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Tijdlijn van de ontwikkelingen in Oekrane
NOVEMBER
* Nov 21: Kiev suddenly announces suspension of trade and association talks with the EU and opts to revive economic ties with Moscow, triggering months of mass rallies in Kiev.
* Nov 30: Riot police try to break up the Kiev demonstration by force. Protest turns against Yanukovich and his government.

DECEMBER
Protests continue with crowds of up to 800,000. Some clashes with police. Opposition forms bloc called Maidan. Yanukovich and Putin meet, Putin agrees to buy $15 billion of Ukrainian debt and to slash by a third the price of Russian gas supplies to Ukraine.

JANUARY
* Jan 22: Three people die in protests in Kiev. EU threatens action over crisis. Talks between opposition, Yanukovich fail.
* Jan 23: Washington threatens sanctions over violence.
* Jan 26: Unrest spreads to pro-Yanukovich east.

FEBRUARY
Anti-government protests turn increasingly violent. At least 77 people killed in clashes between demonstrators and police.
* Feb 21: Opposition leaders sign EU-mediated peace pact with Yanukovich.
* Feb 22: Ukraine's parliament votes to remove Yanukovich, who flees. Arch-rival Yulia Tymoshenko released from jail.
* Feb 26: Ukraine appoints new government. Angry Russia puts 150,000 troops on high alert.
* Feb 27-28: Armed men seize Crimea parliament, raise Russian flag. Militia take control of two airports in Crimea.

MARCH
* March 1: Putin wins parliamentary approval to invade Ukraine, angering the White House. Russian forces fan out in Crimea.
* March 6: Crimea's leadership votes to join Russia. U.S. President Barack Obama orders sanctions on those responsible for Moscow's actions in Ukraine.
EU leaders hold emergency summit to find ways to pressure Russia to back down and accept mediation.
* March 15: Two killed in clashes between pro-Russian demonstrators and Ukrainian nationalists.
* March 16: Referendum held in Crimea, shows overwhelming support for joining the Russian Federation.
* March 21: Putin signs laws completing annexation of Crimea. The U.S. imposes sanctions on Putin's close allies, EU follows with similar measures.
* March 23: NATO says Russia has amassed a large force at Ukraine's border.
* March 24: Ukraine pulls troops from Crimea.

APRIL
* April 2: NATO suspends cooperation with Russia.
* April 7: Pro-Russia activists in eastern Ukraine proclaim the creation of the "Donetsk People's Republic".
* April 12: Separatists take control of city of Slaviansk in eastern Ukraine. Kiev prepares troops.
* April 13: One Ukrainian state security officer killed and five wounded in operation against separatists.
* April 14: Obama warns Putin in phone call that Moscow would face further costs for its actions in Ukraine.
* April 17: Pro-Russian separatists seize armored vehicles of Ukraine forces trying to recapture rebel-controlled town.
* April 18: The United States, Russia, Ukraine and the EU reach deal for illegal armed groups to disarm and end occupations of public buildings and spaces.
* April 19: Separatists say they will not sign deal until the Kiev government steps down.
* April 24: Ukraine sends in troops again to try to expel the separatists in Slaviansk, kill five rebels.
* April 25: Ukrainian forces mount full blockade of Slaviansk. Separatists detain group of international observers, say a Kiev "spy" among them.
* April 26: G7 leaders agree to impose extra sanctions on Russia over Ukraine. Yatsenyuk cuts short a Vatican trip to see Pope Francis, saying Russian warplanes violated Ukraine's airspace seven times overnight. Russia denies the claim.
* April 27: Rebels say the OSCE observers are "prisoners of war" and present them in front of the press, where they say they have not been mistreated.
* April 28: West imposes new sanctions on Moscow. Russia vows a "painful" response. Russia says troops have returned to barracks after conducting exercises on the border with Ukraine. The West says there is no sign of this pull-back. Russia assures the US it will not invade Ukraine.
* April 29: Russia accuses Washington of seeking to revive Iron Curtain policies. Putin warns sanctions could harm Western interests in Russia's lucrative energy sector, denies there are Russian forces in eastern Ukraine.
* April 30: Kiev says its armed forces are on "full combat alert" against a possible Russian invasion. Interim president Oleksandr Turchynov admits Kiev is "helpless" to prevent rebels over-running towns. Rebels storm the regional police building and town hall in Gorlivka. The International Monetary Fund approves $17-billion aid deal for the beleaguered Ukrainian economy.

