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Het is hier misschien niet helemaal de plek ervoor, maar wat is dan het nuanceverschil tussen libertariër en libertarische conservatieveling? Is Rand Paul wel tegen het homohuwelijk en abortus bijvoorbeeld? Of gaat het meer om de minder radicale manier waarop hij zichzelf presenteert? Ik merk wel duidelijk dat hij een belangrijke rol speelt in het mediadebat over PRISM, aandacht waar hij misschien politiek ook weer van kan profiteren.

In dit verband vind ik het trouwens verbazingwekkend hoe Obama buiten schot lijkt te blijven vooralsnog. Of heb ik daar een verkeerde indruk van?
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 25 juni 2013 13:23 schreef gebrokenglas het volgende:
tomjanmeeus twitterde op dinsdag 25-06-2013 om 10:36:49 Snowden weet zóveel, zegt Witte Huis, dat ze een 'potentially devastating blow to U.S. national security' vrezen: http://t.co/LiCsnEMvx0 reageer retweet
Ehh, tsja ligt dat niet een beetje aan hunzelf?

Volgens msnbc: A 2012 report on security clearance determinations showed 4.9 million people had security clearance and, of those, 483,263 contractors hold top secret clearances.

Dat is wel een beetje veel mensen lijkt me, voor top secret. Dan is het ook niet bepaald top secret meer.
Interessant aan de tactiek van Snowden vind ik dat hij vooralsnog alleen informatie heeft gelekt over de aard en omvang van de surveillancepraktijken. Ik hoop dat hij die lijn vasthoudt, want het maakt aannemelijker dat het hem erom te doen is een publiek debat erover aan te zwengelen.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 25 juni 2013 13:26 schreef Claudia_x het volgende:
Het is hier misschien niet helemaal de plek ervoor, maar wat is dan het nuanceverschil tussen libertariër en libertarische conservatieveling? Is Rand Paul wel tegen het homohuwelijk en abortus bijvoorbeeld? Of gaat het meer om de minder radicale manier waarop hij zichzelf presenteert? Ik merk wel duidelijk dat hij een belangrijke rol speelt in het mediadebat over PRISM, aandacht waar hij misschien politiek ook weer van kan profiteren.

In dit verband vind ik het trouwens verbazingwekkend hoe Obama buiten schot lijkt te blijven vooralsnog. Of heb ik daar een verkeerde indruk van?
Libertariërs nemen geen vast standpunt in wat betreft abortus. De meeste libertariërs zijn voor abortus en het homohuwelijk. Als ik me niet vergis wil Rand Paul het aan de staten overlaten (States' Rights), maar hij is vanwege zijn christelijke achtergrond zelf een tegenstander van beide punten.

En inderdaad, hij profileert zich minder radicaal als zijn stricte libertarische vader, wat hem zeker zal helpen in de toekomst.
  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 13:46:30 #104
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De VS is verbolgen op Rusland en China.

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bron: nos

VS denkt de alleenheerser te zijn in de wereld en dat iedereen naar haar pijpen moet dansen.

Maar volgens mij heeft China nog een vraag uitstaan over die afluisterpraktijken... :7
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Interessant aan de tactiek van Snowden vind ik dat hij vooralsnog alleen informatie heeft gelekt over de aard en omvang van de surveillancepraktijken. Ik hoop dat hij die lijn vasthoudt, want het maakt aannemelijker dat het hem erom te doen is een publiek debat erover aan te zwengelen.
Ik vind het vooral jammer dat in de media het verhaaltje steeds probeert op te schuiven van PRISM naar Snowden en wat hij dan allemaal wel of niet weet of publiekelijk zou kunnen maken en uit welke motieven hij dat wel of niet zou doen.

Ik denk eigenlijk dat de journalisten van The Guardian/The Washington Post bewust het vaag hebben gehouden om zo gaandeweg wat meer vrij te kunnen geven en het verhaal levend te houden in plaats dat je alles in een keer vrijgeeft en iedereen twee weken lang schande van spreekt en weer doorgaat met waar men mee bezig was.

