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Dat er geen procenten bij zijn geplaatst is reden genoeg voor mij om het met een stevige pot zout te nemen.quote:Op zaterdag 15 juni 2013 20:42 schreef HiZ het volgende:
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Eh, ik heb de crisis van 2001 uit eerste hand meegemaakt, was reden om weer in Nederland te gaan werken voor mij. Cijfers waaruit moet blijken dat het nu allemaal slechter is zou ik met een stevige pot zout nemen.
Het is natuurlijk ook een beetje een antwoord op het gebral van de AKP over het afbetalen van de schuld. Dat is net zo goed onzin. Het niet hebben van schuld is helemaal geen bewijs dat het goed gaat. Toen de Roemenen onder Caucescu honger leden was de staatsschuld nul.quote:
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Dat er geen procenten bij zijn geplaatst is reden genoeg voor mij om het met een stevige pot zout te nemen.
Dat is nu geloof ik ook aan het gebeurenquote:
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Dan krijg je toch gewoon die straatgevechten in de buurt eromheen? Dat gebeurt altijd bij grotere demonstraties; dan zie ik ook altijd groepen door mijn straat heenrennen met de politie erachteraan. En dan iets later gaat het weer terug richting plein.
Dat is de kop van Istiklal Caddesi, bij het begin van het plein. Het rechtergebouw is de culturele sectie van het Franse consulaat.quote:
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Dat is nu geloof ik ook aan het gebeuren
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Nederlands?quote:
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Ik woon deels hier, deels daar. Daar ongeveer 400 meter van het Gezi Park. Op dit moment ben ik in Nederland.
Bosphorus bridge is afgesloten en geen boot verkeer toegestaan om te voorkomen dat mensen van de aziatische kant naar de europese kant komen. In verschillende delen van Istanbul zouden nu mensen de straat opkomen, waaronder Besiktas.
Misschien hadden ze beter een dag kunnen wachten en het op zondag gedaan, aangezien maandag iedereen moet werken. Vandaag kan iedereen lekker lang opblijven
Misschien hadden ze beter een dag kunnen wachten en het op zondag gedaan, aangezien maandag iedereen moet werken. Vandaag kan iedereen lekker lang opblijven
twitter:bramvermeul twitterde op zaterdag 15-06-2013 om 21:15:57 Divan Hotel under siege, lots of teargas inside, many wounded, police warns to arrest anyone who comes out reageer retweet
Divan Hotel under siege, lots of teargas inside, many wounded, police warns to arrest anyone who comes out
Nou ja, dat ze de schuld van het IMF hebben afbetaald is geen onzin en op zich ook logisch dat ze het gebruiken voor politiek gewin.quote:
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Het is natuurlijk ook een beetje een antwoord op het gebral van de AKP over het afbetalen van de schuld. Dat is net zo goed onzin. Het niet hebben van schuld is helemaal geen bewijs dat het goed gaat. Toen de Roemenen onder Caucescu honger leden was de staatsschuld nul.
Neem nou bijvoorbeeld het eerste item van het lijstje. 2002: 125 miljard dollar schuld; 2010: 282 miljard dollar schuld. Dat is natuurlijk een enorme achteruitgang. Maar... als je het procentueel bekijkt ziet het er juist positief uit. 2002: 74%; 2010: 42,4% (Eurostat).
Niet alles is natuurlijk positief veranderd tijdens AKP. Waar ik heen wil is dat het een beetje te makkelijk is om zulke cijfers te posten zonder een relatieve vergelijking.
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22.18: [Bursa] In Bursa on FSM Boulevard, around 20,000 people are marching toward Heykel [statue].
22.12: [Istanbul] In Unkapanı, the people are marching and have blocked traffic. In Nişantaşı, the people are protesting the police invasion by banging on pots and pans. In Sarıyer, the people have begun to congregate at Büyükdere.
22.11: [Istanbul] In the Gazi Neighborhood the people's march has turned toward TEM. Thousands of people are calling out "Government Resign". Photo
22.10: [Istanbul] The General Secretary of the Istanbul Medical Chamber, Ali Çerkezoğlu, has called all doctors to Taksim.
22.10: [Adana] In Adana, thousands of people are marching from Atatürk Park to the AKP Building.
22.09: [Istanbul] The people of Üsküdar have gone into the streets with pots and pans.
22.08: [Hopa] People gathered in the city square in Hopa and Findikli. They are waiting for the ones that come from the neighbourhoods. "Taksim everywhere, resistance everywhere" slogans are shouted. They are making noise with pots and pans.
22.06: [Istanbul] People at Sarıyer Ömürtepe are chanting "Government Resign" with pans and pots nad walk towards Kireçburnu.