MAY
* May 1: Some 300 pro-Russian militants seize prosecutor's office in Donetsk amid violent clashes with police. Conscription reintroduced for all Ukrainian men aged 18-25.
* May 2: Ukrainian commandos launch pre-dawn raid to retake Slavyansk. Rebels shoot down two helicopters and two servicemen are killed.
* May 3: Slavyansk rebels free OSCE inspectors after Kremlin envoy intervenes. Two days of mourning proclaimed over Odessa deaths. Fierce firefights around Slavyansk and nearby towns as military seeks to retake control.
* May 4: Kiev vows to expand "anti-terrorism" operations. Yatsenyuk launches probe into security forces in Odessa over the deaths.
May 5: A fresh assault begins on Slovyansk. The interior minister says more than 30 rebels are killed. Four servicemen are also killed. Russia warns Europe's peace is at risk. UN chief Ban Ki-moon offers to mediate personally as the West launches new diplomatic push.
May 6: Russia rejects a German-led move for a new peace meeting. Germany says Ukraine is on the verge of war.
May 7: In a surprise announcement, Putin calls for rebel independence referendums to be pushed back and endorses Ukraine's planned presidential election. He says Russian troops pulled back from border. The new overall toll from Ukrainian military operations stands at 14 servicemen dead.
May 8: Rebels vow to press on with referendums despite Putin's call. Russia conducts military exercises, test-fires several missiles, and says nuclear capabilities are on "constant combat alert." NATO says there is no sign of a Russian troop pull-back.
May 9: Putin flies to annexed Crimea after overseeing a display of military might in the Red Square where he paid tribute to Russia's "all-conquering patriotic force." Clashes break out in Mariupol that the interior minister says leave 21 dead.
May 10: France and Germany threaten to step up sanctions against Russia if the May 25 election is disrupted and urge Kiev to cease "offensive" operations before the vote.
May 11: "Referendums" are held in the provinces of Luhansk and Donetsk. Fighting is reported around Slovyansk as rebels try to retake TV tower.
May 12: Pro-Russia activists declare resounding victory in a twin referendum on sovereignty for eastern Ukraine. The provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk voted on Sunday to secede from Ukraine. Russian gas giant Gazprom gives Ukraine until June 3 to pay $1.6bn for natural gas. The EU ramps up sanctions on Moscow.
May 13: Seven Ukrainian soldiers killed in rebel ambush in the deadliest single loss of life for the military since the start of the uprising.
May 14: Ukraine hosts "national unity" talks based on an OSCE roadmap but rebels are not invited.
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  maandag 7 juli 2014 @ 20:26:22 #2
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Konstantinovka & Semenovoka ontzet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:12:24 #Tymchuk #Semenovoka is completely cleansed. #ATO made filtration there. #Ukraine reageer retweet


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  maandag 7 juli 2014 @ 20:27:11 #3
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lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:40:18 On July 3-4 terrorists in #Slaviansk had 18 tanks, around 30 BMP-APC-BRDM-BMDs, 12 AA guns. ALL tanks were lost. 1 remained. Didn't make it. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:43:14 700 #Girkin aka #Strelok men made to #Donetsk. 300 stayed in #Horlivka, some went to #Luhansk-#Krasnodon direction. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:51:43 Terrorists fled #Slaviansk in 2 columns, 1 over fields & rear guard. Rear guard & over fields where smashed to bits. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:53:33 The main fleeing column was left intact, although #ATO 2 Su planes did follow them to #Horlivka. #Ukraine reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:02:02 Battalion "#Vostok" has almost non existing chain of command. In #Donetsk beside 700 #Girkin's men 1200 #Vostok ones + Russian Orthodox Army reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:06:53 #ATO air forces made air raids in #Horlivka on #Bezler aka #Bez unit camps, ammo depot. Had significant losses, ammo depot gone. #Ukraine reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:05:40 #Torez-#Snizhne units have been hit seriously, in bad shapes,also w no armour now.The #Horlivka units have been too seriously hit, lost ammo reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:10:54 On June 6 fr #Russian Orthodox Army all mercenary snipers left saying won't obey to idiots & salary is shit. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:12:46 On June 6 terrorists tried to seize #Donetsk airport. Unskilled ROA & #Vostok. Lost many, 1 tank, lorry truck w AA gun. Tank was fr #Snizhne reageer retweet
Tanks en nog heel veel ander materieel is achtergelaten in Slaviansk
tuumapomm twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:45:34 @lennutrajektoor tactical retreat my ass reageer retweet


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Die lennutrajektoor is pro-Oekrane gok ik?
  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 12:21:49 #5
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 8 juli 2014 09:24 schreef Solstice1 het volgende:
Die lennutrajektoor is pro-Oekrane gok ik?
Heel erg pro-Oekrane.
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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 12:43:36 #6
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lennutrajektoor twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 07:48:47 #Tymchuk Last night #ATO executed well planned plan & liberated town #Konstantinovka. It's under full ATO ctrl. #Ukraine reageer retweet
Konstantinovka


Het vreemde is dat Konstantinovka gisteren ook al was ontdaan van rebellen (zie post 2). Er is weinig nieuws van het front.

