Revolutie in Libi� #41 Waar Gaddafi klaar is met praten

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 17:34 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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ja dat is ook als je een donkere africaan bent

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Libyan warplanes bombed the rebel-held port city of Brega on Wednesday as paramilitary groups and other forces loyal to leader Moammar Gadhafi fought for control of a major oil refinery there and a weapons depot in a nearby city.

NPR's Lourdes Garcia-Navarro witnessed the airstrike on Brega that involved several Libyan jets. She said some rebels were fleeing the city, but it was unclear whether either side had gained the upper hand in the fighting.
Map of Libya

"We've seen ... huge plumes of smoke rising into the air over the town of Brega, jets roaring overhead," she said, adding that it appeared Gadhafi was "pulling out all the stops" to regain the east.

Doctors told NPR that at least four people had been killed in the latest fighting in Brega, but that more casualties were expected. Close to a dozen people were wounded

Screaming Warplanes And Heavy Gunfire

The attack on Brega and a similar assault on the city of Ajdabiya were part of a government counter-offensive to recapture the rebel-held eastern half of the country. It coincided with a televised speech by Gadhafi in which he said Libya would conduct a "bloody war" if U.S. or NATO forces intervene in the conflict.

Gadhafi warned that "thousands and thousands" of his people could die as a result.

The fighting in the east was centered on the oil facilities at Brega, which lies at the western edge of the opposition-controlled territory in the east. Witnesses told The Associated Press on Wednesday morning that it had been retaken by a large convoy of pro-Gadhafi forces. But hours later, people on the outskirts of the city said the fighting had resumed.

The sound of screaming warplanes and the crackle of heavy gunfire could be heard as the witnesses spoke by phone.

Ahmed Dawas, an opposition fighter at a checkpoint outside Brega, said a large force of pro-Gadhafi fighters in about 50 SUVs descended on Brega shortly after sunrise and swept over the facility, taking the airstrip as warplanes struck nearby targets. But later, he said, anti-regime fighters from the nearby city of Ajdabiya and from Brega's residents flooded in and took back it back.

Rebel fighters carrying automatic weapons, along with a tank, sped out of Ajdabiya in pickup trucks toward the oil port 40 miles away to join the fight.

At the same time, Ajdabiya's people geared up to defend their city from attacks by the regime. Garcia-Navarro said there were several bombing attempts on Ajdabiya, the site of a key weapons depot.

"The weapons depot there is vast. It has about 35 warehouses filled with all sorts of munitions, including surface-to-air missiles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and other arms. And so it is a very strategically important place for the rebel army and clearly also for pro-Gadhafi forces," she said.

At the gates of the city, hundreds of residents took up positions on the road from Brega, armed with Kalashnikovs and hunting rifles, along with a few rocket-propelled grenade launchers. They set up two large rocket launchers and an anti-aircraft gun in the road.

One rebel military leader, Capt. Faris Zawya, told NPR that forces in Adjadabia are "still holding the line."

Scores of armed young men also streamed out of Benghazi, which is seen as the capital of "free Libya," to reinforce pro-democracy forces in Brega and Ajdabiya, Garcia-Navarro said.

"They say they are willing to die to maintain their hold of eastern Libya," she said. "And not only their hold of eastern Libya they say that once they have defended this place, they will push out and try and overthrow Moammar Gadhafi once and for all."

'Terrorist Elements Are Wreaking Havoc'

From his stronghold in the capital, Tripoli, Gadhafi reiterated accusations that al-Qaida operatives backed by lies propagated by international media were responsible for the chaos.

"The terrorist elements are wreaking havoc, killing men, raping women and taking refuge within mosques," he said in the speech translated by Al-Jazeera English. "If one person is killed, it can be reported [by the media] as 1,000."

Gadhafi also claimed that high-ranking army officers who defected to the opposition had in fact been "forced at gunpoint" to switch sides. He repeatedly said the forces allied against him were armed and that reports of peaceful demonstrations were "a complete lie."

"These groups are in possession of arms and falsely reported to the outside world through their own cell phones that they are marching peacefully," he said. "On the ground, you can see that's not true."

When Gadhafi repeated the refrain that he will "fight to the last drop of blood," some in the audience in Tripoli stood up to chant and wave the green flag that has been the symbol of Libya since the 1969 coup that removed the monarchy.

But in Benghazi, the first city to fall to the opposition, Al-Jazeera broadcast footage of people holding hand-lettered signs in English reading "Gadhafi is lying now" and "The liar is talking." Protesters waved the red, black and green pre-Gadhafi tricolor and flashed "V for victory" signs.

Some opposition members told the AP that they believe Gadhafi was pulling up reinforcements from bases deep in the deserts of southwestern Libya, flying them to the fronts on the coast.

People in the eastern city of Tobruk, near the border with Egypt, told NPR that they were expecting the regime's counteroffensive given Gadhafi's commitment to cling to power. They said they are ready to join the fight but are equally adamant that they will not accept the presence of foreign troops in their country.

'No-Fly' Contingencies Reportedly Under Discussion

But members of the opposition in Tobruk said they want the international community to impose a no-fly zone over Libya something that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said is under active consideration.
The amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge traveled through the Suez Canal in Ismailia, Egypt, on Wednesday on its way to the Mediterranean.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates downplayed the prospect of U.S. military intervention in Libya during a Pentagon news conference Tuesday. He did not, however, rule out options such as providing air cover for Libyan rebels.

