WGR Werk, Geldzaken, Recht en de Beurs
Hier kun je alles kwijt over sollicitaties, werksituaties, belastingen, (handelen op) de beurs, hypotheken, beleggingen en salarissen, arbeidscontracten of geschillen met je (huis)baas. Alles over werk, geldzaken en recht dus.
Kijk maar uit, straks komt Teelbal/Zaadbal/Zaadspons/Zeepslet om de hoek zetten met zijn cognitieve dissonantie-copy-paste crap.quote:
1. Alan Reynolds, Cato Institute:
“No Housing Bubble Trouble,”Washington Times (January 8, 2005): “In short, we are asked to worry about something that has never happened for reasons still to be coherently explained. ‘Housing bubble’ worrywarts have long been hopelessly confused. It would have been financially foolhardy to listen to them in 2002. It still is.”
“Recession Fairy Tales,” Townhall (October 5, 2006): “When it comes to homes . . . many people have spent the last four years fretting that the ‘housing bubble’ might end. That is, they worried that overpriced homes might become more affordable. This is not quite as nonsensical as worrying the price of oil might fall too much, but it’s close.”
2. Kevin Hassett, American Enterprise Institute:
New York Times (July 25, 2004): “Another bubble-skeptic is Kevin Hassett, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute and co-author of the fabled ‘Dow 36,000,’ which was published in 1999 when the Dow Jones index was around 11,000. Mr. Hassett says there is an ideological component to the belief in bubbles. Liberals, who tend to believe that government must step in to protect people from market imperfections, will likely see more of them. Conservatives, who like their markets unfettered, will see less.
…
“Mr. Hassett of the conservative American Enterprise Institute thinks housing prices will be pretty much O.K. He acknowledges there might be some bubble dynamics at play in some regions. But he argues that for the most part people are paying more for homes because their incomes are higher and interest rates are lower, reducing the cost to own a home.
“Mr. Hassett expects that rising interest rates would raise this cost and home prices would then decline proportionately. But he sees no reason to expect a catastrophic decline. ‘I don’t think a catastrophe is very likely,’ he says.
3. James K. Glassman, American Enterprise Institute:
“Housing Bubble?,” Capitalism Magazine (May 24, 2005): “[W]hile such signs of speculation are troubling, there is little solid evidence that a real estate bubble is puffing up.
…
“Even in places where prices are soaring, worries of a bubble could be overblown because higher prices appear grounded in good old fundamentals.”
4. Jude Wanniski, journalist/hack:
“There is No Housing Bubble!!,” The Conservative Voice (August 13, 2005).
5. Jerry Bowyer, author of The Bush Boom:
“Hate to Burst Your (Housing) Bubble: But there isn’t one,” National Review (July 5, 2006).
6. Nicolas P. Restinas, director, Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies:
“More Than a Bubble Keeps Housing Prices Sky-High,” LA Times (May 20, 2004).
7. Jim Cramer, host of CNBC’s “Mad Money”:
“House Beautiful,” New York Magazine (December 8, 2003): “Housing bubble? What housing bubble? The signs are in place for a further run-up in real estate. Breathe easy, mortgage holders. There’s still no place like home.”
8. Neil Barsky, Alson Capital Partners, LLC:
“What Housing Bubble?,” Wall Street Journal (July 28, 2005): “There is no housing bubble in this country. Our strong housing market is a function of myriad factors with real economic underpinnings: low interest rates, local job growth, the emotional attachment one has for one’s home, one’s view of one’s future earning- power, and parental contributions, all have done their part to contribute to rising home prices.
…
“What we do have is a serious housing shortage and housing affordability crisis.”
9. Chris Mayer, professor of real estate, Columbia Business School, and Todd Sinai, professor of real estate, Wharton:
“Bubble Trouble? Not Likely,” Wall Street Journal (September 19, 2005): “For the past several years, Chicken Littles have squawked that the sky — or the ceiling — is about to fall on the housing market. And it’s tempting to believe them.
…
“Yet basic economic logic suggests that this apparent evidence of a bubble is anything but. Even in the highest-price cities, housing is, at most, slightly more expensive than average.”
10. Jonathan McCarthy, senior economist, New York Fed, and Richard W. Peach, vice president, New York Fed:
“Are Home Prices the Next Bubble?,” FRBNY Economic Policy Review (December 2004): “Home prices have been rising strongly since the mid-1990s, prompting concerns that a bubble exists in this asset class and that home prices are vulnerable to a collapse that could harm the U.S. economy.
