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  zaterdag 19 juni 2010 @ 18:32:22 #251
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quote:
Op vrijdag 18 juni 2010 11:48 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Last year we saw the exit of Michael Jackson ( exit of Sun King)
Mensen die geloven dat Michael Jackson dood is...
quote:
Op vrijdag 18 juni 2010 22:33 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
rond 26 juni 2012.
Dat kan niet, want dan is de aarde al vergaan.
Op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 13:20 schreef Bastard het volgende:
Je lijkt af en toe wel een kind dat alles maar roept wat in je hoofd opkomt!
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Op zaterdag 19 juni 2010 18:32 schreef JoepiePoepie het volgende:
Mensen die geloven dat Michael Jackson dood is...

Dat kan niet, want dan is de aarde al vergaan.
Wat een zinvolle post weer

Zelfs na zoveel topics over 2012 heb je nog niet door dat die zogezegde datum 21/12/2012 is
En een eenvoudig rekensommetje leert je dat 21/12 na 12/6 komt
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
  zaterdag 19 juni 2010 @ 23:31:42 #253
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Op vrijdag 18 juni 2010 22:33 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Goed lezen,

Er staat in feite rond 26 juni dit jaar, rond 26 juni 2011 of rond 26 juni 2012.

met een focus op dit jaar, dus rond 26 juni 2010

Jouw quote beperkt zich tot een gedeelte van de tekst waardoor er heel iets anders gesuggereert wordt.


dan moet je wel verdomd goed lezen om te zien dat ie aan de orbital position refereerd voor de san andreas beving... maar je hebt gelijk
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
  zondag 20 juni 2010 @ 01:12:30 #254
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Op zaterdag 19 juni 2010 23:10 schreef UncleScorp het volgende:
Wat een zinvolle post weer

Zelfs na zoveel topics over 2012 heb je nog niet door dat die zogezegde datum 21/12/2012 is
En een eenvoudig rekensommetje leert je dat 21/12 na 12/6 komt
Mensen die serieus ingaan op een grapje...
Op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 13:20 schreef Bastard het volgende:
Je lijkt af en toe wel een kind dat alles maar roept wat in je hoofd opkomt!
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On October 12, 2009 the American writer Edgar Allan Poe received a second funeral in Baltimore, USA, 160 years after his death and 200 years after his birth.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8301128.stm

Poe and his works influenced literature in the United States and around the world, as well as in specialized fields, such as cosmology and cryptography.

Poe also reinvented science fiction, responding in his writing to emerging technologies such as hot air balloons in "The Balloon-Hoax".

"The Balloon-Hoax" is the title used in collections and anthologies of a newspaper article written by Edgar Allan Poe, first published in 1844. Originally presented as a true story, it detailed European Monck Mason's trip across the Atlantic Ocean in only three days in a gas balloon. It was later revealed as a hoax and the story was retracted two days later.

A few days after Edgar Allan Poe’s second funeral, on October 16, 2009, the world watched a giant balloon fly through the air as a tearful family expressed fears that their 6-year-old boy could be inside. Three days later authorities announced what millions suspected: The whole thing was staged.

Back in October 2009 I didn’t understand the significance of this synchronicity but today on June 21, 2010 I do understand that this Balloon Hoax is indeed a confirmation of the hidden underlying design I am about to unveil right now.

There are 2 major timeframes coming up on the timelines in the HDDesign material: the Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010 and ‘Contact’ , around August 23, 2010. Both timeframes are identified and described in the HDDesign material only.

As always, I was just busy at work while I suddenly got this idea to consider these 2 major timeframes to be the 2 Pi points on a timeline, in the very same way as expressed with the ‘Deep Impact / Epoxi communication ’as explained in the HDDesign material. With these 2 major timeframes as Pi points this timeline starts on October 12, 2009 with Edgar Allan Poe’s second funeral.

When I started to read about Edgar Allan Poe today I found out about his balloon hoax and when I noticed the synchronicity with the actual balloon hoax during October 2009 I knew I was on the right track.

I wanted to know more about Poe. He considered “Eureka: A Prose Poem” to be his career masterpiece. It is a lengthy non-fiction work which he subtitled "A Prose Poem", though it has also been subtitled as "An Essay on the Material and Spiritual Universe". Adapted from a lecture he had presented, Eureka describes Poe's intuitive conception of the nature of the universe with no scientific work done to reach his conclusions. He also discusses man's relationship with God, whom he compares to an author. Though it is generally considered a literary work, some of Poe's ideas anticipate discoveries of the 20th century.

Eureka is Poe's attempt at explaining the universe, using his general proposition "Because Nothing was, therefore All Things are". In it, Poe discusses man's relationship to God and the universe or, as he offers at the beginning: "I design to speak of the Physical, Metaphysical and Mathematical – of the Material and Spiritual Universe: of its Essence, its Origin, its Creation, its Present Condition and its Destiny". In keeping with this design, Poe concludes "that space and duration are one" and that matter and spirit are made of the same essence. Poe suggests that people have a natural tendency to believe in themselves as infinite with nothing greater than their soul—such thoughts stem from man's residual feelings from when each shared an original identity with God. Ultimately individual consciousnesses will collapse back into a similar single mass, a "final ingathering" where the "myriads of individual Intelligences become blended". Likewise, Poe saw the universe itself as infinitely expanding and collapsing like a divine heartbeat which constantly rejuvenates itself, also implying a sort of deathlessness. In fact, because the soul is a part of this constant throbbing, after dying, all people, in essence, become God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka:_A_Prose_Poem

Eureka, I like this guy!!!!

