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quote:
Op vrijdag 9 oktober 2009 12:32 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power
Spijtig genoeg zal de mens pas leren als hij met zijn gezicht tegen een muur knalt ...
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
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After I had written my previous post and crossposted it at several forums, I wanted the check the news about this moon impact so I want to space daily and guess what:

I wrote:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14
unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.



The crater in the center of this image was formed by Apollo 14's Saturn IVB booster. The booster was intentionally impacted into the lunar surface on Feb. 4, 1971. The impact caused a minor "moonquake" that scientists used to learn about the moon's interior structure. Seismometers placed on the surface by Apollo astronauts returned data on the tremor.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

next in line of thought would be that the Tunguska event and the Apollo 11 first humans on the moon would show a related event in this 'communication' that is taking place, with the first humans on the moon at Phi point.

We talk about April 13-14, 2007:

A NASA Review Board finds that the Mars Global Surveyor stopped working in November 2006 due to computer programming errors.

The Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) was a US spacecraft developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and launched November 1996. It began the United States's return to Mars after a 10-year absence. It completed its primary mission in January 2001 and was in its third extended mission phase when, on November 2, 2006, the spacecraft failed to respond to messages and commands. A faint signal was detected three days later which indicated that the craft had gone into safe mode. All attempts to recontact the Mars Global Surveyor and resolve the problem failed. In January 2007 NASA officially ended the mission.

Mars Global Surveyor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Global_Surveyor

Panel Says Computer Error Felled Mars Orbiter

Published: April 14, 2007

Although it circled Mars longer than any other spacecraft, the Mars Global Surveyor did not die a death of old age last November, a review board assembled by NASA announced yesterday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/14/science/space/14mars.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

The Mars Global Surveyor was taken out by Design with Earth around the same orbital position as during the launch, 10 years apart. Launched on November 7, 1996, last received message November 5, 2006.

Tunguska - humans on moon - loss of Mars Global Surveyor

the message should be clear: we must NOT go to Mars
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9

and here it is:

BBC mainstream:

Asteroid collision 'less likely'

8 October 2009

Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm

linked to this article at the same page:

Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.

"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."

Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.

California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.

In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.

from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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There's something with this moon impact that needs further explanation.

I think you better read the previous posts again before you continue to read this posts, but of course you can do that later.

I have written about the Pi expression with the Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission with this Moon - Earth transit as marker, the signifigance of this Moon -Earth transit, wich was in fact 'artificial' as it was caught on camera by the Deep Impact/ Epoxi spaceship.

I wrote about the October 9 Moon Impact:
quote:
First thought in relation to this Impact on the moon is of course the Deep Impact on comet Templ I on July 4, 2005.

July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
http://www.spectrum.ieee.(...)own-the-inside-story
Sources: Navy to shoot down failed satellite Thursday February 21
http://www.cnn.com/2008/T(...)intercept/index.html
So we have 3 impacts in space, all manmade: Temple I, satellite and Moon.

expressing the Golden Mean Phi

So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission.

It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'.

This lunar impact is intelligently determined

the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.

If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.

NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.
Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean.

a few day later I added:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
later I found out that there has been an actual Impact on the moon too
during that timeframe, on February 4, 1971!
quote:
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon.
so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:

Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I

and

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.

I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.

However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.

If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.

Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.

Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.

Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation.
quote:
July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
At this point I became very curious about this satellite shootdown again and I decided to check the enterprisemission of Richard Hoagland because he´s into this Hyper Dimensional Physics research aswell.
Unlike Hoaglands work, HDDesign is about applied HD ´elements´on our perception of time while Richard Hoagland has a completely diffrent approach.

Anyway, I checked his said yesterday and found what I was looking for:

Richard writes in his article `The Baffling NRO Satellite Shoot-Down … an In-Depth Enterprise Analysis`:

In this new article, however, we present additional technical and political information, crucial now for understanding why the preceding “official satellite story” may, in fact, have been nothing more than an elaborate, government charade all along -- designed to cover the real reasons for the “sudden, urgent shoot-down.”

°°snip°°

This involved the critical modification, again on an unprecedented crash basis, of three standard “SM-3 missiles” – converting them from their intended “anti-ballistic missile interception capability” to a very different “satellite interception mode.” Also created in record time was a tactical “shoot-down plan” (below) – forced by events to intercept and “kill” USA 193 within the most difficult technical “window” imaginable -- just before reentry (so the resulting impact debris and hydrazine would quickly burn up in the Earth’s upper atmosphere …).

~~snip~~

All in all, a pretty complete picture of “what” was coming back to Earth … and “why.”

But, nothing to shed light on the increasingly puzzling, ever more urgent mystery: “why was everyone in the US military establishment suddenly so worried about this satellite … and now?”

Knowing that “what goes up into low Earth orbit … must eventually come down,” why had the NRO, the Pentagon and White House WAITED over a year … before they suddenly became “all hot and bothered” by the imminent reentry of USA-193, now projected for “sometime in late February/early March, 2008?”

And—

Why hadn’t anyone informed them of the “~1000 pounds of hydrazine on board” -- inevitably coming (uncontrollably!) back to Earth -- when they first lost their satellite control, back in 2006?!

Even with all this supporting technical detail, “something” about this entire "falling satellite story" just didn’t … ring right.

~~snip~~

And all of which still didn’t begin to address the “sudden, almost panicked urgency” for shooting down this satellite … and in the face of serious, quantifiable risks to known humans (the ISS crew …) -- after over a year of everyone previously simply ignoring 193’s inevitable return … along with its “~1000 pounds of hydrazine.”

~~snip~~

“The Lie is Different … at Every Level.”

From the full spectrum of the mainstream analysis presented here, it should be clear at this point that the baffling “shoot-down” of NRO 193 has fully lived up to this revealing intel motto: because, in the final analysis, no one seems to have a clue as to the real reason for the inexplicable, contradictory White House/Pentagon/NASA actions or pronouncements over this extraordinary incident.

But, there is a reason for this ... a startling, ritual reason!

And, as we shall see in Part II, there is far more lurking behind this “inexplicable satellite emergency” than has been admitted by anyone so far -- by either the White House ... the Pentagon—

Or NASA.

And … surprise, surprise … it involves the Moon.

~~
I recommend to read thw whole article here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/satellite-shoot-analysis.htm

Richard goes on:
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What caught our eye was not so much the real-world political implications of this technological muscle flexing, but rather the strange and ritualistic pattern under which it was being carried out.


The satellite shootdown was carried out during a total lunar eclipse
read article here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hdtest.htm

Part II of his artcle has yet to be published.

So with this ´disappointing´ lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 and this satellite shootdown NASA is Intelligently interdimensionally communicating!
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 21 oktober 2009 @ 23:45:25 #106
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Wat is dit voor topic? Niet eens een normale Nederlandse OP en alleen maar nietszeggende gekopieerde lappen Engelse tekst? Doe een een voorspelling dan dan controleren wij of het uitkomt. (ofzoiets blijkbaar kun je voorspellen)
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  donderdag 22 oktober 2009 @ 09:07:34 #107
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quote:
Op woensdag 21 oktober 2009 23:45 schreef -jos- het volgende:
Wat is dit voor topic? Niet eens een normale Nederlandse OP en alleen maar nietszeggende gekopieerde lappen Engelse tekst? Doe een een voorspelling dan dan controleren wij of het uitkomt. (ofzoiets blijkbaar kun je voorspellen)
Is je blow verkeerd gevallen?
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"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
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Hyper Dimensional Design at Hyves.

I am going to use this Hyve to post messages with expectations for specific future dates

http://dutch-hddesign.hyves.nl/
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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I wrote:

"Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean."

"
so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:

Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I

and

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.

I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.

However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.

If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.

Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.

Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.

Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation. "

and on October 10 I wrote:
quote:
[quote]Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9

and here it is:

BBC mainstream:

Asteroid collision 'less likely'

8 October 2009

Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm

linked to this article at the same page:

Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.

"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."

Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.

California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.

In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.

from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm[/quote]]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm[/quote][/url]

So I have been expecting such a confirmation around October 9, but look what actually has happened on October 8, 2009, I just came to know about today october27:

It has been posted today by member 'Dreemz' on HDDesign forum:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.

Scientists are concerned that it was not spotted by any telescopes, and that had it been larger it could have caused a disaster.

The asteroid, estimated to have been around 10 metres (30ft) across, hit the atmosphere at an estimated 45,000mph. The sudden deceleration caused it to heat up rapidly and explode with the force of 50,000 tons of TNT.

Luckily, due to the height of the explosion – estimated at between 15 and 20 km (nine to 12 miles) above sea level – no damage was caused on the ground.

However, if the object had been slightly larger – 20 to 30 metres (60 to 90ft) across – it could easily have caused extensive damage and loss of life, say researchers.