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Ik vind het vooral jammer dat in de media het verhaaltje steeds probeert op te schuiven van PRISM naar Snowden en wat hij dan allemaal wel of niet weet of publiekelijk zou kunnen maken en uit welke motieven hij dat wel of niet zou doen.
Is ook zo. Je ziet dat ook gebeuren met de journalist van The Guardian, Greenwald. Die wordt nu ook flink aangepakt, met name door andere journalisten. Op de persoon spelen is een handige afleidingsmanoeuvre. Daarom verbaast het me des te meer dat Obama buiten schot blijft. Misschien is het ook weer niet heel verrassend, aangezien critici vooral het inhoudelijke debat over PRISM willen voeren en diegenen die belangen te verdedigen hebben uithalen naar personen (en ook andere naties). Maar van journalisten zou je toch meer verwachten.
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  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 14:09:15 #107
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Demonizing Edward Snowden: Which Side Are You On? : The New Yorker



As I write this, a bunch of reporters are flying from Moscow to Havana on an Aeroflot Airbus 330, but Edward Snowden isn’t sitting among them. His whereabouts are unknown. He might still be in the V.I.P. lounge at Sheremetyevo International Airport. He could have left on another plane. There are even suggestions that he has taken shelter in the Ecuadorian Embassy in Moscow.

What we do know is that, on this side of the Atlantic, efforts are being stepped up to demonize Snowden, and to delegitimize his claim to be a conscientious objector to the huge electronic-spying apparatus operated by the United States and the United Kingdom. “This is an individual who is not acting, in my opinion, with noble intent,” General Keith Alexander, the head of the National Security Agency, told ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday. “What Snowden has revealed has caused irreversible and significant damage to our country and to our allies.” Over on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Senator Dianne Feinstein, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said, “I don’t think this man is a whistle-blower… he could have stayed and faced the music. I don’t think running is a noble thought.”

An unnamed senior Administration official joined the Snowden-bashing chorus, telling reporters, “Mr. Snowden’s claim that he is focussed on supporting transparency, freedom of the press, and protection of individual rights and democracy is belied by the protectors he has potentially chosen: China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, and Ecuador. His failure to criticize these regimes suggests that his true motive throughout has been to injure the national security of the U.S., not to advance Internet freedom and free speech.”

It is easy to understand, though not to approve of, why Administration officials, who have been embarrassed by Snowden’s revelations, would seek to question his motives and exaggerate the damage he has done to national security. Feinstein, too, has been placed in a tricky spot. Tasked with overseeing the spooks and their spying operations, she appears to have done little more than nod.

More unnerving is the way in which various members of the media have failed to challenge the official line. Nobody should be surprised to see the New York Post running the headline: “ROGUES’ GALLERY: SNOWDEN JOINS LONG LIST OF NOTORIOUS, GUTLESS TRAITORS FLEEING TO RUSSIA.” But where are Snowden’s defenders? As of Monday, the editorial pages of the Times and the Washington Post, the two most influential papers in the country, hadn’t even addressed the Obama Administration’s decision to charge Snowden with two counts of violating the Espionage Act and one count of theft.

If convicted on all three counts, the former N.S.A. contract-systems administrator could face thirty years in jail. On the Sunday-morning talk shows I watched, there weren’t many voices saying that would be an excessive punishment for someone who has performed an invaluable public service. And the person who did aggressively defend Snowden’s actions, Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian blogger who was one of the reporters to break the story, found himself under attack. After suggesting that Greenwald had “aided and abetted” Snowden, David Gregory, the host of NBC’s “Meet the Press,” asked, “Why shouldn’t you, Mr. Greenwald, be charged with a crime?”

After being criticized on Twitter, Gregory said that he wasn’t taking a position on Snowden’s actions—he was merely asking a question. I’m all for journalists asking awkward questions, too. But why aren’t more of them being directed at Hayden and Feinstein and Obama, who are clearly intent on attacking the messenger?

To get a different perspective on Snowden and his disclosures, here’s a portion of an interview that ABC—the Australian Broadcasting Company, not the Disney subsidiary—did today with Thomas Drake, another former N.S.A. employee, who, in 2010, was charged with espionage for revealing details about an electronic-eavesdropping project called Trailblazer, a precursor to Operation Prism, one of the programs that Snowden documented. (The felony cases against Drake, as my colleague Jane Mayer has written, eventually collapsed, and he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor.)

