Ze hebben het niet over de advocaten van Assange.quote:and gave lawyers representing Sweden two hours to lodge
Nee alles staat gewoon op betrouwbare nieuwssites.quote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 17:06 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Sarren kan veel beter. Dit is desinfomeren.
Nou post daar dan van, en ga geen dingen verzinnen.quote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 17:38 schreef Maanvis het volgende:
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Nee alles staat gewoon op betrouwbare nieuwssites.
zoek zelf dan! dat gedoe van het is om de leaks te doen ipv de verkrachtingszaak is juist verzinnen van dingetjesquote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 17:40 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Nou post daar dan van, en ga geen dingen verzinnen.
Dan is het duidelijk dat de overlevering niet door zal gaan uiteindelijk, tenzij er nieuwe feiten aan het licht komen.quote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 17:08 schreef Jane het volgende:
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Nee, ze hebben 2 uur de tijd gekregen om in beroep te gaan:
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Het hele artikel van The Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)an-assange-wikileaks
Dit is ook wel interessant trouwens (uit hetzelfde artikel):
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M.a.w., Zweden moet een echte, 'bewezen' aanklacht hebben tegen Assage. Overlevering vragen om hem alleen te verhoren is niet voldoende.
Dat is de schuld van de tegenstanders van WikiLeaks.quote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 17:41 schreef Maanvis het volgende:
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zoek zelf dan! dat gedoe van het is om de leaks te doen ipv de verkrachtingszaak is juist verzinnen van dingetjes
marianne ny is geen tegenstander van wikileaks (zegt ze).quote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 17:47 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Dat is de schuld van de tegenstanders van WikiLeaks.
Propaganda dus.quote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 17:47 schreef Maanvis het volgende:
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marianne ny is geen tegenstander van wikileaks (zegt ze).
leg eens uit?quote:
quote:4.55pm: Big news if true: Swedish prosecutors will not appeal, according to ABC's Jim Sciutto.
Dus, assangefans en anon-kiddies, maak je spaarpot leeg!quote:4.59pm: More from Stephens about Assange's prospects of freedom:
It is impossible to say how long it will take before Mr Assange is out. The problem is that £200,000 can't be paid in by cheque because cheques take seven days to clear. We have to go around to find money in cash. Until this court is in possession of £200,000, an innocent man stays in jail.
Stephens trotted out the adjectives to describe the conditions that Assange is being held – he used the words Orwellian, Dickensian and Victorian.
Hij krijgt dus een enkelband en moet op een vaste locatie blijven.quote:4.46pm: The Swedish process is an abusive process, Stephens claimed, adding that supporting material for the case had still not been provided. Assange will remain in jail until tomorrow or Thursday unless £200,000 in cash can be found. If the cash is stumped up, he will be freed.
Stephens said bail conditions involved Assange staying in a particular location so he could be geo-located with an electronic tag.
He is being kept in solitary confinement for 23 hours, Stephens said. His mail is not getting through and he is not being allowed to read newspapers. He said Assange was worried about his colleagues at WikiLeaks.
Misschien komt 'ie zelf voor in de cables?quote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 18:13 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:
Waarom heeft de zelfgekroonde koning van de politieke correctheid en vriend van Afrika meneer Bono nog geen uitspraak gedaan over Wikileaks vraag ik me ineens af. Wikileaks heeft veel gedaan tegen de Corruptie daar.
Nu dus zo'n beetje.quote:5.12pm: Stephens says the court will meet again at 5.15pm. At that point, the Swedish authorities will make it clear whether they will launch an appeal.
http://cablesearch.org/ doe het zelf maarquote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 18:14 schreef Jane het volgende:
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Misschien komt 'ie zelf voor in de cables?
Ff aan the Guardian vragen om naar Bono te zoeken.
Aanklagers gaan in hoger beroep. Dus Assange zit sowieso nog 48u vast.quote:swajones
Decision challenged. Appeal within 48 hrs
Maar dat zijn alleen de reeds vrijgegeven cables toch? The Guardian kan in alles zoeken en daar dan over berichten.quote:Op dinsdag 14 december 2010 18:19 schreef Maanvis het volgende:
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http://cablesearch.org/ doe het zelf maar. Veel teveel matches omdat de spaanse minister van defensie ook zo heet
quote:5.26pm: Forget the last half an hour – the decision will be challenged by the Swedish authorities. There's going to be an appeal within 48 hours, Sam reports.
Polenquote:[...]
Around three people per day are now extradited from the UK, and there is little to suggest that the majority are terrorists or serious criminals. In fact those involved in the process agree that many of the cases are "trivial".
This month I watched proceedings in Westminster magistrates' court as Jacek Jaskolski, a disabled 58-year-old science teacher, fought an EAW issued against him by his native Poland. Jaskolski also the primary carer for his disabled wife has been in the UK since 2004. His crime? Ten years ago, when he still lived in Poland, Jaskolski went over his bank overdraft limit.
There are instances when unauthorised bank borrowing can have criminal elements, but this is not one of them. The bank recovered the money, and there is no allegation of dishonesty. A similar case in Britain would be a civil, not a criminal, matter.
But it is a criminal offence in Poland, where every criminal offence has to be investigated and prosecuted, no matter how trivial. As a result Poland requested 5,000 extraditions last year alone, accounting for 40% of all those dealt with by Britain. By contrast the UK made just 220 requests.
In 2008 a Polish man was extradited for theft of a dessert from a restaurant, using a European arrest warrant containing a list of the ingredients. People are being flown to Poland in specially chartered planes to answer charges that would not be thought worthy of an arrest in the UK, while we pick up the tab for police, court, experts' and lawyers' time to process a thousand cases a year. This whole costly system is based on the assumption that the criminal justice systems of countries such as Poland are reasonable enough that it is worth complying with all their requests.
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In both the Assange and the Jaskolski cases the EAW is set on a collision course where the labyrinthine world of EU mutual recognition meets the reality of defendants' rights. And suddenly the mutual confidence that the public are meant to have in the criminal justice systems of other EU states in Sweden's immunity from pursuing a politically motivated rape claim, or Poland's ability to be reasonable does not seem to exist after all.
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