Oorlog in Libië #96. Met collateral damage.

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Op zondag 3 april 2011 22:10 schreef Mr_Memory het volgende:

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Huhh dat verklaart een hoop, het was al zo rustig de laaste dagen.
Maar zijn ze daar niet een beetje laat mee

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Op zondag 3 april 2011 22:19 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Het kon niet eerder , de NATO heeft het net overgenomen van de coalitie

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Ik verwacht nu wel van Turkije dat ze Ghaddafi tot een staakt het vuren dwingen, anders maken ze zichzelf belachelijk.

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Op zondag 3 april 2011 22:50 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
4libya: @LibyaInMe: NEW VIDEO: This is the interview with Eman Al Obeidi (ARABIC). http://t.co/sMQCQpb
#libya #feb17 Alhamdulillah she is alive!
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Op zondag 3 april 2011 22:57 schreef Cobra4 het volgende:
Onderminister: Libië wil einde gevechten

ATHENE - De regering van Libië wil dat er een einde komt aan de gevechten in het Noord-Afrikaanse land. Dat heeft de Libische onderminister van Buitenlandse Zaken, Abdelati Obeidi, zondag tegen premier George Papandreou van Griekenland gezegd. Dat hebben Griekse regeringsfunctionarissen gemeld.

Schijnbaar zoeken de Libische autoriteiten naar een oplossing, zei minister Dimitris Droutsas van Buitenlandse Zaken na zijn ontmoeting met de Libische bewindsman. Er moet serieus worden geprobeerd vrede en stabiliteit in de regio te bereiken, zei Droutsas.

De Libische leider Muammar Kaddafi stuurde Obeidi naar Athene om Papandreou een boodschap te brengen. Aanvankelijk werd gedacht dat de onderminister naar Griekenland was gevlucht. Obeidi heeft de Grieken gezegd dat hij ook naar Malta en Turkije zal gaan.

Bron: http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)nde_gevechten__.html

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Op zondag 3 april 2011 23:25 schreef Mr_Memory het volgende:

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Dit kan ik wel begrijpen, hele steden zijn in puin geschoten en gegooid, en de economie ligt totaal op zijn gat.
Een zeker staak het vuur zou de beste oplossing zijn voor beiden, maar wat ik er niet uit op kan maken is, of dit voorstel met of zonder MK aan de macht is

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Op zondag 3 april 2011 22:50 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
4libya: @LibyaInMe: NEW VIDEO: This is the interview with Eman Al Obeidi (ARABIC). http://t.co/sMQCQpb
#libya #feb17 Alhamdulillah she is alive!
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Op zondag 3 april 2011 23:30 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
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^{Ben Curtis / AP - A young boy who said he had spent two days in besieged Brega and stolen a vehicle belonging to Moammar Gadhafi's forces in order to return to the rebel side, is questioned by rebel fighters near the front line east of Brega on April 3. Rebel fighters shot the tires out of the vehicle as it sped through the front line but released the boy after listening to his story.}

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By Richard Lardner - The Associated Press
Posted : Sunday Apr 3, 2011 16:37:36 EDT

WASHINGTON The U.S. agreed to NATOs request for a 48-hour extension of American participation in coalition airstrikes against targets in Libya and U.S. lawmakers cautioned Sunday the allies need to know more about the rebels fighting Moammar Gadhafis forces before providing them with weapons.

Two weeks into the assault on Gadhafi, Republican lawmakers expressed concern that a stalemate could leave him in control of portions of Libya and with access to stockpiles of chemical weapons.

The U.S. is shifting the combat role to Britain, France and other NATO allies, but American air power is still in demand. Air Force AC-130 gunships and A-10 Thunderbolts and Marine Corps AV-8B Harriers will continue to attack Gadhafis troops and other sites through Monday evening. These aircraft are among the most precise in the American arsenal. Verder.

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Libya releases Al Jazeera journalist

One of four journalists covering the uprising in Libya has been released after being arrested for a second time.

One of four Al Jazeera journalists detained by Libyan forces has been released after a bizarre turn of events that saw the team being arrested, freed and then rearrested.

Lotfi Al Masoudi, a Tunisian national, crossed the border into Tunisia on Sunday night.

An Al Jazeera spokesman said that the network is "glad to see the end of the ordeal that Lotfi unnecessarily went through" while calling for the immediate release of his colleagues.

A statement from the network blasted the arrest of the journalists as "a grave breach of human rights as established by international law and conventions guaranteeing the freedom and safety of reporters, especially those operating under the extreme conditions of war."

"We are extremely grateful for all the sincere and generous efforts of heads of state, diplomats as well as legal, human rights, media and press freedoms organisations from around the world to secure the release or our colleagues."

