BNW Brave New World
Samenzwering, verborgen agenda's en geheime geschiedenis. De zoektocht naar de wereld die achter de façade van alledag ligt.
De kritiek op Obama groeit maar is geen rassenhaat volgens Jon voight (vader Angelina Jolie)
Jon voight Letter - "Obama is a destroying out country" Not a race issue!
Jon voight Letter - "Obama is a destroying out country" Not a race issue!
En? Wat is nou de uitkomst van de 'hoorzitting'?quote:Op vrijdag 14 mei 2010 12:44 schreef mediacurator het volgende:
De kritiek op Obama groeit maar is geen rassenhaat volgens Jon voight (vader Angelina Jolie)
Jon voight Letter - "Obama is a destroying out country" Not a race issue!
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Jullie kunnen wel allemaal kritiek overnemen van Amerikanen maar kijk eens met een Nederlands oog naar Obama. Een Amerikaan staat al op zijn achterpoten van communisme te schreeuwen als er een snelheidscamera langs de weg staat, omdat hij niet op een foto van de overheid wil staan. Je moet met een hele andere lat meten als je kritiek op Obama wilt geven. Vergeleken met Nederland is Obama nog steeds erg rechts terwijl hij in Amerika door zeer veel mensen als een linkse communist gezien wordt.
Lees eens het boek van Sean Hannity en lach je kapot over zijn vreemde uitspraken over Obama.
Lees eens het boek van Sean Hannity en lach je kapot over zijn vreemde uitspraken over Obama.
[b]Op vrijdag 24 augustus 2007 09:50 schreef PretKroket het volgende:[/b]
dude? :') ik hoop voor je dat je niet serieus bent
Even voor jou: 2x1/2 = 1/2 x 1/2
[b]Neem mij niet tè serieus, dat doe ik zelf ook niet[/b]
dude? :') ik hoop voor je dat je niet serieus bent
Even voor jou: 2x1/2 = 1/2 x 1/2
[b]Neem mij niet tè serieus, dat doe ik zelf ook niet[/b]
Zal wel losgelopen zijn, uitgelopen op een soort schreeuwende kudde die, met de broek op de enkels, hossana aan het zingen is in hun enge kerkelijke sektegebouw.quote:Op vrijdag 14 mei 2010 18:38 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
[..]
En? Wat is nou de uitkomst van de 'hoorzitting'?
Knowledge is power, use it wisely.
TRU-Bandstemmenontcijferaar 2010
TRU-Bandstemmenontcijferaar 2010
Vandaag is de eerste dag. En het is een uur of 6 vroeger in NY. Dus ze zullen nog wel bezig zijn.
Leaf
Maar het is dus serieus doorgegaan? Dacht eigenlijk dat het wel afgeblazen zou worden op het laatste moment.quote:Op vrijdag 14 mei 2010 19:40 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
Vandaag is de eerste dag. En het is een uur of 6 vroeger in NY. Dus ze zullen nog wel bezig zijn.
Ik weet niet of het doorgegaan is. Ik ga alleen af op de genoemde data en het tijdsverschil.quote:Op vrijdag 14 mei 2010 20:09 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:
[..]
Maar het is dus serieus doorgegaan? Dacht eigenlijk dat het wel afgeblazen zou worden op het laatste moment.
Leaf
Het schema van de dagen:
quote:14 May 2010 -We will meet at 9AM on 116th street and Broadway Avenue to march around Columbia University, then get on Downtown #1 Train to 96th street then crossover on the subway station to get to the uptown side and take the #2 train to 125th street, then walk down 2 blocks down to 123rd street, Prayer, Jury processing, swearing in of the judge, establishing the parameters of the case, setting voir dire
15 May 2010 - Opening Statements by the defense, prosecution, and judge, and registering evidence
16 May 2010 - Calling witnesses, present evidence
17 May 2010 - Calling witnesses, present evidence
18 May 2010 - Calling witnesses, present evidence
19 May 2010 - All evidence will be presented, jury will go out and comeback with a verdict
Leaf
Day 1--report on the Manning trial of Barack Obama
May 15, 1:03 AMConservative Examiner Anthony G. Martin
Day 1 of the Manning trial of Barack Obama in Harlem, New York is now history. Observers from all over the world and from various states were in attendance, including persons from Germany, Canada, Hawaii, California, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, and Florida.
Today's activities were primarily preliminary--the march around Columbia University, the questioning and selection of the jury, and opening remarks by Dr. Manning.
The trial begins in earnest tomorrow.
A synopsis of Day 1 can be found at The Conservative Monster, where you will also find photos from the event. Here is an excerpt from the report:
The indictment was handed down via a grand jury and the subpoenas were refused by Columbia University and the Obama administration according to the testimony.
Indictment alleges:
1. Columbia Univ. and Obama conspired to defraud and commit wire fraud and mail fraud
2. Columbia Univ. knowingly concealed the fact that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen
3. Columbia Univ. aided in obstructing justice
4. Obama fraudulently obtained office of the POTUS gaining access to sensitive materials, posing a danger to national security.
5. The prosecution dropped the charges of treason and espionage to avoid complications with a death sentence.
Dr. Manning stated that the charges of treason and espionage were dropped due to the fact that if the jury found Obama guilty, they may recommend the death penalty. Manning said he does not believe in capital punishment and therefore recommended to the prosecution that those charges be dropped.
