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Hij wil natuurlijk wat vaker Richard Quest in beeld.quote:Op zondag 20 maart 2011 16:28 schreef Chuck-N0rr1s het volgende:
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niet zo in de aanval, het wordt 1x geoppert. was het elk uur raak ok, maar je bent nu wel erg snel
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Hij wil natuurlijk wat vaker Richard Quest in beeld.
(Reuters) - The top U.S. military officer on Sunday said aircraft from Qatar were moving into position near Libya to participate in the Western military operation that has effectively established a no-fly zone.
"There are forces, airplanes in particular from Qatar, that are moving into position as we speak, into theater. There are other countries who have committed, although I'd rather have them publicly announce that commitment," he said in an interview with CBS' "Face the Nation" program.
"There are forces, airplanes in particular from Qatar, that are moving into position as we speak, into theater. There are other countries who have committed, although I'd rather have them publicly announce that commitment," he said in an interview with CBS' "Face the Nation" program.
Uhm, dit soort onzin wordt wel zeker erg vaak gezegd.quote:
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niet zo in de aanval, het wordt 1x geoppert. was het elk uur raak ok, maar je bent nu wel erg snel
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Jij doet echt niets anders dan daare over zeuren he? Vanochtend ook al.quote:Op zondag 20 maart 2011 16:27 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:
Die berichten van 'die zwarte chick op CNN en die blanke vrouw op AJE' kunnen wel achterwege gelaten worden. Daar heeft niemand wat aan en die posts vervuilen alleen maar het topic. Natuurlijk moet dat een keertje gezegd kunnen worden. Maar niet om de haverklap.
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Hij wil natuurlijk wat vaker Richard Quest in beeld.
Ik post in het MO subforum al wat maanden mee. En ik ben het nog maar 1x eerder tegengekomen. En nu kom ik het om de haverklap tegen. Dat komt vooral omdat de trollen het MO subforum ook hebben ontdekt.quote:
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niet zo in de aanval, het wordt 1x geoppert. was het elk uur raak ok, maar je bent nu wel erg snel
Zoon van Tolmai.
ik post ook sinds het begin van MO ook mee, (meer lezen en TVPén), maar het is nu wel erg met de trollenquote:Op zondag 20 maart 2011 16:29 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:
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Ik post in het MO subforum al wat maanden mee. En ik ben het nog maar 1x eerder tegengekomen. En nu kom ik het om de haverklap tegen. Dat komt vooral omdat de trollen het MO subforum ook hebben ontdekt.
Yemen en Syrie wordt de situatie ook steeds gewelddadiger ....
I don't trust books. They're all facts and no heart
Online poker is more addicting than snorting cocaine off Jessica Alba’s tits
Sam Querrey en John Isner, culthelden in wording!
Online poker is more addicting than snorting cocaine off Jessica Alba’s tits
Sam Querrey en John Isner, culthelden in wording!
Idd, jammer dat de media zich max op 1 'ramp' richt.quote:
Yemen en Syrie wordt de situatie ook steeds gewelddadiger ....
Japan wordt toch ook regelmatig in beeld gebracht?quote:
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Idd, jammer dat de media zich max op 1 'ramp' richt.
bungdan
benghazi is very calm. Just arrived an hour ago. Accounts of a major retreat of Q folks towards Ajdadiya hours ago. #libya
benghazi is very calm. Just arrived an hour ago. Accounts of a major retreat of Q folks towards Ajdadiya hours ago. #libya
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Oke.quote:
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ik post ook sinds het begin van MO ook mee, (meer lezen en TVPén), maar het is nu wel erg met de trollen
Zoon van Tolmai.
Ja maar een stuk minder dan een week geleden heb ik het idee; en toen hoorde je van Libië weer weinig.quote:
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Japan wordt toch ook regelmatig in beeld gebracht?
Al kan het ook aan mij liggen hoor, ik richt me ook maar op 1 ramp tegelijk eigenlijk.
Massale pro-overheid rally in Syrie. Ik plaats straks wel wat filmpjes in het Syrie-topic.quote:Op zondag 20 maart 2011 16:30 schreef The_BoezelaaR het volgende:
Yemen en Syrie wordt de situatie ook steeds gewelddadiger ....
