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[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Frikandelbroodje op 29-12-2012 18:49:51 ]
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 28 december 2012 23:04 schreef Frikandelbroodje het volgende:

Thanks dude ^O^ Ga ik 'm meteen kijken.
Ik mag echt wel eens wat optimistischer zijn, en wat harder zoeken... :') :@
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Former revolutionaries joining state institutions

During Thursday’s press conference, Deputy Prime Minister Awad Al-Barasi reiterated the government’s support for the integration of former revolutionaries into the police and army, noting that all brigades would have to join these state institutions. In future, the existence of such brigades would be illegal.

Exactly when this will happen is still unsure. The head of the SSC in Tripoli, Hashim Bishar, said in October that the organisation would cease to exist by tomorrow, the end of the year. But since then Prime Minister Ali Zeidan has told the Libya Herald that it would still continue “for a while”. Nonetheless, many SCC members have been signing up to join the police and army, despite the fact that the pay in both organisations is lower than in the SSC.

Earlier this month it was announced that in just two days some 1,500 members of the SSC in Benghazi had applied to join the police there.

Since taking office, Interior Minister Ashour Shuwail has laid out clear plans to get the country’s security on track trough the collection of weapons, increased policing, the formation of a professional army and security forces. However, Shuwail’s immediate concern has been the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi.

The city, known as the cradle of the revolution, has become an epicentre of violence and targeted killings, particular after the death of US Ambassador Chris Stevens and more recently following the assassination of Benghazi’s police chief Faraj Drissi. The city’s police force has come under repeated attack leading to the death and injury of several police officers. This wave of lawlessness has been tied to attempts to release a suspect arrested in Drissi’s murder, as well as a show of force by armed groups beyond state control, generally believed to be extremists.

Friday’s “Save Benghazi Friday” protesters came out in support for the army and police, and to put an end to all militias. According to activist Bilal Bettamer, security forces were on hand to protect and direct the protest, and were greatly applauded for the role they played.

Bettamer was among those who organised “Rescue Benghazi”, a mass protest against armed groups that took place in the wake of the US consulate attack in the city. The lead organiser of the protest, Naji Hamad, narrowly escaped an attempt an his life earlier this month, however, the assault killed Hamad’s brother -in-law, Anees Al-Jahani.
Het artikel gaat verder

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0s.gif Op zaterdag 29 december 2012 17:55 schreef zuiderbuur het volgende:

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Ik mag echt wel eens wat optimistischer zijn, en wat harder zoeken... :') :@
Ach, ik heb 'm nu toch :P Ik was wel blij verrast dat er nog een flink stuk over Libië bij zat :) Jammer dat ze andere 'revolutielanden' zoals Jemen, Bahrain, Marokko etc ook niet bezoeken. De situatie daar weet ik over het algemeen wel van engelse/arabische sites, maar ik ben wel benieuwd hoe journalisten uit onze omgeving er dan tegenaan kijken.
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Nee hè :N

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Libya church blast kills two Egyptians

Tripoli (AFP) – An explosion rocked a Coptic church near the Libyan city of Misrata, killing two people and wounding two, all of them Egyptians, a diplomat told AFP on Sunday.

“Two men were killed and two others wounded,” said the diplomat at the Egyptian embassy in Tripoli who declined to be named, adding that it took place late Saturday but the embassy was only informed on Sunday.

“The blast was yesterday at 11:30 pm (2230 GMT) at the church of Mar Girgis (St. George) in the town of Dafniya in Misrata (province). We were informed at 6 am,” he said.

The embassy has dispatched the consul to Misrata to get details about the blast.

“We still don’t have clear information” about what caused it, the diplomat said.

But he added that, according to initial reports, the blast took place in an annexe of the church.

Earlier, a security official said the blast occurred on Sunday, killing an Egyptian and wounding three others.

“An investigation is now underway,” the security source said.

Another security source said the explosion struck “during prayers” but the embassy official could not confirm that a service was underway at the time.