=snip=

An asteroid or comet fragment around 60 meters across is believed to have been behind the Tunguska Event, a powerful explosion that took place over Russia in 1908. The blast has been estimated at equivalent to 10-15 million tons of TNT – enough to destroy a large city.

The White House is to develop a policy on the space object impact threat by October next year.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)Earths-defences.html

I cannot emphasize enough that this is confirmative to what I have been expecting to happen around October 9!!!!!
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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from the timeline:
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October 29, 2009 - ongoing 911 based 'control' pattern assassination Pim Fortuyn - Theo van Gogh - Barack Obama placed under very early protection of the secret service. Peter R. de Vries and Geert wilders beware
I wrote on October 22, 2008:

"When Pim fortuyn was assassinated, it was a high profile event. He could have been the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands if he wasn't assassinated just prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002.

I was not aware of any underlying patterns at that time. That changed when Theo van Gogh was killed 911 days later on November 2, 2004.

These two people had alot in common, representatives of 'ultimate freedom', Theo with his freedom of speech and Pim with his remarkable political point of view. However, both were also much 'involved' in ethic and even racial 'issues' , bringing the differences and problem between the native Dutch people and foreigners/muslims to the attention.

I started to monitor the Phi based spiral of which these 2 assassinations could be considered to be 'expressions', unaware of the deeper meaning in the beginning.

Seperate from this Phi based spiral I have been monitoring a timecoded pattern that came to be known as the 'Balkan karma Venus Based' pattern, originally linked to the Srebrenica Massacre back in July 1995.

Continued monitoring of these initially seperated patterns ingreased my understanding of the hidden underlying themes that were expressed on these patterns and it became clear , at least to me, that both these pattern were 'karmic' related to the Srebrenica massacre and all its implications.

The people in Srebrenica were protected by Dutch soldiers in an UN safe haven. We prommissed these people to protect them. We told these people to come to Srebrenica because it would be safe. The United Nations would make sure that these people would be safe.

When the Sebs started to attack the enclave, it was decided that the Dutch soldiers would not protect these people at all costs, in a sense when it became clear that it would take Dutch casualties, the Ducth soldiers surrended to Mladic.

The Dutch military stated that it became impossible to protect Srebrenica after air support was refused. Several request for air support in order to take out Serbian tanks were declined.

As a result, the man and boys in Srebrenica were seperated from their wives and daughters and were shot to death with a few in a row at the time, until more than 8000 muslim boys and men were slaughtered.

This all happened under the formal protection of the United Nations.

It was the worst crime against humanity and the biggest massacre in Europe since WW II and it was allowed to happen despite the fact that we free people as representatives of the UN should have done everything to protect these people.

We all have a responsibility in relations to this, although most will deny it.

I began to understand that this responsibilty was finding expression on these determined timeframes on this Phi based spiral in Dutch society, of which the asassinations of Pim and Theo were part of.

It must be clear that it was not The Netherlands that refused the air support, the patterns unveiled, at least to me, that the US government was in fact responsible.

During the predetermined timeframes on these patterns several events materialized that are in fact unveiling the hidden underlying truth about the responsibilities for the Srebrenica massacre.

Milosevic was taken out by Design, Tolimir arrested, The Dutch gouvernment fell and sued, Obama security issues and lots of more, logged 'realtime' in the 2 thread specifically dedicated to these 2 patterns.

You cannot understand this if you don't try to see the bigger picture of the events that took place during the predetermined dates of these patterns.

The next dates are given, I expect expressions that will make clear the we trully are responsible for what has happened in Srebrenica in July 1995."
quote:
As said numerous times before:

This 911 Golden Mean based timecoded spiral in Dutch society is in fact linked to 'Srebrenica Karma'

I have been identifying and monitoring it here, during the last couple of years:

911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html
Balkan Karma Venus based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about4-hddesign.html

First identified event on this timecoded spiral was the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and this HDDesign 'research' shows that this was in fact a karmic expression related to the Srebrenica massacre.

Venus based indeed:

Srebrenica July 11, 1995 - September 1, 2009 = timeframe of 5.167 days

or Venus at the same orbital position

5.167 / 224.68 ( Venus year in Earth days ) = 23

This development emerges, true or not, its hitting the timecoded pattern:

Pim Fortuyn was killed by a second shooter!

Actrice Ine Veen has written a book based on a scret report ( that's what she claims ) in which she stated that indeed Volkert van de Graaf did shoot 3 bullets at Pim Fortuyn ( 2 in his back, one in his neck), but that Pim Fortuyn was already killed by 2 bullets in his head fired by a second shooter from on top a nearby building.

The Dutch secret service AIVD would know about these 2 kinds of ammunition. The book is called "killed by the Crown".
[url=http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html
]http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html[/quote][/url]

I have written about the correlation between the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF striker fighter.
Prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002, in became clear that Pim Fortuyn would probably win these elections so he could even become the next Prime Minister of The Netherlands.

During the weeks prior to the assassination Pim changed his mind about the JSF. First he supported the JSF but a few weeks prior to the election he said that Netherlands shouldn't buy the JSF. He became an opponent of the JSF.

If he had lived during the elections, he would have won and we wouldn't go on with the JSF.

Pim was assassinated just prior to the elections and his part won indeed.

His successor Mat Herben didn't became PM but he was involved forming the next gouvernment of the Netherlands. Mat Herrben's first political action was to give his approval to the JSF, exactly the opposite of how Pim would have wanted it.

Its amazing that this has happened while nobody seems to care less.

As this HDDesign 'research' has shown repeatedly, the JSF issue regularly shows up on the patterns related to Pim Fortuyn.

So today we are again in a timeframe related to the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF is getting momentum.....again!

'JSF mogelijk nog duurder'
JSF more expensive because the GB wants to ordr less JSF's
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/2110629/jsf-mogelijk-nog-duurder.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


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Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

<==========> <=========>

With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
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"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Nou ben ik een near native speaker als het om Engels gaat, maar hier kan ik echt geen kaas van maken.
Kan iemand dit nader verklaren/toelichten?
quote:
The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.
The Rated-R Era ... A Decade of Decadence
Mr. Prolapse 2009
  maandag 9 november 2009 @ 17:04:45 #113
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_74546017
quote:
Op vrijdag 6 november 2009 14:12 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
Nou ben ik een near native speaker als het om Engels gaat, maar hier kan ik echt geen kaas van maken.
Kan iemand dit nader verklaren/toelichten?
[..]
Dat is toch niet zo moelijk? Tijd is 3d, (in tegenstelling tot wat het gros van de mensheid denkt (nl 1d) (ik denk dat dutch denkt dat tijd ook diepte heeft, mogelijk zodat er meerdere tijdstromen tegelijkertijd naast elkaar bewegen) maar tijd is niet 3d, tijd is 4d, dus niet alleen met diepte, hoogte en lengte, maar ook een 4de demensie, nl.... tijd!
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74556312
Dutch, wat is 'tijd' voor jou? Geloof je dat 'tijd' bestaat?
Have fun...
pi_74556560
quote:
Op vrijdag 6 november 2009 13:23 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============>[ afbeelding ]<============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?
*knip*
Eindelijk een keer een uitleg waar ik wat aan heb . Nu begrijp ik een stuk beter wat je bedoelt
Have fun...
  dinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 15:41:58 #116
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_74575414
Dutch, weet je zeker dat 6/11 geen triggerdate was?
lijkt mij toch dat DIT toch wel een waarschuwing van formaat is....
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74586396
Was er niet ook iets neergekomen in Indonesië de laatste dagen??
Have fun...
  dinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 22:31:31 #118
34573 Neutrino
Dead cat bounce
pi_74588474
Wanneer is de echo van het uitsterven van de Dinosauriërs te verwachten. En wat te denken van de echo van het Tungaska incident.

De vraag is echter of oorzaak en gevolg überhaupt wel de juiste volgorde hebben. Soms kan er immers een gevolg zijn waarna de oorzaak zich zal manifesteren.
Sell in may and go away. Forget it, we are here to stay.
pi_74597400
quote:
Op dinsdag 10 november 2009 21:39 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Was er niet ook iets neergekomen in Indonesië de laatste dagen??
Ja dat was op 8 october ( zie mijn vorige post ) en recentelijk was er weer een incident.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_74598130
quote:
Op dinsdag 10 november 2009 15:41 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Dutch, weet je zeker dat 6/11 geen triggerdate was?
lijkt mij toch dat DIT toch wel een waarschuwing van formaat is....
Waar ik alert op ben is 'communicatie' in deze post-maan impact periode in relatie tot Tunguska.

Er is een theorie dat de Tunguska impact was in feite een inslag was van een fragment van komeet Encke .