…
“A close analysis of the U.S. housing market in recent years, however, finds little basis for such concerns. The marked upturn in home prices is largely attributable to strong market fundamentals: Home prices have essentially moved in line with increases in family income and declines in nominal mortgage interest rates.”
11. David Malpass, chief economist, Bear Stearns:
“So This is a Weak Economy?,” Wall Street Journal (June 28, 2005): “[T]he litany against the U.S. economy is so ingrained and familiar that few disputed this spring’s ‘slowdown.’ When strong data on income, employment, consumption and profits showed 3.5% first-quarter GDP growth and a continuation into the second quarter, the headlines shifted to other attacks — adjustable-rate mortgages, a housing ‘bubble,’ the distribution of income — rather than revising the slowdown story.”
12. Steve Forbes, CEO, Forbes, Inc.:
Global Leaders Speakers Series (November 10, 2005):”[Forbes] maintained that there was no ‘housing bubble’ in the U.S. but there was an “oil bubble” driven by speculators.”
13. Brian S. Wesbury, chief investment strategist, Claymore Advisors:
“Mr. Greenspan’s Cappuccino,” Wall Street Journal (May 31, 2005): “These nattering nabobs expect a housing collapse to take down the U.S. economy. But excessive pessimism is unwarranted: Fears of a housing bubble are overblown.”
14. Noel Sheppard, economist, Business & Media Institute:
“Media Myths: The Housing Bubble is Bursting,”Business & Media Institute (Nov. 30, 2005): “The increase in real estate values the past five years has not resembled the rapid rise typically seen in a bubble.”
15. Carl Steidtmann, chief economist, Deloitte Research:
“The Housing Bubble Myth,” Economist’s Corner (July 2005): “When you strip away all of the white noise around a housing bubble, what you find is a robust market for housing that is undergoing several profound changes all of which manifest themselves in higher home price indexes, none of which adds up to a housing price bubble.”
16. John K. McIlwain, senior resident fellow for housing, Urban Land Institute:
“No Housing Bubble to Pop,” Washington Post (March 2, 2005): “[T]he housing markets will cool as interest rates rise and as affordability declines, but they won’t crash. Most markets will flatten for a while or increase at lower, more historical, rates. A few may decline for a year or two. But we won’t have a crash.”
17. Margaret Hwang Smith, professor of economics, Pomona College, and Gary Smith, professor of economics, Pomona College:
“Bubble, Bubble, Where’s the Housing Bubble?,”Brookings Papers on Economic Activity (2006): “Our evidence indicates that, even though prices have risen rapidly and some buyers have unrealistic expectations of continuing price increases, the bubble is not, in fact, a bubble in most of these areas in that, under a variety of plausible assumptions, buying a house at current market prices still appears to be an attractive long-term investment.”
18. Charles Himmelberg, economist, New York Fed:
“Assessing High House Prices: Bubbles, Fundamentals, and Misperceptions,” Federal Reserve Bank of New York Staff Reports (September 2005): “As of the end of 2004, our analysis reveals little evidence of a housing bubble. In high appreciation markets like San Francisco, Boston, and New York, current housing prices are not cheap, but our calculations do not reveal large price increases in excess of fundamentals.”
19. Jim Jubak, investing columnist, MSN Money:
“Why There is No Housing Bubble,” MSN Money (June 10, 2005): “Housing bubble? What housing bubble? With the 10-year U.S. Treasury bond yielding below 4% and 30-year mortgages available at 5.1%, there isnt a housing bubble.”
20. James F. Smith, director, Center for Business Forecasting:
“There is No Housing Bubble in the USA: Housing Activity Will Remain At High Levels in 2005 and Beyond,” Business Economics (April 2005): “There is no evidence of a housing ‘bubble’ in the United States and housing demand should stay strong for years to come.”
21. Kathryn Jean Lopez, editor, National Review Online:
“Don’t be Myth-Understood,” National Review (December 21, 2005): “[T]he so-called housing bubble has yet to pop, and likely won’t as long as home ownership remains a tax-advantaged event. Even the New York Times — no parrot of White House talking points — has had to admit that the economy is ‘booming.’”