Toevallig georganiseerd door de overheid zelf?quote:
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Massale pro-overheid rally in Syrie. Ik plaats straks wel wat filmpjes in het Syrie-topic.
Juist niet. Zijn hele theorie van islam is dictatuur of islamofascisme valt in duigen.quote:Op zondag 20 maart 2011 16:20 schreef Averroes het volgende:
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Die lacht zich kapot. Moslims die tegen Moslims vechten is voor hem epic win!
Laten we maar even afwachten wat de nieuwe regimes gaan brengen...quote:
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Juist niet. Zijn hele theorie van islam is dictatuur of islamofascisme valt in duigen.
Nu dan 4 NYT journos, 4 AJ journos en 2 AFP journos gevangen of vermist.
Two AFP journalists missing in Libya since Friday
TOBRUK, Libya (AFP) Agence France-Presse journalists Dave Clark and Roberto Schmidt, have been missing since Saturday morning in Libya while working in the eastern Tobruk region, the agency said Sunday.
Clark, a 38-year-old reporter, and photographer Schmidt, 45, had informed the agency in an email on Friday of their plans to head 35 kilometres (22 miles) out of Tobruk.
They planned on meeting opponents of the regime of Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi and speaking with refugees fleeing the battles between rebels and the loyalists.
Clark and Schmidt were accompanied by a photographer from the Getty Images agency, Joe Raedle.
The three journalists have not been heard of since sending the email Friday night.
Paris-based Clark has been in Libya since March 8 while Schmidt, who normally works out of the Nairobi bureau, arrived in Libya on February 28.
Since the February 15 start of the insurrection against Kadhafi's regime, a number of foreign journalists have been arrested in Libya.
The authorities in Tripoli said they are holding four New York Times journalists after they went missing in the east of the country last Tuesday.
The paper said they were to be freed on Friday but there has been no confirmation that they were indeed released.
On Saturday the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera satellite television said that four of its journalists, including a Norwegian and a Briton, are being held in Tripoli after being arrested in Libya's west.
Al-Jazeera cameraman Ali Hassan al-Jaber was killed on March 12 in an ambush near the rebel stronghold of Benghazi -- the first reported death by a foreign media of a journalist in Libya since the start of the uprising.
Two AFP journalists missing in Libya since Friday
TOBRUK, Libya (AFP) Agence France-Presse journalists Dave Clark and Roberto Schmidt, have been missing since Saturday morning in Libya while working in the eastern Tobruk region, the agency said Sunday.
Clark, a 38-year-old reporter, and photographer Schmidt, 45, had informed the agency in an email on Friday of their plans to head 35 kilometres (22 miles) out of Tobruk.
They planned on meeting opponents of the regime of Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi and speaking with refugees fleeing the battles between rebels and the loyalists.
Clark and Schmidt were accompanied by a photographer from the Getty Images agency, Joe Raedle.
The three journalists have not been heard of since sending the email Friday night.
Paris-based Clark has been in Libya since March 8 while Schmidt, who normally works out of the Nairobi bureau, arrived in Libya on February 28.
Since the February 15 start of the insurrection against Kadhafi's regime, a number of foreign journalists have been arrested in Libya.
The authorities in Tripoli said they are holding four New York Times journalists after they went missing in the east of the country last Tuesday.
The paper said they were to be freed on Friday but there has been no confirmation that they were indeed released.
On Saturday the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera satellite television said that four of its journalists, including a Norwegian and a Briton, are being held in Tripoli after being arrested in Libya's west.
Al-Jazeera cameraman Ali Hassan al-Jaber was killed on March 12 in an ambush near the rebel stronghold of Benghazi -- the first reported death by a foreign media of a journalist in Libya since the start of the uprising.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Update (16:33) Admiraal Mike Mullen benadrukt dat de doelen van de militaire missie bereikt zouden kunnen worden zonder dat Gaddafi verdreven wordt. Dat is zeker een mogelijke afloop. (NBC)
There are only 151 Pokémon.
Nee.quote:Op zondag 20 maart 2011 16:34 schreef Averroes het volgende:
Toevallig georganiseerd door de overheid zelf?
quote:Why Libya 2011 is not Iraq 2003
Editor's note: Peter Bergen is the director of the national security studies program at the New America Foundation in Washington; a fellow at New York University's Center on Law and Security; and CNN's national security analyst. He is the author of the new book, "The Longest War: The Enduring Conflict between America and Al-Qaeda."