Ik ben even snel wat gedachten aan het loggen hier want ik heb het druk op het werk, dus verontschuldiging als de verbanden niet duidelijk zijn, maar de 'communicatie' rond tunguska lijkt sterk geassocieerd met Enki symboliek ( Sumerie/ oude kennis) Tunguska IS Enki symboliek en deze 'near miss' komt tot ons bewustzijn op 10 November. Ik ben dan alert op Enki symboliek rond dit soort gebeurtenissen en nu blijkt dat de keeper van het Duitse nationale team gisteren zelfmoord heeft gepleegd: Robert Enke.
quote:
Germany and Hannover 96 goalkeeper Robert Enke has died after being hit by a train in an apparent suicide on Tuesday, police have confirmed.
Jaren terug heeft ooit een lezer eens gezegd over dit HDDesign materiaal: "What Dutch is doing, is like Enki talking to a wall".

Voor mij persoonlijk lijken deze gebeurtenissen in combinatie met het HDDesign materiaal van deze periode aan te geven dat het negeren van de 'waarschuwingen' uiteindelijk neer komt op anihilatie, wij zijn in staat om onszelf te vernietigen, dat is in potentie aanwezig.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 11 november 2009 @ 12:17:18 #121
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_74600510
Je weet dat ik "nogal" sceptisch ben... maar dit geeft me wel rillingen... (tot op zekere hoogte dan he ;-) )
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74601548
Ik was in het begin ook erg sceptisch, maar nu ik meer begrijp van hoe dutch het doet en ik nu zijn posts kan lezen zodat ik ook begrijp wat hij zegt zijn er wel een hoop 'toevalligheden' .

Dutch, hoe onderscheid je communicatie van niet-communicatie?
Have fun...
pi_74617448
Onbekende planetoïde scheerde langs de aarde
Uitgegeven: 10 november 2009 09:45
Laatst gewijzigd: 10 november 2009 09:44

AMSTERDAM - Vrijdag 6 november is onverwachts een kleine planetoïde langs de aarde gescheerd. Het naar schatting slechts zeven meter grote brok ruimtesteen, dat de aanduiding 2009 VA heeft gekregen, miste het aardoppervlak op ongeveer 14.000 kilometer.

Daarmee was het, voor zover bekend, de op twee na dichtste nadering van een planetoïde die niet op aarde is neergestort. Alleen in 2004 en 2008 vonden niptere missers plaats.

Gemiddeld komen er ongeveer twee van zulke kleine planetoïden dicht langs de aarde, en eens in de vijf jaar ploffen de restanten van zo'n object op het aardoppervlak.

http://www.nu.nl/wetensch(...)rde-langs-aarde.html

10 november
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quote:
Op maandag 9 november 2009 22:02 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Dutch, wat is 'tijd' voor jou? Geloof je dat 'tijd' bestaat?
Ons normale begrip van tijd is gekoppeld aan de 3 dimensies ( of 4 = tijd) waarin we ons bewustzijn ervaren. Buiten deze dimensies is het begrip tijd irrelevant en ons lineaire tijdsbegrip beperkt ons vermogen om causaliteit te begrijpen. Wij zijn waarschijnlijk niet in staat om 'onze tijd' te manipuleren ( daarom laat er altijd wel een vogeltje een stukje brood in de LHC vallen ) maar ik denk dat het van buitenaf wel mogelijk is, vanuit andere dimensies. ( even los van wat dat allemaal impliceert.)

De Tungaska gebeurtenis is zo'n voorbeeld
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_74618644
quote:
Dutch, hoe onderscheid je communicatie van niet-communicatie?
Als het onderliggende Intelligente ontwerp in tegenspraak is met ons lineaire tijdsbegrip beschouw ik dit als inkomende communicatie, voornamelijk uitgedrukt door gebeurtenissen in ons zonnestelsel en de rest van het universum in interactie met de aarde. Ook 'out of the blue' gebeurtenissen en synchroniteiten kunnen een vorm van communicatie zijn, vooral als deze gebeurtenissen tot 'onthulling' leiden, zoals bv 9/11.
Het meeste wat in onze realiteit gebeurd is echter gewone 'karmische' expressie van ons ( collectieve) bewustzijn.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_74657712
As you can verify with the next two reposts, I expected related info to crime reporter Peter R. de Vries and criminal / Heineken kidnapper Cor van Hout for the current timeframe and around October 29.

first the 2 reposts:

1:
quote:
reposted on other forums with hddesign threads:

Psychic Peter van der Hurk expects assaults on Peter R. de Vries and Geert Wilders, as published in a Dutch newspaper the other day:

zo 28 dec 2008, 19:23 'In 2009 aanslag op Peter R. de Vries!'
http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)ries____.html?p=27,2

I posted after I read this:

[quote]had to think of 911 and Fortuyn - Van Gogh....

Assassination of Fortuyn +911 days = assassination of Van Gogh

+ 911 days gives May 2, 2007

from the timeline first half 2007:

May 2, 2007 - Golden Mean Phi based 'Srebrenica karma'. Washington.link.
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali threathened in the US, heavy security/protection needed
Press review: 'Fall of the sun king'
http://www.cnn.com/2007/BUSINESS/05/02/browne.press/index.html
Obama placed under Secret Service protection
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rotection/index.html
Melkert, Volkert, Wolfowitz, analysis will follow
note that this 'Srebrenica' karma was linked to the monitored 911 based Phi spiral in 'Dutch society', which expired in November 2008.

the 911 based 'control' pattern is still ongoing, coinciding with the spiral on May 2, 2007 and giving a new key date around October 29, 2009

also note that Geert Wilders was also linked to this spiral

I expected a 'confirmation' in relation to Peter R. de Vries and Cor van Hout. I have posted related issues about this back in 2005 already and I thought this stuf wasn't online anymore. Just recently I found it again on a forum and I reposted it on HDDesign forum.

the 'confirmation':
quote:
around October 29, 2009 Venus will be at the same orbital position again as during the assassination of Cor van Hout!

11 Venus Years in Earth days

assassination of Cor van Hout: January 24, 2003
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cor_van_Hout

11 * 224.68 = 2.471 days later:

October 30, 2009
related thread, with info from 2005, triggerdates and backgrounds:
Natalee Holloway - Peter R. de Vries
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about327-hddesign.html

Today I have posted this:

Peter R. de Vries has been molested today ( saturday 24 januari 2009) by ( ex) criminal Steve Brown:

Peter R. de Vries aangevallen in auto

AMSTERDAM - Tv-programmamaker Peter R. de Vries is zaterdag gewond geraakt toen hij in zijn auto werd aangevallen door Steve Brown, een voormalig drugshandelaar met wie hij al jaren overhoop ligt. De Vries heeft dat zaterdag laten weten.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)in_auto__.html?p=1,1

This was the second time Steve Brown and Peter de Vries had a fight.
On June 21, 2007 Brown kicked Peter at the melkweg in Amsterdam, there's a video available online

June 21 +/- 1 day has been mentioned here in this thread:
quote:
On or around 22 June 2005 it is 911 days ago since the assassination attack on XXXXX. With this information in your mind it can be that if indeed something would happen the impact would be low because of the fact that you are informed and aware of the underlying patterns and symbolism"
Earth at same orbital position

also:

Mercury 'The Messenger' is at the same orbital position on January 24, 2009 ( second attack) as during the 911 based starttriggerdate of June 21, 2007, the day of the first attack.

June 21, 2007

here:



OMG!

this whole thread (at HDDesign forum) is initially based on the assassination of Heineken kidnapper Cor van Hout and the correlations with Peter R de Vries

Peter was assaulted by Steve Brown last Saturday on January 24, 2009


COR VAN HOUT WAS ASSASSINATED ON JANUARY 24, 2003 !!!!!!
quote:
it can be that if indeed something would happen the impact would be low because of the fact that you are informed and aware of the underlying patterns and symbolism
That's the difference between an assassination or a kick on your ass...

Cor van Hout was assassinated on January 24, 2003 in Amstelveen after a visit to a chinese restaurant. A friend of him who stood next to him was shot too and died a few days later. Prior to his death there have been 2 other assassination attempts:

On March 27, 1996 Cor was shot in his car. When he arrived at his house, his son wanted to listen to a song on the radio so they didn't get out of the car. The killer hestitated but decided to shoot Cor while he was still in the car. Cor was hit several times but he survived.

The second attempt was on December 21, 2000. Somebody tried to shoot Cor and his body guard with a longdistance riffle, but he missed.