Lotfi, along with Ahmad Val Ould Eddin, a Mauritanian national, Ammar Al-Hamdan, a Norwegian national of Palestinian descent, and Kamel Al Tallou, a Libyan citizen, was freed once before.

The men were initially detained on March 19 near Zintan, in the country's northwest. They were released on March 31, only to be rearrested later that same day.

After they were freed on March 31, Al Masoudi, gave an interview to a Tunisian radio station, saying that he and his colleagues had been treated well.

The three non-Libyan nationals met with their respective ambassadors in Tripoli to plan their departure for Tunisia the following day.

But all four men were rearrested just hours later, with Libyan authorities providing no information on why the journalists were rearrested or where they were being held.

Other foreign journalists detained in Libya, such as two BBC correspondents, who were also detained and released, have spoken of rough treatment that includes beatings and mock executions.

Reporters from The New York Times and AFP news agency are also among those who have either been detained or are missing since the violent conflict between pro-democracy rebels and Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's started in February.

The Committee to Protect Journalists has recorded at least 60 attacks on journalists in the North African country since the start of the unrest, with 33 documented arrests and two fatalities, including Al Jazeera cameraman Ali Hassan Al Jaber, who was shot covering a protest 50km outside Benghazi.

Ahmad Val Ould Eddin first joined Al Jazeera in 2008. He worked as a correspondent in South Africa for a couple of years before he returned to the newsroom in Doha. He reported on Africa, which led him to cover Libya during the recent uprising. A Mauritanian, he has two daughters, Layla and Lubna. He writes a blog called "Kounach", in which he collects articles he published in several newspapers. He is a passionate reader of Arabic poetry, especially by Al-Mutanabbi.

Lotfi Al Masoudi joined Al Jazeera from CNBC Dubai in March 2007 and started off as a presenter for Al Jazeera Sport. He is a native of Kairouan, Tunisia, and his main professional goal has been to make sure that Al Jazeera stays at the forefront of the news industry. This devotion took him to Libya to cover the conflict there as a correspondent. Lotfi is 34, married, and has a 2-year-old son named Mohamad Khalil. Lotfi and his wife Amira hope to have a family reunion soon.

Kamel Al-Tallou joined Al Jazeera as a cameraman recently, driven by his passion for journalism despite his medical education and background as a doctor. Al-Tallou studied medicine in Tripoli before working as a doctor in England until 2009. Kamel, 43, is married with three sons and one daughter.

Ammar Al-Hamdan is a Norwegian cameramen with a multicultural background. He is of Palestinian origin, born in Baghdad in 1977 and brought up in Oslo, where he married a Norwegian journalist. Ammar has worked in Al Jazeera's Oslo bureau since last year.

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@mezelf: geen goed idee.
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d'r is trouwens nog altijd geen internet, telefoon etc hier. Heb ooit bar gehad in Kosovo. Internetcafe in Benghazi starten een idee? #Libie
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medewerkers firma herinneren hem als harde werker en aardige man. Libische chef bevestigt dat Khadaffitroepen zijn medicijnen stalen. #Libie
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ben trouwens ook bij oliefirma in Zwaytina geweest waar overleden nederlandse duiker werkte. behoorlijk gevochten in die regio... #Libie
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zag de nep kolonel gisteren nog door hotel lopen. heb hem nog een blikje fanta gegeven. aardige gast, maar nep dus...wel humor. #Libie
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ff iets comisch: 'rebellen kolonel' die interviews geeft aan iedereen is volgens de echte rebellen een nep kolonel en een nep rebel. #Libie
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Frankrijk,UK,Qatar,UAE en nu Turkije helpen echt hier. Nederland zie je nergens. Afgezien dan van die duffe heli in Sirte #Libie
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gewonden gaan naar Izmir, Turkije. Krijgen daar medische hulp. Bij sommige gewonden denk je: dan kan je maar beter dood zijn... #Libie
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het gaat om een turkse veerboot. vol met gewonden. overal matrassen op de grond. Mensen zonder neuzen, benen, armen. #Libie

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Qaddafi Son Proposes Peace Plan, Diplomat Says

TRIPOLI, Libya Col. Muammar el-Qaddafis son Seif el-Islam is proposing a resolution to the Libyan conflict that would entail his father relinquishing power for a transition to constitutional democracy under his sons direction, a diplomat with close ties to the Libyan government said Sunday, citing eminent people in Tripoli.

But neither Colonel Qaddafi nor the rebels seeking his ouster appear ready to accept such a proposal, the diplomat said, speaking on condition of anonymity to divulge private conversations within the Libyan government.