(CNN) -- A critique of the U.S. involvement in the military intervention in Libya that will no doubt be common in coming days is that the Obama administration is making a large error by embarking on a war with a third Muslim country, as if reversing Moammar Gadhafi's momentum against the rebels will be a rerun of the debacle of the war against Saddam Hussein.
A further element of this view is that -- whatever the outcome of the Libyan intervention -- the United States' standing in the Islamic world will once again be severely damaged by an attack on a Muslim nation.
There are, of course, some real similarities between Hussein and Gadhafi -- both ruthless and erratic dictators of oil-rich regimes who fought bloody wars with their neighbors, brutalized their own populations, sought weapons of mass destruction, and sired some equally unattractive sons and heirs.
The déjà vu quality of the Libyan situation may help account for recent polls taken before the intervention which found that while Americans were either split or slightly in favor of imposing a no-fly zone over Libya, most were opposed to stronger U.S. military action.
The military intervention that President Obama authorized against Libya on Saturday...is a quite different operation than the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
But the military intervention that President Obama authorized against Libya on Saturday -- eight years to the day after President George W. Bush announced the commencement of "Operation Iraqi Freedom" -- is a quite different operation than the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Beyond the obvious difference that Obama has not authorized the use of U.S. ground forces in Libya, there are several other differences to consider:
First, the Obama administration was handed a gift by the Arab League, which in its more than six-decade history has garnered a well-earned reputation as a feckless talking shop, but unusually took a stand one week ago by endorsing a no-fly zone over Libya.
That endorsement put the Arab League way out in front of the Obama administration, which was then dithering about whether to do anything of substance to help the rebels fighting Gadhafi.
The unexpected action by the Arab League gave the administration the impetus and diplomatic cover to then go to the United Nations Security Council to secure a broad resolution endorsing not only a no-fly zone, but also allowing member states to "take all necessary measures" to protect civilians in Libya.
This U.N. resolution is reminiscent of the one that President George H.W. Bush secured in November 1990, which gave Iraq six weeks to withdraw from Kuwait following Hussein's invasion of that country. The U.N. resolution in 1990 similarly empowered states to use "all necessary means" to force Iraq out of Kuwait if Hussein ignored the deadline.
The similarities do not end there. The coalition that massed to drive Hussein out of Kuwait involved significant forces from major Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. So too the Libyan no-fly zone will be enforced by the United Arab Emirates and Jordan, along with western powers such as France and the U.K.
This is all quite in contrast to George W. Bush's ineffectual attempts to gather international support for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. There was no U.N. resolution explicitly authorizing the use of military force against Hussein, and no Muslim countries participated in the American invasion and occupation of Iraq.
Indeed, before the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Turkish parliament voted against allowing American troops passage across Turkey to invade northern Iraq, which put a wrench in U.S. military planning.
Underlining the fact that the Iraq War was widely viewed as illegitimate by Muslim countries, the same year that Turkey voted against allowing American soldiers to use its soil to attack Iraq, Turkish soldiers were also leading the International Security Assistance Force helping to keep the peace in post-Taliban Afghanistan, a military operation that was also authorized by the United Nations and was not seen as illegitimate by much of the Muslim world.
The Bush administration's largely unilateral decision to go to war in Iraq (the U.K. and a few other nations provided troops) undermined America's standing in Islamic countries. A poll taken a few months after the 2003 invasion found that Indonesians, Jordanians, Turks, and Moroccans all expressed more "confidence" that Osama bin Laden would "do the right thing" than that Bush would.
According to a poll four years later, America's favorability rating stood at 9% in Turkey (down from 52% before September 11, 2001) and 29% in Indonesia (down from 75% before September 11).
The high level of anti-Americanism in the Muslim world that was generated by the Iraq War is unlikely to be replicated by U.S. military action against Libya, because Gadhafi is widely reviled in the Arab world. His antics on the world stage have earned him the enmity of even his fellow autocrats -- who will not be welcoming him if he chooses to "retire" to Saudi Arabia as other murderous dictators of his ilk have in the past (think Idi Amin).