"We also have to think about, frankly, the use of the U.S. military in another country in the Middle East," he said, referring to the long war in Iraq and its backlash in the Arab world. "So I think we're sensitive about all of these things, but we will provide the president with a full range of options."

Gates said he has ordered two Navy amphibious warships into the Mediterranean Sea, along with an extra 400 Marines, in case they are needed to evacuate civilians or provide humanitarian relief.

NATO has said establishing a no-fly zone over Libya would require a clear mandate from the U.N. Security Council. This is unlikely because Russia, which has veto power in the council, has already rejected the idea.

Still, some diplomats told the AP on Wednesday that NATO countries are drawing up contingency plans modeled on the no-fly zones over the Balkans in the 1990s in case the international community decides to impose an air embargo over the North African nation.

The diplomats, who asked that they not be named because of the sensitivity of the issue, cited NATO's aerial offensive against Yugoslavia in 1999 which did not have the U.N. Security Council mandate in response to the crackdown on ethnic Albanian nationalists in Kosovo. The onslaught ended after 78 days with Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic agreeing to withdraw his forces from Kosovo.

"Very clearly there are such discussions going on, and contingency plans are being worked on, but there is no decision yet," said a senior EU official who also declined to be identified.

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 17:46 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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Wat een mooie foto

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 17:45 schreef yavanna het volgende:
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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 17:49 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
rusland spreekt tegen dat er luchtaanvallen zijn geweest, bron gast op presstv

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 17:53 schreef Muridae het volgende:

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Nu zijn het helden, en straks foute "insurgents" volgens de VS.
Grappig hoe dat kan omdraaien.

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 17:53 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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'k Heb 'm in de op gezet

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:00 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Waar is -jos- trouwens?

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 17:53 schreef yavanna het volgende:

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:04 schreef Dekatria het volgende:

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Je hebt je UI ook meteen maar ff upgedate

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:13 schreef sig000 het volgende:

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Ik denk dat ze weinig kans maken tegen de troepen die Gadaffi nog heeft.

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:15 schreef bokaal het volgende:
Is er enig beeldmateriaal van Ajdabiya? Foto/Video/Iets anders dan alleen maar tekst?
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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:18 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Die troepen hebben helemaal geen zin. Ze durven alleen niet over te lopen.

Hoe kan je nou de hele tijd bommen naast een olie installatie en naast een enorm wapendepot gooien?

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:18 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Die troepen hebben helemaal geen zin. Ze durven alleen niet over te lopen.

Hoe kan je nou de hele tijd bommen naast een olie installatie en naast een enorm wapendepot gooien?

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:25 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Ben even eten, houdoe

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:26 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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Van't zelfde allemaal

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:22 schreef Pannenkoekenmix het volgende:

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Simpel. Laat een vrouw de kaart vasthouden en zeggen waar te gooien

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:27 schreef houda het volgende:
Ik heb die man/jongen/twitteraar gemaild. Hoop dat ik snel een mail terug krijg!
Iedereen hier is in beweging. Ik hou jullie op de hoogte. Hoop dat het met een sisser afloopt!

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:28 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Smakelijk!

ik heb ook bijna hap-hap op schoot.

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:29 schreef Lagrinta het volgende:

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Met het bord op schoot oorlogs kiekn.

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:32 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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P-cies.

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:35 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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ramptoerist

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Op woensdag 2 maart 2011 18:31 schreef aerdt het volgende:
Zolang de luchtmacht loyaal blijft aan Khadaffi is het onmogelijk het regime omver te werpen.
In Tripoli zijn er genoeg troepen om hem te beschermen en een opstand in de stad de kop in te drukken.
Tegelijkertijd is het voor de anti's onmogelijk richting Tripoli te trekken, aangezien in de woestijn een colonne voertuigen vanuit de lucht makkelijk te spotten en uit te schakelen is.

Tenzij er iets drastisch veranderd de komende dagen, ben ik bang dat er niets anders opzit voor de anti's dan zich in te graven en hopen dat ze de aanvallen af kunnen slaan. Of naruurlijk dat er dmv een inside job een einde wordt gemaakt aan het regime.

@papierversnipperaar: Is het bevestigd dat de wapendepots niet vernietigd zijn? En zo ja, zijn ze inmiddels leeggehaald door de anti's? Dat lijkt me namelijk dan wel even prioriteit, want op een dag komt een piloot die het wel bombardeerd.

Het naast een olie installatie gooien kan ik dan wel weer begrijpen. Waarom immers je eigen infrastructuur vernietigen dat ze nog hard nodig zullen hebben.
Het kan een manier zijn om de anti's weg te jagen. Geloof me, niets is zo eng als het geluid en de trillingen die een bombardement met zich mee breng. Je zou voor minder op de vlucht gaan!

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Het naast een olie installatie gooien kan ik dan wel weer begrijpen. Waarom immers je eigen infrastructuur vernietigen dat ze nog hard nodig zullen hebben.
Het kan een manier zijn om de anti's weg te jagen. Geloof me, niets is zo eng als het geluid en de trillingen die een bombardement met zich mee breng. Je zou voor minder op de vlucht gaan!