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Op maandag 13 juni 2011 11:35 schreef Herr_Uberfrutzel het volgende:
Wel jammer van de verhaallijn dat de kwantummechanica eerst wordt gebruikt om aan te tonen dat er ontelbaar veel verschillende werelden zijn (wat dan nog een beetje conform de threorie is) en dat er op het einde middels een smsje of email contact wordt gemaakt tussen twee van die werelden (dat is dan weer jammer en gezocht).

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Op maandag 13 juni 2011 11:35 schreef Herr_Uberfrutzel het volgende:
en dat er op het einde middels een smsje of email contact wordt gemaakt tussen twee van die werelden (dat is dan weer jammer en gezocht).

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Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 21:24 schreef -Strawberry- het volgende:
Ik had de film beter gevonden als hij dood was gegaan.

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Op woensdag 15 juni 2011 01:16 schreef Dj_Day-V het volgende:

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Ey bedankt voor de spoiler hé

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Op woensdag 15 juni 2011 02:20 schreef Dj_Day-V het volgende:
Oh, dus ik mag niet meer kijken of mensen een film goed vinden zonder spoiler, mkay

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Op maandag 13 juni 2011 11:43 schreef Stefan het volgende:

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Alleen, hoe kan Stevens in Seans lichaam komen als Sean niet doodgaat. En wie zit er in dat halve lichaam van Stevens.

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Op woensdag 15 juni 2011 15:34 schreef .aeon het volgende:

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Dit, jammer genoeg.

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Op donderdag 16 juni 2011 17:14 schreef Xrenity het volgende:

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Nouja, de vraag is dan dus hoe kan Stevens uberhaubt in Seans lichaam komen. Elke keer als hij erin duikt ontstaat er een parallel universum.

Alleen gaat hij normaal elke keer dood waardoor zijn leven in dat universum eindigt, maar het universum bestaat in principe wel.

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Op donderdag 16 juni 2011 17:29 schreef muhahaha het volgende:

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Hij wordt toch gekoppelt aan het brein van Sean en kan de laatste 8 minuten herbeleven. Eigenlijk ging het daar al mis, je kan iemands herinneringen niet aanpassen zoals ze dat in de film deden .

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Op donderdag 16 juni 2011 17:14 schreef Xrenity het volgende:

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Nouja, de vraag is dan dus hoe kan Stevens uberhaubt in Seans lichaam komen. Elke keer als hij erin duikt ontstaat er een parallel universum.

Alleen gaat hij normaal elke keer dood waardoor zijn leven in dat universum eindigt, maar het universum bestaat in principe wel.

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Op donderdag 16 juni 2011 21:45 schreef Herr_Uberfrutzel het volgende:


Stel nou dat ze toch in hetzelfde universum zitten en dat er daarom een sms kan worden verstuurd, hoe kan dan de bom zowel ontploft zijn als niet ontploft zijn? Want dát was de reden om het Source Code project te starten: het ontploffen van de trein .

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Op donderdag 16 juni 2011 21:58 schreef Stefan het volgende:

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De bom is op het eind NIET ontploft, Goodwin komt op haar werk, de ochtend van diezelfde dag en Stevens is nooit ingezet in de SourceCode. Dat is de realiteit. Stevens heeft wel Seans lichaam overgenomen. In dit universum krijgt Goodwin de SMS.

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Op donderdag 16 juni 2011 22:07 schreef Herr_Uberfrutzel het volgende:

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Ah, ok. Ik dacht dat dezelfde dag weer van voor af aan begon.

Tnx

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Op maandag 11 juli 2011 14:07 schreef raptorix het volgende:
Goede film, inception vond ik maar niks, heb hem na een half uur afgezet. Ground Hog Day moet ik nog steeds een keer zien

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Op maandag 11 juli 2011 14:56 schreef -Strawberry- het volgende:

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Hoe kun je die film na een half uur al afzetten...

SPOILER

PLOT EXPLANATION – SPOILERS AHEAD
The film’s action begins in what I’ll be framing as reality B, but to make the explanation more linear and easier to follow, we’ll begin two months previously, in another baseline reality altogether.

In reality A, US Army Captain Colter Stevens is nearly killed in action, flying a helicopter on his third tour of duty in Afghanistan, and losing all but his torso, head and left arm (minus hand). However, he fits the criteria for Dr. Rutledge’s experimental ‘Source Code’ program, so his life is preserved, and what’s left of him is stabilised and transported back to the program’s facility at CAOC-N – the Combined Air Operations Centre at Nellis AFB, Nevada, USA.