Eureka?

We are talking about “Contact’ around August 23, 2010 ( so far via Earthquakes ) and the San Andrea fault as underlying theme for the Grand Cross orbital position.

As already identified in the HDDesign material, it’s the 6.5 California earthquake on January 9, 2010, that is part of the (earthquake ) ‘communication’ that is taking place, exactly 1 Venus years in Earth days prior to ‘Contact’ around August 23, 2010.

Epicenter: EUREKA !!!!

And Mercury “The Messenger” is at the same orbital position during the second funeral of Edgar Allan Poe / balloon hoax and the Eureka quake, so when the fist inner planet takes orbital position again, Poe’s masterpiece shows up as another ‘confirmation’.

I want to emphasize again that the Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010 also creates a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with the end of the Mayan Long Count calendar.

Be aware of the fact that this all indicates that we are dealing here with the Destiny of Mankind, so please focus on the upcoming timeframe around June 26, 2010 and try to understand the events during this timeframe with the information I have been giving in mind.

I expect to write an analysis after the timeframe is closed.

Take care,

Dutch
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2010 23:36 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
focus on Earth´s orbital position of the Venus Transits of our times, around June 7 coming up.

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=401&mforum=hddesign
login ´reader´ password ´reader´

´preemptive´
updated Venus Transit timeframe around June 7:

Oh yes, the 'preemptive strike' was on the table during the Venus Transit timeline:
US-led armada secretly drilled bombing Iranian targets, missile defense with Israel. The 10 US warships plus an Israeli and German battle vessel each, which transited the Suez Canal Friday, June 18, have reached the Persian Gulf. But first, from June 6 through June 10, the USS Harry S. Truman carrier Strike Group was deployed 50 miles of the shore of southwestern Israel on a secret joint war exercise

http://www.debka.com/article/8866/
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  maandag 28 juni 2010 @ 12:09:45 #257
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quote:
Be aware of the fact that this all indicates that we are dealing here with the Destiny of Mankind, so please focus on the upcoming timeframe around June 26, 2010 and try to understand the events during this timeframe with the information I have been giving in mind.
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On June 27, NASA's historic Deep Impact spacecraft will fly past Earth for the fifth and last time on its current University of Maryland-led EPOXI mission. At time of closest approach to Earth, the spacecraft will be about 30,400 kilometers (18,900 miles) above the South Atlantic.
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
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In a previous post I have mentioned that There are 2 major timeframes coming up on the timelines in the HDDesign material: the Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010 and ‘Contact’ , around August 23, 2010. Both timeframes are identified and described in the HDDesign material only.

I have to emphasize that the Grand Cross of orbital positions in the HDDesign material is something else than a Grand Cross of Planetary alignments. The Grand Cross of orbital positions in the HDDesign material creates a Grand Cross with specific orbital positions of Earth on its orbit around the sun . In my native language ( Dutch ) the word ‘cross’ is also used to express a ‘crucifix’ and the Grand Cross in the HDDesign is just like that: a crucifix.

As everything else in the HDDesign material, the Grand Cross of orbital positions initially emerged by an intuitive thought and the follow up of the synchronicities that occurred.
The astrological Grand Cross planetary alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross ( crucifix) as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' ) The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the 2 other orbital positions of the Grand Cross ( crucifix ) on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26.
The info can be reviewed is a separate thread dedicated to the orbital Grand Cross in the HDDesign material here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=413&mforum=hddesign

So with the December 26, 2004 massive Earthquake in Sumatra ( 9+) and the Tsunami that followed, 3 orbital positions of the crucifix were marked on Earth’s orbit and I expected that the last orbital position of the crucifix should be confirmed too: around June 26.

Earth’s orbital position around June 26, 2010 was according to the HDDesign material ‘on top’ of the Grand Cross ( crucifix, so below) and was marked by a powerful alignment of seven planets in a Grand Cross formation, including a partial lunar eclipse!( as above)
( see for instance: Capricorn Full Moon eclipse June 26, complete with Grand Cross
Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com(...)u.html#ixzz0sVj8pN6o )

The 9+ December 26, 2004 Sumatra Quake / Tsunami is herewith firmly marked as one of the most profound events in the Design of the times we live in. I remember that back in 2004 prior to the Venus Transit, I talked about an expected Hyper- Dimensionally initiated ‘charge’ up that would be triggered by the Venus Transit and would become apparent on Earth in the leading Hyper Dimensional Octahedron area : Indonesia. Around the Venus Transit of June 8, 2004 the volcanic activity increased significantly in the Indonesian area and the ‘charge up’ eventually culminated with the Sumatra quake/ tsunami.

