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Air strikes hit military and civilian areas in Sabha, central Libya - state TV via Reuters
UPDATE 1-French forces destroy seven Libyan aircraft on ground
PARIS, March 26 (Reuters) - French warplanes have destroyed five Libyan military planes and two helicopters at Misrata air base in the past 24 hours, France's armed forces said.
Armed forces spokesman Thierry Burkhard said all seven Libyan aircraft were destroyed while on the ground at the base, near the insurgent-held town of Misrata, as they were preparing to carry out attacks in the area.
A patrol of French Rafale fighters, backed by an E2-C Hawkeye AWACS, carried out air strikes overnight and around 20 French planes supported by four tankers and an E3F AWACS struck targets during the day, the armed forces said in a statement.
Pro-Gaddafi forces had earlier pounded the town with tank, mortar and artillery fire that halted only as coalition aircraft appeared overhead, a rebel told Reuters.
The five planes destroyed at Misrata were Galeb fighter jets and the helicopters were MI-35's, the French armed forces said.
Two French and two Qatari Mirage 2000-5 jets carried out a joint surveillance mission of Libyan airspace from an air base on Crete, the statement also said.
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LIVE ANALISYS: #Sabha is a natural entry gate for paid mercenaries to enter Libya to fight for the forces loyal to Gaddafi
ANALISYS:Gaddafis brother-in-law and chief henchman of his Inner Circle, Al-Senussi, is a member of the Magariha tribe. #sabha
Air strikes hit military and civilian areas in Sabha, central Libya - state TV via Reuters
UPDATE 1-French forces destroy seven Libyan aircraft on ground
PARIS, March 26 (Reuters) - French warplanes have destroyed five Libyan military planes and two helicopters at Misrata air base in the past 24 hours, France's armed forces said.
Armed forces spokesman Thierry Burkhard said all seven Libyan aircraft were destroyed while on the ground at the base, near the insurgent-held town of Misrata, as they were preparing to carry out attacks in the area.
A patrol of French Rafale fighters, backed by an E2-C Hawkeye AWACS, carried out air strikes overnight and around 20 French planes supported by four tankers and an E3F AWACS struck targets during the day, the armed forces said in a statement.
Pro-Gaddafi forces had earlier pounded the town with tank, mortar and artillery fire that halted only as coalition aircraft appeared overhead, a rebel told Reuters.
The five planes destroyed at Misrata were Galeb fighter jets and the helicopters were MI-35's, the French armed forces said.
Two French and two Qatari Mirage 2000-5 jets carried out a joint surveillance mission of Libyan airspace from an air base on Crete, the statement also said.
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LIVE ANALISYS: #Sabha is a natural entry gate for paid mercenaries to enter Libya to fight for the forces loyal to Gaddafi
ANALISYS:Gaddafis brother-in-law and chief henchman of his Inner Circle, Al-Senussi, is a member of the Magariha tribe. #sabha
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Ik vraag me af wat voor schade een vliegtuig aan de grond kan aanbrengen.quote:Op zaterdag 26 maart 2011 23:31 schreef svann het volgende:
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Dat valt onder resolutie 1973, die behalve een vliegverbod boven Libië alle VN-lidstaten machtigde om, met uitsluiting van een buitenlandse bezettingsmacht op Libisch grondgebied, alle noodzakelijke maatregelen te nemen voor de bescherming van de burgerbevolking in Libië.
En aangezien meneer G. en de zijnen alle mogelijke middelen aanwenden om de burgerbevolking te treffen...
Als zo'n vliegtuig opstijgt, uit de lucht halen dat ding, daar is een NFZ voor.