Controversy ensued outside the building when a few Harlem residents protested the fact that 'birthers' were in their community. They accused the gathering of being 'racist' although it was being held in a Black church and planned, organized, and implemented by a Black Harlem pastor.
Here is the video of the skirmish.
Further updates on the progress of the trial will be provided at my blog, The Liberty Sphere. as well as here at the Examiner, as the news warrants.
More About: Barack Obama · U.S. Constitution · fraud · original intent of Framers · corrupt politicians · natural born citizen · treason · Presidential eligibility
additional info at source:
http://www.examiner.com/x(...)a?cid=examiner-email
May 15, 1:03 AMConservative Examiner Anthony G. Martin
Day 1 of the Manning trial of Barack Obama in Harlem, New York is now history. Observers from all over the world and from various states were in attendance, including persons from Germany, Canada, Hawaii, California, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, and Florida.
Today's activities were primarily preliminary--the march around Columbia University, the questioning and selection of the jury, and opening remarks by Dr. Manning.
The trial begins in earnest tomorrow.
A synopsis of Day 1 can be found at The Conservative Monster, where you will also find photos from the event. Here is an excerpt from the report:
The indictment was handed down via a grand jury and the subpoenas were refused by Columbia University and the Obama administration according to the testimony.
Indictment alleges:
1. Columbia Univ. and Obama conspired to defraud and commit wire fraud and mail fraud
2. Columbia Univ. knowingly concealed the fact that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen
3. Columbia Univ. aided in obstructing justice
4. Obama fraudulently obtained office of the POTUS gaining access to sensitive materials, posing a danger to national security.
5. The prosecution dropped the charges of treason and espionage to avoid complications with a death sentence.
Dr. Manning stated that the charges of treason and espionage were dropped due to the fact that if the jury found Obama guilty, they may recommend the death penalty. Manning said he does not believe in capital punishment and therefore recommended to the prosecution that those charges be dropped.
Controversy ensued outside the building when a few Harlem residents protested the fact that 'birthers' were in their community. They accused the gathering of being 'racist' although it was being held in a Black church and planned, organized, and implemented by a Black Harlem pastor.
Here is the video of the skirmish.
Further updates on the progress of the trial will be provided at my blog, The Liberty Sphere. as well as here at the Examiner, as the news warrants.
More About: Barack Obama · U.S. Constitution · fraud · original intent of Framers · corrupt politicians · natural born citizen · treason · Presidential eligibility
additional info at source:
http://www.examiner.com/x(...)a?cid=examiner-email
Wil ik ook graag weten!quote:Op zaterdag 15 mei 2010 13:45 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
Wie doet de verdediging voor Obama?
En welke onafhankelijke rechter zit de zaak voor?
Hoezo?quote:Op zaterdag 15 mei 2010 13:52 schreef Toffe_Ellende het volgende:
wow, wordt deze topic gesponsord door uiterst rechts amerika?
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
Main Stream Media drijft nu spot met Obama Trial....
Barack Obama Goes On Trial Today In Kooky Harlem Church
Hey kids! Did you know that President Barack Obama is on trial today? It's true! See, apparently, Columbia University sold Obama his college degree, and he is also not an American citizen, so he must be tried in a Harlem Church -- for "sedition."
Here's a fun place you can go to learn about the "MASSIVE MEDIA BLACKOUT" that is underway, to prevent people from learning about how "THE LONG LEGGED MAC DADDY, HIS ENTIRE CABINET, AND ALL INVOLVED ARE GOING DOWN!!!!"
"Dr. James David Manning, founder and pastor of ATLAH World Ministries in Harlem and outspoken Obama critic, contends that Columbia University "sold" Obama a degree in Political Science, and that these allegations will be proven in a court of law in New York State!. He also believes he can prove Obama is ineligible to hold the office of President of the United States due to his failure to meet the "natural born citizen" requirement set forth in the U.S. Constitution!" Basically, Obama is a MASSIVE liar.
Everything is in place! The Judge, facts, proof, witnesses, subpoenas, jury, reporters from around the globe!! The Trial is on the calendar for May 14-19, 2010, in NYC! Many in Harlem NY are unified and will be marching!
MANNING HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS! 4 INVESTIGATORS, SEVERAL ATTORNEYS!
huffingtonpost.com
Main Stream Media drijft nu spot met Obama Trial....
Barack Obama Goes On Trial Today In Kooky Harlem Church
Hey kids! Did you know that President Barack Obama is on trial today? It's true! See, apparently, Columbia University sold Obama his college degree, and he is also not an American citizen, so he must be tried in a Harlem Church -- for "sedition."
Here's a fun place you can go to learn about the "MASSIVE MEDIA BLACKOUT" that is underway, to prevent people from learning about how "THE LONG LEGGED MAC DADDY, HIS ENTIRE CABINET, AND ALL INVOLVED ARE GOING DOWN!!!!"
"Dr. James David Manning, founder and pastor of ATLAH World Ministries in Harlem and outspoken Obama critic, contends that Columbia University "sold" Obama a degree in Political Science, and that these allegations will be proven in a court of law in New York State!. He also believes he can prove Obama is ineligible to hold the office of President of the United States due to his failure to meet the "natural born citizen" requirement set forth in the U.S. Constitution!" Basically, Obama is a MASSIVE liar.
