Machthebbers in Iran beschuldigd van verkiezingsfraude

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Op zaterdag 13 juni 2009 14:36 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Ik ben benieuwd of deze verkiezingen een staartje gaan hebben. Het wordt namelijk eens tijd dat er een keer wordt afgerekend met dat Iraanse regime. Iets als dit kan die vonk in een kruitvat worden.

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Op zaterdag 13 juni 2009 14:51 schreef Picchia het volgende:

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Als ze zich niet zouden bezigen met nucleaire wapens dan zou er ook niets aan de hand zijn.

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Op zaterdag 13 juni 2009 14:48 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Je praat wel erg relativerend over een regime die met geweld fundamentalistische geloofsregels aan zijn bevolking oplegt.

Theocratie is een zeer verwerpelijke staatsvorm en ik gun iedere persoon zijn eigen levensinvulling.

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Op zaterdag 13 juni 2009 15:35 schreef Picchia het volgende:

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Ik kan best begrijpen dat je de inval van Irak onterecht vond, net als ik. En ik begrijp dat het een poging tot intimidatie naar Iran is. Er zijn wel aardige redenen om het beleid van de VS af te keuren. Maar dat vind ik eigenlijk niet echt voldoende reden om een nucleair wapenarsenaal voor iran te rechtvaardigen. Ten eerste is namelijk een vreselijk middel dat enkel gebruikt kan worden om druk uit te oefenen op andere landen of andere landen aan te tasten. Zelfs wanneer het niet daadwerkelijk toegepast wordt. Verdere verspreiding van zulke middelen lijken me echt absoluut onwenselijk. En ten tweede vormt de VS in principe ook geen serieuze bedreiging voor een Iran zonder zo'n arsenaal, dan ontbreekt immers de motivatie en de middelen.

Ik vind het dus niet zo heel vreemd dat men van Iran verwacht dat zij zich daar niet op richten en openheid wat betreft hun nucleaire programma eisen.

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But please pay attention to the fact that the Zionists are not Jewish people. They have no religion. They have no religion. They're neither Jews nor Christians nor Muslims. They just have -- wear masks of religiosity. How can you possibly be religious and occupy the land of other people? How can you call yourself a religious person and kill women and children?

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NYT: On another subject, you are a Persian; you are not an Arab. Your country has never directly at least fought a war with Israel, and yet you seem obsessed by the Jews. Why?

President Ahmadinejad: We have nothing to do with their business at all. Jewish people live in Iran; they have lived there historically. They have a representative in our Parliament. Although there are only 20,000 people, they still have one representative in Parliament. Whereas for the rest of the population you have a minimum requirement of 150,000 people to have one representative. So the Jewish people are treated just like everyone else, like the Christians and the Muslims and the Zoroastrians. They are respected. Everyone is respected.

The question is really over Zionism. Zionism is not Judaism. It is a political party. It is a very secretive political party, which is the root cause of insecurity and wars. For 60 years in our region people have been killed, they have been threatened for 60 years, they have been aggressed upon for 60 years. Several large wars have occurred. A large number of territories there are occupied. More than five million people have been displaced and become refugees. Women and children are attacked in their own homes. They demolish homes over the heads of women and children with bulldozer, in their own house, in their own homeland. These are not crimes that one can shut ones eyes to. We disagree with these criminal acts and we announce it loud and clear. The anger of the U.S. government does not prevent us from saying loud and clear what we think about these acts. As long as these crimes are not rooted out we will continue voicing our concern.

I am surprised that in your media there is hardly any attention to the human rights crimes committed by the Zionist regime, nor to the ongoing crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq. NATO troops went to Afghanistan to establish security, but the just expanded insecurity. Terrorism has increased. The production of illicit drugs has multiplied. Some days there are 10 people killed, some days there are 100 people killed. Sometimes wedding ceremonies are bombarded and insecurity has now affected Pakistan as well. In the process of occupying Iraq over one million people have been killed, a lot of women and children, several million people have been displaced. Is there enough forces in America to represent those innocents who have been deprived of their rights innocently those countries?

There are seven billion people living on this planet, close to 200 countries. Why is it that politicians here in the United States only rise to defend the Zionists? What commitment forces the U.S. government to victimize itself in support of a regime that is basically a criminal one? We can't understand it. When human rights are violated in Abu Ghraib or Guantánamo, how come there is just not enough attention given to it? In a lot of countries that are friends of the United States there are vast human rights violations. Human rights has become completely politicized with multiple standards that apply to different parts of the world. I would like to repeat myself: People in Iran like their government. You will see in the election.

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PELLEY: Sir, what were you thinking? The World Trade Center site is the most sensitive place in the American heart, and you must have known that visiting there would be insulting to many, many Americans.

AHMADINEJAD: Why should it be insulting?

PELLEY: Well, sir, you're the head of government of an Islamist state that the United States government says is a major exporter of terrorism around the world.

AHMADINEJAD: Well, I wouldn't say that what the American government says is the prerequisite here. Something happened there which led to other events. Many innocent people were killed there. Some of those people were American citizens obviously. We obviously are very much against any terrorist action and any killing. And also we are very much against any plots to sow the seeds of discord among nations. Usually you go to these sites to pay your respects. And also to perhaps air your views about the root causes of such incidents. I think that when I do that, I will be paying, as I said earlier, my respect to the American nation.

PELLEY: But the American people, sir, believe that your country is a terrorist nation, exporting terrorism in the world. You must have known that visiting the World Trade Center site would infuriate many Americans, as if to be mocking the American people.

AHMADINEJAD: Well, I'm amazed. How can you speak for the whole of the American nation?

PELLEY: Well, the American nation . . .

AHMADINEJAD: . . . you are representing a media and you're a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there. I would like to think that the points of view of the American people is very close to the points of view of the Iranian people. The American people are very much against and opposed what certain American officials are saying and their points of view. And they're also, the way that the people have voted in the American elections is very telling. And we are criticizing such behavior on the part of the American government. We believe that if anyone just allows himself to accuse others, there will be no possibility for peace and friendship.

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Op zaterdag 13 juni 2009 16:36 schreef AryaMehr het volgende:

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Je weet echt niks van het land he?