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Myth No. 1: Vaccines are safe
Under the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Reporting System) was established. Annually, it reports about 11,000 serious vaccine reactions, including up to 200 deaths and many more permanent disabilities.
Far more alarming is the following;
– the FDA estimates that only 1% of serious adverse reactions are reported;
– CDC says it’s 10%;
– medical school students testified before Congress that they’re told not to report these incidents;
– according to the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), only one in 40 New York doctors reported adverse vaccine reactions or deaths;
– international studies show vaccines cause up to 10,000 US SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) deaths annually, and at least half of them are from vaccines;
– another study determined that 3000 US children die annually from vaccines;
– poor reporting in America suggests that annual adverse vaccine reactions, in fact, number from 100,000 – one million;
– since 1988, the government’s National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP) paid families of affected children $1.2 billion in damages;
– as authorized by the 2006 Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act, HHS Secretary Sebelius, granted drug companies legal immunity (except for impossible to prove willful misconduct) to proliferate dangerous, untested Swine Flu vaccines globally;
– vaccines are legally mandated in all 50 US states, though legally avoidable in most (under normal circumstances) as explained below;
– in settling vaccine damage suits, drug companies impose gag orders to keep vital information from the public; and
– insurers refuse to cover adverse vaccine reactions because of the high potential liability they’d face.
Truth No. 1
Vaccinations cause high numbers of severe reactions, permanent disabilities, and deaths as well as an enormous personal and public cost. Virtually none of this gets reported.
Myth No. 2: Vaccines are very effective
Medical literature documents significant numbers of vaccine failures for measles, mumps, small pox, pertussis, polio and Hib-causing bacterial meningitis and pneumonia. In 1989, Oman experienced a widespread polio outbreak six months after completing a population-wide immunization program. In Kansas (in 1986), 90% of 1300 reported pertussis cases were “adequately vaccinated,” and 72% of Chicago pertussis incidents in 1993 had been as well.
Truth No. 2
Evidence shows that vaccinations are an unreliable and dangerous way to prevent illness and disease.
Myth No. 3: Low US disease rates are attributable to vaccines
From 1850 – 1940, well before mandatory vaccination programs, the British Association for the Advancement of Science reported a 90% decrease in childhood diseases due to improved sanitation and hygiene practices. By 1945, US medical authorities noted a 95% drop in deaths from the leading childhood infectious diseases (diphtheria, pertussis, scarlet fever and measles), well before mass-immunizations began.
A recent WHO report found that third world disease and mortality rates had no direct correlation with immunization programs, but closely relate to hygiene and diet standards.
Truth No. 3
No evidence links vaccines with infectious disease declines. Proper hygiene and diet practices may be far more effective.
Myth No. 4: Sound immunization theory and practice prove the effectiveness of vaccines
Although vaccines stimulate antibody production, no evidence suggests that alone assures immunity. A 1950 British Medical Council-published study found no relationship between antibody count and disease incidence. Natural immunization involves many bodily organs and systems. Artificially producing antibodies can’t achieve it.
Research also shows how squalene adjuvants harm the human immune system, making it susceptible to numerous illnesses and diseases ranging from very annoying to life threatening. In addition, the “herd immunity” notion of mass-immunizations effectiveness is largely discredited. Just the opposite is true as evidence shows that fully vaccinated populations have experienced epidemics numerous times in the past.
Further, vaccine effectiveness “remains scientifically unproven” because no double blind studies have been conducted to do it. Significantly, recent disease outbreaks have affected more vaccinated children than unvaccinated ones. And the common practice of “one size fits all” is troublesome. It lets tiny new-borns get the same dosage as a five year old. It tolerates dubious quality control practices producing what’s known as “Hot Lots” – ones associated with disproportionately high death and disability rates.
Shockingly, the FDA refuses to act preventatively against them. In fact, individual vaccine lots have almost never been recalled even when associated with severe adverse reactions. Instead, they’re administered under the assumption that all recipients respond the same, regardless of race, ethnicity, genetic makeup, or other characteristics.
A recent New England Journal of Medicine-reported study found that a significant number of Romanian children receiving polio vaccine contracted the disease. Evidence linked antibiotic injections to it. One innoculation raised the polio risk eight-fold; two – nine shots, 27-fold, and 10 or more 182-fold.
New research may reveal other unknown hazards, but public safety won’t be addressed until government health officials act responsibly, report accurately, and adequately protect their populations from vaccines they never should allow.
Truth No. 4
Many supposed vaccine truths have, in fact, been proved false.
Myth No. 5: Childhood diseases are extremely dangerous
False. Even CDC data show a 99.8% pertussis recovery rate during the 1992-94 period. One Cincinnati Children’s Hospital infectious diseases expert said at the time: “The disease was very mild, no one died, and no one went to the intensive care unit.”
Nearly always, childhood infectious diseases “are benign and self-limiting. They usually impart lifelong immunity, whereas vaccine-induced immunization (when achieved) is only temporary.” In fact, it can increase vulnerability later on by postponing better tolerated childhood illnesses until adulthood when death rates (though still low) are far higher.
Most important is that nearly all common infectious diseases are rarely dangerous, and, in fact, can develop strong, healthy adult immune systems when they’re most needed. In addition, few people know that children who didn’t contract measles have a higher incidence of skin diseases, degenerative bone and cartilage ones, and tumors while ovarian cancer is higher among mumps-free adult women. The human immune system benefits from common childhood infectious diseases. Freedom from them may be harmful later on.
Truth No. 5
Childhood disease dangers are greatly exaggerated to scare parents into getting their children vaccinated with unsafe drugs.
Myth No. 6: Polio vaccinations were very successful
False again. In 1955, when the Salk vaccine was introduced, polio was considered the most serious post-war public health problem. A year later, six New England states reported sharp rises ranging from more than double in Vermont to a 642% increase in Massachusetts. Other states also were badly impacted enough for Idaho and Utah to halt immunizations due to increased incidence and death rates.
In his 1962 congressional testimony, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, Biostatistics Department head at the University of North Carolina, reported sharp polio increases from 1957 to 1959 and a Public Health Service whitewash that suppressed it. In 1985, the CDC reported that 87% of US cases between 1973 and 1983 were caused by the vaccine. Later it added that it caused nearly all imported cases, and most of the victims were fully vaccinated.
Further, misdiagnosing, poor reporting, and cover-ups suggest that the actual number of vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) cases “may be 10 to 100 times higher than that cited by the CDC.”
In 1977, even Jonas Salk admitted that mass inoculations caused most polio cases since 1961.
Truth No. 6
The Salk vaccine proved highly dangerous. Information about it was suppressed, and declines in the disease were well underway when mass-immunizations were begun. In Europe, they occurred in countries that used, then rejected the vaccine proving it was never needed in the first place. Showing also that the same is true for other diseases, including Swine Flu with the WHO and CDC admitting that most cases are mild, unthreatening, and generally pass without treatment, let alone risking dangerous unneeded vaccines.