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00:09 DIRECT from Misratah Gaddafis forces have stopped firing after a number of explosions were heard across the city. Fighter jets be heard flying over the city right now
23:44 DIRECT from Misratah Snipers still present from Al Quweiri store crossroads till the end of Tripoli street. There is currently an exchange of gunfire between them and the revolutionaries
23:44 CONFIRMED from Tripoli We received confirmation from Tripoli that the fuel situation is now at the edge of breaking point. Queues for petrol/gas have reached record lengths and fuel is being rationed severely. The same issue is present with cooking gas (sold in refillable canisters). It is expected that the city will run out of both within the next 2 days
00:09 DIRECT from Misratah Gaddafis forces have stopped firing after a number of explosions were heard across the city. Fighter jets be heard flying over the city right now
23:44 DIRECT from Misratah Snipers still present from Al Quweiri store crossroads till the end of Tripoli street. There is currently an exchange of gunfire between them and the revolutionaries
23:44 CONFIRMED from Tripoli We received confirmation from Tripoli that the fuel situation is now at the edge of breaking point. Queues for petrol/gas have reached record lengths and fuel is being rationed severely. The same issue is present with cooking gas (sold in refillable canisters). It is expected that the city will run out of both within the next 2 days
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De gemiddelde Libiër is een stuk westerse en beter opgeleid dan de gemiddelde Afgaan.quote:
Dat is een baardman. Dat belooft weinig goeds. En Libie is een stuk dichter bij dan Afganistan.
Ik denk en hoop dat het niet zo'n vaart loopt.
Democratie lost natuurlijk maar een deel van hun problemen op.
Dat wordt nog een hele uitdaging.
Een vliegtuig dat van Misrata airport opstijgt is natuurlijk eerder boven Misrata-stad dan een of andere jager die nog moet opstijgen.quote:
Ik vraag me af wat voor schade een vliegtuig aan de grond kan aanbrengen.
Als zo'n vliegtuig opstijgt, uit de lucht halen dat ding, daar is een NFZ voor.
Aangezien Gaddafi nu al weken probeert zoveel mogelijk schade aan te richten en alles op alles aan het zetten is om Misrata te heroveren, vind ik het geen vreemde actie van de geallieerden.
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Armed forces spokesman Thierry Burkhard said all seven Libyan aircraft were destroyed while on the ground at the base, near the insurgent-held town of Misrata, as they were preparing to carry out attacks in the area.
Ook zonder dat was het imo wel verstandig gezien de hekele status van Misrata.
[ Bericht 7% gewijzigd door svann op 27-03-2011 00:27:01 ]
Hond, geitjes en nu een kat. 
A curious cat. Photo by Sipa Press
The soap continues...
Helikopter landde op verkeerde plaats (RTL)
A curious cat. Photo by Sipa Press
The soap continues...
Helikopter landde op verkeerde plaats (RTL)
quote:De werknemer van Haskoning waarschuwde Defensie dus dat er bij de evacuatieplek naast een hotel en resort voor Khadaffi-aanhangers ook nog een paleis voor de Libische leider stond. Sirte is de geboorteplaats van Khadaffi. Bovendien had de Kustwacht een permanent station in de haven.
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quote:
Hond, geitjes en nu een kat.
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A curious cat. Photo by Sipa Press
En de opgehaalde man zat voor hij opgehaald werdt vrolijk te kletsen met jan en alleman over de komende evacuatie per helikopter. Dat het geheim was was hem niet verteld oid.quote:
Ongelooflijk hoeveel fouten zijn gemaakt, onnodige fouten.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
PLZ RT a press release concerning what happened to Iman El Obeidi by my friends at Democratic Libya Information Bureau.. How much more of this can we take??!
Tripoli-Benghasi, March 26th, 2011 - (Democratic Libya Information Bureau) During the opening days of the Libyan uprising Saif Al Islam Gaddafi invited the international media to come to Tripoli and see for themselves that the people are with the regime. At the time, the regimes narrative was that there was nothing going on at all and that the uprising was somehow the concoction of Al Jazeera. It has since morphed into a combination of Al Qaida infiltration; western imperialism and youths high on Tramadol, a painkiller whose only side effects are constipation and drowsiness.