Despite the evidence of deep internal discontent, Colonel Qaddafi appears to believe that rebellion against him is a foreign conspiracy of Islamist radicals and oil-hungry Western powers attempting to take over Libya, the diplomat said. And the rebels, who have set up their own provisional government, continue to insist on the exit from power of Colonel Qaddafi and his sons.

This is the beginning position of the opposition, and this is the beginning position of the Libyan government, this diplomat said. But the bargaining has yet to commence.

The diplomats account could not be confirmed and Libyan officials have declined to comment on any talks. Speculation has swirled about a possible proposal from the Qaddafi camp since Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafis top aide, Mohamed Ismail, traveled to London for undisclosed talks with the British several days ago. The diplomats account is the first insight into the content of those talks and the latest sign that the Qaddafi government may be feeling the pressure from two weeks of allied airstrikes that have severely diminished the advantage in equipment of the Qaddafi militias.

The London talks coincided with the defection of one of Colonel Qaddafis closest confidants, the foreign minister and former intelligence chief Moussa Koussa, followed closely by the exit to Egypt of another former foreign minister, Ali Abdussalam el-Treki.

British officials have so far declined to describe any conversations with Mr. Ismail.

Militarily, the rebellion appears to be locked in a stalemate. On the eastern front, near the oil town of Brega, the two sides exchanged rocket and mortar fire for several hours on Sunday but the battle lines did not change.

Loyalists continued to hold most of the town, with the rebel forces massed on the road to the northeast of the city.

In Tripoli, armed checkpoints keep the capital locked down. And the United Nations resolution authorizing airstrikes does not include the deployment of Western troops on the ground in Libya.

In this case, how will they stop fighting? the diplomat asked. They will continue until the ammunition is finished, this stupid fighting along the highway.

Proposals and counterproposals for a cease-fire appeared deadlocked as well, the diplomat noted. For Qaddafi a cease-fire means everyone should cease firing but the Qaddafi forces should stay where they are, but for the rebels it means that the Qaddafi forces should withdraw, the diplomat said.

Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafis proposal follows years of public efforts on his part to call for a transition to a constitutional democracy. He has said that his father was a historically unique figure and that Libyas next leader should be elected to serve for a limited time under a legal system spelled out in a constitution.

To many Libyans who do not support the armed revolt, Seif al-Islam represents a hope for more gradual change. In a recent interview with the pan-Arab news channel Al-Arabiya, another Qaddafi son, Saadi, suggested that before the revolt Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafi was the person who used to run the show every day in Libya.

But in the opaque and convoluted Libyan system, in which neither Colonel Qaddafi nor his son Seif al-Islam hold any formal office, how decisions are made is often impossible to discern.

During the revolt, though, Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafis position has been indistinguishable from his father, vowing swift retribution against the rebels and potentially tarnishing his credibility as a voice of reform. He has argued that the early and healthy peaceful movement for political opening was quickly co-opted by foreign terrorists determined to bring down the Libyan government.

Rebels said Sunday that the Western airstrikes had begun hitting the heavy weapons of the Qaddafi forces even within cities. A spokesman for the rebels controlling the besieged city of Misurata said that on Friday night the airstrikes had hit two tanks and three armored vehicles of the Qaddafi forces that had entered the city. But on Sunday morning Qaddafi forces outside the city continued shelling an area near the port, while Qaddafi gunmen occupied rooftops along the central Tripoli Street, said the spokesman, Mohamed, whose last name was withheld for the protection of his family.

In an interview in Tripoli, S. Levent Sahin Kaya, the Turkish ambassador, said a Turkish hospital ship has left the Misurata port with 250 patients seriously injured in the fighting to take them for surgery abroad. The Qaddafi government had sought to direct the ship first to Tripoli or to postpone its trip for security, Ambassador Sahin Kaya said, but instead the Turkish government sent it directly to Misurata with the escort of ten F-16 fighters and a warship.

The humanitarian side is so important to us, the ambassador said. We are the only country able to speak with both sides, he said, referring to both the rebels and the Qaddafi government.

We think a cease-fire should be reached, and after a cease-fire a political solution can be discussed, he said. This is the Turkish position. He declined to address the details of any cease-fire talks.

About 50 foreign embassies remain open in Tripoli, including those of Turkey, Russia, Bulgaria, Ukraine and China as well as sub-Saharan African countries.

C. J. Chivers contributed reporting from Brega, Libya.

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Op maandag 4 april 2011 00:17 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
@yavanna die vertaling stond er al [ afbeelding ]

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Op maandag 4 april 2011 00:19 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Daar is hij weer. Van beneden naar boven...

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