Myth No. 7: Lack of an initial adverse reaction proves vaccines are safe
Documented long-term health problems include arthritis, chronic headaches, rashes indicative of disease, non-healing skin lesions, seizures, autism, anemia, multiple sclerosis, ALS, cancer, and many others. Ingredients common to all vaccines are at issue. Squalene adjuvants are a biological time bomb that can harm or destroy the human immune system.
Other ingredients are known toxicants and carcinogens, including thimersol (a mercury derivative), aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol, and numerous gastrointestnal toxicants like liver toxicants, cardiovascular and blood toxicants, and reproductive toxicants. “Chemical ranking systems rate many vaccine ingredients among the most hazardous substances” known, even in microscopic doses.
“Millions of children (and adults) are partaking in an enormous crude experiment, and no sincere, organized effort is being made to track the negative side effects or to determine the long-term consequences.”
Dr. Bart Classen’s epidemiological research found vaccines as the cause of 79% of insulin type I diabetes cases in children under 10. The sharp rise in numerous other diseases may also be linked with mass-immunizations. California’s autism rate skyrocketed 1000% in the last 20 years. In the 1990s, MMR vaccine usage in Britain (for measles, mumps and rubella) occurred at the same time autism rose sharply. The January 2000 Journal of Adverse Drug Reactions reported that no adequate testing was done, so the vaccine never should have been licensed.
The Autism Society says: “Autism is a complex developmental disability that typically appears during the first three years of life and is the result of a neurological disorder that affects the normal functioning of the brain….”
According to the CDC and National Vaccine Information Center, one in every 150 US children develop the disease. Tens of millions are affected worldwide, making it more common than pediatric cancer, incurable type 1 (juvenile-onset) diabetes and AIDS combined. In the early 1940s, prior to mass immunizations, autism was so rare that few doctors ever encountered it. Today it’s a global pandemic.
Truth No. 7
Long-term vaccination reactions have been suppressed and ignored in spite of the alarming correlation between their use and the rise of autoimmune and other diseases. Vaccines aren’t for protection. They’re for profit and other nefarious purposes. Avoiding them is essential to protecting human health and well-being.
Myth No. 8: Vaccines are the only available disease prevention option
“Historically, homeopathy has proven many times…more effective than allopathic (conventional) medicine in the treatment and prevention of disease.” During the 1849 US cholera outbreak, homeopathic hospitals documented a 3% death rate compared to 48 – 60% in conventional ones. It’s as true today, and recent epidemiological studies show homeopathic remedies far superior to vaccines in preventing diseases. They’re safe, effective, and toxin and side effect-free, yet most insurers won’t cover them.
Truth No. 8
Alternative treatments and remedies have been safe and effective for generations, yet the medical establishment and governments attack and spurn them.
Myth No. 9: “Vaccinations are legally mandated and unavoidable…”
All states require them. However, laws vary by state, legal exemptions exist, and all states offer one or more of the following:
– all states allow medical exemptions for persons susceptible to adverse reactions; parents can cite this for their children based on family history;
– 48 states offer religious exemptions but may require membership in an established religious organization; “according to federal precedent, personal religious beliefs may be sufficient for a religious exemption regardless of which religious organization you belong to, or whether or not you belong to an organized religion at all;” in addition, the Supreme Court defined religion broadly for legal purposes; and
– 17 states allow philosophical or personal exemptions.
All public and private schools must comply with federal and state vaccination laws and permit legal exemptions.
Truth No. 9
Some vaccines are mandated, but most, perhaps all, US citizens may use legal exemptions to avoid them. In a recent article, however, Phillips states:
“All non-medical exemptions in the US are ultimately provided conditionally. That is, states have the right to require immunization for everyone, legally exempt or not, during an (emergency) outbreak, other than (for) those” with medical exemptions.
Myth No. 10: Governments place public health concerns above all others
Vaccination history shows “documented instances of deceit portraying vaccines as mighty disease conquerors, when in fact vaccines have had little or no discernible impact – or have even delayed or reversed – pre-existing disease declines….Conflicts of interest are the norm in the vaccine industry.” Government agencies like the FDA and CDC are stacked with corporate officials who return to high-paying industry jobs provided they place profit considerations over public health and safety.
In November 2000, concern over this and adverse reactions got the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) to pass a unanimous resolution at its 57th meeting calling for a moratorium on mandatory childhood vaccinations and for doctors to insist on “truly informed consent for (their) use….”
In October 1999, Dr. Bart Classen, founder and CEO of Classen Immunotherapies, told Congress:
“It is clear….that the government’s immunization policies are driven by politics and not by science. I can give numerous examples where employees of the US Public Health Service….appear to be furthering their careers by acting as propaganda officers to support political agendas. In one case….employees of a foreign government, who were funded and working closely with the US Public Health Service, submitted false data to a major medical journal. The true data indicated the vaccine was dangerous; however, the false data” indicated no risk.
In addition, “four letters from the FDA/Public Health Service….clearly reveal(ed) that the anthrax vaccine” approved for US military personnel was done “without the manufacturer performing a single controlled clinical trial.” They’re essential to determine safety and effectiveness. Failure to conduct them proved devastating to the health and well-being of recipients and still does today. Besides, all vaccines are unsafe and some are extremely dangerous.
US military forces receive many or all of the following vaccinations:
– three shots for hepatitis B;
– two for hepatitis A;
– annually for influenza so all military personnel will get Swine Flu shots;
– all military personnel must have documented proof of receiving MMR vaccines for measles, mumps and rubella; those without them them get single doses;
– two varicella (chicken pox) shots;
– smallpox doses every ten years;
– three for polio for adults never vaccinated; those fully vaccinated get a booster shot;
– tetanus-diphtheria and pertussis vaccinations for personnel who haven’t have them in the past 10 years;
– tetanus every 10 years;
– typhoid vaccinations in either oral or injectable forms;
– a multiple dose series for anthrax;
– yellow fever every 10 years in some cases;
– three for rabies and later boosters;
– tuberculosis screening and shots;
– single pneumococcal doses;
– meningococcal vaccinations every five years before deployment to certain regions; and
– three Japanese encephalitis doses in some cases.
Multiple vaccinations for all US military personnel practically assures damage to their immune systems and severe health problems later on.
Truth No. 10
Public health officials approve dangerous vaccines on unsuspecting recipients and profit handsomely for their efforts.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Ali_Kannibali op 04-08-2009 01:31:02 ]
Het is de moeite waard om het gehele artikel hier te lezen.