During the second attempt Mercury 'The Messenger' was at the same orbital position as during the awakenings starttriggerdate of the first attempt, while Mercury 'The Messenger' was during the final assassination at the same orbital position as during the 911 based control endtriggerdate of the first attempt

So all 3 events are connected by Mercury based on the HDdesign triggerdate system.[/quote]

Its around october 29:

Zestien jaar geëist voor liquidatie kroegbaas AMSTERDAM - Advocaat-generaal Cynthia de Jong heeft maandag voor het gerechtshof in Amsterdam zestien jaar cel geëist tegen de 28-jarige Dwight S. en de 23-jarige Remy H., wegens de liquidatie van de Amsterdamse kroegbaas Thomas van der Bijl. Deze werd op 20 april 2006 in zijn café in Amsterdam-West doodgeschoten.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)egbaas__.html?p=19,2

The timing implies that those behind the assaassination of van der Bijl, are the same people who are responsible for the killing of Cor van Hout!!!!!

and repost 2:
quote:
« on: May 19, 2005, 02:07:25 PM »

I have chosen to post this on Cloud Cover because I don't feel at ease with this information completely out in the open.

The following has been on my mind for a while and I didn't know what to do with it ( besides contacting the related person ).

I think I have to 'put' this in some peoples mind in order to avoid undesired things to happen or to downgrade the effects if the anticipated event would take place.

During my research on underlying patterns I have found out something very disturbing.

I expect a 911 related assault could take place in The Netherlands on July 25, 2005. On that day a Dutch celebrety is in danger and he could be killed. It's related to the high impact killings of Pim Fortuyn ( our would have been prime minister) and Theo van Gogh. It's 911 related on the patterns.

My wife actually showed me the way to the pattern when she said something out of he blue while looking at a Pope JP II's death related program early April. On that moment 911 was 'in the air' so to speak as the exit of JP I and JP II are 911 related as I posted elsewhere.
Sometimes my wife 'receives' precognitive info or dreams. The females in her family line are all 'sensitives'.

A few months ealier she already mentioned the importance of the date July 25, 2005 to me but she didn't knew why and I couldn't put my finger on it. While looking at the Pope she clearly received the person's name in question and he really is in danger.

I decided to determine triggerdates in the persons' life ( as he's a celebrety, there's enough info about him online). There has been an important high impact killing in the past and he is significant related to that victim. The 911 related pattern to that killing showed the date July 25, 2005! Symbolically it would be a top level 'Good against Evil' theme in our society.

My wife also warned me to be very carefull with this information because she sensed danger for me too if I wouldn't be cautious. It's the first time ever she said something like that to me.

It's a very famous person in The Netherlands and I decided to contact him. I explained how I came to my conclusions and he decided NOT to disregard my warnings. He will be very cautious on the dates I mentioned ( besides July 25, 2005 there are more dates on the patterns but I have reason to believe July 25 is the day).

I really felt the need to do something with the information and that's why I contacted the person. The man probably gets hundreds of emails a week from lunatics like me, but he will keep it in mind.

Keep this info in mind around July 25, 2005.

If someone feels the need to know the persons name and info about the underlying pattern, you can pm me.
Around November 14, 2009 Venus is at same orbital position again and this timeframe is already mentioned on the timeline Q4 2009:

November 15, 2009 - Hyper Dimensional Cube at macrolevel orientation
Earth's orbital position during end of 911 based timecoded Phi spiral Fortuyn - van Gogh in The Netherlands, 'Srebrenica karma' / de Vries
===============

end of the 2 reposts.

So we talk about the timeframe around November 14, 2009

Yesterday November 12, 2009 it was announced that a suspect was arrested for the assassination attempt on Cor van Hout on March 27, 1996!!!!!!!!!!! It was initially announced by Peter R. de Vries himself and confirmed by the authorities ( article in Dutch ):

do 12 nov 2009

ROTTERDAM - De Nationale Recherche heeft op 12 oktober een verdachte aangehouden van de mislukte liquidatiepoging in maart 1996 op Heinekenontvoerder Cor van Hout. Dat heeft een woordvoerder van het landelijk parket van het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) donderdag gezegd naar aanleiding van berichtgeving van Peter R. de Vries.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)n_Hout__.html?p=26,2

This development in relation the assassination ( attempt ) on Cor van Hout during this timeframe may be coming out of the blue for everyone, but it is confirmative to the pre-determined expectations for this timeframe as posted in the HDDesign material!!

but there's another confirmation, today November 13 2009:

The Heineken kidnappers earned hundreds of thousands on royalties of the book Peter R. de Vries has written about the Heineken kidnap!!!

Its a kind of 'assassination' of Peter de Vries' reputation as independant crimereporter!!!!


vr 13 nov 2009

Peter R. de Vries sloot contract voor 75 procentMisdaadboek loont door John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
AMSTERDAM - De ontvoerders van Freddy Heineken hebben jarenlang het overgrote deel van de royalty's ontvangen voor een bestseller over hun misdrijf.
Het gaat naar schatting om tonnen. Het boek 'De ontvoering van Alfred Heineken' is het best verkochte misdaadboek van de afgelopen decennia. Er zijn bijna 300.000 exemplaren van verkocht.

De verdeling van royalty's blijkt uit een contract dat misdaadjournalist Peter R. de Vries met ontvoerder Cor van Hout sloot toen die samen met Willem Holleeder probeerde te ontkomen aan vervolging. Hij volgde als verslaggever voor De Telegraaf de ontvoerders op hun vlucht voor justitie, maar vertrok bij de krant na het verschijnen van het boek. Hij raakte destijds bevriend met ontvoerder Cor van Hout.

Het contract was al die jaren in bezit van de in 2006 geliquideerde kroegbaas Thomas van der Bijl. Zijn weduwe Carolien Rijke heeft het nu in de openbaarheid gebracht. Zij heeft een geschil met De Vries over de royalty's.

Toestemming

Zij vertelt morgen in De Telegraaf exclusief hoe zij de periode voor en na de liquidatie van haar man heeft meegemaakt. De Vries erkent het bestaan van het contract maar wijst elke claim van haar af.

De Vries kreeg toestemming een boek te schrijven over de ontvoering, mits Van Hout 75 procent van de opbrengsten zou ontvangen. Dat gold ook voor rechten op films, video's en interviews. Dat Van der Bijl deze gelden ontving was een constructie om te voorkomen dat Heineken beslag kon leggen op het boek of de opbrengst.

Volgens De Vries heeft Van der Bijl in 2003 vrijwillig de rechten overgedragen aan de weduwe van de geliquideerde Cor van Hout, Sonja Holleeder, zus van Willem Holleeder. De weduwe van Van der Bijl bestrijdt dat. Zij stelt dat haar partner de rechten in 2001 aan haar verkocht.

De Vries noemt dit opmerkelijk en onwaar: "Uit alles blijkt dat de rechten door Van der Bijl geheel vrijwillig en correct zijn overgedragen."
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)gelukt___.html?p=1,1

Note that Peter R. de Vries has a dispute about these royalties with the widow of the assassinated Thomas vd Bijl!!!!!!!

I wrote above:
quote:
The timing implies that those behind the assaassination of van der Bijl, are the same people who are responsible for the killing of Cor van Hout!!!!!
When I posted my expectations back in January 2009 for these timeframes in October and November I didn't knew ofcourse WHAT would happen, I only identified the underlying themes for these timeframes.

The actual events during these timeframes are a confirmation of these pre determined underlying themes!!!

You can think about HDDesign what you want, but if you fail to see that these event are more than just coincidences, than you have to reconsider it again.

Because it should be obvious.

Again HDDesign shows the unmistaken indications of hidden underlying Design.

THESE ARE NO 'COINCIDENCES' !!!!!!!!!!
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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This is at least the 7th time in a row that this specific orbital position of Venus around November 18, 2009 is showing a 'Srebrenica karma' event, as expected and posted prior to the determined dates on the timelines.

updated on the timeline: the expected and predicted 'Srebrenica karma' expression for November 18, 2009:

New Srebrenica mass grave discovered
The grave is located near the hamlet of Vidikovac, in Srebrenica's surroundings.


November 18, 2009

Remains believed to be those of victims of the Srebrenica massacre were found on Wednesday in a new mass grave located near the eastern Bosnian town, an official quoted by the FENA news agency said.

The grave, measuring 25 by three metres (82 by 10 feet), is "secondary", meaning that the victims' remains were moved there from other sites in a bid to cover up the crime, local prosecutor Fatima Hadzibeganovic said.

Due to the grave's size it is expected to hold a large number of victims, she said, without providing further details.

The grave is located near the hamlet of Vidikovac, in Srebrenica's surroundings.

Bosnian Serb forces killed some 8,000 Muslim men and boys after they overran the then UN-protected enclave on July 11, 1995, perpetrating the worst atrocity in Europe since World War II.

The massacre has been ruled as genocide by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), both based in The Hague.

The remains of thousands of Srebrenica massacre victims have been exhumed over the past years from about 70 mass graves around the ill-fated town, with more than 5,600 people identified by DNA analysis.