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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 12:58:20 #7
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Dit blijft toch moeilijk te accepteren.
EuromaidanPR twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 21:15:46 Give up #Crimea ? From the owner of @KyivPost WTF!!! How #Ukraine Can Begin to Move Forward http://t.co/MosN7noHWm via @HuffPostUK |EMPR reageer retweet
Daar mag best een paar korrels zout bij.
EuromaidanPR twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 22:00:11 National Security Defense Council: the border on #Ukrainian side is fully controlled by the army, border guards http://t.co/lzMMrXb9Lw |EMPR reageer retweet
Grens controle posten (bcp) vannacht beschoten
EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 08:44:33 No losses on #ATO side last night. Checkpoints near Illinka, Marynivka, Dyakove, Dolzhansky bcp under fire, #Tymchuk FB |EMPR reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 09:18:47 8 border guards injured as a result of shelling in Kolesnykivka, #Lugansk region https://t.co/A41wTfMVii |EMPR http://t.co/uZw8hZaopO reageer retweet
Kolesnykivk

EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 08:22:43 Today attack on the City Council of #Artemovsk battalion Artemovsk no casualties http://t.co/K37ZlGrqs1 |EMPR #Ukraine reageer retweet


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Heel erg pro-Oekrane.
Dat dacht ik al, dank je.
  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 13:41:49 #9
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Gisteren


maxseddon twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:13:10 Madcap MP Oleh Lyashko made the Slavyansk city council chair write a resignation statement "to the Ukrainian people." http://t.co/tK37Uq0oYF reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 23:10:21 This is why, I refuse extremist politicians to be part of the ATO in eastern #Ukraine!https://t.co/wUN600usmQ Oleh Lyashko play warlord... reageer retweet
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RutheniaRus twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 11:18:57 99% arms/ammo terrorists left in #Slavyank taken from #Ukrainian Army's depot in Crimea. GRAD, Т-64B from 18 and 205 brigades #Russia - NSDC reageer retweet
RutheniaRus twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 12:03:52 Several explosions of railway in Yasynuvata, 30 min from #Donetsk yesterday 21.30. #Ukrainehttp://t.co/cpBbFjCRWi http://t.co/xp8DL62S1z reageer retweet
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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 15:31:41 #11
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Separatists Kidnap Mine Directors in Donetsk

Novosti Donbassa reports that the mayor of Donetsk, Oleksandr Lukyanchenko, announced at a press conference today that militants from the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic have kidnapped the directors of two mines.

The directors of the A.A. Skochinsky and the Kalinina mines were abducted this morning from their places of work. After the press conference Lukyanchenko said that talks were under way to secure their release.

The article names the director of the Skochinsky mine as Varlam Valerianovich Miminoshvili.
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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 15:32:00 #12
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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 15:25:39 #BreakingWhat?! Petro #Poroshenko is preparing a plan, which will be "an unpleasant surprise for the terrorists". - NSDC spox reageer retweet
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President Poroshenko approves Donbas liberation plan

KYIV, July 8 /Ukrinform/.

"The President of Ukraine, Supreme Commander-in-Chief Petro Poroshenko very thoroughly approved a plan that fully provides all phases of the liberation of our land from those people who are destabilizing the situation out there," Koval said.

He noted that there are also plans to liberate Donetsk and Luhansk.
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Medvedchuk won't be present at tripartite talks anymore

KYIV, July 8 /Ukrinform/.

Viktor Medvedchuk will no longer attend the negotiations of the so-called tripartite contact group to resolve the situation in eastern Ukraine, a source close to the negotiation process told Ukrinform on Tuesday.

According to the source, ex-president Leonid Kuchma will continue to participate in the negotiations.
A reminder that Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council (NSDC) Andriy Parubiy called Medvedchuk a criminal who in recent years has helped terrorists. Putin's godfather, in turn, demanded a meeting of the NSDC and that Parubiy refute his remarks.
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Avakov: Power supply restored in Sloviansk

KYIV, July 8 /Ukrinform/.

