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Hier een wat gedetailleerder verslag. Landis geeft aan dat Bruyneel en Armstrong hem tijdens zijn carrière hebben geïnstrueerd hoe EPO en bloedtransfusies te gebruiken zonder te worden betrapt, en dat Rihs (de baas van BMC, toen van Phonak) ermee instemde voor hem voor hetzelfde dopingprogramma te betalen dat hij bij US Postal kreeg.
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 09:34:32 #102
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WSJ and ESPN: Landis admits doping, alleges use by Armstrong, others
by Ben Delaney

* May 20, 2010

Nearly four years after he was disqualified as the winner of the 2006 Tour de France, Floyd Landis told ESPN.com Wednesday night that he doped during much of his career. According to the story, Landis detailed his “extensive, consistent use of the red blood cell booster erythropoietin (commonly known as EPO), testosterone, human growth hormone and frequent blood transfusions, along with female hormones and a one-time experiment with insulin, during the years that he rode for the U.S. Postal Service and Switzerland-based Phonak teams.”

VeloNews reached out to Landis by phone Wednesday night but did not receive a response.

Since being disqualified from the Tour victory for a positive doping test, Landis has systemically denied any guilt. His book, “Positively False: The Real Story of How I Won the Tour de France,” was published in 2007.

ESPN.com also reported that Landis confirmed that he sent a series of emails to USA Cycling CEO Steve Johnson and others detailing his drug use and that of other riders.

The ESPN.com story broke after The Wall Street Journal ran a story based on emails from Landis. The WSJ story claimed three, unnamed people verified that the emails were from Landis, but Landis himself did not respond to WSJ’s requests for comment. The WSJ story states that Landis’ emails make allegations against Lance Armstrong, George Hincapie, Levi Leipheimer and Dave Zabriskie. He also listed Johan Bruyneel and Andy Rihs as supporters of doping practices.

WSJ wrote that Landis’ charges could not be independently verified.

VeloNews attempted to contact all the named parties Wednesday night.

RadioShack press officer Philippe Maertens told VeloNews that Armstrong and Bruyneel will speak to the press tomorrow morning at the team’s bus at the start of stage 5 of the Amgen Tour of California.

Sean Weide, U.S. media director for BMC Racing, told VeloNews that the team will issue a statement later regarding the allegations made against current BMC rider Hincapie and former Phonak boss — and current BMC Bicycles owner — Andy Rihs.

Garmin-Transitions communications director Marya Pongrace said that the team will offer comment soon regarding the allegations against its rider Zabriskie, who currently leads the Amgen Tour of California.

Landis has been riding this year for the OUCH-Bahati Foundation squad. His team manager Steve Owens responded to a request for comment via text: “We have no comment as a team and Floyd is unavailable.”

RECENT HISTORY

On March 9, Landis announced that he would ride with the new team Bahati Foundation, later retitled OUCH-Bahati Foundation. The week before that announcement, an updated Web site was unveiled, with the homepage story titled “Fraud, Lies, and Corruption – See How They Convicted An Innocent Man.”

His biography page on the site at the time concluded with this statement: “Landis underwent hip resurfacing surgery … and returned to professional cycling with Team OUCH in 2009, becoming the first professional cyclist to return to top level competition with an artificial joint. After 20,000 miles of cycling last year with his new hip, Landis now looks to regain his title as World’s Greatest Cyclist and, once again, inspire the world to greater heights in ‘classic’ American style!”

At the end of last season, Team OUCH’s parent company Momentum Sports Group (MSG) and Landis agreed to terminate their two-year contract (2009-2010). At the time, OUCH released a statement saying that, “For the 2010 season, Landis expressed to MSG that he desires to ride the longer, tougher stage races offered in Europe and internationally that better suit his strengths.”


http://velonews.competito(...)strong-others_117407


Ouch.
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 09:42:16 #103
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Tja Bernard Kohl 2 of zo, had hij eerder mee moeten komen i.p.v. blijven beweren dat hij een cleane renner is.
quote:
Landis now looks to regain his title as World’s Greatest Cyclist and, once again, inspire the world to greater heights in ‘classic’ American style!”
En dat is gewoon lachwekkend natuurlijk, Landis lijkt daarmee meer op VDB of Rasmussen. De volgende die we dus terug gaan vinden met een crackpipe in een sleazy hotel.
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Verrassend


Armstrong en Bruyneel zullen wel zeggen dat er helemaal niets van klopt en dat Landis volledig de weg kwijt is.

