Revolutie in Egypte #181: Het feest gaat door

Even the side walks are freshly repainted #Tahrir

Eisen v.d protesters

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The people will continue their peaceful revolution, even after they managed to bring down President Hosni Mubarak's regime, until they achieve their democratic aspirations, said the "People of the 25 January Revolution" in a statement on Friday.

The statement was read by Mohamed Fouad, vice president of the State Council, on Al Jazeera television network. He said, "The people of Egypt--who have restored sovereignty over their land, wealth, and destiny through the sacrifices of its martyrs, announce the continuation of the peaceful revolution until final victory is achieved and all demands are met.

The demands, the statement said, constitute the immediate abolition of Emergency Law, the release of all political detainees, the abolition of the current Constitution and the dissolution of the People's Assembly, Shura Council and local councils.

The statement called for the establishment of a transitional presidential council composed of five members consisting of one member from the military and four trusted civilians. None would be permitted to participate in the upcoming presidential election.

The statement also called for the formation of an interim government that included competent figures, with no partisan affiliations, to manage the country and pave the road for free elections at the end of a transitional period, the length of which would not exceed nine months. The members of the transition government would also be barred from running in upcoming presidential and parliamentary elections.

The statement urged the formation of a committee to construct a new constitution that takes into account the worlds oldest standing constitutions and human rights charters. The proposed constitution should be put to a popular referendum three months after the committees formation.

The revolutionaries called for allowing the free formation of political parties on a civil, democratic and peaceful basis. It also called for free media, the free exchange information, and the free formation of syndicates and non-governmental organizations.

The statement called for the abolition of military tribunals, and demanded that their prior rulings against civilians should be thrown out.

The statement called on Egypt's Armed Forces to endorse the demands.

Former President Hosni Mubarak had announced his resignation on Friday in a statement delivered by Vice President Omar Suleiman.

Translated from the Arabic Edition.

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Revolution not over, say protesters

statement released by the 25 January revolutionaries lays out key demands as Egypt senses possibility
Ahram Online, Saturday 12 Feb 2011

A statement dubbed the 25 January revolution Communique #1, released yesterday, announced that Egypts revolution has not ended and will not do so until all demands are met.

While stating that the Egyptian people now have full control over their land, fate and future, it adds that the revolution will continue until all the protesters demands are met. The demands listed include lifting the emergency law, releasing all political prisoners, a new constitution and the dissolving of parliament.

The statement also asked for the establishment of a transitional presidential council of five members, one from the military and the rest civilian. None of these figures, the statement adds, will be allowed to run for the countrys first presidential elections this September.

They also asked for the formation of a transitional government that will help run the country and pave the way for free and fair elections, but again none of its members will be allowed to run in the presidential or parliamentary elections.

An assembly should also be set up to draft a new constitution for the country, encompassing democratic values and human rights. This constitution will then be put to the public in a referendum to ratify it three months after the assembly is formed.

The statement also calls for the freedom to form political parties without restriction. Freedom of expression and the right to form civil society groups are stipulated conditions that need to be met.

The statement also asked for the abolition of all military courts and the abolition of all sentences handed down to civilians by these courts.

The group conclude their statement by asking the Egyptian army to fully support the demands of the protesters and to stay on side of the people.

Good morning Revolution, A To Do List

Okay, ik ben er weer. Vandaag weggeweest dus heb het nauwelijks, af en toe op twitter gekeken, kunnen volgen. Kan iemand mij vertellen wat ik heb gemist?

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 18:16 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:
Okay, ik ben er weer. Vandaag weggeweest dus heb het nauwelijks, af en toe op twitter gekeken, kunnen volgen. Kan iemand mij vertellen wat ik heb gemist?

Alleen de verklaring v.h leger en eisen v.d protesters, er staan een aantal samenvattingen niet ver terug in dit topic.

Ahmed Ezz vroeger op Drums eind jaren 80




De oude partijleider van NDP

We werden genoemd mensen

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 18:50 schreef DeZoektocht het volgende:
We werden genoemd mensen

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 18:50 schreef DeZoektocht het volgende:
We werden genoemd mensen

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 18:56 schreef mazaru het volgende:

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wat is er?