Everything is in place! The Judge, facts, proof, witnesses, subpoenas, jury, reporters from around the globe!! The Trial is on the calendar for May 14-19, 2010, in NYC! Many in Harlem NY are unified and will be marching!
MANNING HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS! 4 INVESTIGATORS, SEVERAL ATTORNEYS!
huffingtonpost.com
Grappig dat jij dat zegt.quote:Op zaterdag 15 mei 2010 16:31 schreef mediacurator het volgende:
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
Jij bent hier diegene die simpele vragen aan het negeren is.
Leaf
Media..... ter ondersteuning...quote:Op zaterdag 15 mei 2010 16:31 schreef mediacurator het volgende:
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
Main Stream Media drijft nu spot met Obama Trial....
huffingtonpost.com
Kerken kunnen geen rechtzaak voeren.
Dat ze het een trail noemen moeten ze zelf weten.
Maar er is geen Judge en geen Jury volgen de geldende rechtsregels van zowel NYC, NY state en de Federale overheid.
Dit heet ook wel een toneelstuk!
een satire...en daar word de draak mee gestoken.... dat is toch niet vreemd.
als de KKK dit zou doen word het ook niet seriues genomen
Welcome Mr. President, How can we serve you,
wel iets meer MSM dan geen stijl....maar zeker niet dagelijkse kost zoals Foxnews/msnbc/NBC/CBS/ABCquote:Op zaterdag 15 mei 2010 17:49 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
Trouwens de Huftingpost is net zo MSM als GeenStijl of een andere weblog.
Welcome Mr. President, How can we serve you,
Al iets bekend over dag 2 MC?
Morgen trouwens een reportage van Zembla over Obama.
Morgen trouwens een reportage van Zembla over Obama.
quote:Met de ondertekening van de nieuwe zorgwet op 23 maart j.l. boekte president Obama een historische overwinning. De nieuwe wet maakt gezondheidszorg voor iedereen toegankelijk. Ook voor de 32 miljoen Amerikanen die nu nog onverzekerd zijn. Met deze nieuwe wet komt er een einde aan de jarenlange krachtmeting tussen voor- en tegenstanders van de hervormingen van de gezondheidszorg. Maar welke prijs betaalde Obama hiervoor?
In de ZEMBLA-aflevering ‘Obama’s Deal’ een reconstructie van het gevecht tussen de president, de lobbyisten van de medische industrie en het Congres. Een strijd van achterkamertjespolitiek en keiharde dollars. ZEMBLA is te zien op zondag 16 mei om 21.45 uur bij de VARA/NPS op Nederland 2.
Leaf
http://www.examiner.com/x(...)rack-Obama-in-Harlem
Helaas zullen we nieuwe updates misschien moeten missen, er is weer een nieuw schokkend onderzoek onderweg
En daar zijn ze de hele dag mee bezig geweest?quote:Day 2 summary of the trial of Barack Obama in Harlem
Today the trial got down to business following the preliminary events yesterday.
The jury was sworn in and testimony was taken. Right off the bat a witness testified to the strange circumstances surrounding Obama's selective service card. Major discrepancies regarding dates are noted, according to private investigators who uncovered the information that Obama gave false information concerning his selective service card:
"Linda Bentley, the 1st witness is sworn in. Bentley is an investigative reporter from Arizona and she was a very impressing and convincing witness with her testimony on Obama's selective service card. Bentely, also a former private investigator went into great detail how Steve Hoffman (an immigration agent) obtained Obama's selective service records. Hoffman filed a request for Obama's selective service records after he saw an interview with George Stephanopolous back in September 2008.
Obama stated during the interview that "he filed for selective service after he graduated from high school". Bentley then noted that Obama graduated in 1979 and at that time there was no requirement to file a selective service card since President Ford ended that requirement back in 1975.
Bentley then stated that Hoffman noted that the filing date on Obama's selective service card was just 6 weeks prior to when he obtained the requested information. The date filing date on the card was just two days after the Stephanopolous interview. There were many dates mentioned, but this is what your reporter is stating that he heard.
There was also an issue with the stamp on the document since there was only a two digit number year (80), rather than a four digit number (1980). Bentley questioned whether the number was made two digits to give the appearance that it was filed in 80, rather than 08 (1980 rather than 2008).
Further discrepancies were noted regarding Obama's Social Security Number, which was issued in the state of Connecticut to a man, now deceased, who was born in the year 1890 in Connecticut. Obama never lived in Connecticut. Thus, why would he have a Connecticut-issued Social Security Number from there rather than Hawaii, where he supposedly was born?
Another stunning piece of testimony was provided concerning Obama's 'certification of live birth' from Hawaii:
Obama's certificate of live birth was printed by a laser printer, but then stated that there were no laser printers back in 1961.
The serial number was blacked out on the document as to hide the date that it was actually filed.
Manning also stated that the COLB was altered and it states on the document that "any altering will make this document
invalid."
Helaas zullen we nieuwe updates misschien moeten missen, er is weer een nieuw schokkend onderzoek onderweg
quote:Further updates on Conservative Examiner may become impossible due to the new series being presented concerning our exclusive in-depth investigation revealing highly disturbing information on the government's secret plan to override our liberties and consolidate its power to oppress the citizens.