Myth No. 1: Vaccines are safe
Under the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Reporting System) was established. Annually, it reports about 11,000 serious vaccine reactions, including up to 200 deaths and many more permanent disabilities.
Far more alarming is the following;
– the FDA estimates that only 1% of serious adverse reactions are reported;
– CDC says it’s 10%;
– medical school students testified before Congress that they’re told not to report these incidents;
– according to the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), only one in 40 New York doctors reported adverse vaccine reactions or deaths;
– international studies show vaccines cause up to 10,000 US SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) deaths annually, and at least half of them are from vaccines;
– another study determined that 3000 US children die annually from vaccines;
– poor reporting in America suggests that annual adverse vaccine reactions, in fact, number from 100,000 – one million;
– since 1988, the government’s National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP) paid families of affected children $1.2 billion in damages;
– as authorized by the 2006 Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act, HHS Secretary Sebelius, granted drug companies legal immunity (except for impossible to prove willful misconduct) to proliferate dangerous, untested Swine Flu vaccines globally;
– vaccines are legally mandated in all 50 US states, though legally avoidable in most (under normal circumstances) as explained below;
– in settling vaccine damage suits, drug companies impose gag orders to keep vital information from the public; and
– insurers refuse to cover adverse vaccine reactions because of the high potential liability they’d face.
Truth No. 1
Vaccinations cause high numbers of severe reactions, permanent disabilities, and deaths as well as an enormous personal and public cost. Virtually none of this gets reported.
Myth No. 2: Vaccines are very effective
Medical literature documents significant numbers of vaccine failures for measles, mumps, small pox, pertussis, polio and Hib-causing bacterial meningitis and pneumonia. In 1989, Oman experienced a widespread polio outbreak six months after completing a population-wide immunization program. In Kansas (in 1986), 90% of 1300 reported pertussis cases were “adequately vaccinated,” and 72% of Chicago pertussis incidents in 1993 had been as well.
Truth No. 2
Evidence shows that vaccinations are an unreliable and dangerous way to prevent illness and disease.
Myth No. 3: Low US disease rates are attributable to vaccines
From 1850 – 1940, well before mandatory vaccination programs, the British Association for the Advancement of Science reported a 90% decrease in childhood diseases due to improved sanitation and hygiene practices. By 1945, US medical authorities noted a 95% drop in deaths from the leading childhood infectious diseases (diphtheria, pertussis, scarlet fever and measles), well before mass-immunizations began.
A recent WHO report found that third world disease and mortality rates had no direct correlation with immunization programs, but closely relate to hygiene and diet standards.
Truth No. 3
No evidence links vaccines with infectious disease declines. Proper hygiene and diet practices may be far more effective.
Myth No. 4: Sound immunization theory and practice prove the effectiveness of vaccines
Although vaccines stimulate antibody production, no evidence suggests that alone assures immunity. A 1950 British Medical Council-published study found no relationship between antibody count and disease incidence. Natural immunization involves many bodily organs and systems. Artificially producing antibodies can’t achieve it.
Research also shows how squalene adjuvants harm the human immune system, making it susceptible to numerous illnesses and diseases ranging from very annoying to life threatening. In addition, the “herd immunity” notion of mass-immunizations effectiveness is largely discredited. Just the opposite is true as evidence shows that fully vaccinated populations have experienced epidemics numerous times in the past.
Further, vaccine effectiveness “remains scientifically unproven” because no double blind studies have been conducted to do it. Significantly, recent disease outbreaks have affected more vaccinated children than unvaccinated ones. And the common practice of “one size fits all” is troublesome. It lets tiny new-borns get the same dosage as a five year old. It tolerates dubious quality control practices producing what’s known as “Hot Lots” – ones associated with disproportionately high death and disability rates.
Shockingly, the FDA refuses to act preventatively against them. In fact, individual vaccine lots have almost never been recalled even when associated with severe adverse reactions. Instead, they’re administered under the assumption that all recipients respond the same, regardless of race, ethnicity, genetic makeup, or other characteristics.
A recent New England Journal of Medicine-reported study found that a significant number of Romanian children receiving polio vaccine contracted the disease. Evidence linked antibiotic injections to it. One innoculation raised the polio risk eight-fold; two – nine shots, 27-fold, and 10 or more 182-fold.
New research may reveal other unknown hazards, but public safety won’t be addressed until government health officials act responsibly, report accurately, and adequately protect their populations from vaccines they never should allow.
Truth No. 4
Many supposed vaccine truths have, in fact, been proved false.
Myth No. 5: Childhood diseases are extremely dangerous
False. Even CDC data show a 99.8% pertussis recovery rate during the 1992-94 period. One Cincinnati Children’s Hospital infectious diseases expert said at the time: “The disease was very mild, no one died, and no one went to the intensive care unit.”
Nearly always, childhood infectious diseases “are benign and self-limiting. They usually impart lifelong immunity, whereas vaccine-induced immunization (when achieved) is only temporary.” In fact, it can increase vulnerability later on by postponing better tolerated childhood illnesses until adulthood when death rates (though still low) are far higher.
Most important is that nearly all common infectious diseases are rarely dangerous, and, in fact, can develop strong, healthy adult immune systems when they’re most needed. In addition, few people know that children who didn’t contract measles have a higher incidence of skin diseases, degenerative bone and cartilage ones, and tumors while ovarian cancer is higher among mumps-free adult women. The human immune system benefits from common childhood infectious diseases. Freedom from them may be harmful later on.
Truth No. 5
Childhood disease dangers are greatly exaggerated to scare parents into getting their children vaccinated with unsafe drugs.
Myth No. 6: Polio vaccinations were very successful
False again. In 1955, when the Salk vaccine was introduced, polio was considered the most serious post-war public health problem. A year later, six New England states reported sharp rises ranging from more than double in Vermont to a 642% increase in Massachusetts. Other states also were badly impacted enough for Idaho and Utah to halt immunizations due to increased incidence and death rates.
In his 1962 congressional testimony, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, Biostatistics Department head at the University of North Carolina, reported sharp polio increases from 1957 to 1959 and a Public Health Service whitewash that suppressed it. In 1985, the CDC reported that 87% of US cases between 1973 and 1983 were caused by the vaccine. Later it added that it caused nearly all imported cases, and most of the victims were fully vaccinated.
Further, misdiagnosing, poor reporting, and cover-ups suggest that the actual number of vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) cases “may be 10 to 100 times higher than that cited by the CDC.”
In 1977, even Jonas Salk admitted that mass inoculations caused most polio cases since 1961.
Truth No. 6
The Salk vaccine proved highly dangerous. Information about it was suppressed, and declines in the disease were well underway when mass-immunizations were begun. In Europe, they occurred in countries that used, then rejected the vaccine proving it was never needed in the first place. Showing also that the same is true for other diseases, including Swine Flu with the WHO and CDC admitting that most cases are mild, unthreatening, and generally pass without treatment, let alone risking dangerous unneeded vaccines.
