Israel vs Palestijnen #60 - Met moordenaars en helden

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Op woensdag 23 september 2009 20:03 schreef Meki het volgende:

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Ik begrijp dat je graag dat je geen kennis erover hebt, en als een papegaai vele Israelische media napraat.

Maar diegenen die de ziekenhuizen als een testfase zien voor moordmachines is toch Israel.

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"Palestinism", the real UN disease
Il Giornale, 17 september 2009

The report by the Goldstone Commission sponsored by the U.N. is a danger for all of us; it is a written document stating that it is necessary to give up the fight against systematic terrorism that hits and uses civilians. A quick look at the 575 pages of the report designed to establish what happened in Gaza in the 2008-2009 war: it is clear that the Commission set up by the United Nations during the ninth special session of the Human Rights Council in January 2009 has is not at all interested in truth, but only in still another criminalization of Israel: the U.N. embodies once again an example of moralistic Palestinism that exploits the guilty feelings of the contemporary world to delegitimize the West. And it practically aims to the physical and institutional death of the Jewish State.
Every year, the U.N. devotes two thirds of its resolutions on human rights to condemn Israel; its Assembly has already echoed the anti-semitic speeches by President Ahmadinejad, and now it is going on with a whipping version by Judge Goldstone, indeed a Jew with a daughter who lives in Israel.

Let us proceed step by step. Israel attacked only because it was cornered by thirteen thousand missiles that have fallen on its territory since the year 2000. It asked so many times the U.N. to stop Hamas after completely withdrawing from Gaza. But this terrorist organization aims at destroying all (all) Jewish people in the world and it is financed by Iran: in fact it went on pursuing its task. Israel’s appeals to the U.N. were received by a yawn similar to the one by Goldstone’s in front of the Sderot citizen Noam Bedein, when he went to the meeting of the Commission to testify on the suffering of people from his Country.

Secondly, the report consistently refers to international law – whose lies will be mentioned later – and does not speak about Hamas’ crimes. In fact it does not link the war with the repeated bombing of Israel. Only Israel is to blame and so it was right from the start, so much so that even anti-Israel people like the UN Commissioner Mary Robinson, the organizer of the Durban conference of 2001, refused to participate in the Committee, by considering it “not balanced”. It is evident instead that the main violators of the Geneva Convention are those who fight by shooting civilians, by strategically using their women and children as human shields and by dressing their fighters as civilians. Hamas, in this case.

And so Goldstone does not answer the question by the contemporary world on how to fight beyond the Geneva convention in situations, for example, such as the ones described by Lorenzo Cremonesi in the Corriere: terrorized people who were obliged to protect Hamas men because they were kept prisoners as human shields in their homes, in schools, hospital, ambulances… Goldstone condemns Israel for having fought in a situation of great difficulty where its civilians were at stake. He forgets that the Hamas headquarters was located in the basement of the Shiba Hospital and that Israel has not touched it although it was used by the worst terrorists in the world in a cynical way.

Where did Goldstone obtain his information, since he accuses Israel to have voluntarily hit civilians and claimed around 1200, 1400 deaths? Can this information be verified? The answer is that the report is full of conscious lies. The Commission was already set up by people like the Law Professor Christine Chinkin, who before the survey had “categorically rejected” Israel’s right to self defense and who had already called Israel “aggressor and perpetrator of war crimes”.

As a study by Gerald Steinberg's NGO-Monitor points out, if we closely look at the sources consulted, we find that many cannot be identified. The others are simply the most politicized anti-Israeli NGO’s: Betzelem and the Palestinian Center for Human Rights. They are mentioned 70 times, the Palestinian organization Al Haq 30 times and so on. The assumption that civilian places and people were intentionally hit is fraught with factual mistakes: Abdullah Abdel Hamid Muamar, 22 years of age, who was killed, was defined by the Palestinian Center “a student” and therefore a civilian. Also Human Rights Watch, another favorite source, defines him as an innocent victim. But according to a publication by the Al Qassam Brigades, Muamar was member of Hamas. He appears on an Arab website while holding a Qassam missile. According to a survey by the Israeli army, 564 victims were armed members of Hamas, 100 belonged to the Islamic Jihads. The members of Fatah, who were present, were not counted. The policemen of the Hamas regime, identified as civilians, accounted for 84% of the Hamas security mechanism; among them, Muhammad el Dasuqi, a member of the Resistance Committee, was probably one of the terrorists who attacked an American Embassy convoy in 2003. The attack against the U.N. school in the Jabaliya refugee camp was initially indicated as a massacre, while later this was denied: also according to some local sources, the school was not hit. The army shot against an adjacent facility sheltering Hamas militants.

These examples show that Goldstone has accepted the notion that those who do not wear a military uniform, are victims. And this does not work. In general, according to the data reported by the journalist Ben Dror Yemini, the Interdisciplinary Center of Herzliya states that around 63%-75% of the victims were killed because they were involved in the war: about 900 people and unfortunately the civilians used as human shields have to be added to them. Hamas is indeed the true responsible for war crimes.

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Op zondag 20 september 2009 18:06 schreef Disana het volgende:
Wat een hatelijk stukje. Dat geld komt de bevolking echt wel ten goede en ze hebben het hard nodig.

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 16:47 schreef badwurm het volgende:

גלעד מדבר מהשבי || Gilad Shalit is talking from the captivity

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 17:37 schreef telavivnick het volgende:

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20 gevangenen voor een minuut video, het eerste echte levensteken in 3 jaar. Een gevangene voor 3 seconden van video van een soldaat die gekidnapd werd vanuit Israel zelf.Een "echte" partner voor vrede, die Hamas .en dan zijn er nog mensen die de hamas steunen .

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 18:48 schreef vijfhonderd het volgende:

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Een ''echte'' partner voor vrede, dat Israël, dat pertinent duizenden Palestijnen vasthoudt. Vaak zonder enige rechtsbasis.

Maar dat telt zeker niet in jouw ogen? Je moet het wel evenwichtig blijven bekijken.

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 20:11 schreef Whiskey_Tango het volgende:
Ik vind het ook schandelijk, net het journaal gezien en dan staan er weer wat van die Palestijnen op de straten in de Gaza strook "dank Allah voor m'n vrijheid!" te krijsen. Het enige waaraan ze dit te danken hebben is de chantage en de ontvoering van een Israëliër namens Hamas.

Dank Allah m'n reet

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 18:48 schreef vijfhonderd het volgende:

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Een ''echte'' partner voor vrede, dat Israël, dat pertinent duizenden Palestijnen vasthoudt. Vaak zonder enige rechtsbasis.

Maar dat telt zeker niet in jouw ogen? Je moet het wel evenwichtig blijven bekijken.

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 20:27 schreef telavivnick het volgende:

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zo dit is volgens jou een peace partner ?

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3784685,00.html

sorry maar ik vind het niet zo , en met mij gelukkig meerderen eh 90 % van israel .

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 21:50 schreef vijfhonderd het volgende:

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En met mij 90% van Palestina en de rest van de bevolking van de Arabische landen.
Je schiet niks op met je houding zo.

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 21:50 schreef vijfhonderd het volgende:

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En met mij 90% van Palestina en de rest van de bevolking van de Arabische landen.
Je schiet niks op met je houding zo.

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Op vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 23:41 schreef Karrs het volgende:

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Wat voor houding moeten ze nemen dan? Vertel dat nou eens, welke houding kan op goedkeuring rekenen?

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Op zaterdag 3 oktober 2009 12:44 schreef Roi het volgende:

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Israel kan zich niet vredelievend opstellen als iedereen om haar heen het doel heeft om haar te vernietigen.