The pirate bay nu gehost vanuit noord korea

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 19:51 schreef gogosweden het volgende:
ik kan hier wel een heel verhaal neerklappen, maar het valt hier te lezen:

https://thepiratebay.se/blog/229

voor de mensen die niet bij de piratebay kunnen heb ik hier nog een ander linkje:

http://torrentfreak.com/t(...)rtual-asylum-130304/

intressante wending wel

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:03 schreef BabeWatcher het volgende:
De Fantastische Leider was afgelopen jaar niet voor niets 'persoon v/h jaar'

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:07 schreef MilaNL het volgende:
TPB staat dus niet zo voor mensenrechten als ze claimen.

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:06 schreef erikkll het volgende:

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In noord korea

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:09 schreef gogosweden het volgende:

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ik denk dat als het waar is, dat ze mekaar in nood een beetje helpen.

Noord Korea heeft weer een publiciteitsstunt, en een manier om "FUCK YOU, 'MURICA" te zeggen. Terwijl de piraten even een tijdje een "veilige" haven hebben.

maarja, ze kunnen net zo goed het noord koreaanse IP spoofen ofzo, als een vroege 1april grap

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:10 schreef donald_dick het volgende:

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ook in Time's magazine!
http://www.nu.nl/opmerkel(...)man-of-the-year.html

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Opvallende derde zijn 'illegale immigranten'.

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:09 schreef gogosweden het volgende:

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ik denk dat als het waar is, dat ze mekaar in nood een beetje helpen.

Noord Korea heeft weer een publiciteitsstunt, en een manier om "FUCK YOU, 'MURICA" te zeggen. Terwijl de piraten even een tijdje een "veilige" haven hebben.

maarja, ze kunnen net zo goed het noord koreaanse IP spoofen ofzo, als een vroege 1april grap

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:14 schreef EugeneKrabs het volgende:
Leesvoer: http://sites.google.com/site/sophieinnorthkorea/home

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Looks great, right? All this activity, all those monitors. Probably 90 desks in the room, all manned, with an identical scene one floor up.

One problem: No one was actually doing anything. A few scrolled or clicked, but the rest just stared. More disturbing: when our group walked in--a noisy bunch, with media in tow--not one of them looked up from their desks. Not a head turn, no eye contact, no reaction to stimuli. They might as well have been figurines.

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:23 schreef EugeneKrabs het volgende:
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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:14 schreef EugeneKrabs het volgende:
Leesvoer: http://sites.google.com/site/sophieinnorthkorea/home

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Looks great, right? All this activity, all those monitors. Probably 90 desks in the room, all manned, with an identical scene one floor up.

One problem: No one was actually doing anything. A few scrolled or clicked, but the rest just stared. More disturbing: when our group walked in--a noisy bunch, with media in tow--not one of them looked up from their desks. Not a head turn, no eye contact, no reaction to stimuli. They might as well have been figurines.

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:10 schreef donald_dick het volgende:

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ook in Time's magazine!
http://www.nu.nl/opmerkel(...)man-of-the-year.html

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Leden van het internetforum 4Chan worden ervan verdacht de stemming te hebben gehackt.

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 21:11 schreef superdrufus het volgende:

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4chan

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Just a week after 4chan users voted North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un to the top of Time magazine's Person of the Year poll, a group of hackers related to 4chan managed to spell out "KJU GAS CHAMBERS" with the poll's top 14 names -- starting with Kim, Jon Stewart and Undocumented Immigrants.

According to a report from The Daily Dot, the poll manipulation scheme is the handiwork of a group of Internet Relay Chat (IRC) users, who used a Java script to manipulate the voting results.

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Revealed: the gas chamber horror of North Korea's gulag

A series of shocking personal testimonies is now shedding light on Camp 22 - one of the country's most horrific secrets

Antony Barnett
The Observer, Sunday 1 February 2004 00.49 GMT

In the remote north-eastern corner of North Korea, close to the border of Russia and China, is Haengyong. Hidden away in the mountains, this remote town is home to Camp 22 - North Korea's largest concentration camp, where thousands of men, women and children accused of political crimes are held.

Now, it is claimed, it is also where thousands die each year and where prison guards stamp on the necks of babies born to prisoners to kill them.

Over the past year harrowing first-hand testimonies from North Korean defectors have detailed execution and torture, and now chilling evidence has emerged that the walls of Camp 22 hide an even more evil secret: gas chambers where horrific chemical experiments are conducted on human beings.