22. Samuel Lieber, president, Alpine Woods Capital Investors:
“Housing Bubble? The Market Won’t Pop, Experts Predict,” Wall Street Journal (April 12, 2006): “We don’t see a bubble. Historically, home prices just don’t go down nationwide unless we are in a significant recession. The last time home prices fell nationwide was in 1990. It’s employment that really counts. The underlying fundamentals of real estate are still very positive. Job creation and household formation drive housing.”
23. Mark Vitner, senior economist, Wachovia:
“There is No Housing Bubble, Says Senior Economist,” The Virginia-Pilot (January 19, 2006): “‘Everybody is looking for evidence of a housing bubble,’ [Vitner] said. ‘There is not a housing bubble. The supply had not kept up with demand.’”
24. George Karvel, professor of real estate, St. Thomas University:
“Housing bubble?,” Minneapolis Star Tribune, October 4, 2005 (via LEXIS): “‘There’s no housing bubble,’ said George Karvel, a professor of real estate at the University of St. Thomas. ‘This is a media-induced frenzy. If I wanted to say there is a housing bubble, I’d have Time and Money magazine camped on my door. They’ve called, and I’ve told them there’s no bubble. Panic sells.”
…
“There is absolutely nothing in any market in the country to indicate there’d be any kind of collapse in housing prices,’ he said.”
“No Housing Bubble Trouble,”Washington Times (January 8, 2005): “In short, we are asked to worry about something that has never happened for reasons still to be coherently explained. ‘Housing bubble’ worrywarts have long been hopelessly confused. It would have been financially foolhardy to listen to them in 2002. It still is.”
“Recession Fairy Tales,” Townhall (October 5, 2006): “When it comes to homes . . . many people have spent the last four years fretting that the ‘housing bubble’ might end. That is, they worried that overpriced homes might become more affordable. This is not quite as nonsensical as worrying the price of oil might fall too much, but it’s close.”
2. Kevin Hassett, American Enterprise Institute:
New York Times (July 25, 2004): “Another bubble-skeptic is Kevin Hassett, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute and co-author of the fabled ‘Dow 36,000,’ which was published in 1999 when the Dow Jones index was around 11,000. Mr. Hassett says there is an ideological component to the belief in bubbles. Liberals, who tend to believe that government must step in to protect people from market imperfections, will likely see more of them. Conservatives, who like their markets unfettered, will see less.
…
“Mr. Hassett of the conservative American Enterprise Institute thinks housing prices will be pretty much O.K. He acknowledges there might be some bubble dynamics at play in some regions. But he argues that for the most part people are paying more for homes because their incomes are higher and interest rates are lower, reducing the cost to own a home.
“Mr. Hassett expects that rising interest rates would raise this cost and home prices would then decline proportionately. But he sees no reason to expect a catastrophic decline. ‘I don’t think a catastrophe is very likely,’ he says.
3. James K. Glassman, American Enterprise Institute:
“Housing Bubble?,” Capitalism Magazine (May 24, 2005): “[W]hile such signs of speculation are troubling, there is little solid evidence that a real estate bubble is puffing up.
…
“Even in places where prices are soaring, worries of a bubble could be overblown because higher prices appear grounded in good old fundamentals.”
4. Jude Wanniski, journalist/hack:
“There is No Housing Bubble!!,” The Conservative Voice (August 13, 2005).
5. Jerry Bowyer, author of The Bush Boom:
“Hate to Burst Your (Housing) Bubble: But there isn’t one,” National Review (July 5, 2006).
6. Nicolas P. Restinas, director, Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies:
“More Than a Bubble Keeps Housing Prices Sky-High,” LA Times (May 20, 2004).
7. Jim Cramer, host of CNBC’s “Mad Money”:
“House Beautiful,” New York Magazine (December 8, 2003): “Housing bubble? What housing bubble? The signs are in place for a further run-up in real estate. Breathe easy, mortgage holders. There’s still no place like home.”
8. Neil Barsky, Alson Capital Partners, LLC:
“What Housing Bubble?,” Wall Street Journal (July 28, 2005): “There is no housing bubble in this country. Our strong housing market is a function of myriad factors with real economic underpinnings: low interest rates, local job growth, the emotional attachment one has for one’s home, one’s view of one’s future earning- power, and parental contributions, all have done their part to contribute to rising home prices.
…
“What we do have is a serious housing shortage and housing affordability crisis.”
