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Het forum voor 's werelds enige universele hobby! Snaren of toetsen, vinyl of cd, eendagsvlieg of rasartiest, op de radio of op een festival! Hier kun je al je ongebreideld enthousiasme, maar ook je weldoordachte kritische noten kwijt over muziek
Het zal eens niet zo zijn..quote:Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 20:47 schreef DrDentz het volgende:
Ik maakte maar een grapje, eigenlijk heb ik zijn originele reactie nooit gelezen.
Het zal wel jongens, I don't care anyway.
Alles is relatief
Ik dacht echt: "dude wtf.."
"Meteen meer maat meloen komt naar mij toe lopen en zegt: kijk uit ik heb een hartslag! Ik zeg: nah ja, ga dan maar mee naar huis, heb toch niets te doen"
Ik dacht echt: "dude wtf.."
"Meteen meer maat meloen komt naar mij toe lopen en zegt: kijk uit ik heb een hartslag! Ik zeg: nah ja, ga dan maar mee naar huis, heb toch niets te doen"
Nee, ze nemen een nieuwe reeks op, waaronder met Latoya dus.quote:Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 20:49 schreef DrDentz het volgende:
Maar dat Ushi en Van Dijk zijn dat dan beelden van zo'n 10 jaar geleden?
Alles is relatief
Ik dacht echt: "dude wtf.."
"Meteen meer maat meloen komt naar mij toe lopen en zegt: kijk uit ik heb een hartslag! Ik zeg: nah ja, ga dan maar mee naar huis, heb toch niets te doen"
Ik dacht echt: "dude wtf.."
"Meteen meer maat meloen komt naar mij toe lopen en zegt: kijk uit ik heb een hartslag! Ik zeg: nah ja, ga dan maar mee naar huis, heb toch niets te doen"
Euh...peace. Dentz, olie op het vuur gooien maakt dingen soms erger dan ze waren, dat zie je wel weer. Niet tof.
Hebben jullie dit gelezen?
Doctor administered drug, then left Jackson alone, sources say
Conrad Murray is said to have made cellphone calls after the star was given the powerful anesthetic propofol.
Michael Jackson
Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's physician, has been identified as a suspect in a manslaughter probe. (AFP / Getty Images)
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Michael Jackson's personal physician left the performer alone and under the influence of a powerful anesthetic to make telephone calls the morning the pop singer died, according to three people familiar with the investigation.
By the time the doctor had returned, Jackson had stopped breathing, the sources said.
Dr. Conrad Murray, identified in court records as a suspect in a police manslaughter investigation, legally acquired the operating room drug propofol from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as a treatment for insomnia, said the sources, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the investigation was ongoing.
Murray acknowledged obtaining and administering the medication in an interview with Los Angeles police detectives two days after Jackson's death, the sources said.
He reportedly told them that the singer had returned to his rented Holmby Hills mansion early on June 25 exhausted from a lengthy concert rehearsal and was unable to sleep.
Jackson had been using propofol as a sleep aid on and off for a decade, according to one law enforcement source. Murray told investigators that he had given Jackson multiple doses of the drug since taking a $150,000-a-month job as his doctor in May, the sources said. The 51-year-old cardiologist told detectives that since there had never been a problem in the past, he felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone while he made calls on his mobile phone, the sources said.
It's unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson's bedroom. When he returned, the 50-year-old pop star was not breathing. Murray performed CPR, and another person called 911. Paramedics arrived and rushed Jackson to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m.
Murray has maintained that he did nothing wrong. His attorney, Edward Chernoff, has repeatedly declined to say whether his client gave Jackson propofol. Asked this week about the version of events outlined by sources, the lawyer said, "I'm not going to dispute the police officers' claims in that regard. They were there at the interview, and Dr. Murray did not lie to them. But they are not telling the whole story."
Chernoff confirmed that the doctor had spent time on the phone talking to family members and employees in his medical offices before he discovered Jackson stricken in his bedroom.