Witnesses have described watching entire families being put in glass chambers and gassed. They are left to an agonising death while scientists take notes. The allegations offer the most shocking glimpse so far of Kim Jong-il's North Korean regime.

Kwon Hyuk, who has changed his name, was the former military attaché at the North Korean Embassy in Beijing. He was also the chief of management at Camp 22. In the BBC's This World documentary, to be broadcast tonight, Hyuk claims he now wants the world to know what is happening.

'I witnessed a whole family being tested on suffocating gas and dying in the gas chamber,' he said. 'The parents, son and and a daughter. The parents were vomiting and dying, but till the very last moment they tried to save kids by doing mouth-to-mouth breathing.'

Hyuk has drawn detailed diagrams of the gas chamber he saw. He said: 'The glass chamber is sealed airtight. It is 3.5 metres wide, 3m long and 2.2m high_ [There] is the injection tube going through the unit. Normally, a family sticks together and individual prisoners stand separately around the corners. Scientists observe the entire process from above, through the glass.'

He explains how he had believed this treatment was justified. 'At the time I felt that they thoroughly deserved such a death. Because all of us were led to believe that all the bad things that were happening to North Korea were their fault; that we were poor, divided and not making progress as a country.

'It would be a total lie for me to say I feel sympathetic about the children dying such a painful death. Under the society and the regime I was in at the time, I only felt that they were the enemies. So I felt no sympathy or pity for them at all.'

His testimony is backed up by Soon Ok-lee, who was imprisoned for seven years. 'An officer ordered me to select 50 healthy female prisoners,' she said. 'One of the guards handed me a basket full of soaked cabbage, told me not to eat it but to give it to the 50 women. I gave them out and heard a scream from those who had eaten them. They were all screaming and vomiting blood. All who ate the cabbage leaves started violently vomiting blood and screaming with pain. It was hell. In less than 20 minutes they were quite dead.'

Defectors have smuggled out documents that appear to reveal how methodical the chemical experiments were. One stamped 'top secret' and 'transfer letter' is dated February 2002. The name of the victim was Lin Hun-hwa. He was 39. The text reads: 'The above person is transferred from ... camp number 22 for the purpose of human experimentation of liquid gas for chemical weapons.'

Kim Sang-hun, a North Korean human rights worker, says the document is genuine. He said: 'It carries a North Korean format, the quality of paper is North Korean and it has an official stamp of agencies involved with this human experimentation. A stamp they cannot deny. And it carries names of the victim and where and why and how these people were experimented [on].'

The number of prisoners held in the North Korean gulag is not known: one estimate is 200,000, held in 12 or more centres. Camp 22 is thought to hold 50,000.

Most are imprisoned because their relatives are believed to be critical of the regime. Many are Christians, a religion believed by Kim Jong-il to be one of the greatest threats to his power. According to the dictator, not only is a suspected dissident arrested but also three generations of his family are imprisoned, to root out the bad blood and seed of dissent.

With North Korea trying to win concessions in return for axing its nuclear programme, campaigners want human rights to be a part of any deal. Richard Spring, Tory foreign affairs spokesman, is pushing for a House of Commons debate on human rights in North Korea.

'The situation is absolutely horrific,' Spring said. 'It is totally unacceptable by any norms of civilised society. It makes it even more urgent to convince the North Koreans that procuring weapons of mass destruction must end, not only for the security of the region but for the good of their own population.'

Mervyn Thomas, chief executive of Christian Solidarity Worldwide, said: 'For too long the horrendous suffering of the people of North Korea, especially those imprisoned in unspeakably barbaric prison camps, has been met with silence ... It is imperative that the international community does not continue to turn a blind eye to these atrocities which should weigh heavily on the world's conscience.'

·This World is being broadcast on BBC2 at 9pm tonight.

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:09 schreef NotYou het volgende:

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Boeien dat een hele bevolking onderdrukt, gehersenspoeld en uitgebuit wordt, als wij maar lekker auteursrechtelijk beschermd materiaal kunnen downloaden/distribueren zonder rechthebbenden daarvoor te betalen!

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 21:36 schreef Specularium het volgende:

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En met rechthebbenden bedoel je de platen- en filmmaatschappijen?

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 21:38 schreef NotYou het volgende:

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In veel gevallen zal dat ongetwijfeld zo zijn ja. Probeer je daar iets mee te zeggen?

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 21:35 schreef NotYou het volgende:

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/feb/01/northkorea

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 21:38 schreef NotYou het volgende:

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In veel gevallen zal dat ongetwijfeld zo zijn ja. Probeer je daar iets mee te zeggen?

