Revolutie in Libië #30: Qaddafi nog aan de macht

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 12:43 schreef psv01 het volgende:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=182797168428092
Ander filmpje.

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 12:48 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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wat staat er naast?(is arabisch)

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 12:49 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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Of nu.nl neemt de geruchtenmachine op twitter over die ook constant praten over dingen die gaan gebeuren...

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 12:50 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:

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Youth arrested young age in a brutal and bizarre Vhlom?

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 12:38 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

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huh iedereen kan de chat gewoon volgen ?? wat bedoel je???
(of zit jij op andere chat ? zie nu dat er bij jou tijd bijstaat ?)

geef mij anders maar een link als je wil ...

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 12:51 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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vervolg:

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Anonymoosh: sak do we have any news from tajura this morning?
Skillethead: maya ----- that tweet from SultanAQ is good knews
Anonymoosh: shak*
Tokyo1: EME/ stay with us
Shakirashak: No, last I heard was 8 hours ago. reports that its very quiet, no gunshots

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:01 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Zag iemand het journaal? Alleen gisteren alleen al 1000 doden?

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 12:53 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Hier is wat achtergrond informatie.

Anonops #6: Anonymous en de MO-revoluties

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 12:46 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:
http://www.sandraoffthestrip.com/2011/02/22/nearly-impossible-to-wade-through-maze-of-libyan-tribes/

De Qadhafah (zijn stam) is klein en onbelangrijk voordat hij de coup pleegde in 1969.

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:03 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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Als je daarvan een onafhankelijke bron hebt hoor ik het graag. Tot dan toe lijkt dit me een gerucht.

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:05 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

VÚDEO en Trípoli | 25 de Febrero

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:14 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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ik zie het. maar het is wel de plek waar de online activisten praten.

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:05 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

VÚDEO en Trípoli | 25 de Febrero

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:17 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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ok. er is nu bijvoorbeeld iemand die beweerd 100% confirmed dat de Libische ambassadeur in Malta niet is afgetreden. dat lijkt me wel nieuwswaardig (als beweerd is dat dat wel zo is dan, kan ik me niet herinneren)

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in Malta - is there somebody you can reach from the hospital? Mater dei or St Lukes
1:10 PM cawsloo: you want info form Materi Dei ?
1:10 PM oldmomma: yah allah moe
1:10 PM cawsloo: listen I can pass you to journalists if you want
1:11 PM fromparis: YES - just a moment
1:12 PM cawsloo: fromparis
1:12 PM cawsloo: give me your email
1:12 PM Anonymoosh: FP can you also give caws the links from scribd
1:12 PM cawsloo: give me your contact details
1:12 PM cawsloo: Skype/MSN etc etc
1:12 PM cawsloo: who is from Libya here ?
1:12 PM fromparis: skype stephwcm
1:12 PM fromLuxembourg: fromparis: do you know if enad when they will play interview videos
1:13 PM fromparis: not yet
1:14 PM Anonymoosh: fr mo meeds to know if we got hold of a doctor i think next door
1:15 PM oldmomma: i think we had a few yesterday contacted
1:15 PM cawsloo: who is from Libya here ?
1:16 PM oldmomma: my husband me at heart
1:16 PM AFarmer: At heart as well!!
1:18 PM oldmomma: is steph in here??

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:20 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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Dat beweerde cawsloo in de main chat, daarom plaatsten ze een link naar de 'next room' om zn contact details te vragen

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fergbell: Hi, I work for the Associated Press (AP) - we are looking for any video filmed by people in Tripoli today. If you have video or know someone who has video please let me know.

fromparis: @fergbell - please see with fromLux
AlGhazali: fergbell: http://twitter.com/ShababLibya

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:24 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Ik weet niet of een analyse van de chats/chans/irc hier interessant is voor iedereen. Kan misschien in een apart topic? En dan liever niet in "mijn" anon-topic.

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:19 schreef remlof het volgende:
AlArabiya_Eng Al Arabiya English
News not confirmed yet says that Gaddafi's wife Ayesh and daughter left to Vienna #alarabiya #Libya @libia @libyan #feb17 #Feb17 #gaddafi
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Oostenrijk dus, dat vorige week nog een vliegtuig vol met wapens naar Libië stuurde,

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:26 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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Ik zeg niet dat hij van de CIA is, ik zeg alleen dat hij samen met andere twitteraars samenwerkt om zo veel mogelijk geruchten te verspreiden. Het is gewoon een zeer onbetrouwbaar acocunt. Waarschijnlijk zitten de mensen hierachter ook helemaal niet in Libie.

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Op vrijdag 25 februari 2011 20:51 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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De twitteraccounts @ShababLibya en @LibyaFeb17_com zijn van de CIA, dat weet toch iedereen?

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As Gaddafi Teeters, Will the Mystery of Lebanon's Missing Imam Be Solved?

Nicholas Blanford / Beirut

The cracks running through the crumbling regime of Muammar Gaddafi have shed some fresh light on the fate of Musa Sadr, a popular and influential Lebanese Shi'ite cleric who mysteriously vanished while on a trip to Libya 33 years ago. Abdel-Monem al-Houni, a former colonel in the Libyan army who participated in the 1969 coup that brought Muammar Gaddafi to power, has broken a three-decade silence to declare that Sadr was shot and killed on the orders of the Libyan leader. At the same time, however, other reports emanating from the turmoil of Libya suggest that the cleric may actually still be alive, languishing out of sight in a prison for more than three decades.