INTERVIEWER: Not everybody thinks Edward Snowden did the right thing. I presume you do…

DRAKE: I consider Edward Snowden as a whistle-blower. I know some have called him a hero, some have called him a traitor. I focus on what he disclosed. I don’t focus on him as a person. He had a belief that what he was exposed to—U.S. actions in secret—were violating human rights and privacy on a very, very large scale, far beyond anything that had been admitted to date by the government. In the public interest, he made that available.

INTERVIEWER: What do you say to the argument, advanced by those with the opposite viewpoint to you, especially in the U.S. Congress and the White House, that Edward Snowden is a traitor who made a narcissistic decision that he personally had a right to decide what public information should be in the public domain?

DRAKE: That’s a government meme, a government cover—that’s a government story. The government is desperate to not deal with the actual exposures, the content of the disclosures. Because they do reveal a vast, systemic, institutionalized, industrial-scale Leviathan surveillance state that has clearly gone far beyond the original mandate to deal with terrorism—far beyond.

As far as I’m concerned, that about covers it. I wish Snowden had followed Drake’s example and remained on U.S. soil to fight the charges against him. But I can’t condemn him for seeking refuge in a country that doesn’t have an extradition treaty with the United States. If he’d stayed here, he would almost certainly be in custody, with every prospect of staying in a cell until 2043 or later. The Obama Administration doesn’t want him to come home and contribute to the national-security-versus-liberty debate that the President says is necessary. It wants to lock him up for a long time.

And for what? For telling would-be jihadis that we are monitoring their Gmail and Facebook accounts? For informing the Chinese that we eavesdrop on many of their important institutions, including their prestigious research universities? For confirming that the Brits eavesdrop on virtually anybody they feel like? Come on. Are there many people out there who didn’t already know these things?

Snowden took classified documents from his employer, which surely broke the law. But his real crime was confirming that the intelligence agencies, despite their strenuous public denials, have been accumulating vast amounts of personal data from the American public. The puzzle is why so many media commentators continue to toe the official line. About the best explanation I’ve seen came from Josh Marshall, the founder of T.P.M., who has been one of Snowden’s critics. In a post that followed the first wave of stories, Marshall wrote, “At the end of the day, for all its faults, the U.S. military is the armed force of a political community I identify with and a government I support. I’m not a bystander to it. I’m implicated in what it does and I feel I have a responsibility and a right to a say, albeit just a minuscule one, in what it does.”

I suspect that many Washington journalists, especially the types who go on Sunday talk shows, feel the way Marshall does, but perhaps don’t have his level of self-awareness. It’s not just a matter of defending the Obama Administration, although there’s probably a bit of that. It’s something deeper, which has to do with attitudes toward authority. Proud of their craft and good at what they do, successful journalists like to think of themselves as fiercely independent. But, at the same time, they are part of the media and political establishment that stands accused of ignoring, or failing to pick up on, an intelligence outrage that’s been going on for years. It’s not surprising that some of them share Marshall’s view of Snowden as “some young guy I’ve never heard of before who espouses a political philosophy I don’t agree with and is now seeking refuge abroad for breaking the law.”

Mea culpa. Having spent almost eighteen years at The New Yorker, I’m arguably just as much a part of the media establishment as David Gregory and his guests. In this case, though, I’m with Snowden—not only for the reasons that Drake enumerated but also because of an old-fashioned and maybe naïve inkling that journalists are meant to stick up for the underdog and irritate the powerful. On its side, the Obama Administration has the courts, the intelligence services, Congress, the diplomatic service, much of the media, and most of the American public. Snowden’s got Greenwald, a woman from Wikileaks, and a dodgy travel document from Ecuador. Which side are you on?

Bron: www.newyorker.com
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  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 15:22:20 #108
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How much damage has Prism done to US tech giants? – Telegraph Blogs


By Willard Foxton Tech business Last updated: June 24th, 2013

The fallout from the Prism leak continues. As people digest what the leaks mean, ripples are going out into the business community. Firms were moving towards free, American, reliable cloud-based services; now things are screeching to a halt, as they think "do we want the NSA having access to this?"

It's more than just idle fear. Newspapers using cloud-based email systems have started communicating with confidential sources using other means. Of course, that throws up problems of its own, as the using of email encryption or anonymising software like Tor automatically marks you as higher risk in the NSA's calculations.