It is no secret that the international press have effectively been under house arrest ever since they arrived. Their purpose, as far as the regime is concerned, is to film government press releases and conduct interviews with the Tyrant and his sons. Occasionally, they would be taken on a tightly choreographed field trip to see pro Gaddafi supporters chanting and singing. The fate of some of the journalists who have ventured out without government permission has been detention, deportation, torture and some have simply disappeared without a trace.
Today the regimes attempt to keep journalists from witnessing the truth backfired when the truth came to them. Iman El-Obeidi, a Libyan national, stormed into The Rixos Hotel, one the hotels housing the international press, to show the world her wounds and bruises and tell the journalists that she had been raped by no less than 15 Gaddafi thugs. El-Obeidi was pounced on by security officials who then stuffed her into a car as she yelled that they were taking her to prison. Even more disturbing was the reaction of the staff at the Rixos hotel some of whom picked up table knives and threatened the panicked woman whilst others attempted to cover her face and silence her in any way they could. Journalists attempting to intervene on her behalf were kicked and beaten by government officials. Footage of the incident has since been shown on several news networks. The government later blamed the incident on the womans mental state and claimed that she was drunk, adding two new elements to their twisted narrative. Iman El-Obeids fate remains unknown. However, what is known is that she is a hero of the Libyan uprising. She showed great strength and courage in the face of the oppressors and we pray for her safety.
The Gaddafi regime has committed almost every conceivable crime against the Libyan people. In Zawiya the tyrant has even managed to commit crimes against the dead by exhuming bodies of victims so as to leave no trace of the crimes committed. The regime has kidnapped over 20,000 men between the ages of 15 and 60. They have stormed hospital wards and thrown the wounded from the windows. Thugs have looted shops destroyed homes and raped women all in the name of the great King of Kings.
Yesterday, in what can only be described as a sick joke, the regimes delegation to the African Union meeting said that it is now ready for a ceasefire and to talk to the pro democracy revolutionaries about their legitimate demands. If our demands have not been clear we would like to take this opportunity to clarify them once and for all. We demand the unconditional surrender of the Gaddafi regime, the prosecution of all those responsible for the crimes committed against the Libyan people and a transition to democracy. These are the only terms we are prepared to offer and these are the only terms we are prepared to accept.
Democratic Libya Information Bureau
citizensforademocraticlibya@gmail.com
Tripoli-Benghasi, March 26th, 2011 - (Democratic Libya Information Bureau) During the opening days of the Libyan uprising Saif Al Islam Gaddafi invited the international media to come to Tripoli and see for themselves that the people are with the regime. At the time, the regimes narrative was that there was nothing going on at all and that the uprising was somehow the concoction of Al Jazeera. It has since morphed into a combination of Al Qaida infiltration; western imperialism and youths high on Tramadol, a painkiller whose only side effects are constipation and drowsiness.
It is no secret that the international press have effectively been under house arrest ever since they arrived. Their purpose, as far as the regime is concerned, is to film government press releases and conduct interviews with the Tyrant and his sons. Occasionally, they would be taken on a tightly choreographed field trip to see pro Gaddafi supporters chanting and singing. The fate of some of the journalists who have ventured out without government permission has been detention, deportation, torture and some have simply disappeared without a trace.
Today the regimes attempt to keep journalists from witnessing the truth backfired when the truth came to them. Iman El-Obeidi, a Libyan national, stormed into The Rixos Hotel, one the hotels housing the international press, to show the world her wounds and bruises and tell the journalists that she had been raped by no less than 15 Gaddafi thugs. El-Obeidi was pounced on by security officials who then stuffed her into a car as she yelled that they were taking her to prison. Even more disturbing was the reaction of the staff at the Rixos hotel some of whom picked up table knives and threatened the panicked woman whilst others attempted to cover her face and silence her in any way they could. Journalists attempting to intervene on her behalf were kicked and beaten by government officials. Footage of the incident has since been shown on several news networks. The government later blamed the incident on the womans mental state and claimed that she was drunk, adding two new elements to their twisted narrative. Iman El-Obeids fate remains unknown. However, what is known is that she is a hero of the Libyan uprising. She showed great strength and courage in the face of the oppressors and we pray for her safety.