[ Bericht 38% gewijzigd door TargaFlorio op 20-05-2010 10:49:42 ]
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 10:49:18 #105
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quote:
Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 10:43 schreef TargaFlorio het volgende:
Verrassend
Dat hij uiteindelijk toegeeft wat iedereen al weet vind ik nog wel verrassend eigenlijk.

Misschien dat ie n boek wil schrijven ofzo ...
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quote:
Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 10:43 schreef TargaFlorio het volgende:
Verrassend


Armstrong en Bruyneel zullen wel zeggen dat er helemaal niets van klopt en dat Landis volledig de weg kwijt is.
idd zeer verrassend

Misschien hebben de Fransen hem wel geld geboden om er alles aan te doen om te bewijzen dat Armstrong ook gebruikt heeft.
Sport is de belangrijkste bijzaak in het leven.
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 11:03:55 #107
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quote:
Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 10:43 schreef TargaFlorio het volgende:
Verrassend


Armstrong en Bruyneel zullen wel zeggen dat er helemaal niets van klopt en dat Landis volledig de weg kwijt is.
Of dat het nog altijd toeval is dat zowat zijn volledige team van ploegmaats die later elders gingen rijden betrapt werden terwijl ze niet eens beter reden dan bij US Postal ...
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  Moderator / Redactie Sport donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 11:09:11 #108
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Nu mag die lezingen geven en overal zijn spijt betuigen waarom het slecht voor je is . Loopt Landis binnen.
winnaar wielerprono 2007 :) Last.FM
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quote:
Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 11:09 schreef borisz het volgende:
Nu mag die lezingen geven en overal zijn spijt betuigen waarom het slecht voor je is . Loopt Landis binnen.
Alle rechtzaken die hij van LA om zijn oren zal krijgen zullen hem wel weer leegbloeden. Ik betwijfel of hij hier echt een financieel gewin aan zal hebben.
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 11:20:41 #110
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quote:
Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 11:18 schreef Ereinion het volgende:

[..]

Alle rechtzaken die hij van LA om zijn oren zal krijgen zullen hem wel weer leegbloeden. Ik betwijfel of hij hier echt een financieel gewin aan zal hebben.
Misschien krijgt hij nog van een Frans ploegje een contract om in de komende Tour Armstrong wat te gaan ambeteren met z'n aanwezigheid ... (of van Astana als ze slim zijn)
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Even de meest sappige stukken opsommen:

Bruyneel en Armstrong hebben hem geleerd hoe doping te gebruiken, en er voor te zorgen dat hij niet positief was:
quote:
n one of the emails, dated April 30 and addressed to Stephen Johnson, the president of USA Cycling, Mr. Landis said that Mr. Armstrong's longtime coach, Johan Bruyneel, introduced Mr. Landis to the use of steroid patches, blood doping and human growth hormone in 2002 and 2003, his first two years on the U.S. Postal Service team. He alleged Mr. Armstrong helped him understand the way the drugs worked. "He and I had lengthy discussions about it on our training rides during which time he also explained to me the evolution of EPO testing and how transfusions were now necessary due to the inconvenience of the new test," Mr. Landis claimed in the email. He claimed he was instructed by Mr. Bruyneel how to use synthetic EPO and steroids and how to carry out blood transfusions that doping officials wouldn't be able to detect. Mr. Bruyneel and Mr. Johnson could not be reached for comment.
Hincapie en Landis gebruikten het appartement van Armstrong om hun bloed te bewaren.
quote:
In the same email, Mr. Landis wrote that after breaking his hip in 2003, he flew to Girona, Spain—a training hub for American riders—and had two half-liter units of blood extracted from his body in three-week intervals to be used later during the Tour de France. The extraction, Mr. Landis claimed, took place in Mr. Armstrong's apartment, where blood bags belonging to Mr. Armstrong and his then-teammate George Hincapie were kept in a refrigerator in Mr. Armstrong's closet. Mr. Landis said he was asked to check the temperature of the blood daily. According to Mr. Landis, Mr. Armstrong left for a few weeks and asked Mr. Landis to make sure the electricity didn't go off and ruin the blood. George Hincapie, through a spokesman, denied the allegations.
Andy Rihs, de huidige baas van Evans, komt er ook niet goed vanaf.
quote:
In the email sent on April 30 to Mr. Johnson, Mr. Landis said that in 2006, after leaving the U.S. Postal Service team for a team sponsored by Swiss hearing aide manufacturer Phonak, he said he told Andy Rihs, the team's owner, that he had been involved in a blood doping program in the past with his old team and wanted to continue doing so with Phonak. He said Mr. Rihs, who is the chairman of Sonova Holding AG, the Switzerland-based parent company for Phonak, agreed to pay for the same doping operations at Phonak.
Over de schaamteloosheid van hun dopinggebruik:
quote:
In the letter, Landis implicates teammates, cycling officials, doctors and team leaders in what sounds like an astonishingly shameless culture of drug use. One example comes from 2004, when Landis said a team bus left the finish line, headed for the hotel, and stopped over on the way for blood transfusions to boost the riders' oxygen capacity.