Firms which guarantee client confidentiality – doctors and lawyers, for example – have genuine worries about what could or could not be read. Law firms who regularly end up suing governments are especially worried. New details from the Snowden leaks says that the NSA routinely violates attorney client privilege if "foreign intelligence" is contained within. Even if the NSA doesn't actually end up reading the text of your emails, if you deal with anyone they are watching, you end up on a watch list – which is a recipe for airport harassment all over the world.

Silicon Valley is seen to be too close to the American security services. For example, when Facebook's chief of security left the social media giant, he went straight to work at the NSA. When big tech firms buy up their smaller rivals, they are keen to make deals with the state to improve intelligence access to those services. For example, since Skype was bought by Microsoft, its officials have refused to confirm Skype's original claim that calls can't be tapped, and have updated their privacy policies to demonstrate that they "cooperate with law enforcement as is legally required and technically feasible".

This doesn't just worry lawyers and journalists, it worries the tech industry itself, too. Firms like Amazon, Dropbox and Rackspace have bet the farm on secure, easily accessible cloud storage, and now the NSA looks like pulling the rug out from under them. Firms across Europe – like the French state-funded "Sovereign Cloud" – are looking to make a killing, exploiting the fears businesses have. Many IT professionals would rather have, say, French intelligence reading their data than US intelligence. For example, Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer at internet security company F-Secure, said to CNBC "If you are going to have a Big Brother, I'd much rather have a domestic Big Brother than a foreign Big Brother."

Perhaps the hardest hit is Canadian phone manufacturer RIM, who make the Blackberry phone. One of the last things going for the struggling firm was the perceived security of the Blackberry handset, and particularly the BBM instant messaging system. However, following on from the allegation last week in the Guardian that British intelligence was regularly "Penetrating the security on [G20] delegates' BlackBerrys to monitor their messages and phone calls", rivals to Blackberry in the secure messaging market have seen sales surge.

Redact, a small British firm that makes an allegedly unhackable secure messaging app, tell me their sales have gone up 400 per cent since the Guardian story on Monday. Obviously, they're flogging a product, but other firms are reporting similar effects – for example, anonymous search engine DuckDuckGo has reported huge traffic surges too. People all over the world are worried about the NSA and their links with Silicon valley – and that if European firms move quickly in this febrile environment around US spying, they might be able to steal a march on their previously untouchable rivals.

Bron: blogs.telegraph.co.uk
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  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 15:34:30 #109
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'Meet the Press' Pundit With Financial Ties to NSA Misleadingly Slams Snowden | The Nation

Investigating the intersection of politics, lobbying and public policy.

On Meet the Press yesterday, shortly after host host David Gregory stunned many by suggesting that The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald should face prosecution, a roundtable of pundits discussed the unfolding Edward Snowden story. Mike Murphy, one of the Meet the Press pundits, mocked Snowden’s attempt to seek asylum, calling him a “so-called whistleblower,” and charging that “it’s never been easier in human history to be a whistleblower” through official means.

There are problems here with both the messenger and the message.

First, the message. In fact, the Obama administration has one of the worst records of any president’s in terms of prosecuting leaks and whistleblowers. Moreover, Snowden had virtually no legal protections as a member of an intelligence agency contractor (Booz Allen Hamilton). In These Times reported that “as part of last year’s Whistleblower’s Protection Enhancement Act, rights for whistleblowers were enhanced for many categories of federal employees, but intelligence employees were excluded from coverage under the act. Likewise, intelligence workers—both federal and contract employees—were excluded from whistle blower protections offered to military contract employees under the most recent National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).”

But Murphy himself has a stake in this debate that arguably ought to have been disclosed. Though Murphy was introduced only as a “Republican strategist,” he is also the founding partner of Navigators Global, a lobbying firm that represents one of the NSA’s largest contractors. Disclosures show that Navigators Global represents Computer Sciences Corp. (CSC) on issues before Congress. For at least a decade, CSC has won major contracts from the National Security Agency (NSA). Murphy’s firm has lobbied on behalf of CSC for bills that would expand the NSA’s reach, including the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act or CISPA, which passed the House of Representatives earlier this year. As the Center for Democracy and Technology noted, the “legislation is being billed as an expansion of a collaboration between the National Security Agency (NSA) and major ISPs dubbed the Defense Industrial Base Pilot.”