Investigators have focused on whether Murray's use of propofol outside the hospital setting and his decision to leave Jackson alone amounted to a level of negligence required for an involuntary manslaughter charge. The Los Angeles County coroner's office has already concluded its investigation into Jackson's death but has not released its findings at the request of the Los Angeles Police Department.
Evidence developed over the course of the investigation suggests the propofol admission alone may not be enough to charge Murray with manslaughter. Other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson's system along with propofol. The law enforcement source said the presence of the other drugs could complicate any prosecution.
The other drugs may have amplified the effects of the anesthetic and depressed Jackson's breathing, sources said. Another factor is Jackson's history of drug addiction, and his prior use of propofol particularly.
In an interview Wednesday, Chernoff suggested that Murray had not realized what he was getting into when he agreed to become Jackson's doctor.
"When he accepted the job, he was not aware of any specific requirements regarding medications that Michael Jackson was taking or any addictions that he was suffering from," Chernoff said. But after relocating to L.A., Murray "realized that Michael Jackson had some very unusual problems," the lawyer said.
He criticized what he called selective leaks by investigators and said they had rushed to portray Murray as guilty and the anesthetic as the cause of Jackson's death.
"From the beginning, they leaked that propofol killed him. It has appeared the investigation was designed to support a conclusion they already made with regard to Dr. Murray," the attorney said.
He said it was evident that investigators thought drugs other than propofol played a role in Jackson's death based on their searches of Murray's properties in Las Vegas and Houston. Investigators were looking for evidence that he prescribed the other medications for Jackson, Chernoff said.
"I have no doubt they came up completely empty in that regard," he said.
Murray is one of at least five doctors whose conduct is being examined by the LAPD and the Drug Enforcement Administration in connection with Jackson. Although several physicians have had records subpoenaed by the coroner's office, Murray has been the only one publicly identified as a suspect.
Bron LA Times
Zoiets moet het wel zijn...de hufter.
Hebben jullie dit gelezen?
Doctor administered drug, then left Jackson alone, sources say
Conrad Murray is said to have made cellphone calls after the star was given the powerful anesthetic propofol.
Michael Jackson
Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's physician, has been identified as a suspect in a manslaughter probe. (AFP / Getty Images)
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Sony Pictures to produce Michael Jackson film
By Harriet Ryan, Richard Winton and Andrew Blankstein
August 14, 2009
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Michael Jackson's personal physician left the performer alone and under the influence of a powerful anesthetic to make telephone calls the morning the pop singer died, according to three people familiar with the investigation.
By the time the doctor had returned, Jackson had stopped breathing, the sources said.
Dr. Conrad Murray, identified in court records as a suspect in a police manslaughter investigation, legally acquired the operating room drug propofol from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as a treatment for insomnia, said the sources, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the investigation was ongoing.
Murray acknowledged obtaining and administering the medication in an interview with Los Angeles police detectives two days after Jackson's death, the sources said.
He reportedly told them that the singer had returned to his rented Holmby Hills mansion early on June 25 exhausted from a lengthy concert rehearsal and was unable to sleep.
Jackson had been using propofol as a sleep aid on and off for a decade, according to one law enforcement source. Murray told investigators that he had given Jackson multiple doses of the drug since taking a $150,000-a-month job as his doctor in May, the sources said. The 51-year-old cardiologist told detectives that since there had never been a problem in the past, he felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone while he made calls on his mobile phone, the sources said.
It's unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson's bedroom. When he returned, the 50-year-old pop star was not breathing. Murray performed CPR, and another person called 911. Paramedics arrived and rushed Jackson to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m.
Murray has maintained that he did nothing wrong. His attorney, Edward Chernoff, has repeatedly declined to say whether his client gave Jackson propofol. Asked this week about the version of events outlined by sources, the lawyer said, "I'm not going to dispute the police officers' claims in that regard. They were there at the interview, and Dr. Murray did not lie to them. But they are not telling the whole story."