Myth No. 7: Lack of an initial adverse reaction proves vaccines are safe
Documented long-term health problems include arthritis, chronic headaches, rashes indicative of disease, non-healing skin lesions, seizures, autism, anemia, multiple sclerosis, ALS, cancer, and many others. Ingredients common to all vaccines are at issue. Squalene adjuvants are a biological time bomb that can harm or destroy the human immune system.
Other ingredients are known toxicants and carcinogens, including thimersol (a mercury derivative), aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol, and numerous gastrointestnal toxicants like liver toxicants, cardiovascular and blood toxicants, and reproductive toxicants. “Chemical ranking systems rate many vaccine ingredients among the most hazardous substances” known, even in microscopic doses.
“Millions of children (and adults) are partaking in an enormous crude experiment, and no sincere, organized effort is being made to track the negative side effects or to determine the long-term consequences.”
Dr. Bart Classen’s epidemiological research found vaccines as the cause of 79% of insulin type I diabetes cases in children under 10. The sharp rise in numerous other diseases may also be linked with mass-immunizations. California’s autism rate skyrocketed 1000% in the last 20 years. In the 1990s, MMR vaccine usage in Britain (for measles, mumps and rubella) occurred at the same time autism rose sharply. The January 2000 Journal of Adverse Drug Reactions reported that no adequate testing was done, so the vaccine never should have been licensed.
The Autism Society says: “Autism is a complex developmental disability that typically appears during the first three years of life and is the result of a neurological disorder that affects the normal functioning of the brain….”
According to the CDC and National Vaccine Information Center, one in every 150 US children develop the disease. Tens of millions are affected worldwide, making it more common than pediatric cancer, incurable type 1 (juvenile-onset) diabetes and AIDS combined. In the early 1940s, prior to mass immunizations, autism was so rare that few doctors ever encountered it. Today it’s a global pandemic.
Truth No. 7
Long-term vaccination reactions have been suppressed and ignored in spite of the alarming correlation between their use and the rise of autoimmune and other diseases. Vaccines aren’t for protection. They’re for profit and other nefarious purposes. Avoiding them is essential to protecting human health and well-being.
Myth No. 8: Vaccines are the only available disease prevention option
“Historically, homeopathy has proven many times…more effective than allopathic (conventional) medicine in the treatment and prevention of disease.” During the 1849 US cholera outbreak, homeopathic hospitals documented a 3% death rate compared to 48 – 60% in conventional ones. It’s as true today, and recent epidemiological studies show homeopathic remedies far superior to vaccines in preventing diseases. They’re safe, effective, and toxin and side effect-free, yet most insurers won’t cover them.
Truth No. 8
Alternative treatments and remedies have been safe and effective for generations, yet the medical establishment and governments attack and spurn them.
Myth No. 9: “Vaccinations are legally mandated and unavoidable…”
All states require them. However, laws vary by state, legal exemptions exist, and all states offer one or more of the following:
– all states allow medical exemptions for persons susceptible to adverse reactions; parents can cite this for their children based on family history;
– 48 states offer religious exemptions but may require membership in an established religious organization; “according to federal precedent, personal religious beliefs may be sufficient for a religious exemption regardless of which religious organization you belong to, or whether or not you belong to an organized religion at all;” in addition, the Supreme Court defined religion broadly for legal purposes; and
– 17 states allow philosophical or personal exemptions.
All public and private schools must comply with federal and state vaccination laws and permit legal exemptions.
Truth No. 9
Some vaccines are mandated, but most, perhaps all, US citizens may use legal exemptions to avoid them. In a recent article, however, Phillips states:
“All non-medical exemptions in the US are ultimately provided conditionally. That is, states have the right to require immunization for everyone, legally exempt or not, during an (emergency) outbreak, other than (for) those” with medical exemptions.
Myth No. 10: Governments place public health concerns above all others
Vaccination history shows “documented instances of deceit portraying vaccines as mighty disease conquerors, when in fact vaccines have had little or no discernible impact – or have even delayed or reversed – pre-existing disease declines….Conflicts of interest are the norm in the vaccine industry.” Government agencies like the FDA and CDC are stacked with corporate officials who return to high-paying industry jobs provided they place profit considerations over public health and safety.
In November 2000, concern over this and adverse reactions got the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) to pass a unanimous resolution at its 57th meeting calling for a moratorium on mandatory childhood vaccinations and for doctors to insist on “truly informed consent for (their) use….”
In October 1999, Dr. Bart Classen, founder and CEO of Classen Immunotherapies, told Congress:
“It is clear….that the government’s immunization policies are driven by politics and not by science. I can give numerous examples where employees of the US Public Health Service….appear to be furthering their careers by acting as propaganda officers to support political agendas. In one case….employees of a foreign government, who were funded and working closely with the US Public Health Service, submitted false data to a major medical journal. The true data indicated the vaccine was dangerous; however, the false data” indicated no risk.
In addition, “four letters from the FDA/Public Health Service….clearly reveal(ed) that the anthrax vaccine” approved for US military personnel was done “without the manufacturer performing a single controlled clinical trial.” They’re essential to determine safety and effectiveness. Failure to conduct them proved devastating to the health and well-being of recipients and still does today. Besides, all vaccines are unsafe and some are extremely dangerous.
US military forces receive many or all of the following vaccinations:
– three shots for hepatitis B;
– two for hepatitis A;
– annually for influenza so all military personnel will get Swine Flu shots;
– all military personnel must have documented proof of receiving MMR vaccines for measles, mumps and rubella; those without them them get single doses;
– two varicella (chicken pox) shots;
– smallpox doses every ten years;
– three for polio for adults never vaccinated; those fully vaccinated get a booster shot;
– tetanus-diphtheria and pertussis vaccinations for personnel who haven’t have them in the past 10 years;
– tetanus every 10 years;
– typhoid vaccinations in either oral or injectable forms;
– a multiple dose series for anthrax;
– yellow fever every 10 years in some cases;
– three for rabies and later boosters;
– tuberculosis screening and shots;
– single pneumococcal doses;
– meningococcal vaccinations every five years before deployment to certain regions; and
– three Japanese encephalitis doses in some cases.
Multiple vaccinations for all US military personnel practically assures damage to their immune systems and severe health problems later on.
Truth No. 10
Public health officials approve dangerous vaccines on unsuspecting recipients and profit handsomely for their efforts.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Ali_Kannibali op 04-08-2009 01:31:02 ]
fucking hell das een lange OP 
lees ik nog wel eens als niet bijna half 2 's nachts is
lees ik nog wel eens als niet bijna half 2 's nachts is
Ja, met zo'n instelling blijf je natuurlijk zwakbegaafd
Homeopathie als alternatief dat wel zou werken 
Veel plezier met je suikerwater.