9. Chris Mayer, professor of real estate, Columbia Business School, and Todd Sinai, professor of real estate, Wharton:
“Bubble Trouble? Not Likely,” Wall Street Journal (September 19, 2005): “For the past several years, Chicken Littles have squawked that the sky — or the ceiling — is about to fall on the housing market. And it’s tempting to believe them.
…
“Yet basic economic logic suggests that this apparent evidence of a bubble is anything but. Even in the highest-price cities, housing is, at most, slightly more expensive than average.”
10. Jonathan McCarthy, senior economist, New York Fed, and Richard W. Peach, vice president, New York Fed:
“Are Home Prices the Next Bubble?,” FRBNY Economic Policy Review (December 2004): “Home prices have been rising strongly since the mid-1990s, prompting concerns that a bubble exists in this asset class and that home prices are vulnerable to a collapse that could harm the U.S. economy.
…
“A close analysis of the U.S. housing market in recent years, however, finds little basis for such concerns. The marked upturn in home prices is largely attributable to strong market fundamentals: Home prices have essentially moved in line with increases in family income and declines in nominal mortgage interest rates.”
11. David Malpass, chief economist, Bear Stearns:
“So This is a Weak Economy?,” Wall Street Journal (June 28, 2005): “[T]he litany against the U.S. economy is so ingrained and familiar that few disputed this spring’s ‘slowdown.’ When strong data on income, employment, consumption and profits showed 3.5% first-quarter GDP growth and a continuation into the second quarter, the headlines shifted to other attacks — adjustable-rate mortgages, a housing ‘bubble,’ the distribution of income — rather than revising the slowdown story.”
12. Steve Forbes, CEO, Forbes, Inc.:
Global Leaders Speakers Series (November 10, 2005):”[Forbes] maintained that there was no ‘housing bubble’ in the U.S. but there was an “oil bubble” driven by speculators.”
13. Brian S. Wesbury, chief investment strategist, Claymore Advisors:
“Mr. Greenspan’s Cappuccino,” Wall Street Journal (May 31, 2005): “These nattering nabobs expect a housing collapse to take down the U.S. economy. But excessive pessimism is unwarranted: Fears of a housing bubble are overblown.”
14. Noel Sheppard, economist, Business & Media Institute:
“Media Myths: The Housing Bubble is Bursting,”Business & Media Institute (Nov. 30, 2005): “The increase in real estate values the past five years has not resembled the rapid rise typically seen in a bubble.”
15. Carl Steidtmann, chief economist, Deloitte Research:
“The Housing Bubble Myth,” Economist’s Corner (July 2005): “When you strip away all of the white noise around a housing bubble, what you find is a robust market for housing that is undergoing several profound changes all of which manifest themselves in higher home price indexes, none of which adds up to a housing price bubble.”
16. John K. McIlwain, senior resident fellow for housing, Urban Land Institute:
“No Housing Bubble to Pop,” Washington Post (March 2, 2005): “[T]he housing markets will cool as interest rates rise and as affordability declines, but they won’t crash. Most markets will flatten for a while or increase at lower, more historical, rates. A few may decline for a year or two. But we won’t have a crash.”
17. Margaret Hwang Smith, professor of economics, Pomona College, and Gary Smith, professor of economics, Pomona College:
“Bubble, Bubble, Where’s the Housing Bubble?,”Brookings Papers on Economic Activity (2006): “Our evidence indicates that, even though prices have risen rapidly and some buyers have unrealistic expectations of continuing price increases, the bubble is not, in fact, a bubble in most of these areas in that, under a variety of plausible assumptions, buying a house at current market prices still appears to be an attractive long-term investment.”
18. Charles Himmelberg, economist, New York Fed:
“Assessing High House Prices: Bubbles, Fundamentals, and Misperceptions,” Federal Reserve Bank of New York Staff Reports (September 2005): “As of the end of 2004, our analysis reveals little evidence of a housing bubble. In high appreciation markets like San Francisco, Boston, and New York, current housing prices are not cheap, but our calculations do not reveal large price increases in excess of fundamentals.”
19. Jim Jubak, investing columnist, MSN Money:
“Why There is No Housing Bubble,” MSN Money (June 10, 2005): “Housing bubble? What housing bubble? With the 10-year U.S. Treasury bond yielding below 4% and 30-year mortgages available at 5.1%, there isnt a housing bubble.”
