Die had ik gisteren al gepostquote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 12:39 schreef DrWolffenstein het volgende:
Nieuw beeld: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pers(...)street_clashes.shtml
Mooi te zien hoe ze het hazenpad kiezen!quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 12:39 schreef DrWolffenstein het volgende:
Nieuw beeld: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pers(...)street_clashes.shtml
quote:today we have hidden cameras in good locations ready to give u film - #Iranelection
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Die beelden waren er gisteren al, zijn waarschijnlijk zaterdag opgenomen. Er is trouwens ook een filmpje wat volgens mij vanaf dezelfde positie is opgenomen waar precies het tegeovergestelde gebeurt (betogers vluchten weg). Ik weet alleen niet in welke volgorde het heeft plaatsgevonden.quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 12:39 schreef DrWolffenstein het volgende:
Nieuw beeld: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pers(...)street_clashes.shtml
Ja. Liever nog zo snel mogelijk berichten die een einde maken aan de onrusten.quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 12:53 schreef kringspier het volgende:
Py, met die gedachte zit ik nou ook.. klinkt misschien een beetje cru, maar ik hoop dat er veel beelden naar buiten komen
Nog een steentje die afbrokkelt, hopelijkquote:Based on not verified, Sardar Ali Fazli has been arrested
yesterday by order of Ali Khamenei , he is one of the greatest commanders of the Revolutionary Guards
who was recently assigned as the commander of Tehran Province Corps "Seyed Alshohada".Reports indicate that this action if followed by his refusal from Ali Khameneyee to suppress people. He is the veteran of the imposed war and because of his refusal has been immediately arrested and transferred to an uncertain place.
Sardar Ali Fazli is said to be the former deputy commander of operations of Iranian total Revolutionary Guards.
quote:Tehran 2.0
6:40 PM Sunday June 21, 2009
Dear Ayatollah Khamenei,
Welcome to the 21st century.
Here's what you're up against.
"If one voice can change a room,
then it can change a city,
and if it can change a city, it can change a state,
and if it can change a state, it can change a nation,
and if it can change a nation, it can change the world."
Who said that? Your alter ego: Barack Obama.
He launched the first political revolution of the 21st century. And you're facing the second.
You're the Supreme Leader, so I guess you probably think you hold all the cards. The problem is that it's the last hand of the last game - ever.
Here's what you're up against: the new economics of organization.
You command and control. The opposition self-organizes.
Your advantage is force. The opposition's is resilience.
You had a strategy - to maintain power. The opposition has a purpose - to change the world.
You divide and conquer. The opposition links and unifies.
You wield thin power - violence. The opposition wields thick power - belief.
If one voice can change a room - then it can change the world.
What does that really mean?
There is nothing more asymmetrical than an ideal. In the right hands, an ideal is a weapon more potent than any club, gun, or bomb. It can turn a two nerdy computer science PhDs at Stanford into corporate titans. It can turn an unknown junior senator into the President of the United States.
And it can, just maybe, turn an inconsequential 140 character messaging service into a tool that helps revolutionize a state.
The opposition has many ideals: liberty, equality, justice, hope.
Where are yours? That's the dilemma you face.
The revolutionaries' day might not be today. In fact, it probably won't be, unless the opposition finds their own Obama. But this day is important, historical, prescient. Because - just as Obama's nomination marked the end of the 20th century in America - it surely marks the beginning of the end of the 20th century in Iran.
Which reminds me. You know what? If you were ever to find yourself in the middle of organizing a 2.0 political movement in, say, Tehran...the talk linked to above might be exactly what you need to get started.
Yes, Tehran - we can.
Love,
Umair and the Edge Economy Community
http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/haque/2009/06/revolution.html
quote:
Umair Haque is Director of the Havas Media Lab, a new kind of strategic advisor that helps investors, entrepreneurs, and firms experiment with, craft, and drive radical management, business model, and strategic innovation.
Prior to Havas, Umair founded Bubblegeneration, an agenda-setting advisory boutique that helped shape the strategies of investors, entrepreneurs, and blue chip companies across media and consumer industries. Bubblegeneration’s work has been recognized by publications like Wired, The Red Herring, Business 2.0, and BusinessWeek, and in Chris Anderson’s Long Tail, to which Umair was a contributor.
