Rellen in Iran #4 - Waar het dodental stijgt !

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 15:59 schreef Ps2K het volgende:
De tegendemonstratie is gephotoshopped om groter te lijken:

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 15:57 schreef AryaMehr het volgende:
Ooggetuigen melden dat weer miljoenen mensen in Teheran de straat zijn opgegaan. Schattingen liggen rond de 3 miljoen.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 15:59 schreef Ps2K het volgende:
De tegendemonstratie is gephotoshopped om groter te lijken:

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:16 schreef Chooselife het volgende:

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Wat een kolder zeg.

Op basis waarvan trek jij deze conclusie, dorpsgek?! Heb je ze zelf zitten tellen ofzo. Of staat je demente tante op het balkon met een telraam op de railing?

Het wordt echt hoe langer, hoe gekker hier met de geruchten.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:20 schreef AryaMehr het volgende:

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De demonstratie van maandag trok ook tussen de 2-3 miljoen doden.

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Nu er ook nog doden zijn gevallen versterkt dit de eenheid alleen maar meer. Verschillende mensen in Iran en journalisten die undercover zijn melden het aantal van rond de 2/3 miljoen ook. Doet pijn he?

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:23 schreef Chooselife het volgende:

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Geniale oneliner. Deze gaat wat mij betreft de geschiedenisboeken in.
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2/3 miljoen zeker ja. Da's ongeveer een 666.000.

Bron: Verschillende mensen en undercover journalisten. Oftewel; ik zweer je, ik zweer je, vraag zelf! Ben blij dat de bron tenminste betrouwbaar is.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:17 schreef wikwakka2 het volgende:

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Wat een debieltjes werken daar ook zeg Ze hadden toch ook al zoiets gedaan met 3 raketten waarvan 1 niet afgevuurd kon worden? Het zegt wel iets over dat regime van Ahmedinejad.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:27 schreef AryaMehr het volgende:

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Bewijs van fraude. Stemmen van een presidentskandidaat die in absolute getallen met de tijd afnamen.

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WRAPUP 7-Mousavi calls day of mourning for Iran dead


* Mousavi calls day of mourning for Thursday

* Supporters gather for Wednesday protest

* Obama says Mousavi, Ahmadinejad policies similar



EDITORS' NOTE: Reuters and other foreign media are subject
to Iranian restrictions on their ability to report, film or take
pictures in Tehran.


(Adds Mousavi supporters gather)

By Hashem Kalantari and Fredrik Dahl

TEHRAN, June 17 (Reuters) - Defeated candidate Mirhossein
Mousavi called for peaceful protests or gatherings in mosques on
Thursday to mourn those killed after a disputed election set off
Iran's worst unrest since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's victory against the
reformist Mousavi sparked demonstrations and bloody street
battles in Tehran which killed at least seven people on Monday
while other protests flared up in cities across Iran.

"A number of our countrymen were wounded or martyred,"
Mousavi said, calling the day of mourning for Thursday.

"I ask the people to express their solidarity with the
families ... by coming together in mosques or taking part in
peaceful demonstrations," Mousavi said on his website.

Bloodshed, mass protests, arrests and a media crackdown have
focused world attention on the fifth-biggest oil exporter which
is locked in a nuclear row with the West.

After Mousavi's message, hundreds of his supporters gathered
in Tehran's Haft-e Tir Square for a fifth day of demonstrations.

The political earthquake set off by Friday's vote prompted
President Barack Obama, who had urged the Iranian leadership to
"unclench its fist", to say the upheaval showed that "Iranian
people are not convinced with the legitimacy of the election".

Major Western nations have questioned the result's fairness.

Discord within Iran's ruling system has never been so
public. The Mousavi camp is backed by traditional establishment
figures, such as former presidents Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani and
Mohammad Khatami, concerned about how Ahmadinejad's truculent
foreign policy and populist economics are shaping Iran's future.