The Gaddafi regime has committed almost every conceivable crime against the Libyan people. In Zawiya the tyrant has even managed to commit crimes against the dead by exhuming bodies of victims so as to leave no trace of the crimes committed. The regime has kidnapped over 20,000 men between the ages of 15 and 60. They have stormed hospital wards and thrown the wounded from the windows. Thugs have looted shops destroyed homes and raped women all in the name of the great King of Kings.
Yesterday, in what can only be described as a sick joke, the regimes delegation to the African Union meeting said that it is now ready for a ceasefire and to talk to the pro democracy revolutionaries about their legitimate demands. If our demands have not been clear we would like to take this opportunity to clarify them once and for all. We demand the unconditional surrender of the Gaddafi regime, the prosecution of all those responsible for the crimes committed against the Libyan people and a transition to democracy. These are the only terms we are prepared to offer and these are the only terms we are prepared to accept.
Democratic Libya Information Bureau
citizensforademocraticlibya@gmail.com
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Net ff snel een foto genomen van een Libische zender
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~François Fénelon
Gates beschuldigt Kadhafi
Robert Gates, Amerikaans minister van Defensie, heeft in het CBS-programma 'Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer' gezegd dat troepen van Kadhafi lichamen leggen op plaatsen waar bommen zijn ingeslagen. Gates baseert zich naar eigen zeggen op rapporten van Amerikaanse inlichtingendiensten. Daarin zou staan dat Kadhafi op die manier aan de wereld wil laten zien dat er burgerslachtoffers vallen bij de militaire acties tegen Libië.
Robert Gates, Amerikaans minister van Defensie, heeft in het CBS-programma 'Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer' gezegd dat troepen van Kadhafi lichamen leggen op plaatsen waar bommen zijn ingeslagen. Gates baseert zich naar eigen zeggen op rapporten van Amerikaanse inlichtingendiensten. Daarin zou staan dat Kadhafi op die manier aan de wereld wil laten zien dat er burgerslachtoffers vallen bij de militaire acties tegen Libië.
Mooi om die optimisme en hoop te zien van de rebellen, in hun gevecht tegen het regime.
Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl
is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.
is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.
Wat staat er? Of ging het om de zonnebrilman?quote:
Net ff snel een foto genomen van een Libische zender
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~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Libya may be placing corpses at bombed sites: Gates
(Reuters) - U.S. intelligence reports suggest that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's forces have placed the bodies of people they have killed at the sites of coalition air strikes so they can blame the West for the deaths, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said in a television interview on Saturday.
"We do have a lot of intelligence reporting about Gaddafi taking the bodies of the people he's killed and putting them at the sites where we've attacked," Gates said according to interview excerpts released by CBS News' "Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer" program, which will air on Sunday.
A U.S.-led coalition began air strikes against Libya a week ago to establish a no-fly zone over the oil-exporting North African country and to try to prevent Gaddafi from using his air force to attack people rebelling against his rule.
Last week Libyan officials said nearly 100 civilians had been killed in the coalition strikes, but Western military officials at the time denied any civilians had been killed.
"The truth of the matter is we have trouble coming up with proof of any civilian casualties that we have been responsible for," Gates said in the television interview.
Asked if Gaddafi's days were numbered, Gates replied: "I wouldn't be hanging any new pictures if I were him."
U.S. officials have said the goal of the military action is to protect civilians, not to topple Gaddafi, though they have made no secret of their desire for him to leave power.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, appearing on the same program, said there were signs that Gaddafi's aides were becoming increasingly nervous.
"The people around him, based on all of the intelligence and all of the outreach that we ourselves are getting from some of those very same people, demonstrate an enormous amount of anxiety," she said according to the interview excerpts.