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 18:10 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Good morning Revolution, A To Do List

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[quote]Before trying to take all of it, or even just bits of it, in, and keeping, for the moment, a tight control over the need to express the sheer joy of it all, I believe we should urgently debate the most immediate tasks ahead. Here are some suggestions:

1. Dont fight ghosts: The army is not about to seize political power, nor is there a threat of military rule. I understand the concern, but do not sympathize with the phobia. We should stop letting the ghosts of our past interfere with how we conceive of our present, and determine our future. Popular revolutions, I have written more than once over the past couple of weeks, do not result in military rule, coup détats and counter-revolutions do. So lets by all means not waste precious energy on fighting windmills. Its civil, not military government that lies ahead; the point is to ensure that it will be one that is situated within a fully democratic political system.

2. End state of emergency: By the time this is posted, the state of emergency might have been lifted already. In any case, this is a top demand of the revolution, as well as a pledge of the military. There is absolutely no excuse for keeping the state of emergency a single minute longer. Until the current circumstances are over, does not hold water. Egypts revolution will go down in history as the most peaceful, non-violent and self-disciplined revolution the world has ever known. The violence is now clearly exposed as the product of the defunct regime. The state of emergency must be lifted TODAY.

3. Release political prisoners: The immediate release of all political prisoners, including all prisoners held without detention or trial under the provisions of the infamous emergency law. The argument that this will involve the release of possibly hundreds of militant Islamists, some of whom may have been involved in terrorist acts is groundless. We have every right to expect the Egyptian revolution to give an example to the world, including to Obamas America itself. If theyre not held in strict accordance with due process, they should be released. A genuine democracy knows no exceptional circumstances, and a genuinely democratic society is able to deal with the consequences.

4. Prosecute police and NDP crimes and overhaul domestic security apparatus: Over the past two weeks we have seen what the internal security apparatus - allied to NDP top officials and oligarchs, and jointly running a huge network of criminal gangs is capable of. Over the past 30 years, under the protection of a continuing state of emergency and the pretext of fighting terrorism, the domestic security apparatus has been brutalized and corrupted to such an extent, it is effectively a giant lawless militia, handing out torture, murder at will. We must not forget that the revolution was, in large part, triggered by the behavior of this apparatus, and has from the very start identified it as among its top targets, next only to the removal of the man who was responsible for its creation and operation. Moreover, during the past two weeks, this apparatus went rogue. We need not go back over the evidence, it is widely known, and Ive expounded on it in previous articles, suffice it to say that the blood of over 300 martyrs continues to cry out for retribution. Nor is a democracy of any kind even remotely possible in the presence of such a security apparatus. The so-called fact finding committee formed by former vice president Omar Suleiman to investigate the matter is a patently ridiculous attempt at a cover up. All those responsible for the scorched earth strategy of murder and mayhem (whether in the police apparatus or among NDP officials and oligarchs), launched by the defunct regime over the past week must be arrested immediately, and a thorough investigation and prosecution process initiated, by civil prosecution authorities, under army protection and guarantees. The whole domestic security apparatus should be put under combined military/civilian oversight (including representatives of the human rights movement) in order to begin a full overhaul.

5. A provisional government: A provisional, national unity government of technocrats and widely respected public and political figures will need to be established as soon as possible to take charge of running the country, and laying the groundwork for the transition to a full democracy. There is a near consensus on what this government should look like, and even on several of the names that should be included in it. This process, however, needs to be closely monitored, and intervened in, by the various bodies set up by the revolution, particularly the youth movements. Radical changes of government open up a great many appetites, and as wondrous as our revolution has been, it has not transformed us into a nation of angels. We must expect a lot of grabbing and grappling on all levels of the state in the coming weeks and months, and we need to both take it in our stride, as well as try to create as many guarantees as possible that the process will be as clean, transparent and accountable as possible. Needless to say, the provisional government should be all-inclusive, a rainbow coalition not only of the various ideological and political trends in the pro-democracy movement, but also of the nations various sectors, most notably women and Copts.

