Oorlog in Libië #84: Vervolg De tweede nacht

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:17 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Geen idee of het waar is.,

NamikTan

The 4 @nytimes journalists are on their way to leave Libyan border and will be delivered to US officials.

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:20 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

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klopt, maar in eerste instantie zou ie het overleefd hebben , later in ziekenhuis aan brandwonden overleden , dus zou theoretisch nog steeds kunnen kloppen ....

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:21 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:

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Het verhaal klopt. Maar ik zie het nog steeds als een gerucht.

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:22 schreef sunny16947 het volgende:

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Zou dus heel goed waar kunnen zijn. Had Turkije zich niet opgeworpen de belangen van de US te behartigen.

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:24 schreef Hans_van_Baalen het volgende:
Ik las in de krant vanochtend dat sommige hoge piefen in het leger van de VS niet eens per se verwachten dat ie vertrekt. Volkskrant

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:25 schreef yavanna het volgende:

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Dat moeten ze ook wel zeggen, het is immers o.a. niet hun doel hem te verdrijven. ( in het openbaar iig ).

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Libya: Gaddafi attack depends on behaviour, says Hague
William Hague has said the goal of air strikes in Libya is to protect civilians - amid suggestions Col Muammar Gaddafi could be targeted.

The UK foreign secretary said he would not "speculate on the targets" but said it "all depends on how people behave".

The UN authorised "all necessary measures" to protect Libyan civilians.

US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has said it would be "unwise" to target Col Gaddafi but UK Defence Secretary Liam Fox has said it could be a possibility.

Mr Hague was pressed on whether UN resolution allowed for Col Gaddafi himself to be targeted in an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

He said it was "really not as straightforward as that" and any targeting had to "take account of the presence of civilians in an area".

He said the mission was "nothing more, or nothing less" than enforcing UN Resolution 1973 and Col Gaddafi would be judged "by his actions, not by words".

"We will see whether they implement a ceasefire, a genuine disengagement from fighting - we will look at that throughout today," he said.

"I think we will know a ceasefire when we see it... when it's genuinely being implemented rather than the pretence at a ceasefire that we've had over the last few days."
'A possibility'

Asked if Col Gaddafi could be targeted, Mr Hague said: "The targeting that we do in these kind of strikes will always be in accordance with the UN resolution, with an emphasis on protecting civilians.

"I'm not going to get into details of who or what might be targeted... all the things that are allowed depends on how people behave."
He added: "We take the greatest care to avoid civilian casualties, unlike Gaddafi who is happy to wage war on his own people."

In an interview with BBC Radio 5 live, Dr Fox was asked whether Col Gaddafi himself was a legitimate target. He replied: "Well, that would potentially be a possibility but you mention immediately one of the problems we would have, which is that you would have to take into account any civilian casualties that might result from that.

"And at all times we are very careful to avoid that for its humanitarian reasons, but also for the propaganda reasons that it would provide for the regime itself."

But US Defence Secretary Mr Gates said expanding the goal of protecting civilians could divide what he described as a "very diverse coalition".

"The one thing that there is common agreement on are the terms set forth in the Security Council resolution.

"If we start adding additional objectives then I think we create a problem in that respect.

"I also think it is unwise to set as specific goals things that you may or may not be able to achieve," he said.

Former Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell told the BBC the UN resolution made no provision for Col Gaddafi himself to be targeted - and could not have done so under the UN's own charter.

But he said: "I think the position is likely to be that there will be no deliberate effort to target Col Gaddafi but if he is directing operations, let's say, from a command and control centre which is being used to order further attacks on civilians by his own forces and he happens to be there when that command and control centre is taken out, then people will regard that, if you like, as being an acceptable consequence."

MPs are to debate the UK's involvement in military action in Libya later, culminating in a vote at about 2200 GMT in the Commons.

The debate - in which Mr Cameron will update MPs on the state of military operations - is expected to begin at about 1530 GMT and continue into the evening.

UK forces have taken part in a second night of missile strikes against Libya.

Tomahawk missiles were launched from a British submarine in the Mediterranean, but RAF Tornado bombers aborted their mission because civilians were in the area of their target.

The UK is part of an international coalition, including the US and France, trying to protect civilians from attacks by Col Gaddafi's forces.

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:34 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

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nouhjah als het aan Liam Fox ligt is er zelfs een mogelijkheid dat Gadaffi zelf letterlijk een "target" word

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BBC
1133: Britain's Chief of the Defence staff, Gen Sir David Richards, says Col Gaddafi is "absolutely not" a target for military action. Speaking after a meeting in Downing Street he told the BBC: "It's not allowed under the UN resolution."\r

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:40 schreef sunny16947 het volgende:

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Klein nuance verschil.

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:44 schreef sunny16947 het volgende:

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At the wrong place at the wrong time. Ja dat kan ook nog.

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:50 schreef lipjes het volgende:
er cirkelt hier nu boven etten-leur nu ook een apache rond
voortekenen?

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:50 schreef lipjes het volgende:
er cirkelt hier nu boven etten-leur nu ook een apache rond
voortekenen?

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:51 schreef lutser.com het volgende:

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Misschien verschuilt gadaffi zich daar ergens in de buurt?

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:52 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:

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Ga maar schuilen, zo meteen komen de Tomahawks.

Maar het zal wel niks zijn, op dit moment is er weinig te doen voor Apaches in Libië.

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Op maandag 21 maart 2011 12:17 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Geen idee of het waar is.,

NamikTan

The 4 @nytimes journalists are on their way to leave Libyan border and will be delivered to US officials.

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Update (12:47) Namik Tan, de Turkse ambassadeur van de Verenigde Staten, heeft op Twitter geschreven dat de vier journalisten van The New York Times, die gevangen zaten in Libië, vrij zijn gelaten:

@NamikTan: 4 @nytimes journalists captured by forces loyal to Gadhafi are released this morning, after Turkey's negoatiations with Libyan officials.
Mar 21, 2011 @ 11:03 AM from Twitter for iPhone