Veel plezier met je suikerwater.
Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2011 23:18 schreef problematiQue het volgende:
Mensen die zomaar claimen dat A beter is dan B moet je gewoon negeren. Internetruis.
Mensen die zomaar claimen dat A beter is dan B moet je gewoon negeren. Internetruis.
tvp. anders vergeet ik het als ik em bookmark.
heksehiel: Je hebt gelijk. Het gaat wel degelijk ook om het uiterlijk! Een mooi innerlijk word ik niet geil van namelijk.
P.F: Als ik 50+ ben doe ik het ook wel voor het innerlijk, maar nu het nog kan, ga ik ook voor uiterlijk
P.F: Als ik 50+ ben doe ik het ook wel voor het innerlijk, maar nu het nog kan, ga ik ook voor uiterlijk
Hey, die link is al eerder geplaatst (naar dit artikel) ... Hoort misschien stiekem thuis in het vaccinatie-topic, maar er zit zoveel in de OP....we kijken het even aan 
The Rated-R Era ... A Decade of Decadence
Mr. Prolapse 2009
Mr. Prolapse 2009
Voor iedereen die gelooft in alles wat er in de OP wordt gezegd, bekijk deze website (met filmpje) maar even.
http://blogs.discovermaga(...)ment-takes-its-toll/
Antivaxxers =
http://blogs.discovermaga(...)ment-takes-its-toll/
Antivaxxers =
ik ga de OP eens goed doorlezen
- En zoals pijn ook een vorm van voelen is, laat kou me weten dat ik wist wat warmte was.
- Ik ben de reden voor wie voor zijn lijden reden zoekt!
- Those people who tell you not to take chances, they are all missing on what life is about.
- Ik ben de reden voor wie voor zijn lijden reden zoekt!
- Those people who tell you not to take chances, they are all missing on what life is about.
Mooi topic. TVP
TVP
As your walls tumble down, they crack into a smile, and the illumination of self shines through.
WAAR IS DAT BEWIJS DANquote:Truth No. 2
Evidence shows that vaccinations are an unreliable and dangerous way to prevent illness and disease
Een 'may be' in een truth bewering, hoe foutquote:Truth No. 3
No evidence links vaccines with infectious disease declines. Proper hygiene and diet practices may be far more effective.
Door wie, de grootkabouters van BoroBoro? Wat een slecht geschreven ongenuanceerd contextloze kreet zeg, niet te geloven.quote:Truth No. 4
Many supposed vaccine truths have, in fact, been proved false.
Zo, dat is even prijsschieten in 1 minuutje.
[ Bericht 45% gewijzigd door #ANONIEM op 04-08-2009 11:15:12 ]
Whehehe..quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 11:13 schreef Scorpie het volgende:
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WAAR IS DAT BEWIJS DAN
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Een 'may be' in een truth bewering, hoe fout
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Door wie, de grootkabouters van BoroBoro? Wat een slecht geschreven ongenuanceerd contextloze kreet zeg, niet te geloven.
Zo, dat is even prijsschieten in 1 minuutje.
Er zit m.i. een fundamentele fout in deze redenatie, namelijk, dat er geen vergelijking getrokken wordt met het aantal mensen dat anders ziek zou worden van vaccinatie. Vaccinatie heeft bijwerking, dat ontkent niemand, maar als je de ‘bijwerkingen’ van vaccinatie vergelijking met de ‘bijwerkingen’ van een kinkhoestepidemie onder jonge kinderen of de bijwerkingen van rodehond op de ongeboren vrucht van zwangere vrouwen, dan pas kun je een eerlijke vergelijking maken.quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 00:20 schreef Ali_Kannibali het volgende:
Myth No. 1: Vaccines are safe
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Truth No. 1
Vaccinations cause high numbers of severe reactions, permanent disabilities, and deaths as well as an enormous personal and public cost. Virtually none of this gets reported.
Dit is een eenzijdige beschrijving van alles wat mis kan gaan mét vaccinatie, maar het vertelt niet wat de risico's zijn als je níét vaccineert.
Ook hier wordt m.i. een schandelijke fout gemaakt. Wat je zou moeten doen is een populatie vergelijken die wel gevaccineerd is met een populatie die niet gevaccineerd is. En kijken wat het aantal ziektegevallen in beide is. Er is bekend van vaccins dat deze niet bij iedereen aanslaan (zogenaamd non-respons). Laat ik nu een fictief, doch illustratief voorbeeld geven:quote:
Myth No. 2: Vaccines are very effective
Medical literature documents significant numbers of vaccine failures for measles, mumps, small pox, pertussis, polio and Hib-causing bacterial meningitis and pneumonia. In 1989, Oman experienced a widespread polio outbreak six months after completing a population-wide immunization program. In Kansas (in 1986), 90% of 1300 reported pertussis cases were “adequately vaccinated,” and 72% of Chicago pertussis incidents in 1993 had been as well.
Truth No. 2
Evidence shows that vaccinations are an unreliable and dangerous way to prevent illness and disease.
Je hebt een populatie van 1000 mensen die zich niet inent om religieuze redenen. En een populatie van 1 miljoen die zich wel laat inenten. Van de niet-ingeënten wordt 30% ziek. Van de wel ingeënten slaat bij 1 procent het vaccin niet aan. Dat zijn er dus 10.000 op 1 miljoen. Zij hebben ook 30% kans ziek te worden. Kortom, je zult zien dat er 10 maal zoveel mensen die wel ingeënt zijn ziek worden dan mensen die niet ingeënt zijn, maar dat is niet omdat het vaccin niet werkt. Als iedereen niet ingeënt was, dan zouden er duizendmaal zoveel mensen ziek geworden zijn.
En het is vanwege deze niet-responders (wat een bekend en erkend verschijnsel is) dat het zo belangrijk is dat vaccinatie plaatsvindt over de gehele bevolking, zodat er een kuddeimmuniteit ontstaat omdat er niet genoeg mensen zijn die vatbaar zijn. De laatste bof-epidemie in Nederland had b.v. ook een aantal zieke doch gevaccineerde kinderen (wel een minderheid overigens), maar de bof kon alleen uitbreken omdat er inclusief niet gevaccineerde kinderen + degenen bij wie het vaccin niet aansloeg een voldoende grote groep was.
Hier wordt ook een veel-gebruikte truc toegepast: het aantal doden loopt inderdaad al lang achteruit. Ik heb het daar ook met Lambiekje over gehad, en zijn bron maakt eenzelfde redenering en zijn bron illustreerde dat met deze grafiek:quote:Myth No. 3: Low US disease rates are attributable to vaccines
From 1850 – 1940, well before mandatory vaccination programs, the British Association for the Advancement of Science reported a 90% decrease in childhood diseases due to improved sanitation and hygiene practices. By 1945, US medical authorities noted a 95% drop in deaths from the leading childhood infectious diseases (diphtheria, pertussis, scarlet fever and measles), well before mass-immunizations began.