(Reuters) - U.S. intelligence reports suggest that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's forces have placed the bodies of people they have killed at the sites of coalition air strikes so they can blame the West for the deaths, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said in a television interview on Saturday.
"We do have a lot of intelligence reporting about Gaddafi taking the bodies of the people he's killed and putting them at the sites where we've attacked," Gates said according to interview excerpts released by CBS News' "Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer" program, which will air on Sunday.
A U.S.-led coalition began air strikes against Libya a week ago to establish a no-fly zone over the oil-exporting North African country and to try to prevent Gaddafi from using his air force to attack people rebelling against his rule.
Last week Libyan officials said nearly 100 civilians had been killed in the coalition strikes, but Western military officials at the time denied any civilians had been killed.
"The truth of the matter is we have trouble coming up with proof of any civilian casualties that we have been responsible for," Gates said in the television interview.
Asked if Gaddafi's days were numbered, Gates replied: "I wouldn't be hanging any new pictures if I were him."
U.S. officials have said the goal of the military action is to protect civilians, not to topple Gaddafi, though they have made no secret of their desire for him to leave power.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, appearing on the same program, said there were signs that Gaddafi's aides were becoming increasingly nervous.
"The people around him, based on all of the intelligence and all of the outreach that we ourselves are getting from some of those very same people, demonstrate an enormous amount of anxiety," she said according to the interview excerpts.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Tom_Rayner
Spoken to Libyan Dep Foreign Minister Khalid Kaim re Iman Alabeidi -says 5 men now under arrest, 1 is son of a 'high ranking police officer'
Spoken to Libyan Dep Foreign Minister Khalid Kaim re Iman Alabeidi -says 5 men now under arrest, 1 is son of a 'high ranking police officer'
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Mooi dat heel veel mensen haar nu kennen, die normaal het nieuws niet zo volgen.quote:
Op Die kat kwam uit Brega, vergeten te plaatsen.
2019: The Great Awakening
Ach ja de Amerikaanse inlichtingendiensten die zijn gelukkig wel betrouwbaar.quote:
Gates beschuldigt Kadhafi
Robert Gates, Amerikaans minister van Defensie, heeft in het CBS-programma 'Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer' gezegd dat troepen van Kadhafi lichamen leggen op plaatsen waar bommen zijn ingeslagen. Gates baseert zich naar eigen zeggen op rapporten van Amerikaanse inlichtingendiensten. Daarin zou staan dat Kadhafi op die manier aan de wereld wil laten zien dat er burgerslachtoffers vallen bij de militaire acties tegen Libië.
Er is nog een boekenplank actief op ons mooie forum, dat is boekenplank. jawel deze creatieve geest jat mijn naam en zet er een punt achter. Deed hij dat laatste maar.
Ze doen maar wat.quote:
Mooi om die optimisme en hoop te zien van de rebellen, in hun gevecht tegen het regime.
Er is nog een boekenplank actief op ons mooie forum, dat is boekenplank. jawel deze creatieve geest jat mijn naam en zet er een punt achter. Deed hij dat laatste maar.
ohnoes it's mister cynical
I am a Chinese college students, I have a loving father, but I can not help him, he needs to do heart bypass surgery, I can not help him, because the cost of 100,000 or so needed, please help me, lifelong You pray Thank you!
Volgens mij gebruikt Gaddafi nog iets anders dan geweld tegen zn eigen volk. Er lopen echt totaalidioten bij en die heb ik nooit eerder gezien in andere landen in die regio. Dat hele Libië, je kan er een soap over maken man, alleen al die Gaddafi familie, maar sinds de opstand heb ik echt al 100 x keihard moeten lachen, hoe ernstig en triest het ook is.quote:
Zo zie je dus wat media doet. Deze beelden maken meer indruk dan duizenden lijken. Deze vrouw is, wat Neda voor de groene zomer in Iran was in 2009.quote:
Er zitten echt cowboys bij, heb het idee dat ze zelf ook in een roes zitten wat verder niet gek is.quote:
Ja, leuk maar wat willen de rebellen dan verder? Khadaffi weg en dan?quote:
Samenvatting van verschillende berichten.