However, should that become necessary you can find daily updates on the trial at my blog, The Liberty Sphere.
Leaf
Even een leuke eruit gevist. Ik ben benieuwd hoe ze dat bepaald hebbenquote:Obama's certificate of live birth was printed by a laser printer, but then stated that there were no laser printers back in 1961.
Een xerox gebruikt vergelijkbare technologie, en die bestond toen al wel.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Als dit soort non-nieuws de standaard van BNW is kunnen ze dit forum beter opdoeken 
Er is toch allang bepaald dat die civic grand jury meer een toneelstuk is dan een inhoudelijke discussie?
Er is toch allang bepaald dat die civic grand jury meer een toneelstuk is dan een inhoudelijke discussie?
[b]Op vrijdag 24 augustus 2007 09:50 schreef PretKroket het volgende:[/b]
dude? :') ik hoop voor je dat je niet serieus bent
Even voor jou: 2x1/2 = 1/2 x 1/2
[b]Neem mij niet tè serieus, dat doe ik zelf ook niet[/b]
dude? :') ik hoop voor je dat je niet serieus bent
Even voor jou: 2x1/2 = 1/2 x 1/2
[b]Neem mij niet tè serieus, dat doe ik zelf ook niet[/b]
Waren er nog topics van jou hand te bewonderen waar we een voorbeeld aan kunnen nemen?quote:Op zondag 16 mei 2010 11:18 schreef Barcaconia het volgende:
Als dit soort non-nieuws de standaard van BNW is kunnen ze dit forum beter opdoeken
quote:Er is toch allang bepaald dat die civic grand jury meer een toneelstuk is dan een inhoudelijke discussie?
BNW is juist dé plaats hiervoorquote:Op zondag 16 mei 2010 11:18 schreef Barcaconia het volgende:
Als dit soort non-nieuws de standaard van BNW is kunnen ze dit forum beter opdoeken
Is dat niet ONZ of anders TTK? Ik ben toch wel iets meer inhoudelijke discussie gewend van BNW over het algemeenquote:
Reageren op andermans post bijvoorbeeld.
[b]Op vrijdag 24 augustus 2007 09:50 schreef PretKroket het volgende:[/b]
dude? :') ik hoop voor je dat je niet serieus bent
Even voor jou: 2x1/2 = 1/2 x 1/2
[b]Neem mij niet tè serieus, dat doe ik zelf ook niet[/b]
dude? :') ik hoop voor je dat je niet serieus bent
Even voor jou: 2x1/2 = 1/2 x 1/2
[b]Neem mij niet tè serieus, dat doe ik zelf ook niet[/b]
Ja? Dat wordt hier toch gedaan?quote:Op zondag 16 mei 2010 18:15 schreef Barcaconia het volgende:
[..]
Is dat niet ONZ of anders TTK? Ik ben toch wel iets meer inhoudelijke discussie gewend van BNW over het algemeen
Reageren op andermans post bijvoorbeeld.
http://theconservativemon(...)-pastor-manning.aspx
http://thelibertysphere.b(...)of-barack-obama.html
quote:Witness Anthony Jones:
- Anthony Jones is an attorney and a member of Pastor Manning congregation. Jones is a former Democrat that got his law degree from Vanderbilt University in Tennessee and a degree from Union Seminary school as well. He also attended Columbia University and Manning questioned him whether anyone at CU knew of Obama or went to class with him. Of course the answer was "no".
- Manning then mentioned that countless CU students have come to Atlah for research on Pastor Manning, Harlem and the church for their PHD thesis. Jones agreed that "he had witnessed many students come to Atlah to make appointments for research purposes".
- Manning then asked Jones if he had any knowledge of Obama meeting any of the community leaders or pastors in the CU area or in the Harlem area. Jones answered, "no, not that he ever heard of". James Cone and Cornel West were also influential during the 1981-1983 era that Obama allegedly went to CU and again, there is no evidence that they assisted Obama in any research of thesis.
- There is no evidence that Obama frequented the Harlem area and he barely made any mention of this in any of his writings as well. Manning stated that Obama did mention one particular church in Harlem, but only that he sat in the back row once to listen to the choir music. Central Park was mentioned also, but nothing about Harlem.
Manning also stated that there was a liberation book store that was very popular at that time and again, Obama never mentioned it and there is no proof that he ever went to that book store like most CU students do.
Manning then asked Jones if the CIA ever recruits from college universities and Jones stated, "yes". Then Afghanistan and the war with Russia was discussed briefly and then the witness testimony ended. Jones was another intelligent and credible witness that Manning put on the stand.
I am a retired cop and I must say that I am impressed by Pastor Manning's method of questioning and presentation. He is doing an amazing job. I also want to add that his congregation is made up of the most well mannered people that I have ever met. They are surrounded by God and that speaks volumes for their Pastor, James David Manning.
It is an honor that I am sitting in this court and exclusively reporting on this trial.
Steve Cooper
The Conservative Monster.com
http://thelibertysphere.b(...)of-barack-obama.html
Het begint zo toch wel een trieste lastercampagne te wordenquote:Update on Manning Trial of Barack Obama--Day 3
During the proceedings today in Harlem, New York, testimony was entered into the record from the founder of the Marxist organization at Occidental College, where Obama first entered college. The man, Dr. John Drew, is a former friend of Obama.