"Power supply of part of Sloviansk started at 15.00," he said, adding that water will appear there in three days after the resumption of power supply as it is due to the peculiarities of the process. Since we have a situation with mining, we are moving very carefully," Avakov said.
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Lithuania ratifies AA with Ukraine

KYIV, July 8 /Ukrinform/.

The Lithuanian parliament at its meeting on Tuesday ratified the association agreements between Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova and the European Union.

The first EU country to ratify the Association Agreement between the EU and these three countries became Romania. The ratification took place on July 2. The same day, Moldova ratified its agreement with the EU.
myroslavapetsa twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 13:51:14 #Ukraine's Justice Ministry wants Communist Party, which MPs backed separatism in the East and #Crimea, banned. reageer retweet


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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 17:49:40 #14
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Kiev bereidt offensief Donetsk voor

dinsdag 8 jul 2014, 17:02 (Update: 08-07-14, 17:19)

In de aanloop naar een offensief tegen de rebellen in Donetsk heeft de Oekraense president Porosjenko een nieuwe stafchef benoemd die de militaire operatie in Oost-Oekrane moet cordineren.

Onlangs verving Porosjenko al de minister van Defensie door een daadkrachtige generaal die voor succes moet zorgen in de strijd tegen de opstandelingen.

Afgelopen weekend boekte het Oekraense regeringsleger een grote overwinning met de herovering van het rebellenbolwerk Slavjansk.

Campagne
Het leger bereidt zich nu voor op de herovering van de twee resterende grote steden waar de pro-Russische separatisten het al maandenlang voor het zeggen hebben, Donetsk en Loegansk.

Zeker voor de inname van Donetsk, een stad met 900.000 inwoners, zal een lange militaire campagne nodig zijn, denkt correspondent David Jan Godfroid. Waarschijnlijk zullen Oekraense militairen de stad omsingelen om de rebellen van de buitenwereld af te sluiten.

De burgemeester van Donetsk heeft president Porosjenko gevraagd geen luchtaanvallen of zwaar artillerievuur te gebruiken bij het offensief. "Het is onmogelijk om alle 900.000 inwoners te evacueren, waar moeten ze heen?", schrijft de burgemeester op zijn website.

Verdediging
Ook de honderden opstandelingen die Slavjansk zijn ontvlucht, houden zich op in Donetsk. De rebellen in die stad hebben ook een nieuwe bevelhebber aangewezen die de verdediging van Donetsk moet leiden.

Twee bruggen buiten de stad hebben ze al opgeblazen om de opmars van het leger te bemoeilijken.

De opstandelingen verwijten de Russische president Poetin dat hij hen niet te hulp schiet. Moskou staat onder zware druk vanuit het Westen om zich niet langer actief te bemoeien met de crisis in Oekrane, op straffe van verdergaande sancties.

Wapenstilstand
President Porosjenko heeft een nieuw eenzijdig bestand in Oost-Oekrane uitgesloten. Maar hij zou wel met een internationale contactgroep en de separatisten willen overleggen over een staakt-het-vuren. Dat zou moeten plaatsvinden in een stadje nabij Donetsk.
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'Lugansk People's Republic' Leader Claims Control of Izvarino Border Crossing


Valery Bolotov, the leader of the self-declared Lugansk People's Republic (LNR), has stated at a press conference today that his separatist forces are in control of the Izvarino area and the section of the Russo-Ukrainian border it lies on.

He claimed that LNR forces had succeeded in pushing back Ukrainian forces from Lugansk, noting that "some sections of the front line have moved in our favour."

He also claimed that the LNR militia had acquired significant military hardware, though did not specify where from (though their claim to control a border crossing certainly suggests Russian imports).

Bolotov said that his forces now had "armoured vehicles and artillery systems" including Grad rocket launchers, howitzers, anti-aircraft systems and mortars.