The trial before the ICTY of the massacre's alleged mastermind, Bosnian Serb wartime leader Radovan Karadzic, has been adjourned until March next year.

Karadzic was arrested in Belgrade in July 2008 after 13 years on the run.

His military commander Ratko Mladic, also indicted by the ICTY in connection with Srebrenica, remains on the run and is believed to be hiding in Serbia.
http://www.javno.com/en-w(...)ve-discovered_282263

read related info on the timeline of Q4 2009 here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
if you're not registered you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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I have put it on the timeline for Q4 on August 14, 2009:
quote:
Posted: 14 Aug 2009 02:52 pm Post subject:

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new date added:

November 18, 2009 - 'Srebrenica karma', security issue obama

read related info here in this post:
[url=http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7879&mforum=hddesign#7879
]http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7879&mforum=hddesign#7879[/quote][/url]


We have seen this new mass grave discovered as 'Srebrenica karma'expression and here is the expected and predicted 'security issue' for Obama:

Judge frees ex-airport guard accused of Obama threats
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/19/obama.threat/index.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  maandag 7 december 2009 @ 11:56:11 #129
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_75365506
oh-oh, is Dutch in een hyerdemensie kwijt geraakt?
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_75366665
Misschien zijn er geen observaties op dit moment die corresponderen met een eerdere timeline die bijzonder genoeg zijn om te vermelden...

ben wel weer benieuwd naar een update
Have fun...
  dinsdag 8 december 2009 @ 11:40:44 #131
132191 -jos-
Money=Power
pi_75403243
Nou vertel wanneer heb je dit voorspelt:

http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)anslagen-bagdad.html
WEB / [HaxBall #64] Jos is God
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics.
pi_75405809
Tis geen Nostradamus dacht ik toch?
Ware Wijsheid Liefdevolle Vrede
Peaceful Warrior "What are you?" "This Moment"
pi_75507749
quote:
Op dinsdag 8 december 2009 11:40 schreef -jos- het volgende:
Nou vertel wanneer heb je dit voorspelt:

http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)anslagen-bagdad.html
We zitten momenteel nog in de periode van de start van het laatste 1111 dagen 'awakenings timeframe', waarvan de piek rond 8 december ligt: 8 december 2009 - 23 december 2012 = 1111 dagen.

Ik ben nog aan het monitoren en post pas een update als dit tijdsframe voorbij is.

Wel interessant dat je deze aanslag als voorbeeld geeft, ik zie dat altijd als een synchroniteit die wellicht bevestiging geeft van de onderliggende thema's.

In dit geval is 8 december 2009 starttrigger van het awakenings tinmeframe met 23 december 2012 als eindtrigger.

I dacht: 8 december 2009 is op zijn beurd ook eindtrigger met een 1111 dagen awakenings tijdsframe terug in de tijd: met 23 november 2006 als starttrigger.

23 november 2006 - 8 december 2009 = 1111

op die dag 23 november 2006:

A series of car bombs and mortar attacks in Sadr City, Baghdad, kill at least 215 people and injure 257 other people

23 November 2006 Sadr City bombings

The 2006 Sadr City bombings were a series of car bombs and mortar attacks in Iraq that began on 23 November at 15:10 Baghdad time (12:10 Greenwich Mean Time) and ended at 15:55 (12:55 GMT). Six car bombs and two mortar rounds were used in the attack on the Shi'ite Muslim slum in Sadr City.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_November_2006_Sadr_City_bombings

Niet dat aanslagen in Iraq het hoofdthema is, ik zie het meer als additionele bevestiging.

We zitten momenteel in het tijdvak vlak na het Phi punt tussen de sumatra quake/tsunami en het einde van de long count van de Mayan Calender. Er zijn 2 van die Phi punten,'naar binnen' en 'naar buiten' . Deze huidige periode is na het Phi punt 'naar binnen' en laat volgens mij een echo zien van de periode vlak na het Phi punt 'naar binnen', wat plaats vond in januari 2008.

Net als toen, zitten we nu denk ik aan het begin van een economische 'tsunami'.

Ook het hele klimaat gebeuren deze week moet als een wake up call gezien worden ( 1111 ) als starttrigger in relatie tot het eind van de Mayan Calender

updates volgen wellicht volgende week, eerst monitoren. Het 'ruwe' materiaal is altijd 'live' beschikbaar op de tijdslijnen op het HDDesign forum
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  vrijdag 11 december 2009 @ 09:25:05 #134
75447 sir_Tachyon
46 and 2 Just Ahead of Me
pi_75507893
Tenzij dit dagelijkse korst is in Bagdad, sta ik achter Dutch. Het is waar dat daar wel veel gebeurt in dat land maar voor mij is het meer een patroon. Keep em coming Dutch
"The boy blesses whispers into words,
in the painted valleys they await rain"
pi_75514274
het is ook niet het hoofdthema voor dit tijdsframe, ik zie het als een aanvullende bevestiging die dmv een synchroniteit plaats vind. Iemand plaats een opmerking over een zware aanslag in Irak en als ik hetzelfde onderliggende design toepas als waar ik op dat moment mee bezig ben voor dezelfde datum, dan volgt er gelijk 'bevestiging' met een vergelijkbare zware aanslag in Irak. Het is bevestiging van de onderliggende patronen dmv synchroniteiten.


een update:

Waves of Change

So around December 5, 2009 is Phi point between the December 26, 2004 Sumatra Quake / Tsunami and the end of the Mayan Long Count Calender.

Venus is at the same orbital position during the Sumatra quake / tsunami and the end of the Mayan long count:

December 26, 2004 - December 23, 2012 = 2.920 days or

13 Venus Years in Earth days: 13 * 224.68 = 2.920 days

which is also the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times:

June 8, 2004 - June 6, 2012 = 2.920 days or 13 Venus Years in Earth days or 8 Earth years.

Around December 8, 2009 is starttriggerdate of the last 1111 days awakenings timeframe with the end of the Mayan calendar:

December 8, 2009 - December 23, 2012 = 1111 days

I am currently monitoring this timeframe around December 8, 2009, which I think will show and echo of the timeframe just after the other Phi point between the Sumatra quake / tsunami and the end of the Mayan long count around January 16, 2008. This is realted to a financial or economic 'tsunami' and the climate issues as wake up call in elation to the end of the Mayan long count. More on this after the timeframe.

There's something else I want to talk about

we have seen these orbital positions of Venus marking the hidden underlying Design.

Could there be a Venus connection with December 8 too?

With 1111, Phi and Venus, 3 of the most profound elements of HDDesign, I thought that the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron would also show the connectedness, and it does:

December 8, 2009 creates a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with the last Venus Transit of our times on June 6, 2012:

December 8, 2009 - June 6, 2012 = 911 days!

Next in line of thought is to consider December 8, 2009 to be the eventsday in the middle of the 2 times 911 'controll' timeframe as applied in this HDDesign material

June 11, 2007 ---- 911 days----December 8, 2009 ----- 911 days ---Venus Transit June 6, 2012

June 11, 2007 was already on the timeline of the first half 2007, I wrote:
quote:
b]June 10, 2007[/b] - EXACTLY 20 Mercury Years in Earth days after the 911 based starttrigger of the Hariri killing!
UN to vote on Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
the court will come into force on 10 June.
UN approves Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
ongoing 911 based pattern with next Venus Passage June 6, 2012
Mercury 'The Messenger' and Venus in same position as at end of Mayan calender
Second Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon, Ain Hilwa in the south, explodes in violence:
[quote]military sources report Syria has lined up an anti-Lebanese government front of Palestinian and Islamic radicals for an orchestrated campaign of violence to derail the UN Security Council resolution establishing an international tribunal for prosecuting the suspected murderers of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri.
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4271
Israel 'tests' Syria peace aims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6737065.stm
Controversial Hariri court comes into force
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070610/1/494we.html
Syrian and Iranian Generals in Intensive War Consultations
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=article&aid=1279
UN concerned at arms crossing Lebanon-Syria border
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070612/1/4967h.html
quote:
The Security Council on Monday ( June 11 - Dutch) reiterated "deep concern" at mounting reports of "illegal movements of arms" across the Lebanese Syrian-border, amid fears of escalating strife
quote:
"a steady flow of weapons and armed elements across the border from Syria."
quote:
"The information from the government of Lebanon on trafficking of arms and militants across the Syrian-Lebanese border is disturbing"
Assassination of Abu Nidal and fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah:
quote:
Just like 9/11 (September 11, 2001) and Madrid ( March 11, 2004) were connected by a hyper Dimensional tetrahedron: 911 days + events day, the Hariri killing on Hyper Dimensional Cube date February 14, 2005 was connected with another HD Cube date at macrolevel via an Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron: 911 days + events day is HD Cube date August 17, 2002 . On August 17, 2002 Mercury was on the same geometrical position of its orbit as on June 10, 2007 (+/- 1 day).

