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Sinds de splitsing van het land zijn de spanningen in Noord-Soedan toegenomen. Het land is een groot deel van haar olieinkomsten kwijt en de prijzen stijgen snel. Dat heeft al eerder tot wat onrust geleid, maar wat er de afgelopen dagen is gebeurd is groter. Om het verlies aan olieinkomsten te compenseren heeft de regering maatregelen aangekondigd die een einde maakt aan subsidies op brandstof, de belasting wordt verhoogd en meer. Veel Soedanezen lijken het niet te pikken. De afgelopen dagen zijn in de hoofdstad Khartoum en omliggende steden protesten geweest tegen de regering. Eerst waren het vooral universiteiten die kleinde demonstraties hielden, meestal slechts enkele honderden deelnemers. Maar nu lijkt het zich ook te verspreiden naar andere wijken en de beweging groeit. Veiligheidsdiensten grijpen hard in, demonstranten zouden zijn gearresteerd en mishandeld en er worden rubberen kogels en messen en zwaarden gebruikt om demonstranten te intimideren.

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Protests have taken place in Khartoum, nearby Omdurman, and other Sudanese cities over the past few days after Sudan's president, Omar al-Bashir, announced a new austerity plan.

Police used tear gas and batons against around 200 protesters chanting anti-regime slogans in Omdurman market on 19 June. Earlier the same day, witnesses said police had used force to disperse two university demonstrations.

The protests followed Bashir's announcement of the gradual removal of fuel subsidies and an increase in taxes and customs duty on luxury products, among other measures. The plan aims to help increase revenue and narrow a $2.4 bn budget deficit caused by the loss of oil revenue since the secession of South Sudan in July 2011.

"The economic and political context is threatening to unleash a revolution of the hungry that will inevitably topple the government," said Hafiz Ismail, an economist and Sudan director of the London-based advocacy group Justice Africa.

The protesters also complained of a 35% hike in public transport tariffs in Khartoum. Inflation rose to 30.4% in May from 28.6% in April, according to Sudan's statistics agency.

Students gathered at the gates of Khartoum's Sudan University chanting "No to price hikes" and "People want the regime down", before the police dispersed them using what Ghazy Badridden, an engineering graduate who participated in the demonstrations, called "excessive violence".

Students from Ahlia University in Khartoum were driven out of their classrooms after a large number of security personnel, accompanied by students who belong to the ruling National Congress party, entered the campus in pick-up trucks before attacking students with clubs and batons.

Opposition groups have rejected the new austerity package, saying it will hit working people hard and increase inflation and poverty among the already vulnerable population.

"These new measures will be the straw that broke the camel's back," said Ibrahim al-Sanousi, an assistant to the Popular Congress party's (PCP) leader Hassan al-Turabi. "People are already tired of the regime, which continues to oppress them. They'll take to the streets until they overthrow the regime." Al-Sanousi was only released in June after spending five months in detention on suspicion of communicating with armed rebel groups.

At a meeting in mid-June in Khartoum, Sudan's opposition National Consensus Forces (a coalition of opposition political parties including the Umma party, the PCP and the Communist party) agreed to launch a large-scale campaign of protests against the removal of fuel subsidies. It also discussed ways of toppling the regime, as well as an interim constitution and a transitional programme to rule the country in a three-year post-regime period. Opposition groups are scheduled to meet on 26 June to sign the two texts.

Sudanese government spokesman Rabie Abdul Ati played down the negative impact of the new measures, and said opposition moves to mobilise the street against the regime would fail.

"The Sudanese have been through harsher times during the 90s and they didn't revolt," he told IRIN. "People are aware of the crisis we've been through after the secession, loss of oil and then the shutdown of oil production, and they know these reforms are the only way to restore the recovery of the national economy."

Sudan, which has been subject to US economic sanctions since 1997, lost three-quarters of the formerly united country's oil production when South Sudan gained independence. Negotiations since have failed to yield an agreement on how much landlocked South Sudan should pay to use a pipeline and processing facilities in Sudan.

"The austerity package will not help the economy grow – rather, it will prolong the recession, curb the purchasing power of consumers, and will only affect the poor," said Justice Africa's Ismail. "The government said the new package will save $2bn annually. Well, it can save five times the amount by cutting military spending. The only way out for this regime and for the economic crisis is political. This regime is unable to solve the conflict in Darfur and the three border states, or settle the conflict with South Sudan, or even manage its relations with the world."