He also claimed that while the LNR was prepared for peace talks, they would only do so under their own terms, accusing the Ukrainian government of using the ceasefire to concentrate their forces.

vsyo twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 17:50:26 @MiddleEast_BRK A Ukrainain commander in Donetsk is arrested for transferring a large weapons arsenal to rebels http://t.co/tOVzoat46T reageer retweet


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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 21:51:34 #16
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Zeker de Britten stellen zich harder op tegen Rusland.
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Poroshenko Calls for UK and Italy to Join 'Normandy Four' Group

Commenting on President Poroshenko's discussions with the Italian foreign minister, Federica Mogherini, the Ukrainian president's press service said:

"The president praised the efforts of Germany and France, which allowed the formation of the so-called "Normandy four" [Ukraine, Russia, Germany and France] with the participation of Russia. Still, according to him, the international influence could be much stronger if Italy and Britain joined France and Germany."
Ik vind wel dat ze een aantal karakteristieke beelden van Lenin moeten laten staan. Als de Taliban historische Boeddha beelden opblaast vinden we dat ook zonde.
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Two More Lenin Statues Fall Overnight

Two statues of Lenin were toppled last night in Ukraine.

One of the statues was torn down in the village of Chervona Sloboda in the northern Sumy region.
Interfax-Ukraine reports that the Ukrainian Communist Party has confirmed the removal of the statue and is pursuing criminal charges:

"Law enforcers have established that vandals damaged the monument by having it pulled down from the pedestal by a tractor and a tow," the statement said.

Another statue was torn down in the town of Bilozerka in the southern Kherson region. Tired of waiting for the authorities' decision, Ukrainian activists came to Bilozerka and dismantled the monument to Lenin by themselves. The police did not interfere with the will of the people.

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Is het zo rustig geworden in deze reeks? Worden de trollen ook niet meer door Rusland gesteund?

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Russische kater na Krim-annexatie: economie op de rand van recessie

Gewone Russen op de Krim beginnen de economische gevolgen van de Russische annexatie langzamerhand te voelen. De Russische regering is van plan om miljarden uit te trekken om het schiereiland weer op de been te helpen. Ook het toerisme op de Krim kent een enorme terugval.
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Russische economie op rand van recessie
Internationale sancties die gelinkt zijn aan de annexatie (die door de meeste VN-lidstaten veroordeeld werd) en aan de steun die Rusland geeft aan de rebellen in het oosten van Oekrane, eisen ook hun tol van de Russische economie. Die staat op de rand van een recessie.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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Worden de trollen ook niet meer door Rusland gesteund?
:D
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Ukraine threatens rebels with 'nasty surprise' in new push

Security officials in Kiev gave away nothing about their military plans. But a spokesman for the "anti-terrorist operation", Andriy Lysenko, said:
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There is a plan ... under which we will be able to liberate these towns (Donetsk and Luhansk). We are not publicising details of this plan. It should be a nasty surprise for the terrorists.
At a meeting on Monday with Poroshenko, Donetsk mayor Olexander Lukyanchenko urged him not use air strikes or heavy artillery to crush the rebels.
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We have a population in the town now of more than 900,000 people minus those who have left. It's impossible to evacuate them and there is nowhere for them to go. Their security must be guaranteed via negotiations at all levels.
Ukraine's richest man, coal-and-steel magnate Rinat Akhmetov, made a similar appeal on Monday.

Since hundreds of rebels flooded into the city at the weekend, armed men have been out on the streets, setting up new barricades and checkpoints. Borodai brushed off suggestions that Slaviansk had been a defeat, portraying it as a successful tactical withdrawal, though Kiev says the rebels sustained heavy losses.

Borodai, who also scoffed at talk of Kiev having resources to blockade Donetsk and Luhansk, said Igor Strelkov, a Muscovite who commanded forces in Slaviansk, would take over as commander-in-chief for defending Donetsk.

But another rebel commander, Aleksander Khodakovsky of the so-called Vostok battalion - or eastern battalion - whose fighters also occupy positions in Donetsk was critical of the decision to pull out of Slaviansk.
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Frankly speaking, we didn't believe them when we got phone calls saying they were leaving Slaviansk. I hope Strelkov did not come here in order to go away. There will not be one single commander here ... because if Mr Strelkov suddenly chooses to leave Donetsk, with the aim of preserving the lives of the people of Donetsk and the lives of the volunteers, then we will not follow his order.
Though Borodai said he had been in "consultations" in Russia, many rebels now reproach President Vladimir Putin's administration in Moscow, which is under threat from further Western sanctions, for giving them too little help.

The Ukrainian army's victory in Slaviansk has pushed peace talks involving separatist leaders off the agenda. But Donetsk's mayor, Lukyanchenko, said Poroshenko on Monday had proposed that a further round of talks, involving the so-called "contact group" and the separatists, should be held in the town of Svyatohirsk, north-east of Donetsk, which is the site of a 15th century Orthodox monastery.
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Zeker de Britten stellen zich harder op tegen Rusland.