Further protests planned for Wednesday and Thursday are a
direct challenge to the authorities who have kept a tight grip
on dissent since the U.S.-backed shah was overthrown in 1979
after months of protest.

State television has said the "main agents" behind the
turmoil have been arrested with guns and explosives.
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is to lead Friday
prayers and is expected to repeat his appeal for calm.

Iran's highest authority has already urged people to back
Ahmadinejad but despite Khamenei's calls for national unity,
Mousavi supporters have continued pouring into the streets.



ARRESTS, DEATH PENALTY

Security forces arrested a pro-reform activist and an editor
on Wednesday while a provincial prosecutor warned that those
causing unrest faced the death penalty. An official inquiry was
launched into an attack on university students.

Tens of thousands of pro-Mousavi supporters defied
authorities to rally in Tehran on Tuesday after the seven were
killed in Monday's violence but international media were
forbidden from leaving their offices to cover the event.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman urged the
Iranian government on Wednesday to respect free speech and to
put an end to restrictions on news coverage.

After Monday's deaths, Mousavi had asked followers to call
off a planned rally in the same downtown area on Tuesday so the
marchers headed north instead. Some said there would be another
rally at Tehran's central Haft-e Tir Square on Wednesday.

Tuesday's rally was addressed by Faezeh Rafsanjani, daughter
of the former president who backed Mousavi. Her public support
was another sign of high-level rifts in the Islamic Republic.
Hardline students called for her to be arrested for incitement.

Amongst his supporters, Mousavi attracted many Iranians who
felt Ahmadinejad had mis-handled the economy, curbed social
freedoms and alienated Iran from the outside world.

Mousavi's camp also said he would seek detente with the West
and enhance the role of women -- a pledge reinforced by the high
profile role his wife took on the campaign trail.

Pro-Mousavi protests have been reported in the cities of
Rasht, Orumiyeh, Zanjan, Zahedan, Tabriz and Mashhad.

Mohammadreza Habibi, prosecutor-general in Isfahan province,
said: "We warn the few ... controlled by foreigners who try to
disrupt domestic security by inciting individuals to destroy and
to commit arson that the Islamic penal code for such individuals
waging war against God is execution."

A reformist source said Saeed Laylaz, editor of business
daily Sarmayeh, and activist Mohammadreza Jalaiepour were both
arrested on Wednesday.

"I condemn widespread arrests of children of the revolution
and (the arrests) will motivate people more to continue and
expand protests," Mousavi said.

After Iran's influential speaker of parliament Ali Larijani
condemned violence at Tehran University, Iran's Interior
Ministry ordered an investigation into the attack which students
blamed on the Islamic Basij militia and police.

One student activist who declined to be named told Reuters
on Tuesday that four students were killed during the violence.
Tehran University denied anyone had been killed.

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's highest
authority who has favoured Ahmadinejad, has called for calm,
allowing some ballot boxes to be recounted.

But Iran's top legislative body, the Guardian Council,
ruled out reformists' demands for an annulment of the vote.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said: "We do not
want to intervene directly and we are not doing that. But
indignation, the need to support democrats, the need to support
reformists -- that, we affirm loud and clear."

Violent scenes of police beating Mousavi supporters taken on
mobile phones were broadcast in the West on news bulletins.

Iran's Foreign Ministry summoned the Swiss ambassador, who
represents U.S. interests in Tehran, on Wednesday to protest at
"interventionist" U.S. statements on Iran's election.

Obama told CNBC there appeared to be little difference in
policy between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi. "Either way we are going
to be dealing with an Iranian regime that has historically been
hostile to the United States," he said.

Washington cut diplomatic relations with Iran in 1980, after
the revolution in which students occupied the U.S. Embassy in
Tehran and held 52 U.S. citizens hostage for 444 days.

