http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)hat-fought-back.htmlquote:For the first time on record, the Chinese Communist party has lost all control, with the population of 20,000 in this southern fishing village now in open revolt.
The last of Wukan’s dozen party officials fled on Monday after thousands of people blocked armed police from retaking the village, standing firm against tear gas and water cannons.
Since then, the police have retreated to a roadblock, some three miles away, in order to prevent food and water from entering, and villagers from leaving. Wukan’s fishing fleet, its main source of income, has also been stopped from leaving harbour.
The plan appears to be to lay siege to Wukan and choke a rebellion which began three months ago when an angry mob, incensed at having the village’s land sold off, rampaged through the streets and overturned cars.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)esolution-talks.htmlquote:Rattled Chinese Communist Party chiefs asked to enter the south coastal village to discuss an end to the week-long stand off with villagers but were refused.
Wukan residents are in open revolt after the death of their main anti-corruption protester, Xue Jinbo in police custody ten days ago.
"Leaders at a higher level of local government summoned me for talks. They said they would come to the village as they know I will not leave. But I told them that until they release Xue's body, and the four other villagers held in custody, and to give back our land, there can be no talks," said village representative Lin Zuluan.
Wat ergquote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:10 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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quote:Chinese overheid gaat onderhandelen met inwoners Wukan
De leiders van de Chinese provincie Guangdong gaan woensdag in gesprek met de inwoners van het vissersdorp Wukan. In Wukan, wat in het zuiden van China ligt, woedt al ruim een week een hevig en massaal protest tegen de autoriteiten. De inwoners dreigden enkele dagen terug hun protest voort te zetten in Lufeng, de administratieve hoofdstad van de regio.
Met de onderhandelingen lijkt de Chinese overheid uit te zijn op een vreedzame oplossing in het conflict. In het dorp is het al langere tijd onrustig, doordat lokale autoriteiten land onteigenen om dat voor projectontwikkeling te gebruiken. De inwoners kwamen hiertegen in opstand en bijna twee weken geleden werden vier demonstranten gearresteerd. Toen één van de actievoerders, Xue Jinbo, in zijn cel onder mysterieuze omstandigheden overleed sloeg de vlam in de pan, kwam het volledige dorp in opstand en werden de autoriteiten het dorp uitgejaagd.
De onderhandelingen worden woensdagochtend gevoerd door twee topambtenaren van de provinciale overheid. Lin Zuluan, één van de actievoerders die morgen namens Wukan de onderhandelingen zal voeren, noemde tegen persbureau Reuters de eisen die het dorp stelt. De drie opgesloten actievoerders moeten vrij worden gelaten, er moet een onderzoek komen naar de dood van Xue Jinbo en de overheid moet het dorpscomité erkennen dat Wukan heeft opgezet. “Wordt hier niet aan voldaan, dan zijn onze problemen niet opgelost”, zei Lin.
Het is nog niet helemaal duidelijk of met de toenadering van de provinciale overheid de protestmars naar Lufeng van de baan is. Sommige dorpsbewoners hebben laten weten dat ze bang zijn dat de politie geweld inzet als ze de protestmars houden. Wukan is sinds ruim een week omsingeld door veiligheidsdiensten.
Ocuppy is een wereldrevolutie tegen corrupte overheden en hebberige bedrijven. In Moscow noemen ze zich ook geen Occupy, maar het is een manifestatie van dezelfde woede.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:14 schreef problematiQue het volgende:
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Wat ergDie mensen daar willen alleen dat iemand van de centrale overheid orde op zaken komt stellen, en de twitteraars in het Westen verbinden het meteen met Occupy. Alsof het in Wukan draait om de macht van de banken oid...
twitter:escapetochengdu twitterde op maandag 19-12-2011 om 21:24:03College students in China publicly demonstrated in support of #OccupyWukan. Brave + badass. http://t.co/YrKu0juB reageer retweet
Ja, prima, maar om nou een visserdorpje dat z'n viswater terug wil dan maar meteen onder de vlag van Occupy te plaatsen gaat me wel een beetje ver. Dan is opeens elke demonstratie een Occupy demonstratie. Bovendien houden ze in Wukan niet het centrale plein bezet, of iets in die geest. Het is gewoon een totaal andere situatie met als enige overeenkomst dat het volk boos is op de overheid.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:16 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Ocuppy is een wereldrevolutie tegen corrupte overheden en hebberige bedrijven. In Moscow noemen ze zich ook geen Occupy, maar het is een manifestatie van dezelfde woede.