There’s something else with the Sumatra quake/tsunami, which was initially triggered by the Venus Transit. The December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake/tsunami happened with Venus on the same orbital position as during the end of the Mayan Long count in December 2012, exactly 13 Venus years apart or exactly similar as the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times: June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012! ( ergo: timeframe between Venus Transits is similar as between the Sumatra quake and the end of the Mayan Calendar).

Back to the orbital position of the Grand Cross around June 26 again. I wrote that I was busy at work while I suddenly got this idea to consider these 2 major timeframes, grand cross June 26, 2010 and August 23, 2010 ‘Contact’, to be the 2 Pi points on a timeline, in the very same way as expressed with the ‘Deep Impact / Epoxi communication ’as explained in the HDDesign material. This Pi based Design was first discovered in the HDDesign material in relation to the ‘communication’ that took place with the spacecraft Deep Impact/ Epoxi ( you can review or reread it if you like ). While an actual planetary alignment in itself is a already a strong confirmation of the given hidden underlying Design, I did expected at least a second confirmation during this years orbital position of the Grand cross.

And as an ‘in the face’ confirmation its spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi that made one final flyby of Earth during the Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010, getting a gravity assist to help propel the spacecraft towards a meetup with comet Hartley 2 this fall:
Deep Impact / Epoxi Spacecraft to Make Final Flyby of Earth
http://www.universetoday.(...)inal-flyby-of-earth/

The first time spacecraft Deep Impact made an Earth fly by, end of December 2007, it was about 911 days after Deep Impact on comet Temple I and therefore creating a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron according the described Platonic Solid based elements in the HDDesign material.
And again 911 days later, again creating a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron, Deep Impact/Epoxi made an Earth fly by again during Grand Cross around June 26, 2010 !! Not only confirming the significance of the Grand Cross, but also confirming August 23, 2010 with ‘contact’ as underlying theme.

But there’s more. This year orbital position of the Grand Cross also creates a ( geometrical Platonic Solid based ) Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with the end of the Mayan calendar!!

Plato………

Watch this video, the maker has used several items directly taken from the HDDesign material :


With a previous post I have introduced Edgar Alan Poe’s ‘Eureka’ and the actual earthquake in Eureka as part of the ‘communication’ that is taking place. You can read about Poe’s Eureka in my previous post or here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka:_A_Prose_Poem

As a nice synchronicity, Dr Kennedy, a science historian in Manchester claims to have deciphered secret messages hidden in the ancient writings of the philosopher Plato.
Like all great discoveries, Dr Kennedy said his own Eureka moment was partly due to 'luck.'
By unravelling Plato's 'hidden' messages, Dr Kennedy believes he has thrown a new light on the origins of science, mathematics, music, and philosophy.
Read on:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/loc(...)_8773000/8773564.stm

Its not ‘luck’, its because the time is right. So we have this HD Tetrahedron, geometrically based on one of Plato’s Solid , connecting the Grand Cross of June 26, 2010 and the end of the Mayan calendar. As a regular reader of the HDDesign forum you might have noticed that I have been monitoring crop circles since e few weeks.



A crop circle thought to be inspired by a formula acclaimed as the most beautiful in all mathematics has appeared on a hillside in Wiltshire.
Experts say that the design may be connected to Euler's Identity, a complex formula devised by the 18th Century Swiss mathematician Leonhard Euler.

"This is one of the most profound and complicated equations of the past 2,000 years, and we think the crop circle is some form of visual translation."

The Wilton Windmill pattern is the latest in a long line of mathematical crop circles in Britain. In 2008 a coded image representing the first 10 digits of pi was discovered in a barley field in Wiltshire. ( Dutch: which made me discover the Pi based communication with this spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi )

Euler's Identity is admired by mathematicians for linking several fundamental mathematical constants.

Keith Devlin, professor of mathematics at Stanford University in California, said that the formula "reaches down into the very depths of existence ... like a Shakespearean sonnet that captures the very essence of love."
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)rs-in-Wiltshire.html

There’s a German called Werner Johannes Neuner who has deciphered this cropcircle and he comes up with the very same 2 dates as determined here in the HDDesign material: Grand cross June 26, 2010 and the end of the Mayan calendar. You can find his work here in his native language:
http://www.meinthema.com/de/wernerneuner/News/W9News

But there’s already a translation available, let’s see what Werner has to tell:

In english:
"On May 22 a crop Circle appeared near the windmill of Wilton in Wiltshire, South of England – a crop circle with an encoded message. This crop circle speaks of a profound paradigm shift, a reverse of polarity.
It alludes to two dates: The Grand Cross on June 26 2010 and December 21, 2012.
It contains a powerful warning, speaks of a global crisis and at the same time it shows the solution.
On June 26, 2010, there is an extraordinary planetary constellation, a Grand Cross. According to the message of the crop circle, the sun creates a new room, a healing room, a new field of consciousness on that day.
The sun unites two poles, merging them to a unity on June 26. This merging of polarities leads to a short-circuit, or in other words, a cosmic orgasm due to which a new room will enfold. This new room is a gift, because in this new room what seemed devoid of meaning all of sudden makes sense again. What enfolds is a new, corrected reality, shifted in phase!
According to the message of the crop circle this new room can be accessed by everyone through the power of consciousness.
If LOVE succeeds on earth, and be it for only a few hours in just one person or in just one loving couple, this experience of LOVE will leave a trace in this newly opening room, a trace which is eternal and will remain active forever. A shining trace, a trace of love, which will remain visible far beyond earth atmosphere. Each experience of love and every experience of peace will stimulate this room, fill and adorn it. The power of this room is going to grow exponentially. The songs of the Healed Matrix are the hymns which will fill this room!
Each person who dares to leave behind the matrix of power and violence, everyone who is not afraid of letting go old belief systems but live instead in harmony with Mother Earth and ALL that IS, will be able to access this room. Each person will receive healing impulses from this room through his consciousness and heart and will give in return his/her healing experience back to this room.
What we find in this room will exist within ourselves and outside of us. It is a Secret of the Universe, that what is being formed outside can be accessed from within; you find it in your own sacred inner space, your personal centre.
And once this Healing Matrix in this newly created Healing Room will be powerful enough, the matrix of fear will dissolve and the Healing Matrix will expand.
This is the Plan of the Star Master and the Planetary Beings.
This Healing Room is less than an atom in distance from us.
This Healing Room is in our own Sacred Space Centre when we are in unison with ourselves, in unison with Mother Earth and in unison with ALL that IS.
Werner Johannes Neuner describes the process of decodification of the message of the Crop Circle of Wilton in detail and all the information is available in German at this link:
http://www.meinthema.com/de/wernerneuner/News/W9News
He is looking forward to entering this Sacred Room together with all of us,
In the Light of Unity "
Werner Johannes Neuner and Sonja Myriel, who translated this message

end of quote.

Its true that I also expected events expressing the underlying themes ‘exit of Sun King’ and ‘San Andreas fault’ for around the June 26 orbital position of the Grand Cross, although I couldn’t know for which year so I stated in advance that I expect expressions related to these themes around June 26, 2010, June 26, 2011 or June 26, 2012.

In case of an Hyper Dimensionally initiated Earth change event like a (big) earthquake, we first see a Hyper Dimensional ‘inwelling’ , becoming apparent in our 3D reality above 60 degrees latitude ( see Enterprisemission’s ‘Hyper Dimensional Physics’ for details, I can provide them too), followed by an ‘outwelling’ sometime later. I have no idea how long it could take ( continued monitoring should shine a light on it I suppose. ). Perhaps the 4.8 Southern Alaskan earthquake at 62 North during the Grand Cross was such a 3D counterpart of a HD ‘inwelling’ and is the ‘outwelling’ yet to come, I don’t know. The Sumatra quake was more than half a year after the Venus Transit so I will keep on monitor it.

‘Contact’ is ongoing and HDDesign will continue to unveil it.

Keep an eye on the timelines ( ‘Contact’ around august 23 ) :
Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=445&mforum=hddesign
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Weer mooi materiaal Dutch, keep it up

Have fun...
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Als Nederland de finale gaat spelen op 11 juli, 15 jaar na ´Srebrenica´, dan is het een perfecte mogelijkheid om een ´subtiele´ uitdrukking te geven van het onderliggende thema ´srebrenica karma´´.

We zouden op zijn minst met zwarte banden moeten spelen en ook om een minuut stilte moeten vragen.

Wat betreft de wedstrijd zelf denk ik dat we van Spanje kunnen winnen, van Duitsland niet ( tenzij we inderdaad op een nadere manier blijk geven van verantwoordelijkheid voor het Srebrenica drama).
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Oh yes,

I have asked in advance to keep an eye on:
Ratko Mladic, Barack Obama , Hillary and Bill Clinton, Wim Kok, Geert Wilders, Jacques Chiraq, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, The tribunal in The Hague, Joris Voorhoeve, Bernard Janvier, Hans Couzy, Thom Karremans , Robert Franken

because I expected that 'Srebrenica karma' would probably find its way to express through some of these people around July 1, 2010

and that's exactly what has happened: survivors of the Srebrenica massacre are going to sue Karremans and Franken, the leaders of Dutchbat at the time of the Srebrenica massacre, for genocide and warcrimes!!!!!!!!!!

translation will follow:
[size=18]Aanklacht tegen leiders Dutchbat / leaders Dutchbat sued[/size]

Nabestaanden van de slachtoffers van Srebrenica hebben een aanklacht ingediend tegen Dutchbat-commandant Karremans en zijn plaatsvervanger, majoor Franken. Ze worden beschuldigd van genocide en oorlogsmisdrijven.
http://nos.nl/artikel/169(...)eiders-dutchbat.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Aangifte wegens genocide tegen Dutchbatters

AMSTERDAM - Nabestaanden van slachtoffers van de val van Srebrenica in 1995 hebben aangifte gedaan van genocide en oorlogsmisdrijven tegen onder anderen overste Thom Karremans.