22.05: [Eskişehir] Thousands of people that gathered in Espark in Eskisehir are marching towards city centre
22.04: [Istanbul] At Kartal thousands of people are marching toward the E5 from the north and south. In Maltepe thousands of people are marching toward the E5.
22.03: [Istanbul] People of Alibeyköy are chanting "Government resign"
22.00: [geziradyo.org] Live from Istanbul with News (in English) - Stream
21.59: [Samsun] In the Atakum district at Türk-İş crossroad, people are on the streets with their pots and pans and making noise.
21.57: [Istanbul] Hundreds of people are putting up barricades in Taşkışla.
21.52: [Istanbul] On Istiklal Street police are using water cannons against the people. People are protesting with applause and cheers.
21.49: [Istanbul] The police are continuing their attacks at Harbiye, as people continue to go out into the streets in the Mecdiyeköy, Osmanbey areas. Conflicts are continuing in Maçka.
21.48: [Istanbul] Ferry transport has been halted at Kadiköy. The people at Taksim and Beşiktaş are trying to assist and harbor the resistors at Gezi Park by exchanging messages and addresses on social media.
21.46: [Istanbul] Crowd of people are gathering in Harbiye direction. Many people have been wounded due to the attack of the police.
21.40: [Antakya] Antakya Halkevi (leftist group) is calling the public to the Sevgi Direniş Park against the attack in Taksim.
21.41: [Istanbul] People at Kartal are preparing to walk to the E5 highway.
21.39: [Ankara] People of İlker has started to walk with 500 people.
21.37: [Istanbul] Women are blocking the road at Beşiktaş Akaretler.
21.35: [Istanbul] In Cihangir, residents with helmets and gas masks are entering the streets and moving towards Taksim and Gezi Park.
21.35: [Ankara] People of Seyranbağlar have started to walk from Maçka street.
21.34: [Istanbul] Istiklal street is shock full. "Everywhere is Taksim, everywhere is resistance" slogan is rising.
21.33: [Ankara] People of Mamak have gathered at Tuzluçayır Square. They are reacting against the attack at Taksim and Gezi Park.
21.32: [Istanbul] People of Okmeydan are walking towards Taksim Square against police attacks.
21.31: [Ankara] People of Keçiören has started to walk from Danişment.
21.31: [Istanbul] Police is removing the tents at Gezi Park. Sound of Pots and Pans are rising at Tarlabaşı and Galatasaray*
21.31: [Izmir] Upon the call of İzmir Gündoğdu Platform, people have started to gather in front of the Alsancak port.
21.30: [Adana] In Adana, there will be a gathering to protest the Taksim attacks at 22:00 in Atatürk Park.
21.30: [Istanbul] Police who has entered the Gezi Park are attacking the tents. In the meanwhile people at Boğazköy and Esenkent are in the streets with pans and pots.
21.29: [Istanbul] Police attack is going on. Resistance is continuing at Harbiye and Istiklal street.
21.28: [Istanbul] TMMOB's Infirmary is open at istiklal street.
21.26: [Istanbul] The people in Kardiköy started to gather at the Boğa due to the police attacks.
22.12: [Istanbul] In Unkapanı, the people are marching and have blocked traffic. In Nişantaşı, the people are protesting the police invasion by banging on pots and pans. In Sarıyer, the people have begun to congregate at Büyükdere.
22.11: [Istanbul] In the Gazi Neighborhood the people's march has turned toward TEM. Thousands of people are calling out "Government Resign". Photo
22.10: [Istanbul] The General Secretary of the Istanbul Medical Chamber, Ali Çerkezoğlu, has called all doctors to Taksim.
22.10: [Adana] In Adana, thousands of people are marching from Atatürk Park to the AKP Building.
22.09: [Istanbul] The people of Üsküdar have gone into the streets with pots and pans.
22.08: [Hopa] People gathered in the city square in Hopa and Findikli. They are waiting for the ones that come from the neighbourhoods. "Taksim everywhere, resistance everywhere" slogans are shouted. They are making noise with pots and pans.
22.06: [Istanbul] People at Sarıyer Ömürtepe are chanting "Government Resign" with pans and pots nad walk towards Kireçburnu.
22.05: [Eskişehir] Thousands of people that gathered in Espark in Eskisehir are marching towards city centre
22.04: [Istanbul] At Kartal thousands of people are marching toward the E5 from the north and south. In Maltepe thousands of people are marching toward the E5.
22.03: [Istanbul] People of Alibeyköy are chanting "Government resign"
22.00: [geziradyo.org] Live from Istanbul with News (in English) - Stream
21.59: [Samsun] In the Atakum district at Türk-İş crossroad, people are on the streets with their pots and pans and making noise.
21.57: [Istanbul] Hundreds of people are putting up barricades in Taşkışla.
21.52: [Istanbul] On Istiklal Street police are using water cannons against the people. People are protesting with applause and cheers.