Er is nog een boekenplank actief op ons mooie forum, dat is boekenplank. jawel deze creatieve geest jat mijn naam en zet er een punt achter. Deed hij dat laatste maar.
Kom je nu mee!quote:
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Ja, leuk maar wat willen de rebellen dan verder? Khadaffi weg en dan?
Alsof ik het weet wat er dan gaat gebeuren. Daar is (hier) al genoeg over geschreven maar het volk is in opstand gekomen en niet zonder reden. En laatste dat is ook wel gebleken. Ik geloof wel dat heel veel mensen hem haten. Maar de angst is te groot om het te uiten, nee da's lekker...
2019: The Great Awakening
Het Rixos Hotel in Tripoli zal wel bereikbaarheidsproblemen krijgen.
Zie oproepen het op te bellen en te faxen.
Men gaf een callingquadafi-pagina van de duitse piratenpartij site door met allerlei gegevens.
http://piratenpad.de/callingquadafi
Zie oproepen het op te bellen en te faxen.
Men gaf een callingquadafi-pagina van de duitse piratenpartij site door met allerlei gegevens.
http://piratenpad.de/callingquadafi
Niemand weet wat er gaat gebeuren en dat vindt Gaddafi heerlijk. Hoe groter de chaos, hoe creatiever ie kan zijn.
State tv haalt van alles uit de kast om Eman Al Obeidi zwart te maken.
Egyptocracy
LibyaTV: Any female who gets raped, would not go to the media and talk about it. #Libya #Gaddafi #women
All our girls who get pregnant out of marriage, their families would never tell. We are tribal people
EmanAlObeidi refused to film with us. She is not talking to Libyan channels.
EmanAlObeidi is a liar.
Even a whore shows patriotism at times of troubles.
EmanAlObeidi's sister says that Eman is mislead. \
We filmed #EmanAlObeidi without her knowing, and we will show you the footage tomorrow
EmanAlObeidi's sister Manal says she doesn't like Libyan channels and only watches AlArabiya and AlJazeera.
EmanAlObeidi swore at me and called me horrible names.
We want to help #EmanAlObeidi. If anyone hurt her like she claims then he should be brought to justice
Bent Libya, a female caller on LibyaTV: #EmanAlObeidi is disgraceful and a pagan
LibyaTV: We do not want to frame #EmanAlObeidi, we only want to bring you the truth
EmanAlObeidi refused to take the rape kit test. She refused to be examined by the medical examiner.
Although #EmanAlObeidi and her sister come from the same womb, but they are utterly different
My apologies to #'s sister for betraying her confidence and filming their conversation in secret.
We know the females of ElObaydeya tribe behave otherwise
Anchor Hala reading an email from Algeria, LibyaTV: Shame on #EmanAlObeidi for parading her intimate parts on TV.
Dit alles gezegd door Hala AlMusrati. ( 'Rat' past goed )
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Egyptocracy
I am always shocked to see that the harshest criticizers of female rape victims are females themselves.
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Egyptocracy
LibyaTV: Any female who gets raped, would not go to the media and talk about it. #Libya #Gaddafi #women
All our girls who get pregnant out of marriage, their families would never tell. We are tribal people
EmanAlObeidi refused to film with us. She is not talking to Libyan channels.
EmanAlObeidi is a liar.
Even a whore shows patriotism at times of troubles.
EmanAlObeidi's sister says that Eman is mislead. \
We filmed #EmanAlObeidi without her knowing, and we will show you the footage tomorrow
EmanAlObeidi's sister Manal says she doesn't like Libyan channels and only watches AlArabiya and AlJazeera.
EmanAlObeidi swore at me and called me horrible names.