Police arrested more than 25 students on 19 June, according to lawyer Khansaa Ahmed Ali. The previous day, they arrested 79 people – including 25 students – for participating in a demonstration in the district of Bahari, Khartoum. Sudanese political activist Mohamed Alim, 28, was also arrested at his house in Khartoum by security officials, according to lawyer Wagdy Saleh.

In a separate incident, security forces arrested at least 40 members of opposition groups during a meeting at the premises of the Haq movement in Khartoum. A statement issued on the state-run Suna news agency said the police had contained a "small demonstration" in Bahari, Khartoum, and had arrested "students and intruders who tried to incite riots attack citizens properties".
http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)d&utm_medium=twitter

Khartoum vandaag:



Politie schiet van dichtbij op betogers:


Ik ben benieuwd waar dit naartoe gaat. Bashir is een hond die ik erg graag zie vallen.
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Bashir lijkt me al twee decennia vrij stevig in het zadel te zitten, waarom zou hij nu dan wel ten val komen?

Wat wel opvallend is, is dat (Noord)-Soedan heel kort na de splitsing een nieuwe munteenheid heeft gelanceerd. Weet iemand welke impact dat heeft gehad op het leven in (Noord)-Soedan.
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0s.gif Op donderdag 21 juni 2012 22:51 schreef zuiderbuur het volgende:
Bashir lijkt me al twee decennia vrij stevig in het zadel te zitten, waarom zou hij nu dan wel ten val komen?

Wat wel opvallend is, is dat (Noord)-Soedan heel kort na de splitsing een nieuwe munteenheid heeft gelanceerd. Weet iemand welke impact dat heeft gehad op het leven in (Noord)-Soedan.
Dat weten ze zelf niet eens.
Er is nog een boekenplank actief op ons mooie forum, dat is boekenplank. jawel deze creatieve geest jat mijn naam en zet er een punt achter. Deed hij dat laatste maar.
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Bashir lijkt me al twee decennia vrij stevig in het zadel te zitten, waarom zou hij nu dan wel ten val komen?
Dat werd ook gezegd over Assad en Khadaffi. Maar N-Soedan is een veel grotere puinhoop dan Syrië en Libië. Je zou kunnen zeggen dat het een failed state is. Lage ontwikkeling, lage levensstandaard, enorm veel corruptie, grote werkloosheid etc. En sinds de splitsing is dit alleen maar toegenomen. Genoeg voedingsbodem voor een opstand of iets dergelijks.

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Wat wel opvallend is, is dat (Noord)-Soedan heel kort na de splitsing een nieuwe munteenheid heeft gelanceerd. Weet iemand welke impact dat heeft gehad op het leven in (Noord)-Soedan.
Geen goede in ieder geval, het land is alleen maar achteruit gegaan.
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Sja, wat zou er in Nederland gebeuren als Groningen en Friesland ineens onafhankelijk zouden worden en de gasprijzen met honderden procenten stegen? :')

Khartoum was een vredige stad, dat valt nu wel mee. Begrijpelijk.
The only limit is your own imagination
Ik ben niet gelovig aangelegd en maak daarin geen onderscheid tussen dominees, imams, scharenslieps, autohandelaren, politici en massamedia

Waarom er geen vliegtuig in het WTC vloog
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0s.gif Op donderdag 21 juni 2012 22:51 schreef zuiderbuur het volgende:
Bashir lijkt me al twee decennia vrij stevig in het zadel te zitten, waarom zou hij nu dan wel ten val komen?
Well, since the Arab Spring zou je moeten weten dat dit geen garantie is ;).

Ben benieuwd hoe Zuid-Sudan op dit bericht zal reageren omdat de militaire spenderingen door Noord Sudan worden bekritiseerd.
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Vergeef me, maar ik stel me Soedan eigenlijk zo voor:
een paar vrij bevolkte steden met flashy gebouwen met een ietwat beter opgeleide bevolking die om economische redenen ter plaatse vreedzaam zou protesteren (al dan niet met succes),
en voor de rest enorm veel woestijn waar allerlei rebellenbewegingen al heel lang proberen Bashir te vedrijven, waar de bevolking echt enorm arm is, in de steek gelaten door de regering in het beste geval, en in het slechtste geval bestookt vanuit de lucht (met enorm veel amputees tot gevolg).

