MO Midden-Oosten
Bespreek hier de actuele situatie omtrent het Midden-Oosten.
Dacht het niet. Dat is alleen bij een aanval op eigen bodem volgens mij.quote:Op zaterdag 19 maart 2011 18:33 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
[..]
Dan moet de NATO ingrijpen.
Please Move The Deer Crossing Sign
Maar geloof me dat zijn compound de hel op aarde wordt als hij zoiets doetquote:
[..]
Dacht het niet. Dat is alleen bij een aanval op eigen bodem volgens mij.
Dankjewel voor jullie uitleg 
Ik zal zo de link eens even grondig doorlezen, eerst klaarmaken.. Moet zo nog weg op deze mooie dag.
Ik zal zo de link eens even grondig doorlezen, eerst klaarmaken.. Moet zo nog weg op deze mooie dag.
Wat gewoon is voor de spin, is chaos voor de vlieg.
Update 18:35 De Canadese premier Harper zegt dat een zeeblokkade snel zal worden ingesteld voor de kust van Libië. (The Guardian)
Update 18:36 Volgens Harper zal een uitgebreide luchtoperatie spoedig aanvangen, inclusief Canadese toestellen. (The Guardian)
7:35pm
Secretary Clinton's remarks following the summit in Paris:
First, let's remember how we got here. As you know, Americans and people around the world, watched with growing concern as Libyan civilians were gunned down by a government that has lost all legitimacy. The people of Libya appealed for help.
"The Arab League and the Gulf Cooperation Council called for action. The international community came together to speak with one voice and deliver a clear and consistent message: Colonel Gaddafi's campaign of violence against his own people must stop.
"The strong votes in the UN Security Council underscored this unity. And now the Gaddafi forces face unambiguous terms. A ceasefire must be implemented immediately. That means all attacks against civilians must stop.
"Troops must stop advancing on Benghazi, and pull back from Ajdabiyah, Misurata and Az Zawiyah. Water, electricity and gas supplies must be turned on to all areas. Humanitarian assistance must be allowed to reach the people of Libya.
"Yesterday President Obama said very clearly that if Gaddafi failed to comply with these terms, there would be consequences. Since the president spoke, there has been some talk from Tripoli of a ceasefire, but the reality on the ground tells a very different story.
"Colonel Gaddafi continues to defy the world.
"His attacks on civilians go on. Today we have been monitoring the troubling reports of fighting around and within Benghazi itself. As president Obama also said, we have every reason to fear that left unchecked, Gaddafi will commit unspeakable atrocities.
"It is against that backdrop that nations from across the region and the world met today here in Paris to discuss the ways we can, working together, implement UN Resolution 1973. We all recognise that further delay will only put more civilians at risk.
"So let me be very clear about the position of the United States. We will support an international coalition as it takes all necessary measures to enforce the terms of resolution 1973. As you may know, French planes are already in the skies above Benghazi.
"Now America has unique capabilities and we will bring them to bear, to help our European and Canadian allies and Arab partners stop further violence against civilians, including through the effective implementation of a no-fly zone.
"As President Obama said, the US will not deploy ground troops, but there should be no mistaking our committment to this effort.
"Today I was able to discuss next steps with the full group, and also conduct smaller, focused conversations with many of my colleagues. I met first with President Sarkozy and Prime Minister Cameron. Both France and the United Kingdom, along with other key partners, have stepped forward to play a leading role in enforcing 1973.
"We reviewed the latest reports from the ground, and discussed how we can work together most effectively in the hours and days ahead, and how we would work very cooperatively with our other partners, including Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Italy, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Turkey as well as others that are not in that long list.
"I also had the opportunity to engage today with my Arab counterparts ...
"We have said from the start that Arab leadership and participation in this effort is crucial, and the Arab League showed that with its pivotal statements on Libya, what really that meant: it changed the diplomatic landscape.
"They have sent another strong message by being here today, and we look to them for continued leadership as well as active participation and leadership going forward.
"With Sheikh Abdullah [bin Zayed of the UAE] and [Qatari] prime minister Hamad bin Jassem, I reiterated our strong and enduring partnership. The United States has an abiding commitment to Gulf security, and a top priority is working together with our partners on our shared concerns about Iranian behaviour in the region.
"We share the view that Iran's activities in the Gulf, including its efforts to advance its agenda in neighbouring continues undermines peace and stability. Our Gulf partners are critical to the international community's efforts on Libya, and we thank them for their leadership."
Secretary Clinton's remarks following the summit in Paris:
First, let's remember how we got here. As you know, Americans and people around the world, watched with growing concern as Libyan civilians were gunned down by a government that has lost all legitimacy. The people of Libya appealed for help.
"The Arab League and the Gulf Cooperation Council called for action. The international community came together to speak with one voice and deliver a clear and consistent message: Colonel Gaddafi's campaign of violence against his own people must stop.
"The strong votes in the UN Security Council underscored this unity. And now the Gaddafi forces face unambiguous terms. A ceasefire must be implemented immediately. That means all attacks against civilians must stop.
"Troops must stop advancing on Benghazi, and pull back from Ajdabiyah, Misurata and Az Zawiyah. Water, electricity and gas supplies must be turned on to all areas. Humanitarian assistance must be allowed to reach the people of Libya.
"Yesterday President Obama said very clearly that if Gaddafi failed to comply with these terms, there would be consequences. Since the president spoke, there has been some talk from Tripoli of a ceasefire, but the reality on the ground tells a very different story.
"Colonel Gaddafi continues to defy the world.
"His attacks on civilians go on. Today we have been monitoring the troubling reports of fighting around and within Benghazi itself. As president Obama also said, we have every reason to fear that left unchecked, Gaddafi will commit unspeakable atrocities.