"The driver pretended to have engine trouble and stopped on a remote mountain road for an hour or so so the entire team could have half a liter of blood added
," Landis wrote. "This was the only time that I ever saw the entire team being transfused in plain view of all the other riders and bus driver."
Blijkbaar komt er nog meer:
quote:
"There are many many more details that I have in diaries and am in the process of writing into an intelligible story," Landis wrote in an e-mail addressed principally to USA Cycling chief executive Steven Johnson.
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 11:39:20 #112
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ik verbaas me altijd hoeveel mensen roepen dat die en die doping gebruiken. In deze tijd is het zo makkelijk om daar een foto of video van te maken.
Kein gewalt! Wir sind das volk!
Steps taken forwards but sleepwalking back again.
''And the Germans kill the Jews, And the Jews kill the Arabs, And the Arabs kill the hostages
And that is the news.''
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 11:54:36 #113
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Apart dat het dynamische duo Armstrong/Bruyneel nu plots geen razendsnelle twitter-mening heeft.
The average burglar breaks in and leaves clues everywhere. But not me. I'm completely clueless.
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 11:55:09 #114
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Het is nog vroeg in de USA, SOK.
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Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 11:54 schreef SaintOfKillers het volgende:
Apart dat het dynamische duo Armstrong/Bruyneel nu plots geen razendsnelle twitter-mening heeft.
Zou Vino al getwitterd hebben hoeveel lol hij hieraan beleeft?
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Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 11:39 schreef One_of_the_few het volgende:
ik verbaas me altijd hoeveel mensen roepen dat die en die doping gebruiken. In deze tijd is het zo makkelijk om daar een foto of video van te maken.
Als je zelf ook gebruikt is dat niet handig natuurlijk. Anderen beschuldig je pas als je zelf hangt. Niet netjes maar voor een eerlijke sport kennelijk noodzakelijk.
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 12:25:56 #117
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Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 12:27:30 #118
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Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 11:33 schreef Ereinion het volgende:
Even de meest sappige stukken opsommen:


One example comes from 2004, when Landis said a team bus left the finish line, headed for the hotel, and stopped over on the way for blood transfusions to boost the riders' oxygen capacity.

"The driver pretended to have engine trouble and stopped on a remote mountain road for an hour or so so the entire team could have half a liter of blood added," Landis wrote. "This was the only time that I ever saw the entire team being transfused in plain view of all the other riders and bus driver."

Moest er nog bijkomen dat dat de normale gang van zaken was.
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Volgens iemand op het cyclingnews.com forum is dit de hele brief. Dat beantwoord ook de vraag of het boek van Landis door een ghostwriter is geschreven
quote:
2002: I was instructed on how to use Testosterone patches by Johan Bruyneel
during the During the Dauphine Libere in June, after which I flew on a
helicopter with Mr Armstrong from the finish, I believe Grenoble, to San
Mauritz Switzerland at which point I was personally handed a box of 2.5 mg
patches in front of his wife who witnessed the exchange. About a week
later, Dr Ferrari performed an extraction of half a liter of blood to be
transfused back into me during the Tour de France. Mr Armstrong was not
witness to the extraction but he and I had lengthy discussions about it on
our training rides during which time he also explained to me the evolution
of EPO testing and how transfusions were now necessary due to the
inconvenience of the new test. He also divulged to me at that time that in
the first year that the EPO test was used he had been told by Mr Ferrari,
who had access to the new test, that he should not use EPO anymore but he
did not believe Mr Farrari and contin
ued to use it. He later, while winning the Tour de Swiss, the month before
the Tour de France, tested positive for EPO at which point he and Mr
Bruyneel flew to the UCI headquarters and made a financial agreement with
Mr. Vrubrugen to keep the positive test hidden.


2003: After a broken hip in the winter, I flew to Gerona Spain where this
time two units (half a liter each) were extracted three weeks apart. This
took place in the apartment in which Mr. Armstrong lived and in which I was
asked to stay and check the blood temperature every day. It was kept in a
small refrigerator in the closet allong with the blood of Mr Armstrong and
George Hincapie and since Mr. Armstrong was planning on being gone for a few
weeks to train he asked me to stay in his place and make sure the
electricity didn't turn off or something go wrong with the referigerator.
Then during the Tour de France the entire team, on two different occasions
went to the room that we were told and the doctor met us there to do the
transfusions. During that Tour de France I personally witnessed George
Hincapie, Lance Armstrong, Chechu Rubiera, and myself receiving blood
transfusions.
Also during that Tour de France the team doctor would give my
room mate, George Hincapie an
d I a small syringe of olive oil in which was disolved andriol, a form of
ingestible testosterone on two out of three nights throughout the duration.