Dafniya is a Mediterranean town 30 kilometres (20 miles) west of the city of Misrata, where brigades made up of former rebels hold a major checkpoint.

There were an estimated 1.5 million Egyptians living and working in Libya before the 2011 armed revolt that toppled Libyan dictator Moamer Gaddafi. About two-thirds left during the war but many returned in 2012.

Before the revolt Libya had a population of around 6.3 million – including some 1.5 million African immigrants many of whom fled during the fighting – that was 97 percent Muslim and only three percent Christian.

Christians in Libya are mostly expatriates, including migrant workers from neighbouring Egypt where Coptic Christians are the largest religious minority.

In August, the International Committee of the Red Cross shut its operations in Misrata, 180 kilometres (110 miles) east of the capital, after armed assailants laid siege to a staff residence.

Libya’s first elected authorities are keen to boost security but the fledgling army and police are often helpless in the face of well-armed militias made up of former rebels.

Extremism has become a source of growing concern in post-Gaddafi Libya, with several international agencies and diplomatic missions targeted this year by attacks blamed on radical Islamists.

The deadliest was a 11 September assault on the US consulate in second city Benghazi, which killed ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.
http://dailynewsegypt.com(...)kills-two-egyptians/
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  maandag 31 december 2012 @ 09:11:10 #5
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Er is maar 1 mogelijke oplossing voor de enorme chaos in Libie en dat is het installeren van Saif al Islam als leider, alleen hij kan de visie zoals verwoord in het groene boekje van zijn vader en de orde en stabiliteit in het land herstellen.

Zelfs een groot deel van de ex-rebellen hunkeren nog geen jaar na de door westerse terreur gesteunde opstand van Al-Quade gelieerde rebellen terug naar het stabiele en welvarende tijdperk Khadaffi. Ik hoop van harte dat Saif met een houdini truc ontsnapt en op de 1 of andere manier in het zadel komt om zo de erfenis van zijn vader in ere te herstellen. Hij heeft er het intellect, de capaciteit en gedrevenheid voor. Laten we het hopen, met name voor de arme mensen in Libie.
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Rise of the Libyan resistance

Although the U.S. is in denial, there is every reason to believe that it was Tahloob, a movement of pro-Qadhafi loyalists, that killed Ambassador Stevens
http://www.thehindu.com/o(...)e/article4051658.ece
  maandag 31 december 2012 @ 11:31:50 #7
124676 RobertoCarlos
Zit je nou naar me te loeruh?
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quote:
0s.gif Op maandag 31 december 2012 09:11 schreef BloodhoundFromHell het volgende:
Er is maar 1 mogelijke oplossing voor de enorme chaos in Libie en dat is het installeren van Saif al Islam als leider,
Dat zijn wel heel erg weinig mogelijkheden :P Hoe zie je dat 'installeren' van Saif voor je? Denk je niet dat daar heel veel geweld aan vooraf gaat tegen juist die arme mensen die jij wilt helpen?
Maar ik ben het wel met je eens dat de 1e prioriteit in Libie de veiligheid is, als je dat eigenlijk bedoelt. Maar er zijn natuurlijk wel meer mogelijkheden...
!!! Go 49-ers !!!
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Head of Libya’s Copts speaks out on Misrata killing

The head of the Coptic Church in Libya, Father Timothaus Bishara Adla, today condemned the bomb attack in the port city of Misrata that left two Egyptian Christians dead and several more wounded.

Father Timothaous Bishara Adly told the Libya Herald today that he visited Misrata yesterday to visit the church in Dafniya that was targeted by a bombing late on Saturday night, saying the families of those killed were facing a “very difficult situation.”

He said that the two men killed in the blast had been attending a service late on Saturday night in a building attached to the church when the bomb went off.

Members of the congregation present at the time of the attack told Adly that there was a “huge explosion”, which they thought had been caused by a bomb placed next to the building some time before. Adly, however, was keen to stress that the investigation into the attack was in its early stages, and that it was impossible to give more precise details at this time.