August 17, 2002 - June 11, 2007 = 1759 days

20 Mercury years in Earth days: 20 times 87.969 = 1759.3 days

The timeframe around August 17, 2002 is to be considered the 911 based 'control' starttriggerdate related to the Hariri killing

The related triggerevent during that timeframe would be the assassination of Abu Nidal on August 16, 2002 in Bagdad, opponent of Arafat's Fatah.
Abu Nidal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Nidal

The Palestinean conflict is part of the evolving war scenario. As a 'coincidence' fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah emerged on the same anticipated timeframe around June 10, 2007

Fatah boycott after Gaza fighting
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6747207.stm
]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6747207.stm[/quote][/url]
Palestinian fighting 'will burn all of us,' official says
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).violence/index.html
Gaza gun battles rage on unabated
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6747841.stm
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same position as during awakenings starttrigger date related to Arafat's death

Disturbing developments:

Lebanese lawmaker killed in Beirut blast
POSTED: 0621 GMT (1421 HKT), June 14, 2007

BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- A member of the Lebanese parliament died in a Beirut bomb blast Wednesday -- the latest anti-Syrian politician to be killed in the country.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rut.blast/index.html

Bush links Syria to killing of Lebanese MP
Thursday June 14
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070614/1/497t8.html

Abbas warns of 'collapse'
POSTED: 0256 GMT (1056 HKT), June 13, 2007
[url=http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html[/quote]]http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html[/quote][/url]

The underlying theme is an evolving war-scenario

Lett's see what the 'Hariri thread' in the HDDesign material has to offer for this monitored timeframe around December 8, 2009:

US to focus on uranium findings in Syria - evidence of Iranian proliferation
December 6, 2009

A senior official in the Obama administration described the UN nuclear watchdog inspectors' discovery of traces of highly processed plutonium at the bombed Syrian-North Korean facility at Dir a-Zur as a "smoking gun" - evidence of Iran's covert nuclear activities and proliferation
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6405

and

If attacked, Iran wants Syria to hit back at Israel. Damascus hedges

December 10, 2009

military sources report that this message Iran's defense minister Ahmad Vahidi brought to Damascus where he is attending a session of the high Iranian-Syrian defense committee which went into its second day Thursday, Dec. 10. The Iranian visitor indicated that Tehran expects an Israeli attack within a month
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6413

Looks like an evolving war-scenario too.

During this monitored timeframe Barack Obama picked up the Nobel Peace Price in Oslo

What has he to say about war?

Obama defends war as he picks up Nobel Peace Prize

President Barack Obama has said the US must uphold moral standards when waging wars that are necessary and justified, as he accepted his Nobel Peace Prize.

In his speech in Oslo, he defended the US role in Afghanistan, arguing the use of force could bring lasting peace.

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9222&mforum=hddesign#9222

which makes the circle full for me:

its the war in Afghanistan that drew my attention to this timeframe and the start of the 'decoding' of the current timeframes:

I wrote on the timeline for December 3, 2009:
quote:
December 3, 2009 - Phi point (inwards) Sumatra quake/Tsunami December 26, 2004 - end of Mayan Calendar

because of the +/- 1 day correction and depending on the end of the Long count , december 21 or 23, 2012, this Phipoint should be considered a timeframe: at least 2 days +/- around December 3 ( peak date)

Barack Obama orders 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8389778.stm

Phi point outwards Sumatra quake/Tsunami December 26, 2004 - end of Mayan Calendar was January 15, 2008:

The Pentagon announces plans to send 3,200 additional Marines to Afghanistan, Tuesday, 15 January 2008:
More US marines for Afghanistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7189934.stm

back to Phipoint inwards:

Obama: Security of world at stake in Afghanistan
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ghanistan/index.html
Afghan troop surge similar to Iraq plan?
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)raq.surge/index.html
Rep. Hinchey: Bush Administration 'Intentionally Let bin Laden Get Away' In Order To Justify Iraq War
http://www.huffingtonpost(...)minini_n_374640.html
Afghan victory key to defeating Al-Qaeda: Gates
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)ry-nato-7e07afd.html
Bin Laden 'seen in Afghanistan'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8394470.stm

Samoan Tsunami wave was 46 feet high
The tsunami that killed more than 180 people in the Samoan islands and Tonga earlier this year towered up to 46 feet (14 meters) high _ more then twice as tall as most of the buildings it slammed into, scientists said Friday December 3, 2009.
http://blogs.lasvegassun.(...)ve-was-46-feet-high/

hitting mainstream at macrolevel: BBC top story:

Samoa tsunami 'twice height of buildings'
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8394892.stm
]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8394892.stm[/quote][/url]

get ready for the Waves of Change
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_76072785
exact vijf jaar na de verwoestende tsunami is Indonesië vandaag getroffen door een aardbeving
pi_76073163
Exact vijf jaar na de verwoestende Tsunami is Indonesië vandaag getroffen door een aardbeving.
pi_76176435
quote:
September 21, 2006 - 12:19PM

The man who shot Pope John Paul II in 1981 has warned Pope Benedict XVI, whose remarks enraged Muslims last week, not to visit the predominantly Muslim Turkey in November, saying the pontiff's life could be in danger, the gunman's lawyer said.

"As a man who knows these things, I am saying that your life is in danger, don't come to Turkey. I can't welcome you because I'm in prison," lawyer Mustafa Demirbag quoted Mehmet Ali Agca as saying.

The lawyer said Agca made his statement during a meeting at the high-security Kartal prison in Istanbul on Monday ( September 18, 2006/Dutch).

Demirbag said he would visit the gunman again tomorrow and was expecting his client to make further statements.

Benedict XVI said that he has "deep respect" for Islam but did not offer an apology as demanded by some Muslim leaders offended by the pontiff's remarks in Germany last week.

During his speech, the pontiff cited a Medieval text that characterised some of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman," particularly "his command to spread by the sword the faith."

Secular Turkey's ruling Islamic-rooted government accused him of trying to revive the spirit of the Crusades and called on the pontiff to offer a sincere and personal apology.

"Either apologise, or do not come," read a banner carried by dozens of protesters from a religious workers' union in Ankara yesterday - a sign many Muslims feel Benedict's expression of regret on Sunday was insufficient.

Agca speculated in a hand-written letter faxed to the Associated Press by his lawyer that the Pope was pressured by secret services to make such a statement.
Agca called on Benedict to step down as pope and return to Germany for a peaceful life.

There have long been questions about Agca's mental health. He fired on John Paul as the pontiff rode in an open car in St Peter's Square on May 13, 1981.

John Paul died last year and was replaced by Benedict XVI.

When asked by Turkish police earlier this year where he obtained the gun he used in his assassination attempt, Agca said: "These are minor details. It was written in my destiny 1,000 years ago. I fulfilled a mission that was written 1,000 years ago. I would shoot the Pope even if he was on the moon," Turkey's Hurriyet and Zaman newspapers quoted him as saying at the time.

John Paul was wounded but recovered. The Pope visited his attacker and forgave him in his Rome prison cell in 1983.

In January, Agca was released by mistake and was sent back to prison on January 20, eight days after being freed.

An appeals court ruled he had to serve more time for killing a prominent Turkish journalist, Abdi Ipekci, in 1979, and reversed a lower court ruling that had allowed him to be freed.

AP

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/09/21/1158431822277.html
It has been on my mind the whole day yesterday......

There's someting with this warning but I couldn't put my finger on it....

Yesterday evening it fell on its place....

Ali Agca made his statement on Monday September 18, 2006

The Pope is in danger......

On April 24, 2005 Pope Benedict XVI is formally installed as Pope of the Catholic Church in an inaugural mass.

Just like Pope JP II, Benedict XVI has been attached twice with Earth at the same orbital position:

Woman Who Toppled Pope Tried It Last Year
Vatican Identifies Attacker as Susanna Maiolo, Says She Was Involved in Similar Security Breach in '08

==
She was the same woman involved in a similar incident at last year's Midnight Mass, Vatican officials said. In that case, Maiolo jumped the barricade but never managed to reach the pope and was quietly tackled to the ground by security.

In both cases, she wore a red sweatshirt.

During Thursday night's service, Maiolo jumped the barricade and lunged for the pope as he processed down the aisle toward the altar. As security guards brought her down, she grabbed Benedict's vestments and pulled him down with her, according to witness video obtained by The Associated Press.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st(...)sContent;cbsCarousel

1982 Secret Pope Stabber:

The late Pope John Paul II was wounded by a knife-wielding priest in 1982, a year after he was shot in St. Peter’s Square, but the injury was kept secret, his former top aide says in a documentary film. Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz also disclosed that when John Paul was unable to pronounce words several days before his death in 2005, he told his aides that if he could not speak any more the time had come for him to die.