Nee, dat is het idee van Occupy.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:23 schreef problematiQue het volgende:
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Ja, prima, maar om nou een visserdorpje dat z'n viswater terug wil dan maar meteen onder de vlag van Occupy te plaatsen gaat me wel een beetje ver.
Dat is ook het enige element van Occupy.quote:Dan is opeens elke demonstratie een Occupy demonstratie. Bovendien houden ze in Wukan niet het centrale plein bezet, of iets in die geest. Het is gewoon een totaal andere situatie met als enige overeenkomst dat het volk boos is op de overheid.
Zielig.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:10 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Wat is er zielig aan? Dit duurt al weken, en zie je er iets over in de pers of zelfs op Fok! ?quote:
Dat zielige occupy hippies deze Chinese opstand gebruiken om te proberen hun morsdode occupy gezeik nieuw leven in te blazen.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:35 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Wat is er zielig aan? Dit duurt al weken, en zie je er iets over in de pers of zelfs op Fok! ?
Nu maakt iemand een Occupy-opmerking en nu krijgt de situatie aandacht.
Ze brengen deze situatie onder de aandacht, dat is een goede daad.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:39 schreef Blitzkrieger het volgende:
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Dat zielige occupy hippies deze Chinese opstand gebruiken om te proberen hun morsdode occupy gezeik nieuw leven in te blazen.
Niets met occupy te maken. The Telegraph heeft het niet via occupy, en de enige reden dat wij het nu over occupy hebben, is omdat jij erover begon. Op twitter heeft ook bijna niemand het erover.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:41 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Ze brengen deze situatie onder de aandacht, dat is een goede daad.
quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 20:39 schreef Blitzkrieger het volgende:
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Dat zielige occupy hippies deze Chinese opstand gebruiken om te proberen hun morsdode occupy gezeik nieuw leven in te blazen.
Overheidscorruptie en bedrijfsmatige hebberigheid.quote:
Occupy is geen organisatie met een kantoor. Het is een uiting van volkswoede.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 21:02 schreef problematiQue het volgende:
Die dorpelingen hebben waarschijnlijk nog nooit van Occupy gehoord. Die hele beweging heeft hier werkeling nul mee te maken.
Nee. China censureert zwaar op de Arabische Lente en Occupy, we weten niet wat de mensen in Wukan daarvan mee gekregen hebben.quote:Op dinsdag 20 december 2011 21:09 schreef problematiQue het volgende:
Als Occupy Wall Street niet had bestaan had er geen Occupy Amsterdam geweest. Maar wel of geen Occupy heeft geen invloed gehad op de situatie Wukan, eens?
Nee, ik zie het verschil dat je maakt echt niet.quote:Dat allemaal mensen in het westen Het 'Occupy Wukan' noemen doet af aan het unieke karakter van deze 'dorpsopstand'. Dit zijn niet linkse activisten die zonder directe aanleiding hun tentje hebben opgezet op het centrale plein, zoals in de rest van de wereld. Dit gaat over iets heel concreets, in plaats van het vage 'tegen de banken en de overheid' van Occupy wereldwijd.
quote:China's land grab is undermining grassroots democracy
The standoff in Wukan exemplifies the growing tensions between state and society in a rapidly urbanising country
After continuous confrontation between villagers and local officials for almost four months, the land grab in the fishing village of Wukan, in Guandong province, China, has now led to the death of one of the elected village leaders in police custody, and further escalated into a violent "mass incident" with tens of thousands of farmers protesting against local officials.