Adly said that the two victims of the attack were both male, and had been living and working in Libya with their families for some time.

Both men were married he said, and one, 42, had three young daughters who are also living in Libya. The second, he added, was 25 years old, and his wife was six months pregnant.

Adly said that the church, Saint George’s, was a focal point for the Coptic community in Misrata, and catered exclusively to Egyptian Christians, estimating that there are around 20,000 members of the church in Libya.

The attack seemed to have been totally unexpected, as Adly told the Libya Herald that there had ben “no threats at all against the churches here in Libya,” pointing out that “on the other hand, we had very good relations with Muslims here in Libya”.

Saturday marks the first attack specifically targeting a church in Libya since the revolution last year, and at the time of publication, it is not clear who was responsible for the bombing.

Officials from the Interior Minstry and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation had been in contact with the head of the church in Misrata, Father Marcus Zaghloul, Adly said, to condemn the “terrorist incident”, and had reassured him that they would launch an investigation into the attack immediately.

Adly said that the Egyptian ambassador in Tripoli, Hisham Abdul Hamid, had called for more security outside Libya’s Coptic churches, and the Egyptian foreign minister had also condemned the attack.
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Ongeveer 3% van de Libiërs zijn Christen.

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2s.gif Op maandag 31 december 2012 11:31 schreef RobertoCarlos het volgende:

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Dat zijn wel heel erg weinig mogelijkheden :P Hoe zie je dat 'installeren' van Saif voor je? Denk je niet dat daar heel veel geweld aan vooraf gaat tegen juist die arme mensen die jij wilt helpen?
Maar ik ben het wel met je eens dat de 1e prioriteit in Libie de veiligheid is, als je dat eigenlijk bedoelt. Maar er zijn natuurlijk wel meer mogelijkheden...
Hij is maar aan het trollen hoor :P
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Voor de geïnteresseerden:
http://www.canvas.be/prog(...)A13bae8811da%3A-7cda
Een bewerkte reportage :
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2012 was het jaar van de Arabische lente. Dictators werden van hun troon gestoten, het volk sprak, riep uit dat het anders moest. Het democratisch optimisme, de euforie van de eerste dagen maakte al snel plaats voor de realistische vaststelling dat democratie niet altijd een eenvoudige oefening is.
Met interviews met een aantal prominente geestelijken, en waarin op een gegeven moment een ploeg journalisten niet meer mag vertrekken van Syrische verzetsstrijders.
Wordt herhaald: Vrijdag 4 januari om 14u22, ,Zondag 6 januari om 18u00.
  zaterdag 5 januari 2013 @ 12:57:29 #10
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Istanbullu
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Er zijn opvallend veel Libiers die met vakantie komen naar Istanbul.
  dinsdag 8 januari 2013 @ 23:06:52 #11
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafeïne is ook maar een drug.
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Libyan revolution casualties lower than expected, says new government

Deputy minister of martyrs says 4,700 rebel supporters died and 2,100 are missing, down from 2011's estimate of 25,000

Libya's new government has drastically reduced its estimate of the number of people who were killed in the revolution against Muammar Gaddafi's regime, concluding that 4,700 rebel supporters died and 2,100 are missing, with unconfirmed similar casualty figures on the opposing side.

Miftah Duwadi, the deputy minister of martyrs and missing persons, told the Libya Herald newspaper that the numbers for revolutionary losses were still being checked but officials did not expect any major changes.

Arguments about casualty figures have become bound up in bitter political disagreements about the 2011 conflict. Opponents of Nato's armed intervention in support of the uprising often argue that it caused many more deaths than would have been the case without it.

The UN security council authorised action to protect Libyan civilians from the Gaddafi regime but Russia, China and other critics believe that the western alliance exceeded that mandate and moved to implement regime change.

