Revolutie Iran #11

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:08 schreef appelsjap het volgende:
Iemand een samenvatting van vandaag? Was er de hele dag niet

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:12 schreef Tokamak het volgende:

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30 jaar geleden deden ze dr ook maanden over. Het is nog niet uitgespeeld hoor, maar het kan wel eens heel lang gaan duren.

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:22 schreef AryaMehr het volgende:
Vandaag & gister demonstratie in Den Haag:

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 19:56 schreef Hanoying het volgende:

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Dacht dat dat ook een uitdrukking was in het nederlands. Ik bedoel het meer als in "zo snel mogeljk invoeren".

Er waren op een gegeven moment wel wat twitter berichten over Europese Ambassades die gewonden zouden opvangen maar voor zover ik weet onbevestigd en in ieder geval niet officieel.

Nederland zou wat mij betreft absoluut gewonden moeten opvangen (voor zover mogelijk). Prima.. Desnoods laat je je ambassadeur maar uitzetten als het zover mocht komen, in ieder geval maak je een statement en doe je ook nog eens concreet iets goeds.

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:37 schreef appelsjap het volgende:
Ik wil de video zien van de vrouw die met een jurk door Teheran loopt, iemand een linkje?

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:37 schreef appelsjap het volgende:
Ik wil de video zien van de vrouw die met een jurk door Teheran loopt, iemand een linkje?

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:31 schreef Tourniquet het volgende:

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Hielden ze daar tegelijk een missverkiezing?

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:31 schreef Tourniquet het volgende:

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Hielden ze daar tegelijk een missverkiezing?

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:44 schreef .txt het volgende:
Netwerk op Ned 2 gaat over de Nokia-Siemens systemen die gebruikt worden door de Iraanse overheid om die demonstranten te achterhalen.

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Neda Soltan's family 'forced out of home' by Iranian authorities

Parents of young woman shot dead near protests are banned from mourning and funeral is cancelled, neighbours say

* A correspondent in Tehran
* guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 24 June 2009 18.00 BST

f their Tehran home after shocking images of her death were circulated around the world.

Neighbours said that her family no longer lives in the four-floor apartment building on Meshkini Street, in eastern Tehran, having been forced to move since she was killed. The police did not hand the body back to her family, her funeral was cancelled, she was buried without letting her family know and the government banned mourning ceremonies at mosques, the neighbours said.
"We just know that they [the family] were forced to leave their flat," a neighbour said. The Guardian was unable to contact the family directly to confirm if they had been forced to leave.

The government is also accusing protesters of killing Soltan, describing her as a martyr of the Basij militia. Javan, a pro-government newspaper, has gone so far as to blame the recently expelled BBC correspondent, Jon Leyne, of hiring "thugs" to shoot her so he could make a documentary film.

Soltan was shot dead on Saturday evening near the scene of clashes between pro-government militias and demonstrators, turning her into a symbol of the Iranian protest movement. Barack Obama spoke of the "searing image" of Soltan's dying moments at his press conference yesterday.

Amid scenes of grief in the Soltan household with her father and mother screaming, neighbours not only from their building but from others in the area streamed out to protest at her death. But the police moved in quickly to quell any public displays of grief. They arrived as soon as they found out that a friend of Soltan had come to the family flat.

In accordance with Persian tradition, the family had put up a mourning announcement and attached a black banner to the building.

But the police took them down, refusing to allow the family to show any signs of mourning. The next day they were ordered to move out. Since then, neighbours have received suspicious calls warning them not to discuss her death with anyone and not to make any protest.

A tearful middle-aged woman who was an immediate neighbour said her family had not slept for days because of the oppressive presence of the Basij militia, out in force in the area harassing people since Soltan's death.

The area in front of Soltan's house was empty today. There was no sign of black cloths, banners or mourning. Secret police patrolled the street.

"We are trembling," one neighbour said. "We are still afraid. We haven't had a peaceful time in the last days, let alone her family. Nobody was allowed to console her family, they were alone, they were under arrest and their daughter was just killed. I can't imagine how painful it was for them. Her friends came to console her family but the police didn't let them in and forced them to disperse and arrested some of them. Neda's family were not even given a quite moment to grieve."

Another man said many would have turned up to show their sympathy had it not been for the police.

"In Iran, when someone dies, neighbours visit the family and will not let them stay alone for weeks but Neda's family was forced to be alone, otherwise the whole of Iran would gather here," he said. "The government is terrible, they are even accusing pro-Mousavi people of killing Neda and have just written in their websites that Neda is a Basiji (government militia) martyr. That's ridiculous – if that's true why don't they let her family hold any funeral or ceremonies? Since the election, you are not able to trust one word from the government." A shopkeeper said he had often met Soltan, who used to come to his store.

"She was a kind, innocent girl. She treated me well and I appreciated her behaviour. I was surprised when I found out that she was killed by the riot police. I knew she was a student as she mentioned that she was going to university. She always had a nice peaceful smile and now she has been sacrificed for the government's vote-rigging in the presidential election."

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 20:42 schreef Hanoying het volgende:

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Reporter: Miss USA, do you have any comment about the situation in Iran

"Well... Uhm.. Yeah... It's like... Those poor people need our help in uhm.. education and such.. It's just totally like.. We can eat everyday you know, and there in Africa with the hunger and such.. when there's like so totally enough for everyone you know. I really feel for those poor negro children over there with the HIV and such and uhm.. well.. That's why I'm here today for like.. a better world you know? <insert glimlach>

Reporter: Thank you miss USA

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 21:25 schreef Hukkie het volgende:
Zinloos? Zelfs als het allemaal bloederig wordt neergeslagen dan hoop ik dat het niet zinloos is geweest.
Kijken of er een kentering in de maak is.

Morgen ook ff die docu bekijken.

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 21:35 schreef rechtsedirecte het volgende:
persiankiwi is in de problemen volgens dit overzicht

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 21:35 schreef rechtsedirecte het volgende:
persiankiwi is in de problemen volgens dit overzicht

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2009 21:45 schreef ouderejongere het volgende:

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Sommige van die Nokia-gerelateerde berichten zijn zo ongeloofwaardig geschreven dat ik nu ook ga twijfelen aan die Netwerk docu (die ik nu nog niet gezien heb).
Het is net als met 9/11, het is overduidelijk dat de officiële lezing niet klopt, maar er is ook zo veel onzin over verspreid dat daarmee alle kritische geluiden ongeloofwaardig worden.