And the fact that both the Arab League and the United Nations have endorsed a military action against Gadhafi strongly suggests that the Libyan intervention will not generate a renewed wave of anti-Americanism in the Muslim world.
Instead, it underlines a striking feature of the protests that have roiled the Middle East in the past several weeks: Strikingly absent from those protests has been the ritualized burning of American flags, something that hitherto was largely pro forma in that part of the world. That's because Arabs have finally been able to express publicly that their biggest enemy is not the United States, but their own rulers.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Peter Bergen.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Wilders zegt dat een democratie nooit gaat werken in een land met een sterk islamitische aanhang, hoe graag sommigen het daar ook willen.quote:
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Juist niet. Zijn hele theorie van islam is dictatuur of islamofascisme valt in duigen.
Laten we eerst maar 'ns afwachten wat we gaan krijgen in Egypte; helaas ben ik er niet gerust op..
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616)
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616)
Als Mubarak geen echte dictator was zijn de demonstrante blij met een dooie mus. Ik wens ze veel succes.quote:
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Eerst maar 'ns afwachten wat we gaan krijgen in Egypte; helaas ben ik er niet gerust op..
542: A Libyan military official tells Reuters the air strikes hit the Al Watyah airbase 100 miles (170km) south-west of Tripoli, damaging some of its anti-aircraft defences.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
1) Libya is ten eerst een behoorlijk grote landquote:
Why Libya 2011 is not Iraq 2003
Editor's note: Peter Bergen is the director of the national security studies program at the New America Foundation in Washington; a fellow at New York University's Center on Law and Security; and CNN's national security analyst. He is the author of the new book, "The Longest War: The Enduring Conflict between America and Al-Qaeda."
(CNN) -- A critique of the U.S. involvement in the military intervention in Libya that will no doubt be common in coming days is that the Obama administration is making a large error by embarking on a war with a third Muslim country, as if reversing Moammar Gadhafi's momentum against the rebels will be a rerun of the debacle of the war against Saddam Hussein.
A further element of this view is that -- whatever the outcome of the Libyan intervention -- the United States' standing in the Islamic world will once again be severely damaged by an attack on a Muslim nation.
There are, of course, some real similarities between Hussein and Gadhafi -- both ruthless and erratic dictators of oil-rich regimes who fought bloody wars with their neighbors, brutalized their own populations, sought weapons of mass destruction, and sired some equally unattractive sons and heirs.
The déjà vu quality of the Libyan situation may help account for recent polls taken before the intervention which found that while Americans were either split or slightly in favor of imposing a no-fly zone over Libya, most were opposed to stronger U.S. military action.
The military intervention that President Obama authorized against Libya on Saturday...is a quite different operation than the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
But the military intervention that President Obama authorized against Libya on Saturday -- eight years to the day after President George W. Bush announced the commencement of "Operation Iraqi Freedom" -- is a quite different operation than the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Beyond the obvious difference that Obama has not authorized the use of U.S. ground forces in Libya, there are several other differences to consider:
First, the Obama administration was handed a gift by the Arab League, which in its more than six-decade history has garnered a well-earned reputation as a feckless talking shop, but unusually took a stand one week ago by endorsing a no-fly zone over Libya.
That endorsement put the Arab League way out in front of the Obama administration, which was then dithering about whether to do anything of substance to help the rebels fighting Gadhafi.
The unexpected action by the Arab League gave the administration the impetus and diplomatic cover to then go to the United Nations Security Council to secure a broad resolution endorsing not only a no-fly zone, but also allowing member states to "take all necessary measures" to protect civilians in Libya.
This U.N. resolution is reminiscent of the one that President George H.W. Bush secured in November 1990, which gave Iraq six weeks to withdraw from Kuwait following Hussein's invasion of that country. The U.N. resolution in 1990 similarly empowered states to use "all necessary means" to force Iraq out of Kuwait if Hussein ignored the deadline.
The similarities do not end there. The coalition that massed to drive Hussein out of Kuwait involved significant forces from major Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. So too the Libyan no-fly zone will be enforced by the United Arab Emirates and Jordan, along with western powers such as France and the U.K.