As Americans continue to debate the revelations raised by Snowden, few lawmakers have raised the potential for abuse when powerful spy technology is outsourced to private contractors. Rather than focusing on the issue of the sprawling surveillance state or its legions of private contractors, many in the media seem intent on only discussing the personality or motives of Edward Snowden. While Murphy’s misleading assertion about whistleblower protections was challenged briefly by NBC’s Chuck Todd, his claim obscures the facts of the story.

Though Meet the Press has a strong reputation for confronting politicians with tough questions, often the show has trouble with disclosure, particularly in terms of revealing the private sector ties of their guests. For instance, Harold Ford, a regular Meet the Press pundit and a frequent voice for corporate-friendly policies, has served in various roles in the finance industry, with Bank of America and now with Morgan Stanley. He has used his perch on the show to criticize the Occupy movement and, more recently, to warn the Obama campaign against attacking Mitt Romney’s private equity record. Yet transcripts show that Ford is almost always introduced not as a Wall Street executive but as a “former Congressman.” Similarly, Murphy is almost always introduced as a “Republican strategist” without mention of his lobbying firm or its clients.

Bron: www.thenation.com
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Kamp Snowden.
  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 15:43:11 #111
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Damn, dacht even dat David Gregory banden met de NSA had. Too good to be true... ;(
  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 17:10:05 #113
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Kamp Snowden.
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  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 19:52:22 #114
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Kon een lach niet onderdrukken.

FullertonImages twitterde op dinsdag 25-06-2013 om 19:50:57 Holy crap, #Verizon service has been terrible lately. The #NSA must be bogging down the network... reageer retweet
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  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 20:00:52 #115
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Zoals je misschien weet verzorgt de NOS meerdere nieuwsuitzendingen op een dag, of iets wat daarvoor door moet gaan. Als je dan de formulering "De Amerikaanse regering heeft bevestigd dat het Syrische regime chemische wapens heeft gebruikt.." of woorden van gelijke strekking gebruikt in het ochtendjournaal op televisie dan zegt dat heel veel over het denkraam van degene die dat uit zijn toetsenbord of mond krijgt. Dat er dan in andere, uitgebreidere, uitzendingen wordt genuanceerd doet daar niet aan af.
Tja, daar kan ik zonder bron niets mee. Zou bijvoorbeeld zo maar kunnen zijn dat de vooringenomen weerstand tegen de NOS van jouw kant als resultaat heeft dat jouw verslag van de verslaggeving van de NOS niet geheel waarheidsgetrouw is... Of het is een nieuwsflits geweest vlak nadat de VS met dit nieuws kwam en er op dat moment nog geen reacties van andere partijen waren. Kan ook en ook dan is er niets mis mee.

Feit is iniedergeval dat de NOS op http://nos.nl/audio/51850(...)en-de-oppositie.html keurig netjes de visies van de verschillende partijen aan bod laat komen. Niets mis mee.
  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 20:03:30 #116
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Eigenlijk moet je er maar vanuit gaan dat de NSA en GCHQ overal taps heeft zitten. Vast ook in de AMS-IX.

De PRISM backdoors voor de unencrypted toegang tot je mailtjes en je google calendar (want maar lastig, die SSL sessies), en probes in de backbones voor alle overige data.

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't Scheelt ook weer: hoeven ze de ISP's niet steeds lastig te vallen met requests voor data, die hebben ze zelf al. Ook voor eventuele foute posts op bv Fok hoeven ze Danny niet meer te bellen voor de ipnummers.
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As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
  dinsdag 25 juni 2013 @ 21:42:49 #118
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Het fanatisch stoppen van lekken was de reden dat Nixon moest aftreden. De geheimen van de oorlog in Cambodia konden het daglicht niet verdragen.

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Het is echt triest gesteld met de journalistiek.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
  woensdag 26 juni 2013 @ 07:44:49 #122
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Tsja. Maar dat wisten ze natuurlijk allang.
Ze willen gewoon alles weten van iedereen. That's all.

't Is ook, als land zijnde, handig om alles van een ander te weten voor bijvoorbeeld de internationale bedrijfsvoering (zie airbus - boeing), en misschien zelfs tbv Wall Street.

Kennis is macht.