Chernoff confirmed that the doctor had spent time on the phone talking to family members and employees in his medical offices before he discovered Jackson stricken in his bedroom.
Investigators have focused on whether Murray's use of propofol outside the hospital setting and his decision to leave Jackson alone amounted to a level of negligence required for an involuntary manslaughter charge. The Los Angeles County coroner's office has already concluded its investigation into Jackson's death but has not released its findings at the request of the Los Angeles Police Department.
Evidence developed over the course of the investigation suggests the propofol admission alone may not be enough to charge Murray with manslaughter. Other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson's system along with propofol. The law enforcement source said the presence of the other drugs could complicate any prosecution.
The other drugs may have amplified the effects of the anesthetic and depressed Jackson's breathing, sources said. Another factor is Jackson's history of drug addiction, and his prior use of propofol particularly.
In an interview Wednesday, Chernoff suggested that Murray had not realized what he was getting into when he agreed to become Jackson's doctor.
"When he accepted the job, he was not aware of any specific requirements regarding medications that Michael Jackson was taking or any addictions that he was suffering from," Chernoff said. But after relocating to L.A., Murray "realized that Michael Jackson had some very unusual problems," the lawyer said.
He criticized what he called selective leaks by investigators and said they had rushed to portray Murray as guilty and the anesthetic as the cause of Jackson's death.
"From the beginning, they leaked that propofol killed him. It has appeared the investigation was designed to support a conclusion they already made with regard to Dr. Murray," the attorney said.
He said it was evident that investigators thought drugs other than propofol played a role in Jackson's death based on their searches of Murray's properties in Las Vegas and Houston. Investigators were looking for evidence that he prescribed the other medications for Jackson, Chernoff said.
"I have no doubt they came up completely empty in that regard," he said.
Murray is one of at least five doctors whose conduct is being examined by the LAPD and the Drug Enforcement Administration in connection with Jackson. Although several physicians have had records subpoenaed by the coroner's office, Murray has been the only one publicly identified as a suspect.
Bron LA Times
Zoiets moet het wel zijn...de hufter.
Waiting for This is it!
Jacko had natuurlijk ook gewoon naar een shrink kunnen gaan, ipv naar slaapmiddelen vragen 
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Zal hij ook wel gedaan hebben...althans waren ook al berichten over.quote:Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 21:26 schreef matthijst het volgende:
Jacko had natuurlijk ook gewoon naar een shrink kunnen gaan, ipv naar slaapmiddelen vragen
Wat ik begrepen heb is dat hij eerst met slaapmiddelen begonnen is, dat dat niet meer hielp, tig xanax per nacht ook niet, en toen moet ie in wanhoop geschoten zijn.
Het extreme leven van MJ...met een extreem einde.
Waiting for This is it!
Ach ja, misschien was het zonder dood wel dramatischer geweest: gefaalde concertreeks, want niet fit genoeg, afgebrand in de pers, bankroet na contractbreuk, afkickklinkiek, kinderen uit huis geplaatst..
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Mee eens. Beide klote opties dus.
However. Murray zat fout, met zijn nalatigheid. Zoiets moet het toch wel zijn?
However. Murray zat fout, met zijn nalatigheid. Zoiets moet het toch wel zijn?
Waiting for This is it!
Zonder die concertreeks had hij misschien wel normaal kunnen slapen, dan had ook alles er anders uitgezien natuurlijk.
Hoe goed bedoeld het ook was van Michael, maar als hij niet zoveel geld had weggegeven aan al die goede doelen, dan had hij ook die concertreeks niet hoeven doen omdat hij dan niet zoveel schulden zou hebben.
Ach ja, zo kunnen we nog wel blijven door redeneren.