The Wukan case is just one of many mass incidents China has experienced in recent years. In fact, the number keeps rising every year; journalists often cite a figure of 87,000 for 2005, estimates by the China Academy of Social Sciences give a figure of "over 90,000" mass incidents in 2006, and further unspecified increases in 2007 and 2008.
In China, a mass incident is defined as "any kind of planned or impromptu gathering that forms because of internal contradictions", including mass public speeches, physical conflicts, airing of grievances, or other forms of group behaviour that may disrupt social stability. Among China's mass incidents, more than 60% have been related to land disputes when local governments in China worked closely with manufacturers and real-estate developers to grab land from farmers at low prices.
In a drive to industrialise and urbanise, thousands of industrial parks and many thousands of real estate development projects have been, or are being, built at the costs of dispossessed farmers. The land requisition system deprives three to four million farmers of their land every year, and around 40-50 million are now dispossessed.
The Wukan case says a lot about the serious tension between state and society in the fast urbanising China. It is difficult to play the land requisition game fairly under the current system, since farmers are neither allowed to negotiate directly on the compensation package, nor are they allowed to develop their own land for non-agricultural purposes. They have to sell their land to local government first, which defines the price then leases the land to industrial and commercial/residential users for a profit. As land prices keep rising in China, it is not surprising that farmers with rising expectations are becoming increasingly unhappy. As a result, mass incidents, sometimes as violent as in Wukan, are inevitable.
Local authorities in China, in their pursuit of revenue via aggressive urbanisation and industrialisation, are also undermining the country's grassroots democracy. It was usually local officials who would carry out difficult negotiations with village collectives, or who were in charge of coercing defiant farmers to accept government terms. Having village cadres who shared their interests would not only lower the selling price but also determine whether or not the transaction could take place at all. Therefore, township and county officials in localities that experienced greater land requisition had a stronger incentive to manipulate village democracies to make sure that more co-operative cadres were elected.
One township party secretary I interviewed in Fujian province said: "If election rules are followed strictly, [we] will lose control of the rural society. Village cadres will be afraid of villagers, not the township government. They can put off assignments from the township government and compromise the tasks during implementation. Therefore … local officials are willing to introduce rules that subvert the true meaning of village democracy. This is also the case in Wukan in which farmers are protesting not only against local governments, but also against villager cadres who worked with the authorities in abusive land requisition.
As China is urbanising fast, land requisition takes place in more Chinese villages, in particular those closest to the cities. Farmers with rising expectations on the one hand, and local officials with financial stakes in keeping the compensation low on the other, are bound to lead to increasingly violent mass incidents. Local governments in China needs to spend more not only on compensating farmers, but also on maintaining social stability. Wukan should be a signal for China to reform its land requisition system in order to keep local governments away from the financial gains of abusive land taking.
Dit heeft niks met links of rechts te maken, maar alles met kleptocratie en nepotisme. Een kleine groep zelfverrijkende mensen die hun invloed op de regering misbruiken of door middel van kruiwagenpolitiek om te stelen van de gewone burger. Weet je wel, wat Wall Street bedrijven ook doenquote:
Nee nee nee, dit is heel iets anders dan Occupy.quote:Op woensdag 21 december 2011 01:03 schreef SemperSenseo het volgende:
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Dit heeft niks met links of rechts te maken, maar alles met kleptocratie en nepotisme. Een kleine groep zelfverrijkende mensen die hun invloed op de regering misbruiken of door middel van kruiwagenpolitiek om te stelen van de gewone burger. Weet je wel, wat Wall Street bedrijven ook doen
http://www.chinahush.com/(...)ge-of-wukan-village/quote:Finding several reporters to make a scene, thinking that the more the press defame me the more I will suffer, thinking the problem will get me fired. What good can come of getting me fired? They will just send another Mayor down here, and I bet he won’t be any better than me. Ha, I am kidding, but there is some truth to it.
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http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)three-villagers.htmlquote:Wukan forces Chinese officials to release three villagers
The rebellious Chinese fishing village of Wukan forced the ruling Communist Party to agree to the release of three villagers detained for protesting against corruption and land grabs on Wednesday.