20. James F. Smith, director, Center for Business Forecasting:
“There is No Housing Bubble in the USA: Housing Activity Will Remain At High Levels in 2005 and Beyond,” Business Economics (April 2005): “There is no evidence of a housing ‘bubble’ in the United States and housing demand should stay strong for years to come.”
21. Kathryn Jean Lopez, editor, National Review Online:
“Don’t be Myth-Understood,” National Review (December 21, 2005): “[T]he so-called housing bubble has yet to pop, and likely won’t as long as home ownership remains a tax-advantaged event. Even the New York Times — no parrot of White House talking points — has had to admit that the economy is ‘booming.’”
22. Samuel Lieber, president, Alpine Woods Capital Investors:
“Housing Bubble? The Market Won’t Pop, Experts Predict,” Wall Street Journal (April 12, 2006): “We don’t see a bubble. Historically, home prices just don’t go down nationwide unless we are in a significant recession. The last time home prices fell nationwide was in 1990. It’s employment that really counts. The underlying fundamentals of real estate are still very positive. Job creation and household formation drive housing.”
23. Mark Vitner, senior economist, Wachovia:
“There is No Housing Bubble, Says Senior Economist,” The Virginia-Pilot (January 19, 2006): “‘Everybody is looking for evidence of a housing bubble,’ [Vitner] said. ‘There is not a housing bubble. The supply had not kept up with demand.’”
24. George Karvel, professor of real estate, St. Thomas University:
“Housing bubble?,” Minneapolis Star Tribune, October 4, 2005 (via LEXIS): “‘There’s no housing bubble,’ said George Karvel, a professor of real estate at the University of St. Thomas. ‘This is a media-induced frenzy. If I wanted to say there is a housing bubble, I’d have Time and Money magazine camped on my door. They’ve called, and I’ve told them there’s no bubble. Panic sells.”
…
“There is absolutely nothing in any market in the country to indicate there’d be any kind of collapse in housing prices,’ he said.”
Grappig om te zien dat alleen de mensen die een eigen huis hebben of er hun geld mee verdienen beweren dat er geen zeepbel isquote:Op maandag 31 januari 2011 14:34 schreef huizenmarkt-zeepbel.nl het volgende:
25 Scorpie
26 Whuzz
27 Sjabba
28 Bijvlagenzinvol
Calm down, your nervous state
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
29 september 2008, Rienk Kamer, held van Zeepbal
- Fortis gaat het niet redden
- verwachting dat deze crisis de komende 2 jaar nog gaat voortduren
- posities innemen voordat een nieuwe aandelen hausse in 2012 gaat ontstaan
- Fortis gaat het niet redden
- verwachting dat deze crisis de komende 2 jaar nog gaat voortduren
- posities innemen voordat een nieuwe aandelen hausse in 2012 gaat ontstaan
Life lies a slow suicide
Orthodox dreams and symbolic myths
From feudal serf to spender
This wonderful world of purchase
Orthodox dreams and symbolic myths
From feudal serf to spender
This wonderful world of purchase
Nog bizarder om te zien dat mensen die het eigenlijk niet eens uit zou moeten maken zich stiekem toch heel druk maken over die bubble. Dubbele agenda jongens?quote:
[..]
Grappig om te zien dat alleen de mensen die een eigen huis hebben of er hun geld mee verdienen beweren dat er geen zeepbel is
Natuurlijk maakt het mij wel uit, ik als belastingbetaler ga ook meebetalen aan het opruimen van de rotzooiquote:
[..]
Nog bizarder om te zien dat mensen die het eigenlijk niet eens uit zou moeten maken zich stiekem toch heel druk maken over die bubble. Dubbele agenda jongens?
Calm down, your nervous state
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
quote:
25 Scorpie
26 Whuzz
27 Sjabba
28 Bijvlagenzinvol
Grappig om te zien dat je blijkbaar als huurder zijnde ook niet kan lezen. Ik moet de eerste quote van mij die een bubble ontkend nog zien namelijk. Dus Teelbal/Zaadbal/Grefobal, kom maar opquote:
[..]