Hoe goed bedoeld het ook was van Michael, maar als hij niet zoveel geld had weggegeven aan al die goede doelen, dan had hij ook die concertreeks niet hoeven doen omdat hij dan niet zoveel schulden zou hebben.
Ach ja, zo kunnen we nog wel blijven door redeneren.
150.000 dollar p.m. verdienen en dan zo nalatig zijn. Hij verdient een hele zware straf!quote:Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 22:15 schreef Robijn1961 het volgende:
Mee eens. Beide klote opties dus.
However. Murray zat fout, met zijn nalatigheid. Zoiets moet het toch wel zijn?
quote:Hoe goed bedoeld het ook was van Michael, maar als hij niet zoveel geld had weggegeven aan al die goede doelen, dan had hij ook die concertreeks niet hoeven doen omdat hij dan niet zoveel schulden zou hebben.
Of hij had niet elk antiekstuk moeten willen kopen.
Z'n uitgavenpatroon was te belachelijk voor woorden. Dat hij ooit in de schulden heeft kunnen komen..
Die goede doelen zal allemaal wel. Als ik morgen duizend goede doelen een euro doneer ben ik dan de grote goede-doelen-pimp?
Denk niet dat ie daardoor zoveel schulden had
Denk niet dat ie daardoor zoveel schulden had
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
2006?quote:Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 22:25 schreef Robijn1961 het volgende:
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Ben ik ook wel achter. Hij kon echt niet, niet niet niet met geld omgaan. Heeft ie ook nooit geleerd, denk ik.quote:Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 22:26 schreef Rnnz het volgende:
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Of hij had niet elk antiekstuk moeten willen kopen.
Z'n uitgavenpatroon was te belachelijk voor woorden. Dat hij ooit in de schulden heeft kunnen komen..
Waiting for This is it!
Sja, zag ik, zij maken ervan dat het het laatste interview was.quote:
Ik had deze echter nog nooit gezien, en dacht: misschien jullie ook niet.
Waiting for This is it!
Jawel, in 2006 
quote:Op vrijdag 20 oktober 2006 14:05 schreef DrDentz het volgende:
Bekijk deze YouTube-video
Access Hollywood interview
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Dit is natuurlijk bs en dat weet je ook best wel. Don't blaspheme Michaels charity, kijk uit he.quote:Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 22:27 schreef matthijst het volgende:
Die goede doelen zal allemaal wel. Als ik morgen duizend goede doelen een euro doneer ben ik dan de grote goede-doelen-pimp?
Denk niet dat ie daardoor zoveel schulden had
And when you think of trust
Does it lead you home?
To a place that you only dream of
When you're all alone
Does it lead you home?
To a place that you only dream of
When you're all alone
Dat valt allemaal reuze mee. Jullie moeten niet alles geloven wat er in die stomme tabloids staat.quote:Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 22:30 schreef Robijn1961 het volgende:
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Ben ik ook wel achter. Hij kon echt niet, niet niet niet met geld omgaan. Heeft ie ook nooit geleerd, denk ik.
And when you think of trust
Does it lead you home?
To a place that you only dream of
When you're all alone
Does it lead you home?
To a place that you only dream of
When you're all alone
Hij deed zeker wel aan goede doelen, maar is er echt niet failliet aan gegaan, dat was het punt.
En: 600.000.000 bezittingen, 400.000.000 schuld. Hoe je het wendt of keert: dan kan je niet met geld omgaan.
NB: die 400.000.000 was een paar jaar terug nog 300.000.000
En: 600.000.000 bezittingen, 400.000.000 schuld. Hoe je het wendt of keert: dan kan je niet met geld omgaan.
NB: die 400.000.000 was een paar jaar terug nog 300.000.000
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Als je een huis van 6 ton hebt en een hypotheek van 4 ton, zeg je toch ook niet dat je diep in de schulden zit?
And when you think of trust
Does it lead you home?
To a place that you only dream of
When you're all alone
Does it lead you home?
To a place that you only dream of
When you're all alone