Misschien zoals in Syrië?quote:Op woensdag 21 december 2011 13:58 schreef Rotte-Aardappel het volgende:
Ik ben toch benieuwd hoe dit af gaat lopen.
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quote:Voices from the Occupation - Occupy is Everywhere
It can be all too easy to see the Occupy Movement as a Western phenomenon, centred on Wall Street and London. However, as the weeks have rolled on, the movement has become a truly global conversation; now with over 2000 occupations, in every populated continent on the planet. Todays article brings you stories from the Occupations all over the world, from camps you may not have seen in the news or the papers.
Occupy camps have set up all over Asia. Let's start in China major camps in Hong Kong, Luoyang and Zhengzhou. In India, Kolkata and Mumbai. In Indonesia, Jakarta. In Tel Aviv in Israel and Tokyo, Japan. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia. In Pakistan, we have Islamabad. Manila in the Philippines and Seoul in South Korea. Taipei in Taiwan and Istanbul, Turkey. All these camps have been established on or since the 15th October call to Occupy the World.
Jamaar het is zo lekkerquote:
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quote:Chinese police fire teargas at power station protesters
Riot police block entrances to Haimen town to quell protests over a proposed coal-fired plant in southern China
Chinese police have fired teargas to break up demonstrations over a proposed power plant in a southern China town, where protests have escalated into clashes with police this week.
Riot police blocked entrances to Haimen town and aimed teargas canisters at lines of protesters on motorbikes to quell the unrest in the southern province of Guangdong, an economic powerhouse.
Haimen, a coastal town of about 120,000 people, is 80 miles east of Wukan, where a 10-day siege of villagers protesting against a "land grab" ended on Wednesday after the provincial government brokered a deal.
Protests in China have become relatively common over corruption, pollution, wages, and land grabs that local officials justify in the name of development.
Chinese experts put the number of "mass incidents", as such protests are known, at about 90,000 a year in recent years.
The grip of Communist party rule is not directly threatened by such unrest, but officials fear they could coalesce into broader more organised challenges to their power.
The Haimen tensions have flared for three days as residents protest against plans for another coal-fired power plant, some turning over cars and throwing bricks in clashes with police.
On Thursday, riot police sent teargas into an open space to hold back a large band of protesters on motorbikes, according to footage shown on Hong Kong's Cable TV. As smoke billowed towards the crowd, some protesters could be seen riding away quickly.
A Reuters witness earlier saw that about 100 men on motorbikes had gathered to watch the wall of police, armed with batons and shields, who were blocking the highway near a large, shuttered petrol station.
"What place in the world builds two power plants within one kilometre?" said one of the Haimen residents as he watched police lines a few hundred metres away.
"The factories are hazardous to our health. Our fish are dying and there are so many people who've got cancer," he said.
"We thought of protesting outside the government office but we know none of them has listened to us. So we had no choice but to block the highway. The police beat up so many of the protesters in the past two days."
At one point on Thursday the Haimen residents screamed and surged forward when a riot policeman, waving his baton in the air, charged towards a man on a motorcycle who had been riding towards the police blockade on the highway.
"This place is very chaotic, I think it's best for you to leave immediately," a man who identified himself as a Shantou government official told a Reuters reporter.
Officials have said they would suspend construction on the project, but residents refused to back down, demanding the plan be scrapped completely.
The Haimen unrest is the latest challenge for Guangdong party chief Wang Yang, a contender for promotion to the highest echelons of the Communist party in a leadership transition in late 2012.
China's top newspaper praised the defusing of tensions in nearby Wukan, suggesting that the handling of the dispute would not necessarily hurt Wang's prospects.
The People's Daily chided local officials for letting the dispute get out of hand in the first place, but also hailed the outcome as an example of how the government should handle an increasingly fractious and vocal society.
Residents of Wukan fended off police with barricades and held protests for days over the land dispute and death in police custody of a village organiser, rejecting the government's position that a postmortem showed he died of natural causes.