We want to help #EmanAlObeidi. If anyone hurt her like she claims then he should be brought to justice
Bent Libya, a female caller on LibyaTV: #EmanAlObeidi is disgraceful and a pagan
LibyaTV: We do not want to frame #EmanAlObeidi, we only want to bring you the truth
EmanAlObeidi refused to take the rape kit test. She refused to be examined by the medical examiner.
Although #EmanAlObeidi and her sister come from the same womb, but they are utterly different
My apologies to #'s sister for betraying her confidence and filming their conversation in secret.
We know the females of ElObaydeya tribe behave otherwise
Anchor Hala reading an email from Algeria, LibyaTV: Shame on #EmanAlObeidi for parading her intimate parts on TV.
Dit alles gezegd door Hala AlMusrati. ( 'Rat' past goed )
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Egyptocracy
I am always shocked to see that the harshest criticizers of female rape victims are females themselves.
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~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Een democratisch experiment.quote:
Ja, leuk maar wat willen de rebellen dan verder? Khadaffi weg en dan?
Meer vrijheid, maar zullen ze andere verworvenheden van de georganiseerde maatschappij niet verliezen?
En wie gaat er met de grote staatspoet vandoor? Profiteren daar slechts enkelen van zoals in Rusland?
Ze hebben allerlei voorbeelden van hoe het niet moet, maar wat zal hun weg worden?
Ongetwijfeld het bekende met vallen en opstaan.
Ik ben voorzichtig optimistisch.
Op 
Op
Yup.quote:Op zondag 27 maart 2011 03:55 schreef remlof het volgende:
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Ah, http://twitter.com/#!/Egyptocracy dus.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Deze mensen offeren hun leven voor vrijheid, het is dan ook onzin om te stellen dat ze maar wat doen. Wat een flauwe kul.quote:
Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl
is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.
is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.
Kijk eens naast die man.quote:Op zondag 27 maart 2011 01:19 schreef yavanna het volgende:
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Wat staat er? Of ging het om de zonnebrilman?
Zo zenden zij hun programmas uit de hele dag. Op de ene helft Anti-AJ en de andere kant hun programering.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~François Fénelon
Hiervoor ben ik zelf nooit echt anti-Gadaffi geweest, totdat hij zijn eigen volk ging bestoken met artillery en luchtaanvallen. Maar op dit punt is alles beter dan Gadaffi, al hoop ik wel dat de Libiers voor democratie kiezen.quote:
Ja, leuk maar wat willen de rebellen dan verder? Khadaffi weg en dan?
Libya crisis: Five brothers who tell the human side of Gaddafi's war
En dat alles omdat G aan de macht wil blijven.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)of-Gaddafis-war.html
En dat alles omdat G aan de macht wil blijven.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)of-Gaddafis-war.html
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Snooker is top!!!
Snooker is top!!!
quote:http://www.volkskrant.nl/(...)ische-rebellen.dhtml
RAS LANUF - De Libische opstandelingen hebben de oostelijke stad Ras Lanuf onder controle. Dat hebben verslaggevers van het Franse persbureau AFP die ter plaatse zijn vandaag gemeld.
In Ras Lanuf staan belangrijke olie-installaties. De rebellen en het regeringsleger voerden twee weken geleden nog een felle strijd om controle over de stad, die uiteindelijk door de beter getrainde en bewapende troepen van kolonel Moammar Kadhafi werd gewonnen.
Dankzij de westerse luchtaanvallen die vorige week begonnen, konden de rebellen de afgelopen dagen weer de aanval kiezen nadat zij ver waren teruggedrongen. Zaterdag verdreven zij de regeringstroepen uit Ajdabiyah en heroverden zij ook de kustplaats Brega.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
Ze schieten alweer op, lees ik. De situatie is nu weer zoals het twee weken geleden was, voordat de regering versterkingen inriep. De opstandelingen hebben Ras Lanoef in handen en weten niet meer zeker hoe ze nu verder moeten gaan. Dat begrijp ik goed?