Beetje simplistisch, ik weet het :') maar in ieder geval zie ik het niet in de toekomst snel verbeteren :{
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Een begin met verbetering kan wel worden gemaakt als Bashir aftreedt Zuiderbuur...
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Demonstraties breiden zich uit. Waar de demonstraties eerst vooral voorkwamen in Khartoum en Omdurman zijn er nu ook demo's gemeld in het noorden, Gederaf(bij de grens met Erithrea) en de havenstad Port Sudan. Het regime lijkt zich er weinig van aan te trekken, de bezuinigingen gaan door en de politie treed hard op. Volgens Amnesty zijn honderden demonstranten gearresteerd en activisten zeggen dat demonstranten in de gevangenissen worden gemarteld en geslagen.

Video van een aantal demo's in Soedanese steden gisteren:



Ik zie ook een veranderde toon in de demo's ipv roepen om hervormingen of betere levensomstandigheden wordt er geroepen om het regime omver te werpen. Ik krijg een kleine deju-vu met Syrië, Tunesië enz :{

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Neem daarbij de etnische conflicten die nog steeds daar een belangrijke rol spelen.
Omaf Al-Bashir kan zomaar de volgende leider zijn die gaat vallen.
  vrijdag 6 juli 2012 @ 17:43:43 #10
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Al enige weken zijn de mensen in Sudan aan het protesteren tegen Bashir. Ze willen hem de macht ontnemen zoals wat er in Egypte, Sudan, Tunesie, Jemen, Bahrain en Syrie gebeurt.

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Sudanese police fired volleys of teargas at worshippers trying to leave a mosque to demonstrate after Friday prayers, a witness said, as the government tried to quell a protest movement angry about tough austerity measures.
The past three weeks have seen small-scale protests across Sudan calling for the government of President Omar Hassan al-Bashir, in power for 23 years, to resign.

Online activists, some of them inspired by the Arab Spring uprisings last year, have been using social media to call for even larger demonstrations. But Sudanese police and security forces have routinely and swiftly crushed any signs of dissent.

Hundreds of people have been arrested and detained and one journalist has been deported, Sudanese activists say.

On Friday, hundreds of Sudanese protesters left the Imam Abulrahman mosque in the Omdurman suburb of Khartoum en masse, only to be driven back inside by teargas.

"They had barely begun chanting for a minute. From the moment they left the mosque, the police fired teargas," one witness said. "They have now escaped inside and the police are surrounding the mosque's courtyard."

Police spokesman As-Sir Ahmed Omar said there had been a "limited protest which police contained without any losses".

The mosque, one of the country's largest and most famous, has been a frequent flashpoint for protests. It is associated with the opposition Umma party, which along with other opposition parties, backed demonstrations earlier this week, but has so far refrained from bringing out its supporters in large numbers.

At the Sayyid Ali mosque in the Khartoum suburb of Bahri, protesters were also forced back inside after police fired teargas as soon as they left to demonstrate.

Sudan has announced a raft of austerity measures to help keep the economy afloat after its oil revenues collapsed when South Sudan declared independence last year, taking three quarters of the oil output with it.

Protests that started on university campuses soon spread to other parts of the capital and beyond, but have rarely mustered more than a few hundred people.

The government of Sudan has dismissed the protesters as a few agitators acting on behalf of a Zionist-American plot.

The country witnessed popular uprisings in 1964 and 1985, which toppled ruling military rulers on both occasions.
Zoals je ziet, zijn deze protesten begonnen door de jeugd etc. Wat mij opvalt is dat er niets in de media wordt gezegd hierover.

Is men bang om wat er nu gebeurt in Sudan? Als deze "revolutie" slaagt, dan kan het betekenen dat Zuid Sudan weer één wordt met Sudan en Darfour zal misschien eindelijk vrede hebben.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~François Fénelon
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Politie zou vandaag het vuur hebben geopend op demonstraties in Nayla, in Darfur. Al-Jazeera meld 6 doden, activisten op twitter zeggen zelfs 12. Onder de doden zouden kinderen zijn :{


Video van één van de demonstraties bij een school.

btw waarom is de tt veranderd?
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  Moderator dinsdag 31 juli 2012 @ 19:40:59 #12
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Geef me die goud!!!
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vanwege een merge

wat was de originele titel?
Op zondag 8 december 2013 00:01 schreef Karina het volgende:
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
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Onrust en protesten in Noord-Soedan.

Revolutie lijkt me voorlopig nog niet van toepassing, maar het regime heeft hiermee een hele grote fout gemaakt.