This is all quite in contrast to George W. Bush's ineffectual attempts to gather international support for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. There was no U.N. resolution explicitly authorizing the use of military force against Hussein, and no Muslim countries participated in the American invasion and occupation of Iraq.
Indeed, before the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Turkish parliament voted against allowing American troops passage across Turkey to invade northern Iraq, which put a wrench in U.S. military planning.
Underlining the fact that the Iraq War was widely viewed as illegitimate by Muslim countries, the same year that Turkey voted against allowing American soldiers to use its soil to attack Iraq, Turkish soldiers were also leading the International Security Assistance Force helping to keep the peace in post-Taliban Afghanistan, a military operation that was also authorized by the United Nations and was not seen as illegitimate by much of the Muslim world.
The Bush administration's largely unilateral decision to go to war in Iraq (the U.K. and a few other nations provided troops) undermined America's standing in Islamic countries. A poll taken a few months after the 2003 invasion found that Indonesians, Jordanians, Turks, and Moroccans all expressed more "confidence" that Osama bin Laden would "do the right thing" than that Bush would.
According to a poll four years later, America's favorability rating stood at 9% in Turkey (down from 52% before September 11, 2001) and 29% in Indonesia (down from 75% before September 11).
The high level of anti-Americanism in the Muslim world that was generated by the Iraq War is unlikely to be replicated by U.S. military action against Libya, because Gadhafi is widely reviled in the Arab world. His antics on the world stage have earned him the enmity of even his fellow autocrats -- who will not be welcoming him if he chooses to "retire" to Saudi Arabia as other murderous dictators of his ilk have in the past (think Idi Amin).
And the fact that both the Arab League and the United Nations have endorsed a military action against Gadhafi strongly suggests that the Libyan intervention will not generate a renewed wave of anti-Americanism in the Muslim world.
Instead, it underlines a striking feature of the protests that have roiled the Middle East in the past several weeks: Strikingly absent from those protests has been the ritualized burning of American flags, something that hitherto was largely pro forma in that part of the world. That's because Arabs have finally been able to express publicly that their biggest enemy is not the United States, but their own rulers.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Peter Bergen.
2) Libya is jarenlang gesteund door hetzelfde Westen dat hem nu aanvalt : op militaire en economische vlak
3) Weet niet zeker of opstandeling Libiers Westerse interventie op prijs stellen, want dan is die eer hen ontnomen
4) Khadaffi heeft vrienden in buurlanden in Afrika
5) Khadaffi kan Al Qaede om hulp vragen
Dat is in een notendop de problemen die we hebben
Khaddafi kan Al-Qaida niet om hulp vragen, want hij beschuldig hun ervan dat ze de bevolking hebben opgehitst. Dus ik weet bijna zeker dat Al-Qaida boos is op Khaddafi omdat Khaddafi hun in het kwaad daglicht zet.quote:
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1) Libya is ten eerst een behoorlijk grote land
2) Libya is jarenlang gesteund door hetzelfde Westen dat hem nu aanvalt : op militaire en economische vlak
3) Weet niet zeker of opstandeling Libiers Westerse interventie op prijs stellen, want dan is die eer hen ontnomen
4) Khadaffi heeft vrienden in buurlanden in Afrika
5) Khadaffi kan Al Qaede om hulp vragen
Dat is in een notendop de problemen die we hebben
Zoon van Tolmai.
Update (16:38) Een anonieme Libische militaire functionaris bevestigt dat de Al-Watyah basis (170 km. ten zuidwesten van Tripoli) bestookt is met westerse raketten en dat er enige schade is aangericht aan het luchtafweergeschut. (Reuters)
There are only 151 Pokémon.
Rusland en China die weer praatjes hebben dan hadden jullie tegen moeten stemmen sjappies.
dan hadden jullie tegen moeten stemmen sjappies.
Station Arnhem foto's: http://www.flickr.com/photos/temlin/
Sjjjjj breng ze niet op ideeën sukkelquote:Op zondag 20 maart 2011 16:50 schreef Temlin het volgende:
Rusland en China die weer praatjes hebben
Wat een domme reactie. We zijn niet tegen de arabische landen ook niet Tegen libya zelfs. We zijn tegen een dictator en wij willen het Libische volk helpen. Leer nuanceren.quote:
Europa en Amerika tegen de arabische landen, Rusland en china. Mooie verdeling toch ?
