Crisis in Oekraïne #63 Rusland is een tankstation.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 12:28 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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Wat is je bedoeling precies, de boel zo ver onder spammen dat mensen geloven in je propaganda over het "grote neofascistisch gevaar"?. Rusland zijn de grootste fascisten als je bekijkt dat ze land ingenomen hebben en de tartaren willen deporteren.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 12:28 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
de tartaren willen deporteren.

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Yanukovych recants on Crimea

Ukraine's ousted president, Viktor Yanukovych, said Wednesday that he was "wrong" to invite Russian troops into Crimea, and vowed to try to persuade Russia to return the Black Sea peninsula.

In his first interview since fleeing to Russia in February, Yanukovych said he hopes to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin to return the region he annexed in March.

Yanukovych, speaking to The Associated Press and Russia's state NTV television, called Russia's annexation of Crimea "a tragedy."

He fled Ukraine in February after three months of protests against his rule.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 16:20 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/wo(...)tervention-1.2595201

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EU, US vow to help wean Ukraine off Russian gas

The United States and European Union on Wednesday sought ways to reduce the political clout Russia gets from its vast energy reserves by promising to wean Ukraine and the rest of the continent off those supplies.

In the wake of Russia’s annexation of the Crimean Peninsula, Europe’s dependency on Russian energy became a political liability as it undermined its ability to stand up to Moscow. Cutting those supplies could cripple the fragile economies of Ukraine and Europe.

“It really boils down to this: no nation should use energy to stymie a people’s aspirations,” U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said during a visit to Brussels. “So we are taking important steps today in order to make it far more difficult for people to deploy that tool.”

The most immediate concern is cash-strapped Ukraine, which relies on Russian energy imports. The risk of that was highlighted Tuesday, when Moscow increased sharply the price of gas it sells to Ukraine and threatened to reclaim billions in unpaid gas bills.

Kerry said the U.S. and EU will seek to provide Ukraine gas through Poland, Hungary and Slovakia.

That will provide only mild relief in the short term, however. Even if gas can be redirected from EU nations in technically complicated maneuvers to meet immediate needs, it would only amount to relatively small quantities.

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The greater hope is that in the medium-term, Ukraine might build up its own energy production capacity, including the extraction of shale gas, which is criticized as excessively polluting in much of the EU.

Beyond Ukraine, Kerry also insisted that the EU should reduce its energy dependence. And there, the role of the United States could be critical.

The U.S, because of its use of shale gas extraction over the past years, has already turned into a potential exporter of liquefied natural gas and is looking to make its first deliveries in 2015.

At the moment, largely because of cheap gas from Russia, Europe is using only about 20 percent of the capacity of its LNG import terminals, and could take in large amounts of U.S. exports once U.S. facilities to ship it are fully operational.

With LNG, the U.S. could theoretically make up for half of Europe’s gas flows coming from Russia.

Europe could also try to get more natural gas from Asia through pipelines crossing Azerbaijan and Turkey instead of over Russian soil.

Russia, though, would think twice before relying on energy as a weapon.

Russian exports to the EU, dominated by oil and gas, totaled 213 billion euros in 2012 ($294 billion at current prices). The 28-nation EU is by far the largest export market for gas and a very substantial source of foreign exchange earnings.

Even if the EU has no reasonable alternative to Russian gas in the short term, Moscow wouldn’t have a good alternative market for its gas either.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 17:26 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
Het was pas geleden in het nieuws over dat tartaren moesten vertrekken onder het mom van de aanleg van infrastructuur. Alweer vergeten meth en sadpanda??

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 17:27 schreef SadPanda het volgende:

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Ja ik heb dat niet gezien. Graag een bron dus.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 17:26 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
Het was pas geleden in het nieuws over dat tartaren moesten vertrekken onder het mom van de aanleg van infrastructuur. Alweer vergeten meth en sadpanda??

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 18:19 schreef theNull het volgende:
Is er al wat meer bekend over die (gedeeltelijke) terugtrekken van russische troepen? Ik las op twitter dat de navo binnen enkele dagen Oekraïne binnen valt?