6. A provisional constitution and bill of rights: One of the most urgent tasks of the revolution will be to enact a provisional constitution, and I suggest as well, a bill of rights. Needless to say the measures adopted by the defunct regime to amend the constitution have been rendered null and void. The army, respected legal, political and public figures and representatives of the revolution need to agree on a provisional constituent assembly, fairly small in number as to be effective, and large enough to be all-inclusive, that will enact what should be a concise provisional constitution, and I might add a bill of rights setting down the democratic and human rights principles that have been at the very core of the Egyptian revolution.

7. Clean up legislation: At the same time, the Herculean process of cleaning up the Augean Stables of authoritarianism needs to be started as soon as possible. Again bodies set up in accordance with the criteria mentioned above should begin operating as soon as possible to oversee such things as the clearing up of the legal code of the massive array of authoritarian, anti-democratic legislation, and drawing up new provisional legislation that would reflect the aims of the revolution, and those set out in the provisional constitution and bill of rights. This will include, to name the most notable examples, new electoral legislation, new legislation governing local government on all levels, clearing the penal code of anti-democratic legislation (some of which goes back to British colonial rule) and providing for the free exercise of political rights and freedom of expression, including the right to organize politically, the right to establish trade unions and NGOs, etc.

8. A National Salvation Front: There have been a great many ideas and initiatives aimed at setting up representative bodies and organizational structures for the revolution. It is my conviction that the coming months will witness a tremendous political revival that will change and transform the whole political map of the country in ways we cannot even begin to predict now. As I wrote before, extant political forces will be transformed, new ones will come on the stage, and not a few will simply fall into oblivion. N

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 18:58 schreef DeZoektocht het volgende:

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wat is er?

Ik vroeg me af waarom ze Nederland zouden noemen. We zijn zo'n klein landje. Als ze nou Duitsland of Frankrijk bij Engeland en Amerika hadden genoemd, dan was dat logischer geweest.
Dit komt over alsof ze vragen of Gibraltar het in de krant zou willen zetten.

We worden blijkbaar nog steeds als voorbeeld gezien. Jammer dat onze staat van zaken lang niet zo goed is als het voorstel dat ze zelf doen in communique 1.

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 19:12 schreef mazaru het volgende:

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Ik vroeg me af waarom ze Nederland zouden noemen. We zijn zo'n klein landje. Als ze nou Duitsland of Frankrijk bij Engeland en Amerika hadden genoemd, dan was dat logischer geweest.
Dit komt over alsof ze vragen of Gibraltar het in de krant zou willen zetten.

Ja wel apart idd, maar misschien had deze man gewoon internet contacten met NL ofzo.
Buiten dat zijn nederlanders online altijd erg aanwezig heb ik het idee

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 19:16 schreef truepositive het volgende:
We worden blijkbaar nog steeds als voorbeeld gezien. Jammer dat onze staat van zaken lang niet zo goed is als het voorstel dat ze zelf doen in communique 1.

JIj bent het niet eens met de regering, maar je kunt hier zo je eigen partij oprichten.
We hebben gewoon vrijheid en welvaart.
Ik snap niet hoe je zo negatief kunt zijn over NL.
Dat er een hoop dingen beter kunnen ben ik met je eens, maar wij hebben de vrijheid om die dingen aan te passen als we dat willen.
Dat had het egyptische volk niet.

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 19:12 schreef mazaru het volgende:

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Ik vroeg me af waarom ze Nederland zouden noemen. We zijn zo'n klein landje. Als ze nou Duitsland of Frankrijk bij Engeland en Amerika hadden genoemd, dan was dat logischer geweest.
Dit komt over alsof ze vragen of Gibraltar het in de krant zou willen zetten.

Nederland is 1 van de actiefste landen op het web
Plus we spreken en typen goed Engels en we zijn geen Amerikanen (heel belangrijk).

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Op zaterdag 12 februari 2011 19:12 schreef mazaru het volgende:

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Ik vroeg me af waarom ze Nederland zouden noemen. We zijn zo'n klein landje. Als ze nou Duitsland of Frankrijk bij Engeland en Amerika hadden genoemd, dan was dat logischer geweest.
Dit komt over alsof ze vragen of Gibraltar het in de krant zou willen zetten.

NL staat toch wel bekend als model-democratie.