Mja, in die zin krijgt dinges wel n beetje gelijk met zn: "de kijker is verantwoordelijk voor wat er zich daar afspeelt"quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 12:52 schreef Py het volgende:
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Het is wat dubbel. Aan de ene kant hoop je dat het lukt zoveel mogelijk materiaal naar buiten te krijgen waaruit goed duidelijk wordt wat er zich afspeelt. Aan de andere kant ben je natuurlijk ramptoerist 1e klas achter je peeceetje.
Dat is dus een fatwa tegen het gebruiken van geweld om het protest te onderdrukken?quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 10:06 schreef Manke het volgende:
From Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri's statement today:
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Ja, die is al een week oud hoor, maar deze grand ayatollah staat al enkele jaren onder huisarrest - dus ook al is hij 1 van de hoogste geestelijk leiders (hij staat geloof ik zelfs boven Khamenei) , de politiek luistert niet meer naar hem, sommige politieagenten wel gok/hoop ik...quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 13:17 schreef HiZ het volgende:
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Dat is dus een fatwa tegen het gebruiken van geweld om het protest te onderdrukken?
Vind ik niet. Dat zou het geval zijn als het een vraag- en aanbod situatie was. Het is njiet zo dat wij om gruwelijke beelden vragen. Het is dat zij dolgraag willen dat zo veel mogelijk mensen die beelden zien.quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 13:15 schreef Tokamak het volgende:
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Mja, in die zin krijgt dinges wel n beetje gelijk met zn: "de kijker is verantwoordelijk voor wat er zich daar afspeelt"
Met een online vertaler (en dus niet te lezen):quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 13:52 schreef Sitethief het volgende:
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=99382887605&ref=mf
Iemand goed in Farsi?
quote:General Ali Fazli, recently appointed as commander of Seiyed al-shohada of the Revolutionary Guards in Tehran province, has been arrested for refusing to carry Khamenei's order to use force against demonstrators, according to an unconfirmed report on the Balatarin, spotted by Robert Tait.
Earlier reports suggested that Fazli, who lost an eye during Iran's war with Iraq, had been sacked for his non-compliance. He is said to have been taken to an unknown location after his "arrest". Could this be a first sign of a split among the upper echelons in the security forces?
Ah, nu kunnen we zelf een bijdrage leveren door te sharenquote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 14:40 schreef Sitethief het volgende:
http://giagro.wordpress.com/torrents/
Interessant, er worden torrents ingezet om video's te delen.
-speelt zich meer af dan je ziet lijkt mequote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 13:15 schreef Tokamak het volgende:
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Mja, in die zin krijgt dinges wel n beetje gelijk met zn: "de kijker is verantwoordelijk voor wat er zich daar afspeelt"
quote:Anti-riot police attacks a crowd of people holding candles in Tehran’s 7 Tir Sq., attempting to disperse them #iranelection
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Dat is een rouwstoet voor de vermoordde demonstranten:quote:In Tehran’s 7-Tir Sq, anti-riot forces and plain clothes have clashed with protesters and mourners #iranelection
13 minuten ago from web
quote:TODAY 4pm - Haft Tir Sq - Meydan 7 Tir - Tehran - candle vigil - sitting on floor - in memory of our martyrs - #Iranelection RT RT RT
vertaald uit het farsi, van iranbaanquote:The head of the Judicial Commission called for the Mir Hossein Mousavi judicial prosecution.
Verschillende Europese ambassadeurs worden het land uitgezet.quote:Iran in reaction to the “today European countries compared to the developments in the recent elections dismissed some European ambassadors.
quote:On Monday 22 June (Tir 1), Hassan Qashqavi, a spokesman of Iran’s foreign ministry criticized the western countries met with protests related to the results of elections said that recent behavior and the remarks of the countries in recent issues assessment and observations and "appropriate measures in accordance with the facts are being investigated" and added that the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Committee along with foreign minister, and vicegerents the ministries of the issue are investigating.
Mr. Qashqavi, in his weekly press conference said that an Extraordinary Meeting in the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy, "different dimensions interference some western countries in the election in the fields of official and political, security and intelligence and the media" is being investigated refrences and it has been presented to the parliament.
Hassan Qashqavi American and European countries charged that instead of inviting people to Iran’s democratic mechanisms and emphasis on Askarzada law, he said that "the expensive confusion" have supported and the supporters of the candidates as distinct from the confusion as expensive.