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 18:21 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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dacht dat de NAVO wat troepenbeweging had gezien, 500 man of zo, maar waar die naartoe gingen was niet duidelijk. En je moet niet alles op twitter geloven.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 18:20 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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Onteigeningen heb je ook in Nederland. Voor zover ik me herinner ging het om Tataren die zich op land gevestigd hadden dat niet hun eigendom was, en die toestand zou geregulariseerd worden, behalve in een gebied nabij Simferopol, in de buurt van een afslag, daar werd infrastructuur gepland en voor hen zou men ander stukken land zoeken waar ze zich konden vestigen.

Of die beloften nagekomen worden weet ik niet, maar de boodschap die de regering wilde geven was dat de toestand van Tataren die illegaal land hadden ingenomen zou geregulariseerd worden. Dat de woordvoerder daar één uitzondering aan toevoegde was dom, want daar focuste de buitenlandse media op.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 18:28 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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alsof een indianenreservaat verdwijnt dus. Die krimtartaren zijn de oorspronkelijke bewoners, niet die nep russen.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 19:47 schreef Woestijnvos het volgende:

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Nee dat zijn ze niet ze zijn daar gekomen dankzij de Mongolen.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 18:28 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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alsof een indianenreservaat verdwijnt dus. Die krimtartaren zijn de oorspronkelijke bewoners, niet die nep russen.

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"We are planning to build two steam electric power plants in the near future… We hope that Crimea will become a huge construction site. The example of Sochi inspires us…," Crimean First Deputy Prime Minister Rustam Temirgaliev told the RIA Novosti news agency on Tuesday.

If all goes well, Simferopol could, in Temirgaliev’s view, host some of the FIFA World Cup matches in 2018.

Speaking about Crimean Tatars, he said that part of them, especially aged people, were wary of Russia due to the deportation of Crimean Tatars in 1944. About half of the Crimean Tatars did not survive the deportation.

"We understand their concerns," Temirgaliev said. "But we are opening a new Russia to Crimean Tatars, a multi-ethnic state that supports all its peoples and nationalities irrespective of their traditions or culture. Look at the Muslim regions of Tatarstan, Ingushetia and Chechnya."

As for the land self-seized by Crimean Tatars over the past years, all the land plots will undergo legalization, but some areas crucial for infrastructure and urban development will have to be vacated, including part of self-seized plots near the detour road in Simferopol, he said.

The owners of those land plots will be offered land elsewhere, he added.

"Yesterday, we held talks with the leaders of the Majlis… Ilmi Ilyasov, a member of a local kurultai council, has been offered the post of vice speaker [in the Crimean parliament]. Zaur Smirnov, Majlis deputy chairman, may be appointed deputy prime minister… I think that Crimean Tatars will be appropriately represented in parliament," Temirgaliev concluded.

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'Russen in 3 dagen de baas in Oost-Oekraïne'

Het Russische leger aan de grens met Oekraïne is sterk genoeg voor een aanval. Als het bevel komt, dan kan de troepenmacht delen van Oost- en Zuid-Oekraïne in een paar dagen onder controle hebben. Daar heeft de Amerikaanse NAVO-bevelhebber Philip Breedlove voor gewaarschuwd.

„Dit is een erg grote, erg capabele en zeer parate legermacht”, aldus de generaal woensdag in een interview met persbureau Reuters. Volgens hem kan de troepenmacht van naar schatting 40.000 militairen zijn doelen in 3 tot 5 dagen hebben bereikt.

Breedlove zei dat in de nacht van dinsdag op woensdag kleine troepenverplaatsingen zijn gezien door de NAVO. Maar volgens de hoogste NAVO-commandant zijn er geen aanwijzingen dat die troepen zich terugtrekken naar de kazernes.

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Op woensdag 2 april 2014 20:21 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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But the Russian invasion force - if it is here - is very well camouflaged. As the fog lifted, murky shapes were revealed as trees, houses and old Lada cars. No tanks emerged from the gloom, no suspicious flights of helicopters passed overhead, and no green painted trucks rumbled down the roads.

In a 200 mile trip along the border region, the only Russian armour on display in this flat landscape was of a much older vintage, and stood on plinths in town squares.