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:03 schreef BabeWatcher het volgende:
De Fantastische Leider was afgelopen jaar niet voor niets 'persoon v/h jaar'

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:06 schreef erikkll het volgende:

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In noord korea

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:07 schreef MilaNL het volgende:
TPB staat dus niet zo voor mensenrechten als ze claimen.

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 19:57 schreef gogosweden het volgende:
De ironie eigenlijk he, ik vind het geweldig

popcorn tijden dit

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04. March 2013
The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake.
Will in Hosting

(Updated article with proof for the real hosting and how it was done is HERE.)

Something i stubled upon in the #lowendbox IRC: http://falkvinge.net/2013(...)ns-from-north-korea/

This is certainly interesting, however let me tell you: It is fake.
TBP is not hosted in North Korea (at least not now).

Why can i say this? It is actually pretty easy if you have an understanding of BGP and BGP transit links.

Let’s look at a traceroute to ThePirateBay (194.71.107.15):
(Shorted to one ping)

3 at-grz-lazg-pe02-vl-2084.upc.at (84.116.229.73) 15.597 ms -> Graz, Austria
4 at-vie15a-rd1-vl-2032.aorta.net (84.116.228.85) 18.448 ms -> Vienna, Austria
5 de-fra01a-rd3-xe-2-1-0.aorta.net (213.46.160.69) 18.414 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
6 84.116.132.174 (84.116.132.174) 16.739 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
7 xe-0.de-cix.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (80.81.192.46) 82.919 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
8 ae-1.r02.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.163) 21.954 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
9 xe-3-2.r00.dsdfge02.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.61) 20.299 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
10 213.198.77.122 (213.198.77.122) 20.850 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
11 * * *
12 xe-0-1-0-3.r02.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.62) 68.594 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
13 xe-0.level3.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.202) 72.588 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
14 vlan90.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.254) 154.316 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
15 ae-82-82.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.25) 152.129 ms -> Frankfurt, Germany
16 ae-61-61.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.66) 125.457 ms -> New York City, NY, USA
17 ae-21-70.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.155.67) 127.892 ms -> New York City, NY, USA
18 INTELSAT-IN.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.156.82.14) 176.317 ms -> New York City, NY, USA
19 209.159.170.215 (209.159.170.215) 199.726 ms -> New York City, NY, USA
20 * 202.72.96.6 (202.72.96.6) 694.793 ms -> Phenom Penh, Cambodia
21 * * 175.45.177.217 (175.45.177.217) 803.654 ms -> Pyongyang, North Korea
22 -> Dead.

Now we can start to make assumptions, in this case one is pretty easy:
Intelsat is US based, they are not allowed to deal with North Korea, directly or indirectly.

But let’s not get into legal issues here, but instead get some facts:
175.45.177.217 is undoubtly in North Korea, however just because it does respond to ping this does not mean anything.

If we trace directly to 175.45.177.217 from the same connection we can see an entirely different path:
(Some pings are out of the usual range due to UPCs/Aortas network technology)

3 at-grz-lazg-pe02-vl-2084.upc.at (84.116.229.73) 102.856 ms -> Graz, Austria
4 at-vie15a-rd1-vl-2032.aorta.net (84.116.228.85) 102.808 ms -> Vienna, Austria
5 uk-lon01b-rd1-xe-7-2-2.aorta.net (84.116.134.233) 102.759 ms -> London, UK
6 84-116-130-149.aorta.net (84.116.130.149) 99.572 ms -> London, UK
7 84.116.137.186 (84.116.137.186) 102.516 ms -> New York City, NY, USA
8 xe-8-3-0.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.78.164.221) 102.608 ms -> New York City, NY, USA
9 4.68.110.154 (4.68.110.154) 104.974 ms -> New York City, NY, USA
10 144.232.5.216 (144.232.5.216) 122.645 ms -> Inner USA
11 sl-crs1-akr-0-3-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.59) 125.216 ms -> Inner USA
12 144.232.1.73 (144.232.1.73) 134.073 ms -> Inner USA
13 144.232.11.17 (144.232.11.17) 173.316 ms -> Inner USA
14 144.232.12.41 (144.232.12.41) 173.479 ms -> Inner USA
15 144.232.7.124 (144.232.7.124) 174.502 ms -> Inner USA
16 sl-st20-sj-0-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.106) 172.708 ms -> San Jose, CA, USA
17 sl-china6-192107-0.sprintlink.net (144.223.242.82) 325.557 ms -> Shanghai, China
18 219.158.32.174 (219.158.32.174) 393.125 ms -> Pyongyang, North Korea
19 175.45.177.194 (175.45.177.194) 393.437 ms -> Pyongyang, North Korea

Now this should give anyone a second thought as the route is ENTIRELY different and does not use a sat link, it goes from EU to US to China, to North Korea.