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  woensdag 26 juni 2013 @ 13:45:01 #123
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Er is een beweging die het gebruikelijke machtsspel niet meer accepteert. Dit verklaart de juridische processen tegen Pinochet, Ríos Montt en het boek " The Trials Of Henry Kissinger". De bevolking wordt altijd met een kluitje in het riet gestuurd en beseft nauwelijks hoe de realpolitiek werkt. Er is daarom veel dat het daglicht niet kan verdragen. Om te achterhalen wat er zich achter de schermen afspeelt zijn lekken nodig (denk bvb aan wikileaks).

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Terrorists try changes after Snowden leaks, official says
By Barbara Starr

The U.S. intelligence community says terrorists are trying to change the way they communicate because of what they learned from Edward Snowden's admitted leaks of classified information about government surveillance programs.

"We can confirm we are seeing indications that several terrorist groups are in fact attempting to change their communications behaviors based specifically on what they are reading about our surveillance programs in the media," a U.S. intelligence official told CNN.

He emphasized these are terrorist groups operating outside the United States and are not limited to al Qaeda affiliates.

Intelligence has been gathered on both Sunni and Shia groups, he said, noting the risk to national security is that the groups "go dark" in terms of the U.S. ability to listen to them and watch them until it can "reacquire them" through new means.

As for whether that poses an immediate threat to national security, "I am not telling you people are dying, I am telling you terrorists are already trying to change their behavior," he said.

As the U.S. intelligence community tries to determine what damage Snowden may have caused national security, one assumption is underpinning the US analysis: The belief that China copied and read whatever documents he had in Hong Kong.

"That's a safe assumption. That's where people are starting on this," said one administration official with knowledge of the "damage assessment" review. "Given his stay in Hong Kong and the number of days he was there, the assumption has to be everything he had was compromised."

The official didn't dismiss the notion that Russia may have done the same thing.

But it's not clear what material from the leaks of classified information about National Security Agency telephone and e-mail surveillance programs Snowden may have taken from Hong Kong to Moscow, or what he may have been forced to leave behind.

U.S. and Russian intelligence services are communicating on the Snowden matter, but the official declined to offer any details.

The assessment on how much damage Snowden's leaks of information, including leaks to the Guardian and the Washington Post this month could last for months, the official said.

"We may not have a full handle yet on everything he has," he said.

Separately, a second, senior U.S. intelligence official agreed.

"We are trying to figure out the totality of what may have been compromised," that official said.

He said the United States is "highly concerned that sources and methods could have been compromised" by Snowden based on his public statement he could access the names of U.S. intelligence personnel.

"It could lead to potentially grave damage," he said.

The United States is continuing to assess what documents he could have accessed and what he downloaded.

Beyond that, officials need to determine how many computers Snowden may have traveled with, the size of hard drives, and how much material they could handle.

They also are still trying to determine if some material was handed off to news media without Snowden keeping copies with him in Hong Kong.

"The greatest concern now is the unknown," the administration official told CNN. "What else might he have had access to, is there another shoe to drop?"

The worry is that Snowden, who was a contract NSA computer systems administrator, may have been able to access a wide range of material beyond that of his immediate job responsibilities.

The administration official also said the U.S. intelligence community is concerned Snowden may have established some type of "doomsday insurance," threatening to publicize an online link to all his material that everyone could access if he is taken into custody.

For each step of the assessment, the United States also has to determine further what the disclosures may have on the ability of terrorists to change tactics.

The administration official offered an example of one concern: Terrorists may be less inclined to communicate via "clean" e-mail accounts that have no links to them because they believe the U.S. government can track those.

When Snowden first admitted he was responsible for leaking information about the surveillance programs, he denied his motive was to harm the United States or aid China or an enemy of the United States.

"Anyone in the positions of access with the technical capabilities that I had could suck out secrets, pass them on the open market to Russia; they always have an open door as we do. I had access to the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all over the world. The locations of every station, we have what their missions are and so forth," he said.

"If I had just wanted to harm the U.S. You could shut down the surveillance system in an afternoon. But that's not my intention," he said.
Want terroristen hadden voor de onthullingen van Snowden nooit het vermoeden gehad dat ze misschien wel eens afgeluisterd konden worden :')?
  woensdag 26 juni 2013 @ 15:01:42 #125
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Ik wou dat ik een ijsbeer was.
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Het lijkt wel of men bij de inlichtingendiensten denkt dat Four Lions een documentaire is.
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