Edit: thanks sp3c

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Over protesten in de steden hoor ik niets meer, maar wel opnieuw een bericht over gevechten tussen het leger en rebellen, in zowel Darfur als Zuid-Kordofan, nabij de grens met Zuid-Soedan:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19527693
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Sudan protesters call for president Omar al-Bashir to step down

Media blackout imposed after Khartoum gripped by anti-austerity demonstrations during week in which dozens were killed

Thousands of Sudanese protesters have taken to the streets of the capital, Khartoum, chanting "freedom" and renewing calls for their longtime autocratic president to resign after dozens of people were killed in a week of demonstrations prompted by austerity measures.

The government, which has imposed a media blackout, moved to appease the rancour with cash, saying it would distribute money to half a million families to offset higher fuel and food prices in a country where nearly half the population lives in poverty.

The street demonstrations, which began after subsidies were lifted last week, have been the most widespread in Sudan since Omar al-Bashir seized power 24 years ago.

Waving pictures of protesters who died, thousands of people held a memorial on Sunday night for Salah al-Sanhouri, a demonstrator shot on Friday during an earlier protest in Burri, an old Khartoum district.

Women called for the end to the regime and chanted "freedom, peace and justice".

Residents cheered on the marchers from rooftops while nearby security forces were stationed in pickup trucks carrying mounted machine guns near the spot where al-Sanhouri was shot.

"The protests will continue and will reach a general strike. This is our aim," said Ghazi al-Sanhouri, a nephew of the dead protester. "We will keep uncovering the regime's brutal tactics in suppressing the protests by killings and atrocities."

Al-Sanhouri's father, Moudthir al-Reih, said: "This regime will come to an end … God willing it will be over."

Public discontent had been growing over failed economic and political policies that led South Sudan to break off and became an independent state in 2011, taking approximately three-quarters of Sudan's oil production with it. Critics also blamed Bashir for draining the country's coffers by battling armed rebel movements on three different fronts.

The unrest began in the city of Wad Madani, south of Khartoum, but quickly spread to at least nine districts in Khartoum and seven cities across the country.

The crackdown on thousands of protesters has left at least 50 dead, according to international rights groups. Doctors and activists put the death toll higher, claiming it stands at more than 100. The government has acknowledged 33 have died, including police officers.

In a latest blow to freedom of the press, Sudanese authorities also forced the country's largest daily newspaper, al-Intibaha, to stop printing, according to the paper's website. The country's largest paper is owned and run by an uncle of Bashir, Al-Tayab Mustafa. Mustafa could not be immediately reached.

Several dailies came under pressure to depict demonstrators as "saboteurs". The government also closed the offices of Gulf-based satellite networks al-Arabiya and Sky News Arabia. Several newspapers were ordered to stop publication while others stopped voluntarily to avoid government pressure.

In an interview with al-Arabiya Sunday, Sudan's foreign minister defended the move, saying: "Media make revolutions".

"If the revolution is created by media, we have to be serious in dealing with it," he said from New York, where he was attending the UN general assembly.

Diaa Eddin Belal, editor-in-chief of al-Sudani newspaper, said editions of his paper were confiscated and they have been ordered to stop printing three times since Wednesday. Back to work on Sunday, Belal said that in one incident on Friday the papers had been on their way to distribution centres when he received a phone call from police telling him that there would be no papers that day.

"The government feels that its own existence is endangered and the press is playing a role in influencing public opinion … they want papers to turn into official gazettes that reflect only [the government's] point of view with no criticism or negative feedback," he said.

In a move aimed at pacifying a frustrated public, the government said on Sunday it would distribute one-off payments to families in need, raise the minimum wage and boost public sector salaries.

The official Suna news agency reported that the minister of social solidarity, Mashair al-Dawlab, ordered 500,000 families to be given 150 Sudanese pound (£13) aid packages in early October. It also quoted the deputy finance minister as saying the public sector salary increases would start at the same time.

Meanwhile, Sudan's main labour union said a rise in minimum wages promised since January would be implemented in the next two days.

Still concerned about lingering protests, however, the education ministry said on Sunday that schools would remain closed until 20 October. Schools have been closed since Wednesday after high school students led protests against Bashir in different districts of the capital.
De afgelopen maanden komen zo'n beetje alle islamistische bondgenoten van Qatar in de regio in de problemen. Ik kan het alleen maar toejuichen :+
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