Colter cannot recall the previous two months of unsuccessful Source Code missions, because his memory is wiped as part of the preparation protocol for each subsequent mission. Subjectively, his first experience of consciousness since being attacked in his helicopter over Afghanistan is ‘awakening’ in the body of history teacher Sean Fentress on a Chicago bound commuter train, in Illinois, USA (the film’s scene #1). He subsequently learns from his handler USAF Captain Colleen Goodwin and program director Dr. Rutledge that:
• Sean Fentress was killed in this train earlier that morning;
• the Source Code medics recovered Sean’s short-term memory from his dying brain;
• the beginning of those memories have set the initial conditions for a simulation of the last eight minutes before the train bomb killed Sean, Christina Warren, and everybody else on the train (100+ fatalities).

We are led to believe, by Colter’s supposition and Goodwin’s exposition, that these simulations are being run on a supercomputer at Nellis AFB, interfaced directly with the still living pre-frontal and visual cortices of Colter’s brain, all in reality A. What we gradually discover is MUCH stranger still. Each time a simulation is initiated, the Source Code technology creates an alternate reality via quantum decoherence, budded off from reality A, and beginning eight minutes before the train bomb detonation. So the ‘simulation’ actually runs in an alternate world in the many-worlds multiverse – and we see what Colter manages to accomplish in realities B, C, D, etc. The Source Code technology manages to allow Colter’s consciousness from reality A to partake of interactions in realities B, C, D, etc., then return to reality A to report his findings to Captain Goodwin. Eventually (let’s say in reality P), he identifies the terrorist as Derek Frost and the registration plate number of his white van, in time for a SWAT team in reality A to prevent Frost from detonating his van’s dirty bomb in downtown Chicago (saving an estimated two million lives).

In defying Dr. Rutledge’s order to wipe Colter’s memory of this mission’s success, and allowing Colter a final Source Code run (reality Q) before terminating his life support, reality A’s Captain Goodwin unwittingly provides Colter’s reality A consciousness with an escape route. In reality A, Goodwin terminates Colter’s life support, and what’s left of his body dies – but his consciousness survives intact elsewhere in reality Q, kissing Christina on the train.

In reality Q, Colter has disarmed the the train bomb’s twin cell phone detonators, covertly apprehended Derek Frost on the train, and dropped the dime to the FBI from one of the train bomb’s detonator cell phones, pretending to be Frost in confession mode. He then sent an email to reality Q’s Captain Goodwin, letting her know that Derek Frost’s terrorist attacks in reality Q were thwarted by his collaboration with reality A’s Captain Goodwin.

Confirming his previous intuition, Colter’s reality A consciousness in reality Q’s Sean Fentress body realises he isn’t in an eight minute time bounded simulation, but in an alternate reality, with a new girlfriend to boot! (Save The World and Get The Girl!). No doubt he’ll find accommodating to life as Sean Fentress tricky, but he has transcended his death in reality A to be given a whole new life to live, explore and enjoy in reality Q. So now reality Q contains two versions of Colter’s consciousness – one in what’s left of his own body in Nevada, and one in the Sean Fentress body in Chicago. We presume the former will be sent on further Source Code missions to still other branching realities, budding off from reality Q, while the latter is free to live a “Happy Ever After” ending with Christina Warren.

But what about poor old Sean Fentress from reality A? His consciousness ended with his death, when the train bomb took his life in reality A. Realities B, C, D, ... P, & Q were created by the Source Code technology via quantum decoherence as branching realities, predicated upon reality A, beginning eight minutes before the train bomb’s detonation, and containing the consciousness of Colter in Sean’s brain. In the realities in which Colter failed in his mission (B through to P), the body of Sean Fentress loses it’s life either in:
• a train bomb explosion (realities B, C, and E - O)
• being run down by an express train on the tracks at Glenbrook station (reality D)
• being shot down in the Glenbrook station car park by Frost (reality P)

And what of Christina Warren?
• In realities A, B, C, and E - O, she is killed by the train bomb.
• In reality D, she lives (but witnesses her friend Sean being killed by an express train on the tracks at Glenbrook station).
• In reality Q, she begins a romantic relationship in Chicago with the “new Sean” – Colter’s reality A consciousness in reality Q’s Sean Fentress body.

Final twist: despite coincidental appearances to the contrary, reality A is an alternative parallel reality to the one that we’re living and communicating in, for at lest two reasons.
(1) Contemporary neuroscience does not know nearly enough about the human brain to be able to transcribe memories, let alone to interface directly with the living pre-frontal and visual cortices of a brain.
(2) Back in reality A, Colter’s unit was the US Army’s 17th Airborne Division, for which he was flying helicopters in Afghanistan; in our reality the 17th Airborne Division was disbanded on 16 June 1945.