Dat heeft advocate Liesbeth Zegveld dinsdag gemeld. Hasan Nuhanovic en de nabestaanden van Rizo Mustafic hebben aangifte gedaan, omdat de Nederlandse militairen in juli 1995 hun familieleden overdroegen aan de Bosnische Serviërs, die hen hebben vermoord.

Behalve tegen Karremans, commandant van het VN-bataljon Dutchbat, is aangifte gedaan tegen diens plaatsvervanger Franken en tegen personeelsfunctionaris Oosterveen. Het bataljon moest in Srebrenica de moslims beschermen.

Op 11 juli 1995 viel de enclave echter in handen van de Bosnisch-Servische vijand, die vervolgens achtduizend moslimmannen en -jongens vermoordde.


Tolk

Nuhanovic was tolk bij Dutchbat. Hij zocht met zijn ouders en broer zijn toevlucht tot het hoofdkwartier van Dutchbat. Op 13 juli dwongen Dutchbat-soldaten hen de compound te verlaten.

Ook elektricien Rizo Mustafic, die sinds 1994 bij het lokale personeel van het bataljon hoorde, moest weg. Hij is sindsdien spoorloos. De resten van de vader en broer van Nuhanovic zijn in 2007 en 2010 gevonden. De broer wordt binnenkort begraven in Srebrenica.

Het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) heeft nooit strafrechtelijk onderzoek gedaan, terwijl het daartoe volgens Europese verdragen verplicht is, aldus Zegveld. De nabestaanden willen dat het OM alsnog zo'n onderzoek doet. De aangifte is bij het OM in Arnhem gedaan, omdat die rechtbank strafzaken tegen militairen behandelt.


Weggevoerd

Rizo Mustafic en ander lokaal personeel zou met de Dutchbatters in veiligheid worden gebracht. Hij wist dat hij op die lijst stond, aldus advocaat Zegveld en volgens haar hadden zowel Karremans als Franken dat duidelijk gemaakt. Desondanks meldde Oosterveen hem dat hij weg moest. Net buiten het hek werd Mustafic gescheiden van zijn vrouw en weggevoerd.

Nuhanovic mocht blijven, maar zijn familie niet. Franken heeft volgens Zegveld gezegd dat zijn vader mocht blijven, maar zijn moeder en broer niet. Uiteindelijk zijn alle drie weggegaan. ''Franken heeft willens en wetens de broer en vader van Nuhanovic van de compound gestuurd'', aldus Zegveld. ''Franken heeft erkend dat hij hen de dood in heeft gestuurd.''

http://www.nu.nl/binnenla(...)de-dutchbatters.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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also updated June 28-30 'Srebrenica karma'

28 June, 2010
TERTIARY MASS GRAVE IN ZALAZJE, PRELIMINARY WORK IN PROGRESS

Members of the forensic expert team from Tuzla, International Commission on Mising Persons (ICMP), and the Court of Bosnia-Herzegovina, began a preliminary work on the mass grave located on a garbage dump near the village of Zalazje. The location of this mass grave was confirmed by the RS (Bosnian Serb) government. The surface of the mass grave already contains skeletal remains, according to Sadik Selimovic of the Institute for Missing Persons. The size of the mass grave is 80 x 20 metres and, based on dimensions, it is expected to yield a large number of skeletal remains.


"After the Serbs executed Srebrenica Bosniaks in the Agrarian Cooperative Kravica, the victims were then transported and buried in the Glogova mass grave near Bratunac. From that location, according to yet unconfirmed information, the remains were transported and re-buried in Zeleni Jadar, and then dug out and re-buried on this location in Zalazje," explained Cantonal Prosecutor Alma Dzaferovic. / Source: FENA

SREBRENICA GENOCIDE IS NOT A MATTER OF ANYBODY'S OPINION; IT'S A JUDICIAL FACT RECOGNIZED FIRST BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL FOR THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA AND SUBSEQUENTLY BY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE.
http://srebrenica-genocid(...)azje-mass-grave.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  vrijdag 23 juli 2010 @ 11:41:30 #264
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
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Dutch!

We hebben je guidance nodig man!
Dreigende taal Noord-Korea
+ Orkaan richting Oil-spil
+ Opkomende quake in San Fransico!



en nou niet achteraf komen met ja, blabla zelfde orbitale stand en sun king en whatnot
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
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ik ben net terug van vakantie maar er is iets nog belangrijkers aan het ontwikkelen: Het speciale Libanon tribunaal dat de moord op Rafik Hariri ondrzoekt gaat binnenkort Hizbollah beschuldigen met alle gevolgen van dien. Ik heb een hoop in te halen maar probeer snel meer info te geven.

Zoals je misschien weet geef ik al jaren consequent aan dat de moord op Rafik Hariri de belangrijkste 'casus belli' is voor een mogelijk ontwikkelend oorlogs scenario.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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keep your fingers crossed

The UN Special Tribunal for Lebanon is reportedly set to announce that Mustafa Badr al-Din, a senior Hizbullah operative and close relative of the former Hizbullah terror chief Imad Mughniyeh, is the main suspect in the 2005 assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri.