Zo denken wij, maar zo denken hun nietquote:
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Wat een domme reactie. We zijn niet tegen de arabische landen ook niet Tegen libya zelfs. We zijn tegen een dictator en wij willen het Libische volk helpen. Leer nuanceren.
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Zo denken wij, maar zo denken hun niet
Ik irriteer me trouwens meer aan al die zogenaamde verheven personen ("ik post hier echt al superlang hur") die iedereen met een afwijkende mening een troll noemen dan aan de zogenaamde trollen zelf. Die eerste groep mensen zie ik het forum meer vervuilen dan de tweede.
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Update 16:52 Naast reeds genoemde AFP-journalisten Dave Clark en Roberto Schmidt ook een fotograaf uit Miami van Getty Images vermist in omgeving Tobruk. Deze Joe Raedle maakte onderdeel uit van dezelfde expeditie. (AFP)
There are only 151 Pokémon.
Begin een coup en neem het topic over.quote:Op zondag 20 maart 2011 16:57 schreef Nielsch het volgende:
Ik irriteer me trouwens meer aan al die zogenaamde verheven personen ("ik post hier echt al superlang hur") die iedereen met een afwijkende mening een troll noemen dan aan de zogenaamde trollen zelf. Die eerste groep mensen zie ik het forum meer vervuilen dan de tweede.
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Begin een coup en neem het topic over.
Het gaat erom dat de trollen heel erg snel en makkelijk hun slaatje proberen te slaan. Zonder inhoudelijke reacties, enige onderbouwing etc etc komt die met een one-liner bedoeld om een lange, opgefokte reactie uit te lokken. Een mening die dwars tegenin gaat van feiten of wat het gros van de lezers accepteren. Dat is wel een trollende stijl, het gaat niet om het meningsverschil, het gaat om de manier waarop die mening wordt neergezet.quote:
Ik irriteer me trouwens meer aan al die zogenaamde verheven personen ("ik post hier echt al superlang hur") die iedereen met een afwijkende mening een troll noemen dan aan de zogenaamde trollen zelf. Die eerste groep mensen zie ik het forum meer vervuilen dan de tweede.
BBC
1600: Col Franklin Childress, the US military spokesman, says the issue of avoiding civilian casualties is difficult. "We have to choose our targets very wisely, it is a very difficult process but we have to be very careful and judicious - unlike the Libyan regime."
In response to criticism from Amr Moussa of the Arab League, Col Childress says establishing a no-fly zone is "very complicated and there are certain things have to be done". The goal was to prevent attacks against civilians and mass atrocities which Col Gaddafi seems intent on committing, he adds.
1600: Col Franklin Childress, the US military spokesman, says the issue of avoiding civilian casualties is difficult. "We have to choose our targets very wisely, it is a very difficult process but we have to be very careful and judicious - unlike the Libyan regime."
In response to criticism from Amr Moussa of the Arab League, Col Childress says establishing a no-fly zone is "very complicated and there are certain things have to be done". The goal was to prevent attacks against civilians and mass atrocities which Col Gaddafi seems intent on committing, he adds.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
En jij gaat erop in.quote:
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Het gaat erom dat de trollen heel erg snel en makkelijk hun slaatje proberen te slaan. Zonder inhoudelijke reacties, enige onderbouwing etc etc komt die met een one-liner bedoeld om een lange, opgefokte reactie uit te lokken. Een mening die dwars tegenin gaat van feiten of wat het gros van de lezers accepteren. Dat is wel een trollende stijl, het gaat niet om het meningsverschil, het gaat om de manier waarop die mening wordt neergezet.
Ja, en ik heb meer last van de reacties (oh noes, een troll! DO NOT FEED) dan van het initiële bericht zelf.quote:
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Het gaat erom dat de trollen heel erg snel en makkelijk hun slaatje proberen te slaan. Zonder inhoudelijke reacties, enige onderbouwing etc etc komt die met een one-liner bedoeld om een lange, opgefokte reactie uit te lokken. Een mening die dwars tegenin gaat van feiten of wat het gros van de lezers accepteren. Dat is wel een trollende stijl, het gaat niet om het meningsverschil, het gaat om de manier waarop die mening wordt neergezet.