But after talks with senior officials, village representatives told residents to pull down protest banners and go back to their normal lives – provided the government kept to its word.
Police in Haimen are using the more traditional method for breaking up protests in China – teargas and truncheons. Exits to Haimen from the expressway to nearby Shantou city were closed down.
But life appeared to be normal in other parts of Haimen on Thursday, with shops open and people going about their business.
Government officials, including those in charge of security, have been vague and played down the unrest. A Shantou official told Reuters by telephone there had been injuries in the clashes but no deaths.
An official at the Chaoyang public security bureau denied any deaths or injuries, although he said there had been a "gathering" the previous day. Haimen is under the jurisdiction of Chaoyang district.
State news agency Xinhua said several hundred people had protested on a highway on Wednesday.
According to Hong Kong's Ming Pao newspaper, more than 1,000 residents had gathered at a toll gate to confront hundreds of police.
On Thursday, China's main official newspapers published an account of a speech by Zhou Yongkang, chief of domestic security, who urged officials to ensure "a harmonious and stable social setting" ahead of the Communist party's 18th congress late next year.
At that congress, President Hu Jintao and his cohort will give way to a new generation of central leaders, a sensitive transition for the one-party government.
quote:Heed rights protests, senior Communist party secretary tells Chinese officials
Zhu Mingguo condemns local party officials as 'red apples, rotten inside' in wake of Wukan protests over confiscated farmland
A senior Chinese official who helped defuse a standoff with protesting villagers has told colleagues to get used to citizens who are increasingly assertive about their rights, and likened erring local governments to red apples with rotten cores.
Zhu Mingguo, a deputy Communist party secretary of southern Guangdong province, helped broker a compromise between the government and residents of Wukan village last week. Ten days of protests over confiscated farmland and the death of a protest organiser drew widespread attention as a rebuff to the government.
Guangzhou Daily, the official paper of the provincial capital, quoted Zhu as telling officials that Wukan and other protests were not isolated flare-ups. "In terms of society, the public's awareness of democracy, equality and rights is constantly strengthening, and their corresponding demands are growing," Zhu told a meeting on Monday about preserving social stability, the paper said.
"Public consciousness of rights defence is growing, and the means used to defend rights are increasingly intense," said Zhu. "Their channels for voicing grievances are diverse and there is a tendency for conflicts to become more intense."
Zhu cited protests by migrant factory workers who complained about ill-treatment. These areas where unrest erupted had previously won praise as "advanced units" – showcases of growth and harmony, noted Zhu.
"In these areas there were many problems that were not swiftly identified, and when they erupted the consequences were even more serious," said Zhu, referring to the response by local officials. "Like apples, their hearts were rotten even if their skins were red, and when the skins broke there was a real mess."
Red is the colour of the ruling Communist party, and Zhu's comments reflected debate within it about warding off risks of unrest from an increasingly unequal and diverse society.
In recent days Chinese courts have jailed two dissidents – one for nine years, the other for 10 – underscoring the government's determination to silence critics who it fears will channel discontent into organised opposition to one-party rule.
That concern is magnified by preparations for a party congress in late 2012, when the central leadership will retire and make way for a new generation.
Zhu put much of the blame for the recent unrest on local administrators. In Wukan, he said, officials had sold off more than two-thirds of the village land without providing for residents' welfare. "Now, where are the state cadres who remember that farmers don't have land for their food?" Zhu told the meeting. "When do they think of the hardships of ordinary people?
"If these complaints had been dealt with sooner, would they have ever caused such a big ruckus?"
The protests in Wukan ended after officials made concessions over the seized farmland and the death of a village leader, Xue Jinbo, whose family suspects he was beaten in custody.
Villagers denounced local officials as corrupt and heartless throughout their months-long dispute, which erupted in rioting in September. But they ended up welcoming province officials led by Zhu as brokers who finally stepped in to forge compromise.
The officials agreed to release three men held over the land protest in September, when a government office was trashed, and to re-examine the cause of Xue's death, protest organisers said.
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