I have been saying it consistently for more than 5 years now

The assassination of Rafik Hariri was the initial trigger of an evolving war scenario

The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?
http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)forum=hddesign#11458
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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OMG!! The name of the Israeli Lt.Col. who was killed at the Lebanese border clash today: Dov HARARI
http://www.debka.com/article/8947/
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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‘contact’

Last year in June I've already determined the timeframe around august 23, 2010 as a timeframe with ‘contact’ as underlying theme. The determination was based on the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908 and the Roswell crash around July 7, 1947. If the Roswell crash is at Phipoint on a timeline marked by the Tunguska Event, than the other marker would be the timeframe around August 23, 2010 ( plus/minus a few days).

Before I proceed, I first want to emphasize again that the Tunguska Event is identified in the HDDesign material as the marker in relation to Deep Impact on comet Temple I and the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ), as unveiled by the Golden Mean Phi, in the very same way as ‘contact’ around August 23, 2010 is determined in relation to the Roswell crash and the Tunguska Event.

I’ve called the timeframe around August 23, 2010 ‘contact’ because of the correlation with the Roswell crash but also as a confirmation of the Tunguska Event in fact being an Intelligently Designed ‘warning’ in relation to human activity in space and the use of nuclear power.

The orbital positions of the planets prior to this timeframe around August 23, 2010, are also 'confirming' the underlying ‘Tunguska’ theme, I wrote on the timeline Q3 2010 for the timeframe around August 23, 2010:

quote:
With these big Earth quakes at Mercury ( Chili) and Venus ( Eureka) orbital positions marking this timeframe around August 23, it is Mars to unveil what this truly is about: 'Tunguska'

[quote] A small asteroid exploded over Africa this week following what astronomers said was the first firm prediction of an incoming space rock.

It did not strike Earth.
http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)mforum=hddesign#9996

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S POTENTIALLY OUT THERE AND WHEN , GIVING POSSIBILITY TO LESSEN ITS IMPACT BY TAKING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
STAY OUT OF SPACE, KEEP HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS EARTHBOUND AND DON'T F**K WITH NUCLEAR POWER

Read related info on the 'Enki thread' here:
http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)mforum=hddesign#9996[/quote]

Back in March this year I was challenged by a poster on JREF’s forum to ‘predict’ what would happen in relation to this ‘contact’ theme:

quote:
1st March 2010, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain
Hi Dutch,

Can HDD tell us when and where the NEXT >7.0 earthquake will be, instead of having to showhorn the event into HDD after it's occurred?
My reply:

quote:
It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact': May 27, 2010

followed by a big EQ in the San Andreas area around Earth's orbital position of the Grand Cross: around June 26, 2010, with a possibility on June 23 too ( Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Ecke committed suicide )

I expect 'Contact' is around August 23, 2010, not by means of EQ, but more like somekind of 'Tunguska' 'conditioning'

Mount St. Helens/Yellowstone is expected for around HD Cube timeframe in November this year. That means EQ or volcanic activity, high impact or subtle.
You can review the post here:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5671374&postcount=2632

When Mercury was marking ‘contact’ around May 27, 2010 a powerful earthquake with a 7.5 magnitude has struck the South Pacific Island of Vanuatu, exactly as ‘predicted’.
Prior to the timeframe around June 26 I have posted an addition that the expected San Andreas earthquake was indeed identified as underlying theme for Earth’s orbital position of the Grand Cross around June 26, but that its annually recurring and not part of a pattern specifically linked to this years June 26. Prior to June 26 I have specifically explained that I expect this San Andreas underlying theme to become clear around June 26 this year, June 26 2011 or June 26, 2012.

Back to ‘contact’.
I expected some kind of ‘Tunguska conditioning’ as a confirmation for the described underlying Design and a ‘Tunguska conditioning’ is what we got:

With Venus, Mars and Mercury already playing a role in this ‘as above – so below’ communication that is taking place, its Jupiter to confirm the ‘Tunguska’ underlying theme with an actual Tunguska-like impact:

New Fireball on Jupiter Spotted By Skywatchers
http://www.space.com/scie(...)l-impact-100823.html

An actual Tunguska-like event as witnessed by humans and shared to the world during this pre-determined 'contact' timeframe in which a Tunguska-like event was expected according to the HDDesign material!

I also expected developments around August 23, 2010 in relation to extraterrestrial life and that’s indeed what we got :

We Are Not Alone, And This Is How Life Begins
http://www.spacedaily.com(...)Life_Begins_999.html
Mud Volcanoes On Mars
If life does - or did - exist on Mars, signs of such life might well be found in a region in the northern plains called Acidalia Planitia
http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Mud_Volcanoes_On_Mars_999.html
Alien hunters 'should look for artificial intelligence'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11041449
Beer microbes live 553 days outside ISS
This type of research also plays into the popular theory that micro-organisms can somehow be transported between the planets in rocks - in meteorites - to seed life where it does not yet exist.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11039206
Rich exoplanet system discovered
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11070991
NASA to announce discovery of 'intriguing planetary system'
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)F8f1kazfoV&wom=false
Kepler spies Saturn-sized worlds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11097226

I want to emphasize that there’s a big difference between these 2 aspects of ‘contact’ as outlined above.
Life on earth and extraterrestrial life are expressions of consciousness in our familiar dimensions.
The hidden underlying Intelligent Design in our reality unveils the inter- dimensional ‘communication’ that is taking place and originates from or is part of ‘higher’ dimensional realms.