Grappig om te zien dat alleen de mensen die een eigen huis hebben of er hun geld mee verdienen beweren dat er geen zeepbel is
Ooh... sorry scorp... ik dacht dat jij een huizenmarktoptimist was 
Calm down, your nervous state
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
Eerder een realistquote:
Ooh... sorry scorp... ik dacht dat jij een huizenmarktoptimist was
Plaats 27 pas!?!?quote:
25 Scorpie
26 Whuzz
27 Sjabba
28 Bijvlagenzinvol
Maar ik heb ook nergens een bubble ontkent.
Fuck catching lightning, he struck it
screamed shut up at thunder, then flipped the world upside down
and made it rain upward
screamed shut up at thunder, then flipped the world upside down
and made it rain upward
Calm down, your nervous state
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
Wat kon je vroeger toch lekker veel lenen. heerlijk was dat, keukentje, nieuwe badkamer, nieuwe tuin, alles voor één handtekeningetje. Iedereen deed het...
Je quote 28 vooraanstaand economen die jou tegenspreken. Die zijn makkelijk te vinden.quote:
25 Scorpie
26 Whuzz
27 Sjabba
28 Bijvlagenzinvol
Nu de mensen die je gelijk geven:
1) Zaadbel
2) Xeno
3).... ?
Ik ben diegene waar je moeder je altijd voor gewaarschuwd heeft...
Ehm Einstein? Bij welke rente was dat? Zonder dat percentage is je hele tabel (zoals gebruikelijk) waardeloos.quote:
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Wat kon je vroeger toch lekker veel lenen. heerlijk was dat, keukentje, nieuwe badkamer, nieuwe tuin, alles voor één handtekeningetje. Iedereen deed het...
Anno 2011 kun je bij 5% voor 15 jaar onder NHG lenen:
30.000 ¤ 143.400
40.000 ¤ 191.200
50.000 ¤ 254.600
De rest zoek je zelf maar op.
Ik ben diegene waar je moeder je altijd voor gewaarschuwd heeft...
En dat natuurlijk. Er is geen woningeigenaar in NL die zich zo druk maakt over de huizenprijzen dan een halve zeepbel of een halve Xeno.quote:
Nog bizarder om te zien dat mensen die het eigenlijk niet eens uit zou moeten maken zich stiekem toch heel druk maken over die bubble. Dubbele agenda jongens?
Ik ben diegene waar je moeder je altijd voor gewaarschuwd heeft...
(De eerste 25 zaten er al compleet naast. Dat waren niet allemaal economen, ook type Harry Mens vriendjes)quote:
[..]
Je quote 28 vooraanstaand economen die jou tegenspreken. Die zijn makkelijk te vinden.
Nu de mensen die je gelijk geven:
1) Zaadbel
2) Xeno
3).... ?
Gelijk geven? Boeiend, ik ben geen schaap. Anders had ik ik ook wel een huis bij elkaar geleend.
Dan kom jij toch echt op een derde plaats. Vele worden pas over 2 jaar wakker.quote:
[..]
En dat natuurlijk. Er is geen woningeigenaar in NL die zich zo druk maakt over de huizenprijzen dan een halve zeepbel of een halve Xeno.
Niet iedereen is een leenkneusquote:
[..]
Ehm Einstein? Bij welke rente was dat? Zonder dat percentage is je hele tabel (zoals gebruikelijk) waardeloos.
Anno 2011 kun je bij 5% voor 15 jaar onder NHG lenen:
30.000 ¤ 143.400
40.000 ¤ 191.200
50.000 ¤ 254.600
De rest zoek je zelf maar op.
O, ik had nog meer kunnen lenen
Misschien gaat het lenen dan toch niet alleen om het maximum, maar gewoon of je het huis wat je wilt kopen kunt betalen?
Misschien gaat het lenen dan toch niet alleen om het maximum, maar gewoon of je het huis wat je wilt kopen kunt betalen?
quote:
ik ben geen schaap. Anders had ik ik ook wel een huis bij elkaar geleend.
Calm down, your nervous state
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
Zag op het nieuws dat de verhuisindustrie weer aantrekt
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Oscar, jij mag mijn landgoed als ik kom te overlijden. - Monkyyy
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Oscar, jij mag mijn landgoed als ik kom te overlijden. - Monkyyy
Tja... genoeg bedrijven die nu een goedkopere bedrijfsruimte weten te vindenquote:
Zag op het nieuws dat de verhuisindustrie weer aantrekt
Calm down, your nervous state
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
I'll sing you a lullaby.
Calm down, cause no mistake
Should keep you up all night