Dziwisz, who is now cardinal of Krakow, Poland, was John Paul’s private secretary and closest aide for nearly 40 years, including all of his 27 years as pontiff. On May 12, 1982, the pope was visiting the shrine city of Fatima in Portugal to give thanks for surviving a first assassination attempt a year earlier on May 13, 1981, when he was shot in St. Peter’s Square by Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca.
http://xenophilius.wordpr(...)secret-pope-stabber/

Its the Golden Mean that unveils the hidden underlying Design

Maiolo's first attack on the Pope happended on December 25, 2008 during the christmass mass, which is Earth at orbital position of the Grand Gross.

Phipoint between inauguration Benedict XVI and first attack by Maiolo

April 24, 2005 ( inauguration) - December 25, 2008 ( Maiolo Pope attack) = 1.341 days

1.341 / Phi Golden Mean 2.61803399 = Phi point at 512 days =

September 18, 2006 , when Ali Agca made his statement

Be aware of the fact that we talk about orbital positions of the Grand Cross. The astrological Grand Cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' )

The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the last 2 orbital positions of the Grand Cross on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26
All dates are 'peak' dates .
More on the Grand Cross here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about413-hddesign.html


So Around Christmas 2009 its Grand Cross orbital position again....

at the bottow of the crucifix so to speak....


On top is around June 26....

Identified underlying themes for around June 25 are determined, of which 'exit of Sun King' is one.....


On christmas eve, Grand Cross:

Cardinal suffers broken leg as woman grabs pope
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tmas.pope/index.html

Remember Micheal Jackson passed away last 'on top' Grand Cross...

On December 25, 2009 this article was published in Dutch mainstream, its about an insane man who wanted kill Michael Jackson on stage ( article in Dutch):

vr 25 dec 2009, 09:39 Michael Jackson doelwit aanslag van onze redactie
AMSTERDAM - Een gestoorde man wilde Michael Jackson op het podium om het leven brengen. http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)anslag__.html?p=8,2n

Remember these orbital positions of the Grand Cross seem somehow related to the exit of the Pope, as I already wrote on the timeline Q2 2010 here: http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html

Let's go back to Ali Agca....
quote:
When I read today that Antonov had died, I had to think about Ali Agca's odd release from prison early 2006 and his rearrest a few days later.

Accused Pope assassin Sergei Antonov dies

From correspondents in Sofia, Bulgaria

August 02, 2007 01:21am

SERGEI Antonov, the Bulgarian man accused of trying to kill Pope John Paul II in 1981 but later released for lack of evidence, was found dead in his home today, an official said.

“Antonov died a natural death. The hospital confirmed it to us,” an interior ministry official told Agence France-Presse.

Doctors said Antonov, 58, had died several days ago.

He was found after a neighbour noticed she had not seen him for a couple of days, the BGNES news agency reported.

Antonov, a former manager in the Rome office of Balkan Air, was arrested in 1982 for complicity in the 1981 attack against Pope John Paul II in Saint Peter's Square.

Mehmet Ali Agca, the man arrested on the spot and sentenced for the attack, told police that Antonov had given him the pistol he fired against the Pope and that the Bulgarian secret services were implicated.

Antonov was held for almost four years in Italy, only to be acquitted for lack of evidence in 1986.

He returned to Sofia and lived alone on a Government pension.

http://www.news.com.au/pe(...)5575-5005361,00.html

Antonov had died several days ago.

I think he probably died on July 29, 2007

[quote]Friday, 20 January 2006

Turkey ends Pope gunman freedom

The Turkish gunman who shot Pope John Paul II in 1981 has been rearrested after a court ruled he should return to prison, eight days after being freed.
Turkey's highest appeals court overturned the decision which allowed Mehmet Ali Agca to be released early.


555 awakenings starttriggerdate for July 29, 2007:

January 20, 2006

First thought indicates the connection, the triggerdates unveil the hidden underlying Design[/quote]

So the exact date Antonov died is unknown, but it is around July 29, 2007.

This Bulgarian connection seems indeed related to this assassination attempt on Pope JP II:

HDDesign is stronger than the lie......

Fact is that Antonov died at Phi point between Ali Agca being a FREE man...

Ali Agca was just the shooter, not the organizer....

Ali Agca will be free on January 18, 2010

Antonov died around July 29, 2007

July 29, 2007 - January 18, 2010 = 904 days

904 / Phi Golden mean = 904 / 1.61803399 = 558 days prior to July 29, 2007:

gives around January 17, 2006: Ali Agca was a free man from January 12-20, 2006!!!

Antonov died at Phipoint between Ali Agca being a free man!

When Ali made his statement in order to warn the Pope on September 18, 2006, he also talks about this: "the Pope was pressured by secret services to make such a statement".

The Bulgarian connection seem to confirm the hidden underlying forces at play: we all know who's behind the Bulgarian secret services in those days.

Moscow’s Assault on the Vatican
The KGB made corrupting the Church a priority.

By Ion Mihai Pacepa
The Soviet Union was never comfortable living in the same world with the Vatican. The most recent disclosures document that the Kremlin was prepared to go to any lengths to counter the Catholic Church’s strong anti-Communism.
http://article.nationalre(...)NWUwODJiOTEzYjY4NzI=
Mihai Pacapa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Mihai_Pacepa

With Ali's warning as a fact and the June 26, 2010 events yet to materialize, I expected to find confirmation back in time with Ali's warning at Phipoint.

So let's see what the Golden Mean has to say when we give this future 'on top' Grand Cross date June 26, 2010 as closer look

June 26, 2010 is the expected timeframe with the underlying 'exit of the pope theme' ( not meaning the pope will die that day, the expressions could become more subtle ). Ali made his statement on September 18, 2006. From June 26, 2010 through Ali's warning at Phi point gives August 12, 2000

On that day an event that should be considered a 'warning' too:

Russian submarine K-141 Kursk was an Oscar-II class nuclear cruise missile submarine of the Russian Navy, lost with all hands when it sank in the Barents Sea on August 12, 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_K-141_Kursk

We have to wait until the orbital position of the Grand Cross for (ex-KGB) President Putin to show his face:

While the tragedy of the Kursk played out in the Far North, Russia's then President Vladimir Putin, though immediately informed of the tragedy, waited for five days ( Grand Cross Orbital Position ) before he broke a holiday at a presidential resort house in subtropical Sochi on the Black Sea before commenting publicly on the loss of the pride of the Northern Fleet. A year later he said: "I probably should have returned to Moscow, but nothing would have changed. I had the same level of communication both in Sochi and in Moscow, but from a PR point of view I could have demonstrated some special eagerness to return

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_K-141_Kursk

These are the kind of warnings back in our perspective of time that we we should use to the benefit of the destiny of mankind. Its similar as with the Tunguska event and as a coincidence its Deep Impact Earth flyby today.

These are profound 'revelations' that show up suddenly by synchronicity:

As readers can read in this HDDesign material, the Tunguska event is directly linked to Deep Impact on comet Temple I

Today December 29 is the last of the 3 Earth flyby's of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi

July 4, 2005 Impact on Comet Temple I is Phi point between the December 29, 2009 last Earth flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi and

September 25, 2002


September 25, 2002 - December 29, 2009 = 2.652

2.652 / 2.61803399 = 1.013 days

September 25, 2002 - July 4, 2005 Deep Impact ( phi point) = 1.013 days

Wouldn't it be an 'in the face' confirmation if some kind of a 'Tunguska confirmation' has happened on that day September 25, 2002?

Vitim event

The Vitim event or Bodaybo event is believed to be an impact by a bolide or comet nucleus in the Vitim River basin. It occurred near the town of Bodaybo in the Mamsko-Chuisky district of Irkutsk Oblast, Siberia, Russia on September 25, 2002 at approximately 10:00 p.m. (local time). The event was also detected by a U.S. military missile-defense satellite.

Some attempts were made to define the magnitude of the explosion. U.S. military analysts calculated it was between 0.2–0.5 kilotons, while Russian physicist Andrey Olkhovatov estimates it at 4–5 kilotons.

Information about the event appeared in the mass media and among scientists after only a week. Initially no one was able to understand the magnitude of the explosion. A small expedition, sent by the Institute of Sun–Earth Physics (Irkutsk), tried to find a meteorite within about 10 km from Bodaybo town (people told them– "it has fallen beyond the nearest mountain!").

Some people suggest that this phenomenon is similar to the Tunguska event of 1908.