The time of announcing the results of elections the tenth of the presidency in the early hours last mind action and Ayatollah Khamenei, the Islamic Republic, in confirmation of these results, street protests in Tehran and several city has been held.
Government officials such as illegal demonstrations and unrest expensive incendiarism attack on the property has introduced people have protested against candidates and their supporters some government agents, especially Basij forces and the group called the clothes are to meet objectors to the streets have been sent to the violent actions such as murder and the protesters destroyed public property and attack on the houses and business people.
Mr. Qashqavi by pointing to confront the demonstrators by security forces of invasion by throwing stones said that the presence of people in the elections "brilliant beauty is that the apex of honor and dignity thanksgivings Iranian and western officials to we will not allow it to be a piece of stone and the opportunists to glass house insider viewpoint. "
While the two tons of the candidates for the election fraud in the elections had accused issues… and called for the elections have been, and also demonstration in support of this claim, adding that Mr. statements by the President of France in defense of the objectors to interference in domestic affairs of Iran and said that the past 30 years, issues… elections in Iran has no record and such statements as "media war, political and security".
charges against the news media
The foreign ministry of information of the news media in the international developments after the elections in Iran and said that "psychological war headquarters in CNN and BBC has become active", BBC and Voice of America, children and prime minister of foreign affairs minister described as Israel sought to weaken national cohesion.
He was charged with violent confrontation with government officials exaggerated the demonstrators and said that agents holding illegal gatherings merely to pay fines have been convicted.
Hassan Qashqavi statistics in the recent events killed that the media state Islamic republic news published it has been confirmed and have stated that it did not.
Simultaneously, Kazem Jalali, spokesman for the national security and foreign policy, has said that members of the Commission in the meeting with foreign minister, and he vicegerents be revised in relations with Britain.
Iran’s government officials, including Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Islamic Republic, in his statements in the current protests, Western countries about the British had attacked are considering a request by the number of other countries and also the chairman of the United Nations to respect the votes of people and respecting the rights of peaceful gathering, due to the British government would be elected as the head of the recent developments in Iran is not clear.
The time that the presidential election, only a few of the elected government Mahmud Ahmadi Nejad congratulated and other countries or to be acceptable expressed doubt about the results and in this case has been silent.
In the latest reaction to the elections, the government Australia demonstrators were killed by government officials in Tehran condemn and has said that none can not be the Iran’s presidential elections to be acceptable.
Simultaneously, the news media throughout the world that because the limitations of their actions by the government Iran news sources to rely on non-official, pictures and reports about violence against demonstrators who have published some of them jolter has been described.
According to the observers, while Mr. Ahmadinezhad had in relying on the participation of voters and presenting statistics about the wide support them with more authority in international arena, the result of elections and the manner of the Government's treatment can be objectors position and credibility of the situation in international relations severely weakened.
Zie voor de rest:quote:Iran's Web Spying Aided By Western Technology
European Gear Used in Vast Effort to Monitor Communications
By CHRISTOPHER RHOADS in New York and LORETTA CHAO in Beijing
The Iranian regime has developed, with the assistance of European telecommunications companies, one of the world's most sophisticated mechanisms for controlling and censoring the Internet, allowing it to examine the content of individual online communications on a massive scale.
Interviews with technology experts in Iran and outside the country say Iranian efforts at monitoring Internet information go well beyond blocking access to Web sites or severing Internet connections.
Instead, in confronting the political turmoil that has consumed the country this past week, the Iranian government appears to be engaging in a practice often called deep packet inspection, which enables authorities to not only block communication but to monitor it to gather information about individuals, as well as alter it for disinformation purposes, according to these experts.
The monitoring capability was provided, at least in part, by a joint venture of Siemens AG, the German conglomerate, and Nokia Corp., the Finnish cellphone company, in the second half of 2008, Ben Roome, a spokesman for the joint venture, confirmed.
The "monitoring center," installed within the government's telecom monopoly, was part of a larger contract with Iran that included mobile-phone networking technology, Mr. Roome said.
"If you sell networks, you also, intrinsically, sell the capability to intercept any communication that runs over them," said Mr. Roome.
The sale of the equipment to Iran by the joint venture, called Nokia Siemens Networks, was previously reported last year by the editor of an Austrian information-technology Web site called Futurezone.