Heftig. Je familie letterlijk kapot gescheurd.quote:
Libya crisis: Five brothers who tell the human side of Gaddafi's war
En dat alles omdat G aan de macht wil blijven.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)of-Gaddafis-war.html
2019: The Great Awakening
Italy to propose joint plan with Germany on Libya (Reuters)
quote:* Plan sees ceasefire, humanitarian corridor, Gaddafi exile
* Europe needs to pick up "lost pieces" over Libya
* To be presented in London on Tuesday
2019: The Great Awakening
Exile.quote:
Italy to propose joint plan with Germany on Libya (Reuters)
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All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~François Fénelon
En de volgende stad is Sirte. Nu vind ik de legitimiteit van de aanvallen de de Libische overheid ueberhaupt al twijfelachtig, maar dit Al-Jazeera-stukje maakt goed duidelijk dat Sirte een bepalend moment wordt voor het Westen: wat gaan ze doen? Of ze helpen de rebellen door Sirte in te nemen, en schenden overduidelijk de resolutie en zorgen voor gevaar voor de Libische bevolking, of ze helpen niet en de rebellen zullen slechts heersen over een NAVO-protectoraat in het oosten van de Libische woestijn, iets wat de NAVO ongetwijfeld ook niet wil.quote:
Ze schieten alweer op, lees ik. De situatie is nu weer zoals het twee weken geleden was, voordat de regering versterkingen inriep. De opstandelingen hebben Ras Lanoef in handen en weten niet meer zeker hoe ze nu verder moeten gaan. Dat begrijp ik goed?
Interessant dus.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-27quote:The coalition forces can say everything they are doing is aimed at protecting civilians. But now it's not Gaddafi forces who are advancing, it's opposition forces advancing. The next big place on the map after Ras Lanuf is Sirte. Now that is a big city, it's Gaddafi's stronghold. If opposition fighters start advancing on that, how can you say it's Gaddafi's forces who are threatening civilians? Gaddafi's forces will be the ones holding the ground, and those that are advancing would be the opposition fighters. [It will be] much harder I think for the coalition then to act in favour of the opposition in the terms of that UN resolution.
Ik denk dat het een beetje te snel gaat, en het de vorige keer nu ook fout ging. Maar je ziet goed hoeveel verschil het maakt als er geen/weinig artillerie beschietingen zijn. Tja ze zitten nu redelijk veilig in Ra's Lanuf als er materiaal aan komt rollen dan wordt het eerder uitgeschakeld dan wat anders want er lijkt tussen Surt(Sirte) en Ra's Lanuf geen grote plaats van betekenis meer te zitten.
Dus het is wachten tot alle tegenstand uitgeschakeld is en dan voorzichtig Surt benaderen, en zorgen dat je bevoorradingslijnen niet worden afgesneden.
Dus het is wachten tot alle tegenstand uitgeschakeld is en dan voorzichtig Surt benaderen, en zorgen dat je bevoorradingslijnen niet worden afgesneden.
hoe is het gisteren in misrata afgelopen ? ( na dit soort berichten );
quote:Tripolitanian Libyan
CONFIRMED: #Gaddafi has sent busloads of mercenaries+tanks+grad missile launchers to #Misrata, if they don't receive help, city will fall!
CONFIRMED: Mercenaries arrived in plain clothes in city buses!
TheNewsBlotter Chris
Reuters: SHELLING BY PRO-GADDAFI FORCES IN MISRATA STOPPED WHEN WESTERN COALITION AIRCRAFT APPEARED-REBEL #Libya
dus de coalitie is komen helpen? is het er nu rustig??quote:00:09 DIRECT from Misratah Gaddafis forces have stopped firing after a number of explosions were heard across the city. Fighter jets be heard flying over the city right now
23:44 DIRECT from Misratah Snipers still present from Al Quweiri store crossroads till the end of Tripoli street. There is currently an exchange of gunfire between them and the revolutionaries
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