As reported by Kosmopoisk, in May 2003 an expedition, performed by Kosmopoisk (leader — V. Chernobrov) reached the presumed impact point (about 50 km from Vitimsky settle point). The situation there looked similar to that of the Tunguska river after the Tunguska event in 1908. Snow and water samples were analyzed and found to contain an abnormal amount of tritium, as well as radioactive isotopes of cobalt and caesium.

Summing up all the information V.A. Chernobrov suggested, that the Vitim event could be caused by a falling of a comet nucleus with a diameter about 50–100 meters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitim_event
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_76214429
quote:
<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============><============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

<==========> <=========>

With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
you can login with user reader password reader
So December 29, 2009 was the scheduled date of the third Earth flyby of space craft Deep Impact/Epoxi, on its way to its encounter with comet Hartley 2:



As we have seen in the above quoted post, the mission milestones of this Epoxi mission seem to be key elements in the 'communication' that is taking place, rather than actual scheduled events on this Epoxi mission. The first date NASA communicated as encounter with comet Hartley2 , October 11, 2010, was only a mean of 'communication' in order to 'meet' the Intelligent correlations as described in the above quote.

NASA is COMMUNICATING


The question that arises is:

WHERE IS SPACECRAFT DEEP IMPACT/EPOXI?

"Mission controllers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory began directing EPOXI towards Hartley 2 on November 1, 2007. They commanded the spacecraft to perform a three-minute rocket burn that changed the spacecraft's velocity. EPOXI’s new trajectory sets the stage for three Earth flybys, the first on December 31, 2007 ( again on December 30, 2007 and again on December 29, 2009/Dutch). This places the spacecraft into an orbital "holding pattern" until it’s time for the optimal encounter of comet Hartley 2 in 2010."

NASA has removed the above picture from the official epoxi mission site, but I have saved it in my own photobucket file.

There's no current info available about the current mission status and I also can't find anything about the scheduled December 29, 2009 Earth flyby. Did it actually happen or was it part of the 'communication'?

Was it this second 'Tunguska' warning that made NASA understand their mistake to impact comet Temple I, so NASA started to 'communicate' in order to express that 'we got the message'. ( we are sorry that we impacted comet Temple I, we won't do it again):

about this 'second Tunguska warning':

As readers can read in this HDDesign material, the Tunguska event is directly linked to Deep Impact on comet Temple I

December 29 is the last of the 3 scheduled Earth flyby's of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi

July 4, 2005 Impact on Comet Temple I is Phi point between the December 29, 2009 last Earth flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi and

September 25, 2002


September 25, 2002 - December 29, 2009 = 2.652

2.652 / 2.61803399 = 1.013 days

September 25, 2002 - July 4, 2005 Deep Impact ( phi point) = 1.013 days

Wouldn't it be an 'in the face' confirmation if some kind of a 'Tunguska confirmation' has happened on that day September 25, 2002?

Vitim event

The Vitim event or Bodaybo event is believed to be an impact by a bolide or comet nucleus in the Vitim River basin. It occurred near the town of Bodaybo in the Mamsko-Chuisky district of Irkutsk Oblast, Siberia, Russia on September 25, 2002 at approximately 10:00 p.m. (local time). The event was also detected by a U.S. military missile-defense satellite.

Some attempts were made to define the magnitude of the explosion. U.S. military analysts calculated it was between 0.2–0.5 kilotons, while Russian physicist Andrey Olkhovatov estimates it at 4–5 kilotons.

Information about the event appeared in the mass media and among scientists after only a week. Initially no one was able to understand the magnitude of the explosion. A small expedition, sent by the Institute of Sun–Earth Physics (Irkutsk), tried to find a meteorite within about 10 km from Bodaybo town (people told them– "it has fallen beyond the nearest mountain!").

Some people suggest that this phenomenon is similar to the Tunguska event of 1908.

As reported by Kosmopoisk, in May 2003 an expedition, performed by Kosmopoisk (leader — V. Chernobrov) reached the presumed impact point (about 50 km from Vitimsky settle point). The situation there looked similar to that of the Tunguska river after the Tunguska event in 1908. Snow and water samples were analyzed and found to contain an abnormal amount of tritium, as well as radioactive isotopes of cobalt and caesium.

Summing up all the information V.A. Chernobrov suggested, that the Vitim event could be caused by a falling of a comet nucleus with a diameter about 50–100 meters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitim_event

So what's up with NASA's Deep Impact/ Epoxi mission?

Did the Epoxi spacecraft fly by Earth Yesterday?

Did NASA abort the mission?

Will the comet encounter with comet Hartley 2 ever take place?
(Last scheduled date of this encounter announced by NASA is November 4, 2010.)

Has the Epoxi mission been changed, without announcements?

Why is related info deleted from the official NASA Epoxi mission site?

Has the Epoxi spacecraft perhaps been taken out?

calling sleuths, help me with looking for answers to these questions.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 30 december 2009 @ 12:13:10 #140
134009 Killaht
Words of Wisdom
pi_76215640
Ff serieus?! Zijn er mensen die dit serieus nemen?

Er gebeuren 1000en ongelukken of gebeurtenissen op de aarde elke dag, zo kan ik ook voorspellingen doen. En "worldevents" zien als peter r de vries... kom op. En dan pim fortuyn en theo van gogh met obama in verband brengen....

Zo kan ik ook voorspellen met mn phi.

Als je echt een nastradamus bent, geef je een datum die globaal iets betekent en dat je weet wat er dan gebeurt.

"Strange times are these in which we live
when old and young are taught in falsehoods school.
And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool"
pi_76239195
After the above post with all the 'Deep Impact' related issues, I decided to give this possible terrorist attack attempt on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit a look, which has happened on December 25, 2009.

I didn't had the time yet because I'm still working and I had other things on my mind when I could do the 'HDDesign research'.

First thought was Richard Reid, who failed to destroy a Boeing 767 on American Airlines Flight 63, a flight from Paris, Charles De Gaulle International Airport to Miami International Airport, USA, by igniting explosives hidden in his shoes. This has happened on December 22, 2001

I decided to calculate the Phi point in between and guess what?

The synchronicity is 'in the face':

Phi point is January 12, 2005

on that day spaceship Deep Impact/ Epoxi was launched from Earth into space!!!!!!!

Which in turn should be connected to 9/11, at least that's what I thought

From Deep Impact launch date January 12, 2005 through 9/11 at Phipoint gives August 18, 1999: the Grand Cross planetary alignment!! ( see previous post about the Pope)
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_76538898
January 10 + a few days could be interesting. keep an eye on the timeline, updates will follow here later
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about409-hddesign.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  maandag 11 januari 2010 @ 00:16:04 #143
271500 Captain_Zappa
Coffee and Cigarettes
pi_76663818
quote:
Op woensdag 30 december 2009 12:13 schreef Killaht het volgende:
Ff serieus?! Zijn er mensen die dit serieus nemen?

Er gebeuren 1000en ongelukken of gebeurtenissen op de aarde elke dag, zo kan ik ook voorspellingen doen. En "worldevents" zien als peter r de vries... kom op. En dan pim fortuyn en theo van gogh met obama in verband brengen....

Zo kan ik ook voorspellen met mn phi.

Als je echt een nastradamus bent, geef je een datum die globaal iets betekent en dat je weet wat er dan gebeurt.

Eens, ik kan voorspellen dat er volgedne week iets gebeurt met het openbaar vervoer.
En er rijd toevallig een bus tegen een paal.
Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over.
  maandag 11 januari 2010 @ 00:29:48 #144
256363 ZoKanIkHetOok
Also twitterte Zarathustra.
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Ja hallo, ik kom hier op TRU om bang gemaakt te worden voordat ik ga slapen, niet om in de lach te schieten van een hilarisch slechte OP in een dito slecht topic.
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even tussendoor:

Goro posted this article at Etemenanki:
Wednesday, January 06, 2010
THE GENERAL'S WIDOW: A ROSWELL TELL-ALL
http://ufocon.blogspot.co(...)ell-tell-all-by.html

Today I decided to calculate midpoint between the epi centers of the Haiti and Eureka Earthquakes which appeared to be the city of San Antonio, Texas USA.
With this exact mid point I could determine the Phi point between the 2 quakes:

ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO USA
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  zaterdag 16 januari 2010 @ 20:06:01 #147
176420 Dibble
Neqschot...?
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Wat een BS

Wel respect voor Dutch dat ie dit al een aantal topics weet vol te houden
*Hosselcopter*
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heb je de timeline gevolgt of moet er een update komen?
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  zondag 17 januari 2010 @ 00:10:20 #149
176420 Dibble
Neqschot...?
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nee hoor, is prima zo
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The timelines for 2010:

Q1 2010 timeline
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about409-hddesign.html

Q2 2010 april. may and June
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html

Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about408-hddesign.html

Q4 2010 timeline October, November and December 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about425-hddesign.html

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