A recent WHO report found that third world disease and mortality rates had no direct correlation with immunization programs, but closely relate to hygiene and diet standards.
En zoals ik toen ook schreef:
Dat het casesverloop vrij stabiel is, dat zegt men er niet bij. Want, inderdaad door steeds betere zorg kunnen meer mensen het overleven, omdat symptomen beter bestreden kunnen worden, maar ze worden nog steeds ziek. En het is wel degelijk heel goed meetbaar hoe mazelen qua aantallen en qua doden afnemen. Om een echt punt te maken moet je dus zowel doden als gevallen in ogenschouw nemen. En uit bovenstaande grafiek blijkt gewoon al dat de volgende truth dus niet hard te maken is:quote:In de jaren 60 is vaccinatie tegen mazelen ingevoerd. Je ziet dus dat de cases, die eerst 200/100 duizend inwoners waren, en een casesverloop dat vrij stabiel was, na vaccinatie afneemt met meer dan het 10 voudige! De doden door mazelen namen inderdaad al af door verbeterde zorg, en je ziet, zeg, zo'n elke 10 jaar een halvering. Dan wordt het vaccin ingevoerd, en je ziet opeens, in twee jaar, een afname van 0,2 naar 0,02 doden per 100k inwoners.
Wat is er dan bedrog aan zo'n vaccin? ‘Als we 40 jaar hadden gewacht en onderwijl kinderen hadden laten sterven aan mazelen dan waren we in 2010 op hetzelfde niveau geweest als in 1965 met vaccinatie’. Dat haal je de koekoek, zo'n redenering!
quote:Truth No. 3
No evidence links vaccines with infectious disease declines. Proper hygiene and diet practices may be far more effective.
Hier moet ik meer bronnenonderzoek naar doen, alhoewel ik een aantal claims niet geloof.quote:Myth No. 4: Sound immunization theory and practice prove the effectiveness of vaccines
Kinkhoest is, zeker voor volwassen geen probleem. Voor kinderen meestal ook niet. Voor pasgeborenen echter wél. En dat is dan ook narigheid als je zulke zaken op één hoop gooit:quote:Myth No. 5: Childhood diseases are extremely dangerous
False. Even CDC data show a 99.8% pertussis recovery rate during the 1992-94 period. One Cincinnati Children’s Hospital infectious diseases expert said at the time: “The disease was very mild, no one died, and no one went to the intensive care unit.”
bronquote:For example, the mean annual pertussis death rate in the United States from 1940 to 1948 was 64 per 100,000 for infants, 6.4 per 100,000 for children 1 to 4 years of age, and 0.2 per 100,000 for children 5 to 14 years of age. During this period, more reported deaths in the first year of life resulted from pertussis than from measles, scarlet fever, diphtheria, poliomyelitis, and meningitis combined.
Nu kreeg natuurlijk niet iedereen kinkhoest, en uit de cijfers die ik daar zie kan ik niet echt een sterfte uitrekenen per ziektegeval, maar dit geeft wel aan dat baby's met name een stuk vatbaarder zijn, en dat voor hen ook kuddeimmuniteit belangrijk is. Daarom is het ook zo ergerlijk als iemand zegt ‘ja, mijn kind was niet gevaccineerd en toen hij 10 was kreeg hij kinkhoest en het was een ziekte van niets’. Dat is inderdaad wel ongeveer waar, maar je moet eens beelden zien van baby's met kinkhoest!
Al die leeftijdsgroepen op één hoop gooien vertroebelt de cijfers dan ook heel erg.
Dat 'nearly always' wordt niet gekwantificeerd, dus er is wat moeilijk om het met cijfers om te gooien, maar polio en pokken zijn niet goedaardig. Ook al overleef je het, je loopt er niet meer vrolijk bij. De littekens van pokken en de vervormingen van kinderverlamming zijn verschrikkelijk.quote:Nearly always, childhood infectious diseases “are benign and self-limiting. They usually impart lifelong immunity, whereas vaccine-induced immunization (when achieved) is only temporary.” In fact, it can increase vulnerability later on by postponing better tolerated childhood illnesses until adulthood when death rates (though still low) are far higher.
Natuurlijk is het bekend dat b.v. waterpokken als volwassene geen pretje is. Rode hond is b.v. ook niet zo ernstig, maar daar wordt ingeënt omdat als een zwangere vrouw dit krijgt de gevolgen voor de foetus heel ernstig kunnen zijn. Tegen waterpokken wordt overigens niet ingeënt. Veel ziektes zijn echter voor kleine kinderen domweg een stuk gevaarlijker dan voor volwassenen, waaronder b.v. het net genoemde kinkhoest.
Geen bron tegen, maar ook zeker niet voor.quote:Most important is that nearly all common infectious diseases are rarely dangerous, and, in fact, can develop strong, healthy adult immune systems when they’re most needed. In addition, few people know that children who didn’t contract measles have a higher incidence of skin diseases, degenerative bone and cartilage ones, and tumors while ovarian cancer is higher among mumps-free adult women. The human immune system benefits from common childhood infectious diseases. Freedom from them may be harmful later on.
Nou, kijk eens naar een kind met polio of met kinkhoest. Natuurlijk, de kans is klein, maar het is gewoon dat je die kans niet wilt lopen.quote:Truth No. 5
Childhood disease dangers are greatly exaggerated to scare parents into getting their children vaccinated with unsafe drugs.
Dit is volgens mij gewoon gelogen.quote:Myth No. 6: Polio vaccinations were very successful
False again. In 1955, when the Salk vaccine was introduced, polio was considered the most serious post-war public health problem. A year later, six New England states reported sharp rises ranging from more than double in Vermont to a 642% increase in Massachusetts. Other states also were badly impacted enough for Idaho and Utah to halt immunizations due to increased incidence and death rates.
In his 1962 congressional testimony, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, Biostatistics Department head at the University of North Carolina, reported sharp polio increases from 1957 to 1959 and a Public Health Service whitewash that suppressed it. In 1985, the CDC reported that 87% of US cases between 1973 and 1983 were caused by the vaccine. Later it added that it caused nearly all imported cases, and most of the victims were fully vaccinated.
Further, misdiagnosing, poor reporting, and cover-ups suggest that the actual number of vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) cases “may be 10 to 100 times higher than that cited by the CDC.”
In 1977, even Jonas Salk admitted that mass inoculations caused most polio cases since 1961.