In this interview Dr. Drew stated:
1. Dr Drew was the founder of the Marxist Organization at Occidental College.
2. Obama was a radical Marxist revolutionary that constantly preached about redistribution of wealth and transformation of the political system.
3. Obama had no black friends, they were only white and foreigners (Middle Eastern)
4. Obama wanted to overthrow the wealthy
5. Obama had no girlfriends and that he was not a hard working student that hit the books hard. He liked to party more than study.
6. Islam and Marxism fit together perfectly and that is why leftists and the Muslim students mixed very well.
7. Obama was always dressed very nice, had designer clothes and drove in a BMW. Obama's friend Mohammed Chandoo from Pakistan seemed to be rolling in cash and Obama was not struggling at all. They spent their money on partying, pot and hotel rooms.
Pastor Manning then stated that Dr. Drew was a tremendous find, because of his close association with Obama and his radical views from his college days. Dr. Drew mentioned to Manning that he "tried to get the word out about Obama's radical views prior to the election, but nobody would listen to him."
You can read the entire summary of the day here.
Testimony was also taken regarding Obama's days at Columbia University--or I should say his absence from Columbia University where he was supposed to be a student.
Dr. Manning also announced that he will introduce into the evidence testimony from a former CIA agent who served simultaneously as a KGB spy. That information will be present on Monday
Leaf
http://thelibertysphere.b(...)in-harlem-day-4.html
3 dagen lang alleen maar roepen dat Obama niet naar een Universiteit zou zijn geweest.... Als dat HET bewijs moet zijn....quote:TUESDAY, MAY 18, 2010
Obama Trial in Harlem--Day 4
Day 4 of the big public trial of Barack Obama in Harlem, New York is now in the record books.
A recap of today's proceedings can be found here.
Here are a few highlights:
First, I want to say that I believe Pastor Manning and his witnesses are proving without a doubt that Obama did not ever attend Columbia University physically. Some of Pastor Manning's witnesses are members of his congregation, but they have been very credible with their testimony. It is their community and they know every nook and cranny of their neighborhood, unlike Obama.
Obama stated in his book "Dreams From My Father" (rumored to be written by Bill Ayers) that he briefly lived at 109th Street and Broadway in Spanish Harlem while he says he attended Columbia University. The only problem is that address in not located in Spanish Harlem and for someone to say that after living in the area and attending the University shows that they do not know the area. So, you figure that one out.
Remember that the purpose of this trial is to prove that Obama never attended Columbia University and that his degree that he obtained was allegedly bought, not earned. Columbia University refuses to comment on this issue or respond to questions. What are they so afraid of? Do you mean to tell me that these records are also sealed? Interesting...
And then there was introduced into evidence THIS video which was produced by Fox News:
Pastor Manning then submitted into evidence a documentary done by Bill Hemmer of Fox News on Obama, prior to the election. The video stated that "over 400 students and faculty were questioned and not one of them knew of Obama or the fact that he even attended Columbia University".
Intriguing information was presented concerning a break-in at the passport office involving the records of several well-known politicians...one of which, it turns out, was Barack Obama. The investigator into this matter believes that the break-in had one goal--to scrub from the record any damaging information on Barack Obama.
Leaf
En dat nog wel door complotdenkers die zelf nog nooit een universiteit van binnen gezien hebben en waarschijnlijk afgeven op iedereen die hoger onderwijs gevolgd heeftquote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:06 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
http://thelibertysphere.b(...)in-harlem-day-4.html
[..]
3 dagen lang alleen maar roepen dat Obama niet naar een Universiteit zou zijn geweest.... Als dat HET bewijs moet zijn....
Complotdenkers?quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:08 schreef Flammie het volgende:
[..]
En dat nog wel door complotdenkers die zelf nog nooit een universiteit van binnen gezien hebben en waarschijnlijk afgeven op iedereen die hoger onderwijs gevolgd heeft
Valt me nog mee dat we überhaupt zouden kunnen "denken" met dat hoogdravende toontje van je
Hoe zou jij mensen willen noemen die zeker zeggen te weten dat Obama nooit gestudeerd heeft en zijn diploma heeft gekocht?quote:
Maar wat vind jij nu van het 'proces'? Vind je het een serieus iets?
Leaf
wordt er nergens enigerlei bewijs gegeven dan?quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:14 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
[..]
Hoe zou jij mensen willen noemen die zeker zeggen te weten dat Obama nooit gestudeerd heeft en zijn diploma heeft gekocht?
Maar wat vind jij nu van het 'proces'? Vind je het een serieus iets?
of zelfs geen poging daartoe?
Nee ik zie geen overtuigend bewijs. Dat van de 1.000den mensen die op een universiteit zitten er 400 niet kunnen zeggen of ze Obama herinneren vind ik geen bewijs.quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:16 schreef mediacurator het volgende:
[..]
wordt er nergens enigerlei bewijs gegeven dan?
of zelfs geen poging daartoe?
Bewijs is aantonen dat het diploma van Obama niet echt is. Waar die het gekocht heeft of waar die dan wel heeft gezeten die jaren.