The Iranian government had experimented with the equipment for brief periods in recent months, but it had not been used extensively, and therefore its capabilities weren't fully displayed -- until during the recent unrest, the Internet experts interviewed said.
"We didn't know they could do this much," said a network engineer in Tehran. "Now we know they have powerful things that allow them to do very complex tracking on the network."
Aanvalluh!quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 12:39 schreef DrWolffenstein het volgende:
Nieuw beeld: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pers(...)street_clashes.shtml
Desalniettemin zie je hoeveel kracht je in grote groepen hebt. Geweldig filmpje.quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 12:50 schreef AlexanderDeGrote het volgende:
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Mooi te zien hoe ze het hazenpad kiezen!Erg halfslachtige poging van die politie trouwens, beetje flauw wat stenen hun richting opgooien en dan wegwezen, niet echt gemotiveerde indruk van.
van persiankiwi:quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 15:50 schreef AlexanderDeGrote het volgende:
Hier een lang artikel over technologische middelen van het regime om informatie te monitoren en te beinvloeden, met dank aan Siemens e.a.:
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Zie voor de rest:
http://online.wsj.com/art(...)d=article-outset-box
quote:we must now leave our DSL connection becos the owners will soon be coming - but we always find a way ALWAYS #Iranelection
quote:Now they r cracking down on us through our pictures: http://bit.ly/pXTjH plz hack this site and gerdab.ir #IranElection #Neda
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quote:@unit101 Thanks for quick hack!
2 minuten ago from TweetDeck in reply to unit101
quote:It's back up again RT Iran someone got to take down damn http://www.bultannews.com protester spying site #gr88 #iranelection #neda
een halve minuut ago from web
http://twitter.com/paulocoelhoquote:paulocoelho
Iran: my best friend in the country, a doctor, can be seeing here trying to ressucitate Neda: http://bit.ly/PmTfa . Tears in my eyes6 minuten ago from web
Volgens de mensen op twitter barst het overal van de veiligheidstroepen:quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 16:39 schreef alexis_ het volgende:
Dat meisje blijkt een Ahmadinejad stemmer te zijn.
Verder vertelt ze dat er nauwelijks security forces op de straat zijn en weinig demonstraties.
Lijkt op propaganda.
Armirabad is een plaats in het noordoosten, richting Afghanistan.quote:Confirmed: Amirabad is currently full of gaurds and police #IranElection #Neda
32 minuten ago from TweetDeck
quote:RTConfirmed: Amirabad, Tehran is currently full of guards and police #IranElection
25 minuten ago from Seesmic Desktop
quote:road blocks controlling movement of people from North to South Tehran to stop ppl joining Sea of Green #Iranelection
quote:Tehran Majlis - Parliment - under heavy guard and road blocks with armed militia - #Iranelection
quote:"There is a massive, massive, massive police presence - their presence is really intimidating" #iranelection
27 minuten ago from Seesmic Desktop
Op de staatstelevisie de volgende oproep:quote:Military forces to disperse the people constantly air shooting.
quote:Iranian state tv is asking "citizens" to help identify and arrest protestors #IranElection #Neda
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Tja, bij elke gebeurtenis heeft men het over een breaking point, maar tot nu toe lijkt de regering alles goed vastgezet te hebbenquote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 17:12 schreef Sitethief het volgende:
Dit zou heel goed het breaking point van het huidige regime kunnen zijn!
Tja... de vorige keer zat ze voortdurend te lachen, nu kan ze haar tranen niet onderdrukken bij de gedachte aan martelaren. Ik hecht niet zoveel waarde aan haar woorden vanuit dat veilige plekje overzee.quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 17:12 schreef Sitethief het volgende:
Dit zou heel goed het breaking point van het huidige regime kunnen zijn!
Letterlijk en figuurlijk vastgezet:quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2009 17:15 schreef Zith het volgende:
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Tja, bij elke gebeurtenis heeft men het over een breaking point, maar tot nu toe lijkt de regering alles goed vastgezet te hebben
quote:Many of the Kalameh members are entrapped in the papers’ main building. #iranelection
minder dan een minuut ago from web
quote:Plain clothes have attacked the main office of Kalameh Newspaper in Tehran #iranelection
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