Truth No. 6
The Salk vaccine proved highly dangerous. Information about it was suppressed, and declines in the disease were well underway when mass-immunizations were begun. In Europe, they occurred in countries that used, then rejected the vaccine proving it was never needed in the first place. Showing also that the same is true for other diseases, including Swine Flu with the WHO and CDC admitting that most cases are mild, unthreatening, and generally pass without treatment, let alone risking dangerous unneeded vaccines.
bronquote:Polio was one of the most dreaded childhood diseases of the 20th Century in the United States. There were usually about 13,000 to 20,000 cases of paralytic polio reported each year in the US before the introduction of Salk inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) in 1955. Polio peaked in 1952 when there were more than 21,000 reported cases. The number of cases of polio decreased dramatically following introduction of the vaccine and the development of a national vaccination program. In 1965, only 61 cases of paralytic polio were reported compared to 2,525 cases reported cases just five years earlier in 1960.
Ik moet opzoeken of b.v. die lokale stijgingen waar zijn, maar zoals veel ziektes komt ook polio in golven. Soms gaat het weg, soms komt het terug. Procentuele stijgingen zijn zodoende vooral interessant als je er absolute cijfers bij hebt. Over de gehele VS genomen zie je dat er een ontzettende daling is, niettegenstaande misschien een lokale stijging.
Autisme claims e.d. zijn nooit bewezen, die squaleen claims ook niet.quote:Myth No. 7: Lack of an initial adverse reaction proves vaccines are safe
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Truth No. 7
Long-term vaccination reactions have been suppressed and ignored in spite of the alarming correlation between their use and the rise of autoimmune and other diseases. Vaccines aren’t for protection. They’re for profit and other nefarious purposes. Avoiding them is essential to protecting human health and well-being.
Homeopathie is nog nooit systematisch bewezen effectiever te zijn dan placebo. Er is een incidentele studie die een (klein) succes aantoont, soms, maar die zijn niet reproduceerbaar en een metaanalyse geeft dat elk succes prima te verklaren valt door aan te nemen dat het effect een placebo-effect is. Als je genoeg studies doet met 95% betrouwbaarheid, dan zullen enkele daarvan toch positief uitvallen.quote:Myth No. 8: Vaccines are the only available disease prevention option
“Historically, homeopathy has proven many times…more effective than allopathic (conventional) medicine in the treatment and prevention of disease.” During the 1849 US cholera outbreak, homeopathic hospitals documented a 3% death rate compared to 48 – 60% in conventional ones. It’s as true today, and recent epidemiological studies show homeopathic remedies far superior to vaccines in preventing diseases. They’re safe, effective, and toxin and side effect-free, yet most insurers won’t cover them.
Truth No. 8
Alternative treatments and remedies have been safe and effective for generations, yet the medical establishment and governments attack and spurn them.
Dit is sowieso VS, en niet Nederland, maar de relevante zaak voor het hooggerechtshof is Jacobson v. Massachusetts.quote:Myth No. 9: “Vaccinations are legally mandated and unavoidable…”
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Some vaccines are mandated, but most, perhaps all, US citizens may use legal exemptions to avoid them. In a recent article, however, Phillips states:
“All non-medical exemptions in the US are ultimately provided conditionally. That is, states have the right to require immunization for everyone, legally exempt or not, during an (emergency) outbreak, other than (for) those” with medical exemptions.
Nog niet veel over te zeggen zonder de bronnen in hun context te plaatsen; voor die ene getuige die er genoemd is zijn er waarschijnlijk ook veel andere.quote:Myth No. 10: Governments place public health concerns above all others
Truth No. 10
Public health officials approve dangerous vaccines on unsuspecting recipients and profit handsomely for their efforts.
Kortom, ik heb, ongeacht de waarheid van de claims, al veel moeite met hoe ze gepresenteerd worden, en hoe cijfers op één hoop gegooid worden of worden genegeerd al naar gelang het hun doel dient.
Daher iſt die Aufgabe nicht ſowohl, zu ſehn was noch Keiner geſehn hat, als, bei Dem, was Jeder ſieht, zu denken was noch Keiner gedacht hat.
quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 12:21 schreef Iblis het volgende:
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Er zit m.i. een fundamentele fout in deze redenatie, namelijk, dat er geen vergelijking getrokken wordt met het aantal mensen dat anders ziek zou worden van vaccinatie.
ik snap het niet, maar het gaat me ook niet om de redenatie, wel om de feiten.quote:Vaccinatie heeft bijwerking, dat ontkent niemand, maar als je de ‘bijwerkingen’ van vaccinatie vergelijking met de ‘bijwerkingen’ van een kinkhoestepidemie onder jonge kinderen of de bijwerkingen van rodehond op de ongeboren vrucht van zwangere vrouwen, dan pas kun je een eerlijke vergelijking maken.
waarom de bijwerking van een vaccinatie uberhaubt willen vergelijken met "bijwerking" van een epidemie ?quote:Dit is een eenzijdige beschrijving van alles wat mis kan gaan mét vaccinatie, maar het vertelt niet wat de risico's zijn als je níét vaccineert.
Nu een beschrijving van wat er mis IS gegaan met de vaccinatie, en de vraag tegen welke ziekte we nu eigenlijk strijden..... gewoon m duidelijkheid te krijgen....21 daklozen dood na H5N1 vaccinatie.
Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland
Three Polish doctors and six nurses are facing criminal prosecution after a number of homeless people died following medical trials for a vaccine to the H5N1 bird-flu virus.
By Matthew Day in Warsaw
Published: 4:37PM BST 02 Jul 2008
21 people died after being given the vaccine
The medical staff, from the northern town of Grudziadz, are being investigated over medical trials on as many as 350 homeless and poor people last year, which prosecutors say involved an untried vaccine to the highly-contagious virus.
Authorities claim that the alleged victims received £1-2 to be tested with what they thought was a conventional flu vaccine but, according to investigators, was actually an anti bird-flu drug.
The director of a Grudziadz homeless centre, Mieczyslaw Waclawski, told a Polish newspaper that last year, 21 people from his centre died, a figure well above the average of about eight.
Although authorities have yet to prove a direct link between the deaths and the activities of the medical staff, Poland's health minister, Ewa Kopacz, has said that the doctors and nurses involved should not return to their profession.
"It is in the interests of all doctors that those who are responsible for this are punished," the minister added.
Investigators are also probing the possibility that the medical staff may have also have deceived the pharmaceutical companies that commissioned the trials.
The suspects said that the all those involved knew that the trial involved an anti-H5N1 drug and willingly participated
Sorry dat ik er zo doorheen wals, maar nu wil ik echt duidelijkheid, en gaan we tot op de bodem, goed?
i reserve the right to do as i damnwell please.