Leaf
quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:18 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
[..]
Nee ik zie geen overtuigend bewijs. Dat van de 1.000den mensen die op een universiteit zitten er 400 niet kunnen zeggen of ze Obama herinneren vind ik geen bewijs.
Bewijs is aantonen dat het diploma van Obama niet echt is. Waar die het gekocht heeft of waar die dan wel heeft gezeten die jaren.
Het liegt er zeker niet om de beschuldigingen...
Maar als een nader onderzoek het tegendeel kan uitwijzen, is het einde probleem toch?
[ Bericht 4% gewijzigd door mediacurator op 18-05-2010 20:59:13 ]
Wat mij betreft wel. Ik denk alleen niet dat de mensen die dit proces houden een onderzoek dat aantoont dat zij het fout hebben, niet accepteren.quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:20 schreef mediacurator het volgende:
[..]
Het liegt er zeker niet om de beschuldigingen...
En als een nader onderzoek het tegendeel kan uitwijzen, is het einde probleem toch?
Leaf
Dat zie je nu al aan het gedoe rond het geboortebewijs.quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:23 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
[..]
Wat mij betreft wel. Ik denk alleen niet dat de mensen die dit proces houden een onderzoek dat aantoont dat zij het fout hebben, niet accepteren.
"Obama is niet in Hawai geboren, wij willen een geldig geboortebewijs zien"
"Nou vooruit, hier is het geboortebewijs"
"Maar dat is vervalst, wij willen een echt geboortebewijs zien".
Bewijs wordt gewoon niet geaccepteerd door veel mensen.
Leaf
Dat dus. Wie kent nu iedereen die op de universiteit zit? Je kent je studiegenoten en natuurlijk de lui van de studentenvereniging, maar toch niet elke student?quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:18 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
[..]
Nee ik zie geen overtuigend bewijs. Dat van de 1.000den mensen die op een universiteit zitten er 400 niet kunnen zeggen of ze Obama herinneren vind ik geen bewijs.
Bewijs is aantonen dat het diploma van Obama niet echt is. Waar die het gekocht heeft of waar die dan wel heeft gezeten die jaren.
Alsof ze heel graag willen dát het bewijs er niet is.quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:48 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
[..]
Dat zie je nu al aan het gedoe rond het geboortebewijs.
"Obama is niet in Hawai geboren, wij willen een geldig geboortebewijs zien"
"Nou vooruit, hier is het geboortebewijs"
"Maar dat is vervalst, wij willen een echt geboortebewijs zien".
Bewijs wordt gewoon niet geaccepteerd door veel mensen.
En dan ook nog na 20 jaar.quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 22:00 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:
[..]
Dat dus. Wie kent nu iedereen die op de universiteit zit? Je kent je studiegenoten en natuurlijk de lui van de studentenvereniging, maar toch niet elke student?
Er zijn ook mensen die zich Obama wel herinneren, iemand die met hem op de kamer heeft geslapen wordt gewoon genegeerd. Ook door MC.
http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan_feb09/alumni_corner
Leaf
Idd ja...quote:Op dinsdag 18 mei 2010 20:04 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
http://theconservativemon(...)-pastor-manning.aspx
[..]
http://thelibertysphere.b(...)of-barack-obama.html
[..]
Het begint zo toch wel een trieste lastercampagne te worden
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Dat hele proces is sowieso een lachertje, opgezet vanuit die sekte. En die bewijzen. Nou, poe...vraag een willekeurige voetganger hier of hij Obama ooit vroeger heeft gezien en je krijgt ook een nee.
Maar let op, die "onbevooroordeelde" Jury zal het ongetwijfeld overtuigend bewijs vinden
Maar let op, die "onbevooroordeelde" Jury zal het ongetwijfeld overtuigend bewijs vinden
Knowledge is power, use it wisely.
TRU-Bandstemmenontcijferaar 2010
TRU-Bandstemmenontcijferaar 2010
Kreeg een e-mail van Amerikaanse vriend die ik hier wel even wilde delen!
"*Three Cheers for Obama*
*This is so well put; I'm going to carry it around in my back pocket. It's all in a NUT Shell*
BEFORE YOU THINK I'VE FLIPPED MY LID, READ THE ENTIRE COLUMN! Three Cheers for Obama! That is right - I will say it. . .. . THANK GOD FOR OBAMA!
He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine - Driving a stake thru the Heart of Hillary's Presidential aspirations--something no Republican was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillary Presidency scared the daylights out of you!
He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty - No more Kennedys trolling Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women and freedom are safer tonight!
He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes!
Dennis Moore had never lost a race - quit
Evan Bayh had never lost a race - quit
Byron Dorgan - had never lost a race - quit
Harry Reid - bid for re-election doesn't look good
These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama has destroyed! By the end of 2010 dozens more will be!
In December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats.
The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party.
In one year Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably give the house, if not the senate back to the Republicans.
He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they are.
Every generation seems to need to relearn the lesson on why they should never actually put liberals in charge.
He is bringing home the lesson very well! Liberals tax, borrow and spend - check. Liberals won't bring themselves to protect America - check. Liberals want to take over the economy - check. Liberals think they know what is best for everyone - check. Liberals aren't happy till they are running YOUR life - check.