The United States and its European allies have found
Ahmadinejad implacable in asserting Iran's right to enrich
uranium, a programme that Iran says is purely peaceful but that
they fear could be used to make a nuclear bomb.
Ahmadinejad indicated on Sunday that there would be no
change in nuclear policy during his second term, saying the
issue "belongs in the past".
(Additional reporting by Parisa Hafezi, Hashem Kalantari and
Hossein Jaseb in Tehran; Writing by Peter Millership; Editing by
Giles Elgood)

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Big crowd gathers for pro-Mousavi rally in Tehran

TEHRAN, June 17 (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of supporters
of defeated presidential candidate Mirhossein Mousavi gathered
in downtown Tehran on Wednesday for a fifth day of protests
against last week's election, witnesses said.

Mainly dressed in black and also wearing wristbands and
headbands in Mousavi's green campaign colours, they assembled in
Haft-e Tir square and streets around it, the witnesses said.
Most of the protesters were silent and making victory signs.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:30 schreef Chooselife het volgende:

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Ja, 2 screenshots met bewerkelijke balkjes. Ik denk dat we nu allemaal steil achterover slaan van schrik.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:30 schreef Chooselife het volgende:

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Ja, 2 screenshots met bewerkelijke balkjes. Ik denk dat we nu allemaal steil achterover slaan van schrik.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 15:59 schreef Ps2K het volgende:
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McCain calls for an end to protests after consulting with internet poster Chooselife.

Presidential candidate John McCain has called for an end to nation-wide protests after last week's disputed elections. Riots had broken out after Barack Obama's overwhelming record-margin win was announced before polls had even closed. Barack Obama took hardcore red states and even McCain's hometown Phoenix by the same margins as he took blue states, San Fransisco and Blackville, Louisiana. This seemingly unrealistic result caused massive riots, but after internet posters Chooselife and NorthernStar had a chat with mister McCain last evening, the senator was convinced that the election was probably fair after all.
"It looked a little suspicious", said the man who was put in government quarantine before results were even announced, "but as Chooselife, NorthernStar and Tevik have told me: he won, get over it, there is no proof whatsoever to suggest otherwise, not even the proof that's already been posted a million times. So I am hereby calling on my supporters to stop the protests and obey mister Obama for the next four years. And to stop watching soap operas."

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:34 schreef ZoKanIkHetOok het volgende:

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Geen enkel bewijs is goed genoeg voor je, he.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:33 schreef Sturmvogel het volgende:

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Blijf je dit topic nou de hele dag bevuilen met je achterlijke posts? Misschien kun je ergens anders een eigen topic openen voor de mensen die wel interesse hebben in jouw zielige kutverhaaltjes, hier is dat namelijk niet bepaald het geval.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:54 schreef ZoKanIkHetOok het volgende:

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:08 schreef IHVK het volgende:

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Ok, ik zal mezelf verwijderen.
Vaarwel.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 16:57 schreef Chooselife het volgende:

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Interesseert me geen fuck wat jij ervan vindt. Hier in Nederland hebben we vrijheid van meningsuiting. Wen er maar aan!

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 17:04 schreef Montov het volgende:

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Beetje jammer dat je mijn post ook hebt verwijderd, terwijl ik de eerste was met de foto.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 17:05 schreef wikwakka2 het volgende:

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Dat betekent natuurlijk niet dat jouw constante gedram niet vervelend is.

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Op woensdag 17 juni 2009 17:24 schreef k_man het volgende:

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Hoe zeer je het ook eens bent met de demonstranten, een dergelijk aantal lijkt me echt onmogelijk.

Neem Azadi Square. Dat is één van de grootste pleinen ter wereld, namelijk zo'n 50.000 m2. Als je echt goed je best doet kun je misschien 2 à 3 mensen per m2 neerzetten. Op dat plein kunnen dus zo'n 125.000 mensen staan en dan staat het net zo afgeladen vol als op die foto's van Imam Square in Esfahan. Voor 3 miljoen mensen heb je dus 24 van zulke pleinen nodig.

Als er in Teheran echt 3 miljoen mensen tegelijk aan het demonstreren zouden zijn, zou elke straat in het volledige centrum van de stad propvol met mensen staan.