Initially rebel officials believed that some 50,000 people had been killed, a figure that was revised down to 25,000 dead and 4,000 missing in October 2011. The latest statistics have been compiled after research by the ministry, though they do not include the final figure for fatalities on the Gaddafi side.

"I can't tell you the exact figure but, as of now, the number of martyrs from the side of revolutionaries is in the range of 4,700,″ Duwadi told the paper. "But the number of missing persons from both … sides [Gaddafi forces and revolutionaries] is around 2,100. We are working hard to finish the final numbers. It is very important for the reconciliation process as well, that we know the exact [total] losses."

During the eight-month conflict, the rebels' National Transitional Council, which was backed by western and Arab governments, estimated that tens of thousands of people had been killed by Gaddafi's forces, while the regime accused the rebels and Nato of being responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians. The ministry's research so far suggests that the death toll for the old regime may be about the same as among revolutionaries, if not less, the paper said.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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Ik ben nog altijd op het bewijs aan het wachten dat Ghadaffi de opdracht gaf op onbewapende demonstranten te schieten of om überhaupt op burgers te schieten. Helaas weet ik toch al dat dit bewijs nooit zal komen.

Verder missen nog de burgerslachtoffers in die figuren en die van het leger natuurlijk.
  donderdag 24 januari 2013 @ 15:07:21 #13
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Baas Boven Baas
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Er schijnt een significante kans voor represailles op westerlingen te zijn voor de Franse aanval op moslimextremisten in Mali.

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Britten onmiddellijk weg uit Libië

Toegevoegd: donderdag 24 jan 2013, 14:00
Update: donderdag 24 jan 2013, 14:16


Alle Britse burgers die in Benghazi zijn moeten die Libische stad onmiddellijk verlaten.

Het Britse ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken zegt over zeer duidelijke aanwijzingen te beschikken dat er gevaar dreigt voor westerse burgers in Benghazi. Wat de dreiging precies inhoudt, is niet bekendgemaakt.

Gasveld
Waarnemers denken dat de dreiging te maken heeft met de Franse interventie in Mali. Franse troepen helpen de Malinese regeringstroepen in hun strijd tegen de fundamentalistische islamieten die het noorden beheersen.

Vorige week vielen islamitische terroristen een BP-gasveld in Algerije aan. Daarbij kwamen tientallen westerse werknemers om het leven.
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Say what?
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Lijkt me verstandig dat niet alleen in Benghazi te doen. Die gijzeling vond plaats vlakbij de grens met Libië.

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0s.gif Op zaterdag 5 januari 2013 12:57 schreef HiZ het volgende:
Er zijn opvallend veel Libiers die met vakantie komen naar Istanbul.
Waarom? :P
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  donderdag 24 januari 2013 @ 19:15:53 #15
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Istanbullu
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Wat ik kan zien; winkelen, drinken (alcohol), seks en cultuur. In die volgorde ongeveer.
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Interessant, Istanbul is natuurlijk wel een stuk vaker toleranter in die dingen dan Libië. Is dat al langer zo of pas sinds de revolutie?
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  donderdag 24 januari 2013 @ 19:42:34 #17
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Istanbullu
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Sinds de revolutie. Daarvoor zag je eigenlijk nagenoeg alleen maar Golf arabieren. Gemiddeld zijn Libiers leukere mensen, voelen zich niet god omdat ze wat geld in hun zak hebben.
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Flinke verandering. Zover ik weet had je weinig vrijheid van beweging of reizen onder Khadaffi.
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Het is vandaag 2 jaar geleden dat de revolutie (officieel) begon. Er wordt al dagen flink gefeest in Libië :P











Maar veel problemen blijven aanhouden:
Divisions in Libya put aside, for now
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  maandag 18 februari 2013 @ 17:14:47 #20
56633 JimmyJames
Unspeakable powers
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http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)foreign-missionaries

