageer retweet
twitter:EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 08:19:58 #ATO positions near #Amvrosiivka were shelled with multiple rocket launcher. There are casualties, #Tymchuk FB |EMPR http://t.co/RwY8ATOwqO reageer retweet
twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 10:19:55 #BreakingNews Pro-Russian sources say 10 killed, many injured when 5 missiles were fired from jet towards the center of #Snizhne. reageer retweet
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Las ik dat nou goed?
Heeft het Pentagon bewijs dat de raket die het vliegtuig neerhaalde van Russische bodem werd gelanceerd?
Heeft het Pentagon bewijs dat de raket die het vliegtuig neerhaalde van Russische bodem werd gelanceerd?
"The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.”
Ik weet niet of het klopt. Daarom hield ik het nog even achter. Maar er is deze tweet.quote:
Las ik dat nou goed?
Heeft het Pentagon bewijs dat de raket die het vliegtuig neerhaalde van Russische bodem werd gelanceerd?
twitter:lennutrajektoor twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 08:18:20 #Pentagon has the sat image when #RUS army self-propelled SAM BUK shot a rocket which downed #UKR An-26 on July 14. http://t.co/6lWRZzuVKz reageer retweet
twitter:dpatrikarakos twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 12:02:39 RT @ChristopherJM SBU chief Nalyvaichenko: "there is incontrovertible evidence" of #Russia involvement in downing plane in #Luhansk ysterday reageer retweet
RT @twitter:EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 11:20:04 Military flights in #ATO zone are suspended until investigation of AN-26 downing circumstances is finalized, ATOspox Seleznyov |EMPR reageer retweet
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quote:twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 10:19:55 #BreakingNews Pro-Russian sources say 10 killed, many injured when 5 missiles were fired from jet towards the center of #Snizhne. reageer retweet
twitter:MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 10:28:16 #MASSIVE destruction in #Snizhne. reageer retweet
twitter:Kateryna_Kruk twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 10:58:36 this night #Snizhne was bombed from air. spokesperson of #ATO HQ says it wasn't UA aviation......http://t.co/1zJ6m15qWB reageer retweet
this night twitter:myroslavapetsa twitterde op dinsdag 15-07-2014 om 12:10:11 Nat Sec & Def Council: An unknown plane hit #Snizhne with an air-strike, Ukrainian aviation hasn't been in up the air since July 14 reageer retweet
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Interessant interview met een Armeense seperatist.
http://www.theguardian.co(...)rn-ukraine-interview
http://www.theguardian.co(...)rn-ukraine-interview
Intussen zijn de video en het bijbehorende artikel op de RT-website verwijderd. Om wat voor reden dan ook.quote:
Dit is een representatieve video van de (pro)Russische propaganda. De beelden zijn echt, de interpretatie van de 'Truthseeker' (een programma van RT) is echter extreme propaganda.
Dit soort propaganda is een misdrijf.
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De aankomst van Vostok Batallion in Donetsk, hun bezetting van het vliegveld en het gevecht daarna, waarbij het leger het vliegveld veroverde, waren bekend. Maar dat veel militanten pas zijn gevallen tijdens hun aftocht naar Donetsk door 'friendly fire' is nieuw.quote:Op dinsdag 15 juli 2014 11:19 schreef Happel het volgende:
Interessant interview met een Armeense seperatist.
http://www.theguardian.co(...)rn-ukraine-interview
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