The ‘Tunguska warning’ is clear.

During ‘contact’ Iran's first nuclear plant began fueling…………

The Hariri situation will come to a climax soon……….

Are we still ‘running on autopilot towards a nuclear event’?

Another expression of this underlying ‘contact’ theme is coming up:

quote:
Mount St. Helens/Yellowstone is expected for around HD Cube timeframe in November this year. That means EQ or volcanic activity, high impact or subtle.
Already years ago I linked the Hariri situation to Yellowstone but I said back then that unfortunately not much people would understand and accept it and as of today I have to admit not much has changed.

Unfortunately most will still ignore or dismiss it, but ‘Yellowstone’ is coming up with a ‘Hariri-volcano’ about to erupt :

I wrote:

quote:
Yes,

We all have a shared responsibility in this, as with everything that happens in our reality. I cannot emphasize enough that we CAN make these subtle expressions possible. We may not be able to avoid to have to deal with specific ( karmic ) issues/underlying themes in our reality at specific moments in our perception of time, but as long as we understand WHY these events are happening, or at least if we do have a bit of understanding, than it becomes possible that the expressions will find a more subtle way to materialize in our reality.

Yellowstone doesn't have to blow

back in 2006, about a yellowstone article:

[quote]In recent years, the possibility of a large volcanic eruption has been a popular media topic, but Smith said the scenario seems overhyped. A more likely possibility would be a large earthquake, he said, noting that the most powerful quake in the interior Western United States happened at Hebgen Lake on Aug. 17, 1959.

"It's a much higher risk," he said.
http://www.stargatezero.c(...)msg5267.html#msg5267

I replied on that:

"Yes August 17, Hyper dimensional CUBE date. Yellowstone is near HD Cube location. I expect activity towards or on HD Cube date November 17, 2010"

and

"I guess it's too soon to say, but unclear / nuclear is indeed related to yellowstone to blow.a nuclear explosion increases yellowstone risks,that's what the patterns are trying to say, at least to me ".

I also said already back in 2006 in relation to HD Cube November 17, 2010 Yellowstone/Mount st helens:

"magnitude depends on how we wil deal with the related carmic issues at hand"

With that I meant the Hariri killing ( also HD Cube ) and nuclear power.

There are 4 HD Cube timeframes at macrolevel

November 17, in 2010 on the timeline as expected potential Yellowstone/Mount st Helens Earthchange event.

August 17, see Hebgen Lake Earthquake in 1959

May 18, in 1980 catastrophic eruption of Mount St. Helens

and Feb 14: Hariri? [/quote]

Keep an eye on the timeline here:
Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=408&mforum=hddesign

related threads:
CONTACT ( ENKI thread)
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=435&mforum=hddesign
The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=3&mforum=hddesign
experimental stuff / The Venus Connection
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=5&mforum=hddesign
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Dutch, waarom is Rafic Hariri (dat is toch degene waar het om gaat? Die vermoord is in februari 2005?) zo belangrijk in die hele Tunguska / nucleaire HD design? Wat is zijn betrokkenheid erin? Als ik je berichten lees, is hij een centrale spil in dit alles, maar ik zie het verband eerlijk gezegd niet. Wat heeft deze man tijdens zijn leven te maken gehad met de andere zaken waar je hem aan koppelt?

Bovendien heb je ook meermalen een waarschuwing geuit, dat de mens uit de ruimte moet blijven en van nucleaire energie moet afblijven. Waar baseer je dat dan op? Ja, Tunguska was inderdaad letterlijk en figuurlijk een behoorlijke smak en ja, nucleaire energie e.d. zijn gevaarlijk ... maar is je conclusie dat we dan maar niet de ruimte in moeten (en er niet eens aan moeten denken) niet ver gezocht? Ik bedoel, ik zou het juist als reden zien om het omgekeerde te doen: vandaag of morgen komt er zo'n knaller op onze planeet, dat we maar beter de mogelijkheid hebben om van deze rost af te (kunnen) zijn. Met andere woorden, ik zou op basis van deze dingen juist zeggen, vaart maken met het ruimtevaart programma!
True strength is not a measure of the body,
It's a measure of the soul.
  vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 15:00:22 #270
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Stephen Baxter heeft daar een mooi kort verhaal over geschreven.
Hij filosofeert over het Fermi paradox waarom we geen sporen van buitenaards leven zien.

1 daarvan is dat we in een "gevangenis" leven van grofweg ons zonnestelsel. Op den duur gaat Malafant (de terugkerende hoofdpersoon in de korte verhalen) een laser bouwen om ge gevangenis te testen. Hij wil een echo opwekken van een planeet rond een andere zon (ongeveer op 4 lichtjaar) dus zou hij met 8 jaar antwoord moeten hebben...
Hij redeneert namelijk dat het enorm veel energie moet kosten om het expiriment in stand te houden (wij zijn het expiriment) en de overtreffe stap te veel energie gaat kosten voor de aliens (dat is de "schil" uitbreiden van de grens van ons zonnestelsel naar de rest van de melkweg)

Uiteindelijk heeft malefant gelijk en stort onze realiteit in elkaar.