Edit: Ok, het gaat weliswaar over vaccins in het algemeen, maar dat voorbeeld, dat al eerder besproken is, wat zegt dat? Ok, het is niet netjes wat er daar is gebeurd, maar dat incident staat geljik aan al de andere vaccinaties die plaats hebben gevonden of plaats gaan vinden?
Sowieso, gezondheidszorg in dat land is nou niet bepaald 1 van de betere op de wereld..
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Sowieso, gezondheidszorg in dat land is nou niet bepaald 1 van de betere op de wereld..
Iblis is al vrij duidelijk geweest, voel je vrij om zelf ook onderzoek te doen, moet niet afhankelijk zijn van anderen.quote:Sorry dat ik er zo doorheen wals, maar nu wil ik echt duidelijkheid, en gaan we tot op de bodem, goed?
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Wie zegt dat het topic over H1N1 gaat? Volgens mij gaat het over vaccinaties in het algemeen.quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 13:04 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
vanwelleer, leuk dat je een artikel plaatst, maar dat heeft dus niks te maken met de H1N1 vaccinaties, waar het nu uiteindelijk allemaal om draait. Verder is dat artikel ook al eerder besproken geweest en is het iets dat o zichzelf staat. Neemt niet weg dat het onmenselijk was.
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Iblis is al vrij duidelijk geweest, voel je vrij om zelf ook onderzoek te doen, moet niet afhankelijk zijn van anderen.
Of heb je de OP niet gelezen?
*Jij bent ook de eerste die dat woord in de mond neemt. Kijk uit daarmee.
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As your walls tumble down, they crack into a smile, and the illumination of self shines through.
quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 13:04 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
vanwelleer, leuk dat je een artikel plaatst, maar dat heeft dus niks te maken met de H1N1 vaccinaties, waar het nu uiteindelijk allemaal om draait. Verder is dat artikel ook al eerder besproken geweest en is het iets dat o zichzelf staat. Neemt niet weg dat het onmenselijk was.
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Iblis is al vrij duidelijk geweest, voel je vrij om zelf ook onderzoek te doen, moet niet afhankelijk zijn van anderen.
ik begrijp echt werkelijk helemaal geen ruk meer van deze toestand en iedere keer als ik denk te weten hoe het zit, trekt er ergens iemand de vloerbedekking onder m'n voeten weg. Ik zal mijn mond houden tot ik denk te weten wat het verschil is tussen H1N1 en H5N1, sorry voor de verwarring.
i reserve the right to do as i damnwell please.
Omdat het alternatief van wel vaccineren niet-vaccineren is. Natuurlijk worden vaccins verbeterd, maar risico houd je. Je moet echter altijd kiezen tussen het risico van vaccinatie en epidemie. Ziektes gaan niet op magische wijze weg. Eenzijdig focussen op de gevaren van vaccins maakt dat je de gevaren van epidemieën over het hoofd ziet.quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 13:01 schreef vanwelleer het volgende:
Je Polen-daklozenverhaal is al tig keer aan bod gekomen, en daar heb je volgens mij ook al tig keer op gereageerd.
Daher iſt die Aufgabe nicht ſowohl, zu ſehn was noch Keiner geſehn hat, als, bei Dem, was Jeder ſieht, zu denken was noch Keiner gedacht hat.
Game on,.... NEDERLAND, RIVM.Nieuwe Influenza A (H1N1)
Nieuwe Influenza A wordt ook wel Mexicaanse Griep genoemd. De ziekte verloopt in de meeste gevallen mild, en is vergelijkbaar met de seizoensgriep. Iemand met Nieuwe Influenza A is gemiddeld een week ziek. Ook zonder medicijnen te gebruiken worden mensen met deze griep meestal weer snel beter.
Voor bepaalde groepen mensen kan deze griep ernstiger verlopen.
Heeft u 38 graden koorts of luchtwegklachten (hoesten, kortademigheid, keelpijn)? Neemt u dan telefonisch contact op met uw huisarts. Mensen met koorts en andere griepverschijnselen wordt verzocht thuis te blijven.
Wat wil ik nou weten..... ? Ik wil graag weten of deze H1N1 een "natuurlijk" virus is, of dat het gefabriceerd is in een lab. ik wil graag weten of het gebruiken van het vaccin bescherming bied tegen het virus. ik wil graag weten wie het vaccin maakt, en of de gebruikelijke veiligheidsprocedures zijn gevolgd. ik wil graag weten welk risico ik loop als ik het vaccin wel gebruik, en dat kunnen afwegen tegen welk risico ik loop als ik het niet gebruik.
i reserve the right to do as i damnwell please.
@ iblis, begrijp me niet verkeerd, ik heb veel topics hierover gevolgd, gelezen, en begrijp gewoon de inhoud niet, zeker niet tegenover de berichten over de sterfgevallen, niet uitsluitend daar...
Je zult wel moe worden van de herhalingen, maar het gaat hier om iets dat heel belangrijk is,........ of helemaal niet eigenlijk.........
totdat ik voor mezelf genoeg info heb waar ik op vertrouwen kan, ben ik onzeker, en best een beetje serieus bang voor gevolgen van zowel inenten, als uitzieken...... vandaar.
Je zult wel moe worden van de herhalingen, maar het gaat hier om iets dat heel belangrijk is,........ of helemaal niet eigenlijk......... totdat ik voor mezelf genoeg info heb waar ik op vertrouwen kan, ben ik onzeker, en best een beetje serieus bang voor gevolgen van zowel inenten, als uitzieken...... vandaar.
i reserve the right to do as i damnwell please.
Neem contact op met het RIVM.quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 13:23 schreef vanwelleer het volgende:
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Geen grapje, echt doen. Die kunnen dat met 100% zekerheid zeggen, iedere ander hier moet het doen met google.
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Gaat het topic nu wel of niet over h1n1?quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 13:44 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
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Neem contact op met het RIVM.
Geen grapje, echt doen. Die kunnen dat met 100% zekerheid zeggen, iedere ander hier moet het doen met google.
Volgens mij niet.
Bedankt dat je ook mijn vraag niet beantwoord overigens.
Het RIVM kan ook niks met 100% zekerheid zeggen, ze zijn god niet.
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quote:Op dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 13:46 schreef mediaconsument het volgende:
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Gaat het topic nu wel of niet over h1n1?
Wat is in vredesnaam je probleem? Zoals je ziet heb ik mijn bericht al ge-edit omdat het inderdaad niet over H1N1 ging, ik vergiste me in het topic + de OP. Aangepast zodat het dus wel klopt met wat er staat.
Allicht zijn ze god niet, maar ze kunnen wel antwoord geven op de vragen die vanwelleer heeft, of hem in ieder geval verder op weg helpen.quote:Het RIVM kan ook niks met 100% zekerheid zeggen, ze zijn god niet.
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