He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since Reagan. In one year he rejuvenated the Conservative Movement and brought out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans.
Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America!
In all honesty one year ago I was more afraid than I had ever been in my life. Not of the economy, but of the direction our country was going. I thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My neighbors, friends, strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of the greatness and wisdom of the American people was flat out wrong.
When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter reader can fool them!
Obama woke up these Great Americans Again I want say Thank you Obama!
*So, Lets Recap "2009".........what a year! WOW!!!*
1. The American people inaugurate a half-Arab president with a total of 142 days experience as a US Senator from the most politically corrupt state (city) in America whose governors have been ousted from office. The President's first official act is to order the close of Gitmo and make sure terrorist⤙s civil rights are not violated. (Honest mistake?)
2. The U.S. Congress rushes to confirm a black Attorney General, Eric Holder, whose law firm we later find out represents seventeen Gitmo Terrorists. (An honest mistake?)
3. The CIA Boss appointee, Leon Panetta, has absolutely no experience.
4. We got the second most corrupt American woman (Pelosi is #1) as Secretary of State; bought and paid for. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but it still stinks!)
5. We got a Tax Cheat for Treasury Secretary who did not properly file his own taxes for 12 years. (He misspoke!)
6. A Commerce Secretary nominee who withdrew due to corruption charges. (Another honest mistake???)
7. A Tax cheat nominee for Chief Performance Officer who withdrew under charges. (Hmmm... Another screw-up?)
8. A Labor Secretary nominee who withdrew under charges of unethical conduct. (Ok, maybe this person was just plain stupid.)
9. A Secretary HHS nominee (Daschle) who withdrew under charges of cheating on his taxes. (I'm running out of excuses for these idiots!!)
10. Multiple appointments of former lobbyists after an absolute campaign statement that no lobbyists would be appointed.
(Dear God, I am getting a headache!)
All this occurred just during the _first three weeks_. . . But who's counting?
America is being run by the modern-day Three Stooges; Barry, Nancy and Harry and they are still trying to define stimulus..."it's spending!!!"
The congress passes the $800,000,000,000
(that's $800 billion) pork-loaded spending bill where the government gives you a smidgen of your tax dollars ($13 per week), making you feel so good about yourself [stimulated], that you want to run out to Wal-Mart and buy a new Chinese-made HDTV!
Only with the Liberals... Pray for our country. Here's the good news though - Obama took Air Force One to Denver to sign the stimulus package, wasting as much as 10,000 gallons of fuel OR 24 JOBS FOR ONE YEAR.
Don't you just love hypocrites? Obama went to the International Olympic Committee to have them choose Chicago for a host city, he failed. Obama went to Copenhagen to lecture them on global warming, he failed . Obama went to New Jersey to promote the Democratic candidate for governor, he failed . Obama went to Virginia to promote the Democratic candidate for governor, he failed. Obama went to Massachusetts to promote the Democratic candidate for senator, he failed.
Speaking of praying, Obama has now been president for a full year and yet he & wife (first lady) Michelle, the Christian family they claim to be, have not attended church since the inauguration.
*Obama* is the *1st president in history who did not attend any* Christmas *religious observance.* He must miss Reverend Wright!
*And finally, he is the 1st president to remain on vacation after a terrorist attack.*
In these times 'I'll keep my God, my freedom, my gun and my money. Anyone that supports this insanity can keep *"THE CHANGE".*
Just Facts...............................yet I'm sure those on the Left will say this is no big deal!!"
"*Three Cheers for Obama*
*This is so well put; I'm going to carry it around in my back pocket. It's all in a NUT Shell*
BEFORE YOU THINK I'VE FLIPPED MY LID, READ THE ENTIRE COLUMN! Three Cheers for Obama! That is right - I will say it. . .. . THANK GOD FOR OBAMA!
He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine - Driving a stake thru the Heart of Hillary's Presidential aspirations--something no Republican was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillary Presidency scared the daylights out of you!
He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty - No more Kennedys trolling Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women and freedom are safer tonight!
He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes!
Dennis Moore had never lost a race - quit
Evan Bayh had never lost a race - quit
Byron Dorgan - had never lost a race - quit
Harry Reid - bid for re-election doesn't look good
These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama has destroyed! By the end of 2010 dozens more will be!
In December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats.
The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party.
In one year Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably give the house, if not the senate back to the Republicans.
He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they are.
Every generation seems to need to relearn the lesson on why they should never actually put liberals in charge.
He is bringing home the lesson very well! Liberals tax, borrow and spend - check. Liberals won't bring themselves to protect America - check. Liberals want to take over the economy - check. Liberals think they know what is best for everyone - check. Liberals aren't happy till they are running YOUR life - check.
He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since Reagan. In one year he rejuvenated the Conservative Movement and brought out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans.
Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America!
In all honesty one year ago I was more afraid than I had ever been in my life. Not of the economy, but of the direction our country was going. I thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My neighbors, friends, strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of the greatness and wisdom of the American people was flat out wrong.
When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter reader can fool them!
Obama woke up these Great Americans Again I want say Thank you Obama!