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Libya arrests foreign 'missionaries'
Four foreign nationals accused of distributing Christian literature, a charge that could carry the death penalty.
Het gaat daar lekker sinds het Westen Kadhafi heeft weggebombardeerd.
Please Move The Deer Crossing Sign
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14s.gif Op zondag 17 februari 2013 22:49 schreef Frikandelbroodje het volgende:
Het is vandaag 2 jaar geleden dat de revolutie (officieel) begon. Er wordt al dagen flink gefeest in Libië :P

Maar veel problemen blijven aanhouden:
Divisions in Libya put aside, for now
Het is groots gevierd, zag het op tv. De Libiers zijn blij en trots, zij weten wel beter dan de niet-Libische conspiracy freaks waar Khadafi's 42-jarige bewind uit bestond.
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
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http://english.ahram.org.(...)tortured-in-Lib.aspx

Gaat lekker daar :N
Dit is niet de eerste keer dat de Christenen worden gearresteerd daar.
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Barbaars.
Incelfrikandel
  donderdag 4 april 2013 @ 14:11:08 #24
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafeïne is ook maar een drug.
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Gaddafi's fire-starting daughter proves too hot for the Algerians to handle

When the daughter of a deposed dictator was forced to flee her home, she had no problem in finding a safe retreat.

But Aisha Gaddafi proved too hot to handle for those who welcomed her in - she has been thrown out of her Algerian safe-house for repeatedly setting it on fire.

Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's 37-year-old daughter has an arrest warrant against her name after she fled Libya when her father was deposed and then killed two years ago.

The western educated lawyer arrived in Algeria with other family members after her husband - an army general - was killed in the bombing raids that destroyed Gaddafi's regime.
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The widowed mother was accorded a presidential residence in the south of the country.

Algeria's ambassador to Libya confirmed last month that the dictator's widow and three of his children, including Aisha, had left Algeria "a long time ago", without giving further details. It has now emerged that Algerian authorities lost patience with Miss Gaddafi, a one-time UN goodwill ambassador, after she kept vandalising furniture and attacking guards out of rage over her father's fate.
"She ended up blaming Algeria for many of her problems, and also began starting fires in the house," said a government source in Algiers.

"Shelves in the library went up in flames, and she regularly attacked army personnel looking after her safety."

The last straw was when the bleach blonde, nicknamed the "Claudia Schiffer of North Africa", destroyed a portrait of Abdulaziz Bouteflika, the Algerian president, local newspaper Ennahar reported.

For this sign of disrespect she was kicked out of the country, eventually finding asylum in Oman, Britain's Gulf ally.

Aisha, Gaddafi's widow Safiya and her sons Muhammad and Hannibal, as well as their children, have all been living there since October 2012.

They have been granted sanctuary on "humanitarian grounds" and their expenses are reportedly covered entirely by the Omani government. The Gulf state has apparently turned a blind eye to the controversial pasts of family members wanted back home for squandering the wealth and privilege they enjoyed during Gaddafi's reign. His children were known for their lavish lifestyles while he was in power and some oversaw key sectors in the economy, such as shipping and the state's telecommunications company.

Aisha Gaddafi gave birth to a girl after evading rebel forces in her home country.

She is Gaddafi's only biological daughter, and was an outspoken supporter throughout the civil war.

"He is my remedy against pain and my fortress against grief," she said.

She also came out in support of Saddam Hussein following the Iraq war.

"When you have an occupying army coming from abroad, raping your women and killing your own people, it is only legitimate that you fight them," she said at the time.

In 2006 she married her cousin Ahmed al-Gaddafi al-Qahsi, an army colonel with whom she had three children.

Qahsi was killed, along with two of their children, in bombing raids.

Hannibal Gaddafi was notorious for his abuse of servants. He once faced charges in Geneva for allegedly causing "bodily harm" to hotel staff, and he allegedly beat up his wife in a suite at Claridge's hotel in London.

Aisha and Hannibal are both wanted on Interpol arrest warrants issued at the request of Libya's new government.