Sadr, known to his followers by the honorific "Imam Musa", was a tall charismatic Iranian-born cleric who moved to Lebanon in the late 1950s and helped mobilize Lebanon's traditionally marginalized and downtrodden Shi'ite community. At the time, most Lebanese Shi'ites were beholden to a handful of powerful feudalistic landowners and poorly represented in Lebanon's sectarian power-sharing system. Sadr, however, quickly set about establishing vocational centers, orphanages, Islamic institutes and lobbying the government for a more equitable distribution of the state's resources. "It was Imam Sadr that woke up the sleeping giant that is the Shi'ites of Lebanon," says Aql Hamiyah, the military commander in the 1980s of the Amal Movement, founded by Sadr.

With his Persian-accented Arabic, striking physical appearance and unflagging energy, Sadr earned respect across the sectarian divide. He even took to preaching in Christian churches to the initial outrage of the more conservative members of the Shi'ite clergy. Abdullah Yazbek, an advisor to Sadr, recalls accompanying Sadr to a Christian village in south Lebanon where the cleric was due to speak. When the Christian congregation spotted him in the church, they began chanting "Allah u-Akhbar," God is Greatest, traditionally a Muslim invocation. Says Yazbek, "The way people treated him, it was as if he was Jesus Christ."

In the 1970s, Sadr found himself increasingly at odds with the Palestinian factions that had taken over south Lebanon from where they launched attacks into Israel. The residents of south Lebanon, including Sadr's Shi'ite constituents, inevitably bore the brunt of Israel's retaliation. Then, in August 1978, Sadr travelled to Libya with two companions, apparently hoping to persuade Gaddafi to use his influence to curb the Palestinians in Lebanon. (The relationship between the two men had never been good: According to Fouad Ajami's The Vanished Imam, the Libyan strongman brought a 1975 meeting with Sadr to an end by pretending to fall asleep.) The Imam was last seen in public on Aug. 31, 1978, shortly before his scheduled meeting with Gaddafi. Days later, in response to requests for information on his whereabouts from Sadr's anxious followers, the Libyan authorities claimed that the Lebanese cleric and his two colleagues had caught a flight to Rome. But Italian authorities said the three men were never on board the plane.

Ajami's book cites U.S. diplomatic cables indicating that Sadr may have been killed when a heated discussion between him and Libyan officials inadvertently came to blows, the cleric receiving a fatal one. But the Libyans never confirmed anything and Gaddafi would remain perpetually enigmatic about it even after a delegation of 200,000 Lebanese Shi'ites traveled to Syria to plead with him for information about their beloved leader. Reminded of the Arab tradition of hospitality and that Sadr had been his guest in Tripoli, Gaddafi reportedly said, "I am told that Musa Sadr is an Iranian, is he not?" indicating that the Arab custom did not extend to foreigners.

For many Lebanese Shi'ites, Sadr's mysterious exit evoked comparisons with the "hidden imam," a messianic spiritual leader who vanished in the ninth century and whose return, the majority of Shi'ites believe, will herald the end of the world and their salvation. Even today, Sadr remains a revered figure to Hizballah, the powerful Shi'ite militia, and other Lebanese Shi'ites.

Sadr's disappearance caused a rift between Lebanon and the Gaddafi regime that has never healed. Hamiyah, the Amal commander, staged an incredible six hijackings of Middle Eastern airliners in the years that followed in a vain attempt to pressure Libya into revealing the truth about Sadr. In an interview several months ago, the burly, thickly-bearded former militia commander wept openly when discussing his mentor's fate. "This brings great sadness to my heart," he said. "I am willing to sacrifice my sons and whole family to hear what happened to him.

Motives for Sadr's alleged assassination are plentiful. Some believe Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian leader, colluded with Gaddafi to remove a persistent critic of the Palestinians in south Lebanon. Others suggest that Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the leader of the Islamic revolution against the Shah of Iran, regarded Sadr as a potential rival and asked Gaddafi to have him eliminated.

Now, as Gaddafi's hold on power looks increasingly frail, might the fate of Musa Sadr actually be confirmed? In an interview with the pan Arab Al-Hayat daily on Wednesday, Houni, who was Libya's representative to the Arab League before joining the uprising, said that Sadr's body was flown in Gaddafi's personal jet to Sabha, 400 miles south of Tripoli, and buried there. Najieddine Yazigi, the pilot and Houni's brother in law, subsequently was murdered to help preserve the secret. "I knew deep in my heart that he was dead, although I never wanted to believe it," said Hamiyah on being told the news. "I blame Gaddafi and he must be held accountable for this crime."

But the Saudi-owned Ash Sharq al-Awsat newspaper offered a ray of hope, quoting a Libyan dissident, Issa Abdul Majid Mansour, as saying that Sadr was alive in a prison in Sabha. If he is still alive he would be 82 years old today.

If Gaddafi's regime follows those of Tunisia and Egypt in the coming days, one can only wonder what other hidden secrets of the ruthless, flamboyant and eccentric Libyan leader's 42 years in power may yet be revealed.

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:33 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:
http://www.pearltrees.com(...)2570207&N-p=18672142
wel interesaante link over hoe de "nieuwsinfornatie stroom "verloopt ( wie aan wie gelikt is , wie contact heeft met wie )

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Op zaterdag 26 februari 2011 13:37 schreef -jos- het volgende:

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vreemd, die gast stond op mijn zwarte lijst als mogelijk onbetrouwbaar.... (met een vraagteken)