*So, Lets Recap "2009".........what a year! WOW!!!*
1. The American people inaugurate a half-Arab president with a total of 142 days experience as a US Senator from the most politically corrupt state (city) in America whose governors have been ousted from office. The President's first official act is to order the close of Gitmo and make sure terrorist⤙s civil rights are not violated. (Honest mistake?)
2. The U.S. Congress rushes to confirm a black Attorney General, Eric Holder, whose law firm we later find out represents seventeen Gitmo Terrorists. (An honest mistake?)
3. The CIA Boss appointee, Leon Panetta, has absolutely no experience.
4. We got the second most corrupt American woman (Pelosi is #1) as Secretary of State; bought and paid for. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but it still stinks!)
5. We got a Tax Cheat for Treasury Secretary who did not properly file his own taxes for 12 years. (He misspoke!)
6. A Commerce Secretary nominee who withdrew due to corruption charges. (Another honest mistake???)
7. A Tax cheat nominee for Chief Performance Officer who withdrew under charges. (Hmmm... Another screw-up?)
8. A Labor Secretary nominee who withdrew under charges of unethical conduct. (Ok, maybe this person was just plain stupid.)
9. A Secretary HHS nominee (Daschle) who withdrew under charges of cheating on his taxes. (I'm running out of excuses for these idiots!!)
10. Multiple appointments of former lobbyists after an absolute campaign statement that no lobbyists would be appointed.
(Dear God, I am getting a headache!)
All this occurred just during the _first three weeks_. . . But who's counting?
America is being run by the modern-day Three Stooges; Barry, Nancy and Harry and they are still trying to define stimulus..."it's spending!!!"
The congress passes the $800,000,000,000
(that's $800 billion) pork-loaded spending bill where the government gives you a smidgen of your tax dollars ($13 per week), making you feel so good about yourself [stimulated], that you want to run out to Wal-Mart and buy a new Chinese-made HDTV!
Only with the Liberals... Pray for our country. Here's the good news though - Obama took Air Force One to Denver to sign the stimulus package, wasting as much as 10,000 gallons of fuel OR 24 JOBS FOR ONE YEAR.
Don't you just love hypocrites? Obama went to the International Olympic Committee to have them choose Chicago for a host city, he failed. Obama went to Copenhagen to lecture them on global warming, he failed . Obama went to New Jersey to promote the Democratic candidate for governor, he failed . Obama went to Virginia to promote the Democratic candidate for governor, he failed. Obama went to Massachusetts to promote the Democratic candidate for senator, he failed.
Speaking of praying, Obama has now been president for a full year and yet he & wife (first lady) Michelle, the Christian family they claim to be, have not attended church since the inauguration.
*Obama* is the *1st president in history who did not attend any* Christmas *religious observance.* He must miss Reverend Wright!
*And finally, he is the 1st president to remain on vacation after a terrorist attack.*
In these times 'I'll keep my God, my freedom, my gun and my money. Anyone that supports this insanity can keep *"THE CHANGE".*
Just Facts...............................yet I'm sure those on the Left will say this is no big deal!!"
Dit zijn de feiten zoals deze worden beschreven in de V.S. Toon dan ook dat het onwaarheden zou bevatten. Je geeft zo wel de indruk dat je geen kritiek op Obama zou mogen hebben. Hoe kom je daar dan bij?quote:Op woensdag 19 mei 2010 21:15 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
Dus weer niks concreets, alleen maar nog meer laster en verdachtmakingen.
Ik heb al aangetoond dat er wel degelijk mensen zijn die met Obama op de Columbia universiteit hebben gezeten.quote:Op woensdag 19 mei 2010 21:28 schreef mediacurator het volgende:
[..]
Dit zijn de feiten zoals deze worden beschreven in de V.S. Toon dan ook dat het onwaarheden zou bevatten. Je geeft zo wel de indruk dat je geen kritiek op Obama zou mogen hebben. Hoe kom je daar dan bij?
Dat negeer en je komt met de volgende verdachtmakingen.
Dus dat je nu doet alsof je de onwaarheden uit jouw verhalen echt wil weten is niet anders dan een wassen neus.
Leaf
En dat is toch afdoende bewijs?quote:Op woensdag 19 mei 2010 21:35 schreef VancouverFan het volgende:
[..]
Ik heb al aangetoond dat er wel degelijk mensen zijn die met Obama op de Columbia universiteit hebben gezeten.
Dat negeer en je komt met de volgende verdachtmakingen.
Dus dat je nu doet alsof je de onwaarheden uit jouw verhalen echt wil weten is niet anders dan een wassen neus.
Dit is gewoon een heksenjacht.
Hoop blabla. Waar het op neerkomt is dat de spindoctors van de neocons lekker aan het draaien zijn. Gaan we nu echt mensen die jarenlang Bush hebben gesteund geloven als ze democrats neerzetten als de meest corrupte mensen ooit (de Pelosi opmerking bv)?quote:Op woensdag 19 mei 2010 21:11 schreef mediacurator het volgende:
Kreeg een e-mail van Amerikaanse vriend die ik hier wel even wilde delen!
"*Three Cheers for Obama*
*This is so well put; I'm going to carry it around in my back pocket. It's all in a NUT Shell*
Just Facts...............................yet I'm sure those on the Left will say this is no big deal!!"
November 2008quote:Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America!
And now for something completely different, I'm on a horse.
zeker?