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Ik vind wel dat ze een aantal karakteristieke beelden van Lenin moeten laten staan. Als de Taliban historische Boeddha beelden opblaast vinden we dat ook zonde.

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Het is weer duidelijk dat de multinationale graaiers achter deze contra-revolutie zitten, want Lenin moet het ontgelden.
Oekraine wordt een staat geheel voor de rijken en de armen kunnen het leplazerus krijgen, net als in de rest van de E.U. :( Oekraine laat meer en meer haar fascistische gezicht zien en dat is geen prettig gezicht.
Geen worden dat nazi van Balen van de nazi-partij VVD zo verheugd is met deze contra-revolutie. :r
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Wie herinnert zich Luhanskaya & Kandrashevka nog?

A Day in Luhansk: War’s Crimes, Horrors, and Uncertainties

Het leger gaf toe zij de luchtaanval hadden uitgevoerd waarbij door een vergissing burgerdoelen geraakt zijn. De enige keer, want liever schuiven ze de schuld op de rebellen af.

Er zijn ook herhaaldelijk berichten over het gebruikt van 'Grad multiple rocket launcher system' door de rebellen, zonder dat er beelden zijn van schade. De volgende video heb ik meerdere malen voorbij zien komen (zelfs meerdere malen bij dezelfde tweeter.)
lennutrajektoor twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 00:26:02 Video: July 7, #Luhansk, #RUS terrorists in the city centre shell w GRAD. #Ukraine https://t.co/YRWdk3gDMn reageer retweet

Daarmee creeren alvast de opties om latere slachtoffers daarmee te verklaren. De russen zien de bui al hangen een melden:
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Lugansk militia seize Grad multiple rocket launcher system

LUGANSK, July 07. /ITAR-TASS/.

People’s militia in the eastern Ukrainian city of Lugansk have managed to seize one of the three Grad multiple rocket launcher systems used to pound the city on Monday, eyewitnesses say, noting that these are early reports.

The launcher “only slightly damaged”, was moved to a city neighbourhood and “militiamen are painting over Ukrainian military marking” an Itar-Tass source has said. There have been no comments from the people’s militia headquarters as of yet.
Zodat ze kunnen ontkennen dat de Grad systemen via de grens met Rusland het land binnen gekomen zijn.

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Lugansk Republic’s self-defence forces seize town on border with Donetsk region

LUGANSK, July 08. /ITAR-TASS/.

Self-defense forces of the self-proclaimed unrecognized Lugansk People’s Republic seized the town of Popasnaya on the border with the Donetsk region, Novorossiya news agency said.

It said several hundred self-defense fighters had arrived in the town overnight to Monday. The agency said there were no Ukrainian Army servicemen there.

Popasnaya is located 30 km away from the city of Artemovsk and 20 km away from the township of Stakhanov where a “reserve staff’ of the Lugansk People’s Republic leader Valery Bolotov is being set up.

It has a population of about 20,000 people and has an important railway junction.
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8s.gif Op dinsdag 8 juli 2014 22:50 schreef Linkse_Boomknuffelaar het volgende:

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Het is weer duidelijk dat de multinationale graaiers achter deze contra-revolutie zitten, want Lenin moet het ontgelden.
Justice Ministry launches process to ban Communist Party of Ukraine

The Ukrainian Justice Ministry has asked Kyiv's District Administrative Court to ban the activity of the Communist Party of Ukraine.
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As a result of a large amount of evidence regarding illegal activities and illegal actions on the part of the Communist Party, I have made the decision, signed and sent it to the District Administrative Court regarding the liquidation of the Communist Party
Justice Minister Pavlo Petrenko said at a briefing on Tuesday.
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Deelnemer, waarvandaan jouw interesse in Oekraine en afwezigheid in de Irak, Syrie en Israel-Palestijn topics?
  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 23:45:32 #25
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Up to 50 people killed in Kramatorsk during ATO - city council

Twenty-two people still remain hospitalized in Kramatorsk after being injured as a result of an anti-terrorist operation (ATO) conducted by Ukrainian government forces, the city council said on Tuesday.

"As a result of the ATO (Anti-Terrorist Operation) 142 injured people went through hospitals in Kramatorsk. Twenty-two of them are still in hospital," head of the City Health Care Department Ihor Mykhailov was quoted as saying.

Roughly, up to 50 people have been killed, 80% of them civilians, he said.

"As for those killed, only forensic experts, police and prosecutors can know the exact figure," Mykhailov said.
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