Another of Gaddafi's sons, Saadi, whom Libyan officials claim played a crucial role in organising the brutal crackdown on protesters, fled across Libya's southern border to Niger.

Only Saif al-Islam, his father's presumed successor, remained inside Libya.

He is wanted by the International Criminal Court in The Hague for allegedly ordering Gaddafi's forces to open fire on unarmed protesters and faces possible execution in Libya.

Bitterly opposed to Nato's bombing campaign against Gaddafi's forces, which they said would fuel Islamic terrorism, Algerian officials were initially sympathetic to his family's plight. But the risks to the country of its decision to shelter the Gaddafis had grown.

Since Gaddafi's demise, there have been fears that family members will seek to return to Libya to gain power.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/wor(...)v.html#ixzz2PUoE2SmO

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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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Libya’s fight for the rule of law

On Sunday, March 31, armed gunmen stormed Libya's Ministry of Justice. The gunmen (reportedly militia members under the Supreme Security Committee) threw Justice Minister Salah Marghani and his staff out of the building in protest over recent televised remarks the minister made during an interview with Libya AhrarTV.

Marghani (second from left) had spoken out against unlawful detentions and the practices of prisons being run by armed militias. He promised that all prisons will be brought under the control of the ministry's judicial police and the attorney general. Marghani, like Prime Minister Zeidan (pictured at the podium), is making an effort to act as an honest communicator with the Libyan people. Marghani is handling the issue in the same responsible manner as he did in his response to the Human Rights Watch report on Libya: in that case, he publicly admitted the country's failure to prevent human rights abuses and promised to take urgent action on the issue.

His honesty and transparency did not, however, prove popular with the armed militias and groups running their own secret prisons and detention facilities. The gunmen demanded that Marghani be sacked from his post and accused him of trying to help former regime officials escape (laughable allegations even by militias' standards).

Marghani and Prime Minister Zeidan held a joint press conference just a few hours after the storming of the ministry in which they condemned the incident. They both refused to give into pressure to allow militias to control prisons or hold prisoners. Standing firm, they stressed that the decision to prevent militias from holding prisoners would not be changed.

Since it took charge a few months ago, the government has successfully maintained its media presence by holding at least one press conference a week.

Most Libyans welcome the government's tough line. The responses on social media and television show that public support for Zeidan and his government appears to be getting stronger by the day. This is what Zeidan and his team have been working hard to achieve, but the tough talk needs to be translated into action on the ground. This is ultimately what matters to Libyans.

A battle is under way between two forces in Libya. The government is striving to establish the rule of law, while the militias, clinging to revolutionary legitimacy, want things done their own way, with general disregard for the law. This is the core issue. Everything else is secondary.

The government cannot win without the support of the Libyan people. Zeidan and his cabinet ministers echo this sentiment whenever they get the chance. Moreover, in a clear contrast to the position of the previous government led by Prime Minister el-Keib (which allowed the growing influence of militias), the minister of justice has commended the people of Benghazi for the mass demonstrations, famously known as the "Benghazi Rescue Friday" on September 21, 2012 -- and the "Benghazi Won't Die Friday" on December 28, 2012, that were held against militias and armed groups in the city. He has urged all cities, especially Tripoli, to follow this path.

The government has already set up a joint task force to clear Tripoli of all armed militias and groups, and has so far cleared 36 locations out of 500 possible locations including private residential villas that belonged to former regime figures in the capital. A similar effort will follow in Benghazi. The government is clearly determined to establish control throughout Libya, and it seems to be making progress. In addition, public tolerance of militias is diminishing as ordinary Libyans' support for the state (and, implicitly, for its monopoly on violence to maintain order) increases. This provides a real opportunity for the government to act decisively.

Minister Marghani put it perfectly during his press conference with Prime Minister Zeidan following the storming of the Ministry of Justice: "The building may be stormed and the justice minister may get killed, but justice won't die, for justice is God and justice is truth, and falsehood and intolerance won't prevail over truth and justice."
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