Misschien willen eventuele aliens ons daarom niet in de ruimte hebben...
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
  vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 15:03:49 #271
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En de Watskeburt?!
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quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 15:00 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Stephen Baxter heeft daar een mooi kort verhaal over geschreven.
Hij filosofeert over het Fermi paradox waarom we geen sporen van buitenaards leven zien.

1 daarvan is dat we in een "gevangenis" leven van grofweg ons zonnestelsel. Op den duur gaat Malafant (de terugkerende hoofdpersoon in de korte verhalen) een laser bouwen om ge gevangenis te testen. Hij wil een echo opwekken van een planeet rond een andere zon (ongeveer op 4 lichtjaar) dus zou hij met 8 jaar antwoord moeten hebben...
Hij redeneert namelijk dat het enorm veel energie moet kosten om het expiriment in stand te houden (wij zijn het expiriment) en de overtreffe stap te veel energie gaat kosten voor de aliens (dat is de "schil" uitbreiden van de grens van ons zonnestelsel naar de rest van de melkweg)

Uiteindelijk heeft malefant gelijk en stort onze realiteit in elkaar.

Misschien willen eventuele aliens ons daarom niet in de ruimte hebben...
Interessante theorie van iemand die een hele andere insteek heeft maar uiteindelijk wel alle punten van de huidige BNW kijk op een globaal complot bevat. Vooral dat laatste stukje sluit duidelijk op een visuele matrix aan.. een fantasie gebaseerd op de hersenen.
- Maybe O.D.B My Long Distance Family -
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
  vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 15:11:27 #272
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bedankt voor de vis
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Dat laatste sluit daar duidelijk NIET op aan, anders zouden ze zonder al te veel moeite de "gevangenis" kunnen uitbreiden.
Het is juist een fysieke gevangenis, daar gaat het expiriment stuk...
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
  vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 16:21:15 #273
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En de Watskeburt?!
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quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 15:11 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Dat laatste sluit daar duidelijk NIET op aan, anders zouden ze zonder al te veel moeite de "gevangenis" kunnen uitbreiden.
Het is juist een fysieke gevangenis, daar gaat het expiriment stuk...
Fysiek als in dat je het kan beetpakken? Nee dat zeker niet.
- Maybe O.D.B My Long Distance Family -
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
  vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 16:46:43 #274
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quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 16:21 schreef Ticker het volgende:

[..]

Fysiek als in dat je het kan beetpakken? Nee dat zeker niet.
yup, als in dat je het kan vastpakken.

Zonder zich er al te veel mee te willen bemoeien hebben de aliens zich in een naar pakket gewurmd. Ze moesten namelijk de projectie oprekken van een schil rond de aarde, tot een schil rond de aarde incl. maan.
naar incl. mars, jupiter enz. enz. :)
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
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quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 14:14 schreef Maurice76 het volgende:
Dutch, waarom is Rafic Hariri (dat is toch degene waar het om gaat? Die vermoord is in februari 2005?) zo belangrijk in die hele Tunguska / nucleaire HD design? Wat is zijn betrokkenheid erin? Als ik je berichten lees, is hij een centrale spil in dit alles, maar ik zie het verband eerlijk gezegd niet. Wat heeft deze man tijdens zijn leven te maken gehad met de andere zaken waar je hem aan koppelt?
Rafik Hariri werd vermoord op de Hyper Dimensional Cube datum op macro niveau. Wat 9/11 was voor de HD Tetrahedron, is de moord op Hariri voor de HD Cube. Ik heb consequent gezegd dat achteraf zal blijken dat de moord op Hariri de initiele gebeurtenis was in een ontwikkelend oorlogs scenario,

Als zo'n oorlog uitbreekt ligt de nucleaire optie op tafel. Hariri zelf staat hier buiten, hij is vermoord met een politiek doel. Als je de info er op na leest was het duidelijk dat hij vermoord werd om Syrie de schuld te geven en als je het HDDesign materiaal gelezen hebt dat weet je dat Syrie waarschijnlijk niet achter deze aanslag zit. De UN heeft een speciaal tribunaal in het leven geroepen om de schuldigen te straffen en binnenkort zijn daar ontwikkelingen in te verwachten. Het moge duidelijk zijn dat de situatie rond de moord op Hariri inmiddels explosief te noemen is met de mogelijke beschuldiging aan het adres van ( door Iran gesteende ) Hezbollah en de claim dat de Israeli's achter de aanslag zaten. Wat te denken van Bush? Die wist meteen te roepen dat Assad het gedaan had........

Doel van deze aandacht voor de zaak Hariri is om te voorkomen dat er inderdaad een high-impact oorlog uitbreekt, maar dat het karma een subtielere weg vind tot uitdrukking.
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