"It is against that backdrop that nations from across the region and the world met today here in Paris to discuss the ways we can, working together, implement UN Resolution 1973. We all recognise that further delay will only put more civilians at risk.
"So let me be very clear about the position of the United States. We will support an international coalition as it takes all necessary measures to enforce the terms of resolution 1973. As you may know, French planes are already in the skies above Benghazi.
"Now America has unique capabilities and we will bring them to bear, to help our European and Canadian allies and Arab partners stop further violence against civilians, including through the effective implementation of a no-fly zone.
"As President Obama said, the US will not deploy ground troops, but there should be no mistaking our committment to this effort.
"Today I was able to discuss next steps with the full group, and also conduct smaller, focused conversations with many of my colleagues. I met first with President Sarkozy and Prime Minister Cameron. Both France and the United Kingdom, along with other key partners, have stepped forward to play a leading role in enforcing 1973.
"We reviewed the latest reports from the ground, and discussed how we can work together most effectively in the hours and days ahead, and how we would work very cooperatively with our other partners, including Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Italy, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Turkey as well as others that are not in that long list.
"I also had the opportunity to engage today with my Arab counterparts ...
"We have said from the start that Arab leadership and participation in this effort is crucial, and the Arab League showed that with its pivotal statements on Libya, what really that meant: it changed the diplomatic landscape.
"They have sent another strong message by being here today, and we look to them for continued leadership as well as active participation and leadership going forward.
"With Sheikh Abdullah [bin Zayed of the UAE] and [Qatari] prime minister Hamad bin Jassem, I reiterated our strong and enduring partnership. The United States has an abiding commitment to Gulf security, and a top priority is working together with our partners on our shared concerns about Iranian behaviour in the region.
"We share the view that Iran's activities in the Gulf, including its efforts to advance its agenda in neighbouring continues undermines peace and stability. Our Gulf partners are critical to the international community's efforts on Libya, and we thank them for their leadership."
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Daar komen de huurlingen van Ghadaffi onder andere vandaan.quote:
hoe zit het eigenlijk met Tsjaad ??
Ik heb de posts niet gelezen, maar ik neem aan dat jullie weten dat Franse vliegtuigen 4 tanks hebben verwoest.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~François Fénelon
Net op CNN eindelijk iemand die zijn twijfels heeft over het ingrijpen.
Het midden-oosten is nu eenmaal een regio met sterke anti-westerse sentimenten. Als er straks burgerdoden vallen is de kans denk ik groot dat de support die er nu is in de arabische wereld snel weg is.
Het midden-oosten is nu eenmaal een regio met sterke anti-westerse sentimenten. Als er straks burgerdoden vallen is de kans denk ik groot dat de support die er nu is in de arabische wereld snel weg is.
Gerucht :
Everywhereistan
4 tanks destroyed in #Libya by #Fench jets.
Everywhereistan
4 tanks destroyed in #Libya by #Fench jets.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Maar wat wil je: ze krijgen er 2000 dollar voor. Dat verdienen ze nauwelijks in 5 jaar. En zij hebben ook hun gezin te voeden etc. Dus daarom nemen ze die 'baan' wel aan. Ze weten waarschijnlijk niet eens wat er echt speelt daar.quote:Op zaterdag 19 maart 2011 18:38 schreef remlof het volgende:
[..]
Daar komen de huurlingen van Ghadaffi onder andere vandaan.
Het is slecht dat ze het doen. Maar ik snap ze wel.
Zoon van Tolmai.
SkyNewsBreak: UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon says he finds the Libyan response "troubling" #Libya
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
CONFIRMED: Aljazeera- 4 TANKS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED BY FRENCH JETS #libya #feb17
er staat confirmed, dus dan is het waar
er staat confirmed, dus dan is het waar
Have been helt kepsteetsj at a prisson
Voor de OP
Reuters heeft een kaart van Libische bases, vluchtelingen, protesten en olie & gas. Klik op onderstaande link voor meer informatie.
http://www.reuters.com/places/libya
Reuters heeft een kaart van Libische bases, vluchtelingen, protesten en olie & gas. Klik op onderstaande link voor meer informatie.
http://www.reuters.com/places/libya
quote:
CONFIRMED: Aljazeera- 4 TANKS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED BY FRENCH JETS #libya #feb17
er staat confirmed, dus dan is het waar
Zoon van Tolmai.
Tuurlijk niet.quote:
als kadaffi een frans toestal uit de lucht zou schieten.. zouden duitsland, rusland en china dan ook meteen inspringen?
Je hebt helemaal gelijk, maar dat is niet iets wat mensen op dit moment willen horen geloof ik.quote:
Net op CNN eindelijk iemand die zijn twijfels heeft over het ingrijpen.
Het midden-oosten is nu eenmaal een regio met sterke anti-westerse sentimenten. Als er straks burgerdoden vallen is de kans denk ik groot dat de support die er nu is in de arabische wereld snel weg is.
Wut.quote:
CONFIRMED: Aljazeera- 4 TANKS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED BY FRENCH JETS #libya #feb17
er staat confirmed, dus dan is het waar
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Propaganda, verdeel en heers. Ghaddafi slacht mensen af en gebruikt ze als menselijk schild, maar bij de eerste dode door een Franse bom zorgen regimes en dictators er voor dat de bevolking "vrijwillig" gaat demonstreren. Om hun eigen hachje (die dictators) te beschermen.quote:
Net op CNN eindelijk iemand die zijn twijfels heeft over het ingrijpen.
Het midden-oosten is nu eenmaal een regio met sterke anti-westerse sentimenten. Als er straks burgerdoden vallen is de kans denk ik groot dat de support die er nu is in de arabische wereld snel weg is.
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