I was asked to ride the Vuelta a Espana that year in support of Roberto
Heras and in August, between the Tour and the Vuelta, was told to take EPO
to raise my hematocrit back up so more blood transfusions could be
performed. I was instructed to go to Lances place by Johan Bruyneel and get
some EPO from him. The first EPO I ever used was then handed to me in the
entry way to his building in full view of his then wife. It was Eprex by
brand and it came in six pre measured syringes. I used it intravenously for
several weeks before the next blood draw and had no problems with the tests
during the Vuelta. Also during this time it was explained to me how to use
Human Growth Hormone by Johan Bruyneel and I bought what I needed from Pepe
the team "trainer" who lived in Valencia along with the team doctor at that
time. While training for that Vuelta I spent a good deal of time training
with Matthew White and Michael Barry and shared the testosterone and EPO
that we had and discu
ssed the use thereof while training.


Again, during the Vuelta we were given Andriol and blood transfusions by the
team doctor and had no problems with any testing.

2004: Again the team performed two seperate blood transfusions on me, but
this time Bruyneel had become more paranoid and we did the draws by flying
to Belgium and meeting at an unknown persons appartment and the blood was
brought by "Duffy" who was at that time Johans assistant of sorts. The
second of which was performed on the team bus on the ride from the finish of
a stage to the hotel during which the driver pretended to have engine
trouble and stopped on a remote mountain road for an hour or so so the
entire team could have half a liter of blood added. This was the only time
that I ever saw the entire team being transfused in plain view of all the
other riders and bus driver. That team included Lance Armstrong, George
Hincapie and I as the only Americans.

2005: I had learned at this point how to do most of the transfusion
technicals and other things on my own so I hired Allen Lim as my assistant
to help with details and logistics. He helped Levi Leipheimer and I prepare
the transfusions for Levi and I and made sure they were kept at the proper
temperature.
We both did two seperate transfusions that Tour however my
hematocrit was too low at the start so I did my first one a few days before
the start so as to not start with a deficit.

2006: Well you get the idea....... One thing of great signigicance is that
I sat down with Andy Riis and explained to him what was done in the past and
what was the risk I would be taking and ask for his permission which he
granted in the form of funds to complete the operation described. John
Lelangue was also informed by me and Andy Riis consulted with Jim Ochowitz
before agreeing.


There are many many more details that I have in diaries and am in the
process of writing into an intelligible story but since the position of USA
Cycling is that there have not been enough details shared to justify calling
USADA, I am writing as many as I can reasonably put into an email and share
with you so as to ascertain what is the process which USA Cycling uses to
proceed with such allegations.

Look forward to much more detail as soon as you can demonstrate that you can
be trusted to do the right thing.

Floyd Landis
Iedereen die nu genoemd wordt:

Team RadioShack
Johan Brunyeel (Owner/Manager)
Viatcheslav Ekimov (DS)
Allen Lim (Physiologist/"Trainer")
Lance Armstrong
Levi Leipheimer
Jose Luis Rubiera

Garmin-Transitions
Matthew White (DS)
Dave Zabriske

BMC Racing Team
Andy Rihs (Owner)
Jim Ochowicz (Owner)
John LeLangue (DS) (Mr. Clean )
George Hincapie

Sky Professional Racing Team
Michael Barry
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 12:36:14 #120
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Mr Vrubrugen Landis is een zoon van Mart?
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Waar kan ik het geld van het boek terugkrijgen, gaat Peter Rudolf de Vries hier ook een uitzending over maken? De inhoud is ineens fictie...
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Skil Shimano en Vacansoleil kunnen zich beter maar alvast voorbereiden op de Tour
  donderdag 20 mei 2010 @ 12:50:26 #123
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quote:
Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 12:42 schreef alpeko het volgende:
Skil Shimano en Vacansoleil kunnen zich beter maar alvast voorbereiden op de Tour
Want?
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.
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quote:
Op donderdag 20 mei 2010 12:42 schreef alpeko het volgende:
Skil Shimano en Vacansoleil kunnen zich beter maar alvast voorbereiden op de Tour
Welk middel kun je daarbij aanraden? ;-)
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