21.49: [Istanbul] The police are continuing their attacks at Harbiye, as people continue to go out into the streets in the Mecdiyeköy, Osmanbey areas. Conflicts are continuing in Maçka.
21.48: [Istanbul] Ferry transport has been halted at Kadiköy. The people at Taksim and Beşiktaş are trying to assist and harbor the resistors at Gezi Park by exchanging messages and addresses on social media.
21.46: [Istanbul] Crowd of people are gathering in Harbiye direction. Many people have been wounded due to the attack of the police.
21.40: [Antakya] Antakya Halkevi (leftist group) is calling the public to the Sevgi Direniş Park against the attack in Taksim.
21.41: [Istanbul] People at Kartal are preparing to walk to the E5 highway.
21.39: [Ankara] People of İlker has started to walk with 500 people.
21.37: [Istanbul] Women are blocking the road at Beşiktaş Akaretler.
21.35: [Istanbul] In Cihangir, residents with helmets and gas masks are entering the streets and moving towards Taksim and Gezi Park.
21.35: [Ankara] People of Seyranbağlar have started to walk from Maçka street.
21.34: [Istanbul] Istiklal street is shock full. "Everywhere is Taksim, everywhere is resistance" slogan is rising.
21.33: [Ankara] People of Mamak have gathered at Tuzluçayır Square. They are reacting against the attack at Taksim and Gezi Park.
21.32: [Istanbul] People of Okmeydan are walking towards Taksim Square against police attacks.
21.31: [Ankara] People of Keçiören has started to walk from Danişment.
21.31: [Istanbul] Police is removing the tents at Gezi Park. Sound of Pots and Pans are rising at Tarlabaşı and Galatasaray*
21.31: [Izmir] Upon the call of İzmir Gündoğdu Platform, people have started to gather in front of the Alsancak port.
21.30: [Adana] In Adana, there will be a gathering to protest the Taksim attacks at 22:00 in Atatürk Park.
21.30: [Istanbul] Police who has entered the Gezi Park are attacking the tents. In the meanwhile people at Boğazköy and Esenkent are in the streets with pans and pots.
21.29: [Istanbul] Police attack is going on. Resistance is continuing at Harbiye and Istiklal street.
21.28: [Istanbul] TMMOB's Infirmary is open at istiklal street.
21.26: [Istanbul] The people in Kardiköy started to gather at the Boğa due to the police attacks.
Zal ik die foto weer weghalen?quote:
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Nou ja, dat ze de schuld van het IMF hebben afbetaald is geen onzin en op zich ook logisch dat ze het gebruiken voor politiek gewin.
Neem nou bijvoorbeeld het eerste item van het lijstje. 2002: 125 miljard dollar schuld; 2010: 282 miljard dollar schuld. Dat is natuurlijk een enorme achteruitgang. Maar... als je het procentueel bekijkt ziet het er juist positief uit. 2002: 74%; 2010: 42,4% (Eurostat).
Niet alles is natuurlijk positief veranderd tijdens AKP. Waar ik heen wil is dat het een beetje te makkelijk is om zulke cijfers te posten zonder een relatieve vergelijking.
Eskimo Joe
Mwah, zullen op zich geen leugens op staan. Je kunt 'm laten staan.quote:
. Jammer dat-ie niet zo compleet is (bronnen missen ook).
ISTANBUL - Hundreds of protestors that have sought shelter in the Divan Hotel are reportedly under attack by the police. The hotel has been turned into an infirmary, while everyone who leaves is arrested by the police. Tear gas is being shot at the hotel where dozens of wounded protesters are being treated by voluntary medics.
Eskimo Joe
twitter:Beltrew twitterde op zaterdag 15-06-2013 om 21:48:27 A LOT of gas, how much did they fire. Everyone choking, the air feels like it's on fire #taksim http://t.co/P1to06gyCx reageer retweet
A LOT of gas, how much did they fire. Everyone choking, the air feels like it's on fire
2 van de grootste vakbonden (KESK & DİSK) hebben opgeroepen tot een algemene staking in heel Turkije om te protesteren tegen het aanhoudende politie geweld
Degene die nu nog meent dat Erdogan democratisch isquote:
ISTANBUL - Hundreds of protestors that have sought shelter in the Divan Hotel are reportedly under attack by the police. The hotel has been turned into an infirmary, while everyone who leaves is arrested by the police. Tear gas is being shot at the hotel where dozens of wounded protesters are being treated by voluntary medics.
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Bram Vermeulen eindigde met de zin: "het protest is voorbij"
Dan kent hij het Turkse volk nog niet.
Dan kent hij het Turkse volk nog niet.
Eskimo Joe
Ah oke, Twitter hequote:
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Deze is niet van vandaag.
Wel heel erg natuurlijk.
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