Now lets look closer at the AS131279, aka Ryugyong-dong, aka STAR-KP – the sole ISP in North Korea, state owned of course.
AS131279 has one Upstream, AS4837 aka China Unicom which we see also in the real North Korean traceroute.

The AS also shows 2 other peers, AS22351 (Intelsat) and AS51040 (Piratpartiet Norge) – This would mean North Korea DOES provide connectivity to The Pirate Bay, right?
No.

Anyone can hijack an AS number and not cause any issues for the real user – In this case The Pirate Bay set up a Sat dish in Phenom Penh, Cambodia – Intelsat gives them a BGP session there.
The peer net for BGP handoff is 175.45.177.217/30, .216 is Intelsats side and .217 is The Pirate Bay’s.
One can use ANY IP they wish for these handoffs, internal, their own, “hijacked” – In this case The Pirate Bay “hijacked” 2 IPs from the North Korean network which does not matter for them as this is only acessible from their side, not from the internet.

TBP then injected AS131279 as peer in the upstream table – so it does not look like this:
AS22351 – AS51040
But instead:
AS22351 – AS131279 – AS51040

This is possible because either Intelsat does not filter BGP announcements (unlikely) or TBP wrote a fake LOA for this AS (likely).

Now as we traceroute the TBP IP we see the /30 subnet used for the handoff in Phenom Penh, which is why TPB says it is in North Korea – The ICMP (ping) reply from the IP makes it seem legit but does actually come from and entirely different network (aka the real Star-KP network).

(Theres some more but i spare you that as it is pretty technological – for example that AS131279 does not hand over AS51040 routes to AS4737).

Conclusion:
While it is one of the more advanced fake routings it is still pretty lame, a single drop to AS4737 (like a server in China with a BGP session) and it would look much more real, and much harder to detect.
I cannot certainly say where TPB is hosted now, but it must be Asia and it seems to be Phenom Penh, Cambodia as the ICMP replies after it are only minimal higher than there.

So far so good.
Farewell, ~W

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:18 schreef donald_dick het volgende:

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Je weet het niet daar, maar daar op vakantie gaan is 1 grote mindfuck

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Op dinsdag 5 maart 2013 18:51 schreef vipergts het volgende:

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ach als je een beetje nablijft denken heb je echt een geweldige tijd.

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Op dinsdag 5 maart 2013 11:07 schreef NotYou het volgende:

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https://rdns.im/the-pirate-bay-north-korean-hosting-no-its-fake
https://rdns.im/the-pirat(...)sting-no-its-fake-p2

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 20:14 schreef EugeneKrabs het volgende:
Leesvoer: http://sites.google.com/site/sophieinnorthkorea/home

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Looks great, right? All this activity, all those monitors. Probably 90 desks in the room, all manned, with an identical scene one floor up.

One problem: No one was actually doing anything. A few scrolled or clicked, but the rest just stared. More disturbing: when our group walked in--a noisy bunch, with media in tow--not one of them looked up from their desks. Not a head turn, no eye contact, no reaction to stimuli. They might as well have been figurines.

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Op maandag 4 maart 2013 23:05 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Ik geloof geen reet van dit verhaal. Je gaat je niet opstellen als voorvechter van het "vrije internet" en je vervolgens vestigen in de grootste dictatuur op de aardbol. Dan ben je echt totaal ongeloofwaardig.

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Op dinsdag 5 maart 2013 19:02 schreef donald_dick het volgende:

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Nou vertel, wat vond jij geweldig aan noord Korea

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Op dinsdag 5 maart 2013 19:24 schreef vipergts het volgende:

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Het ophemelen van de Grote Leider en de toen nog geliefde leider. Ze hebben daar een soort afsluitdijk en toen de dat ding aan het bouwen waren hadden ze wat problemen gelukkig voor de bouwers kwam Kim Jong Il net langs onderweg naar iets belangrijks en is hij gestopt hij heeft toen vanuit de auto wat advies gegeven en is weer verder gegaan met belangrijke staatszaken en nu staat dat ding er

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Op dinsdag 5 maart 2013 19:27 schreef EugeneKrabs het volgende:

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