VS/Israel - Iran [#28]: Centraal Topic

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 17:59 schreef Airforce1 het volgende:

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Maar ik denk dat die eensgezindheid juist gevaarlijk is, als het merendeel de VS gaan zien als een echte vijand zal dat alleen maar meer draagvlak creëren voor de rechtse regering en dat valt ook wel terug te trekken op de VS naar 9-11 door een vijand te creëren en steun te krijgen van het volk.


http://www.presstv.ir/default.aspx

Iemand bekend met bovenstaande site? in de zin van overheidsbemoeienis of iets dergelijks.

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 18:05 schreef Atlanticus het volgende:

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Ik snap die eerste zin niet. En nee.

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 18:12 schreef Atlanticus het volgende:
Is Iran zo rechts dan?

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 11:42 schreef MoltiSanti het volgende:

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Niet,
Iran is helemaal niet gebaat bij vriendschap.

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 18:26 schreef Airforce1 het volgende:

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nu Ahmadinejad aan de macht is, is het wel wat verschoven naar rechts

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 18:27 schreef Atlanticus het volgende:

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Rechts en links zijn vage begrippen. Maar goed. Als je nationalistischer bedoelt ben ik het met je eens.

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 18:26 schreef Fortune_Cookie het volgende:

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Come again?

Kun je deze volstrekt idiote bewering ook onderbouwen?

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 10:11 schreef Terecht het volgende:

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Als ik goed naar het plaatje kijk zie ik dat cesium-137 vanaf het begin al aanwezig was, maar blijkbaar een langere halfwaardetijd heeft dan de andere isotopen. Daaruit zou je dus kunnen concluderen dat de straling afneemt, maar dat zegt niets over de grootte van de totale straling zelf.

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Biden warns Israel off any attack on Iran

Vice President Joe Biden tells CNN that the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would be 'ill advised' to try to strike Iranian nuclear facilities.
By Paul Richter

April 8, 2009

Reporting from Washington — Vice President Joe Biden issued a high-level admonishment to Israel's new government Tuesday that it would be "ill advised" to launch a military strike against Iran.

Biden said in a CNN interview that he does not believe newly installed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would take such a step. Even so, his comment underscored a gap between the conservative new Israeli government and the Obama White House on a series of questions, including the Israeli-Palestinian peace process and Iran.

While the Obama administration has made a series of recent overtures to Tehran, the Israelis have grown more confrontational out of concern that the Islamic Republic's increasing nuclear know-how could one day become an existential threat.

Netanyahu signaled several times during his election campaign that he would not tolerate a nuclear-armed Iran. "I promise that if I am elected, Iran will not acquire nuclear arms," he said in one appearance, "and this implies everything necessary to carry this out."

With his brief comment Tuesday, Biden became the highest-ranking administration official to caution the Jewish state against a military strike. In the interview, Biden was asked whether he was concerned that Netanyahu might strike Iranian nuclear facilities.

"I don't believe Prime Minister Netanyahu would do that. I think he would be ill advised to do that," Biden said.

"And so my level of concern is no different than it was a year ago."

But many U.S. officials believe Israel is serious. Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, head of U.S. forces in the Middle East, told senators this month that the Israeli government may be "so threatened by the prospect of an Iranian nuclear weapon that it would take preemptive military action to derail or delay it."

Other U.S. officials have made it clear in the past that they would prefer that Israel not carry out a strike against Iran. Navy Adm. Michael G. Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, cautioned last summer against military action.

"This is a very unstable part of the world," he said then. "And I don't need it to be more unstable."

Among other concerns, U.S. Defense Department officials worry that Iran might retaliate by striking at U.S. troops in neighboring Iraq.

Differences between U.S. and Israeli officials also are emerging on key issues involving the Palestinians. Netanyahu has not embraced Washington's goal of an independent Palestinian state, and some of his key supporters favor expanded Jewish settlements in the West Bank, an idea criticized by President Obama.

But U.S. views are important to the Israelis. Steven J. Rosen, a former policy director of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, an influential lobbying group, said a decision by Israel to attack Iran's nuclear facilities "depends to a large extent on the impact such a strike might have on the United States." He made the comment in a blog, the Obama Mideast Monitor.

Many top officials in the Obama administration have said they believe the costs of a U.S. attack on Iran would outweigh any benefits, and they are considered less likely to favor military action than the Bush administration.

One hint of the Obama administration's intentions may lie in its choice of top experts.

Richard C. Holbrooke, the administration's representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, has hired longtime Iran expert Vali Nasr. Dennis Ross, senior administration advisor for Southwest Asia, has hired Ray Takeyh, another veteran Iran expert.

Both Nasr and Takeyh have advocated diplomatic engagement with Tehran.

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Op zondag 29 maart 2009 20:46 schreef MoltiSanti het volgende:

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heb ik hier boven al gedaan.

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Iran boos over Israëlische dreigementen

New York, 15 april. Iran heeft gisteren geëist dat de Veiligheidsraad van de Verenigde Naties een duidelijk antwoord geeft op Israëlische dreigementen om een aanval te lanceren op de Iraanse nucleaire installaties.

De Iraanse VN-ambassadeur, Mohammad Khazaee, reageerde daarmee in een brief aan de voorzitter van de Veiligheidsraad op uitspraken van de Israëlische president Shimon Peres. Deze dreigde twee dagen geleden Iran aan te vallen als een dialoog over het Iraanse nucleaire programma waarvoor het Westen Teheran heeft uitgenodigd niet leidt tot stopzetting van het Iraanse uraniumverrijkingsprogramma.

In een interview met de Atlantic Monthly waarschuwde de Israëlische premier Netanyahu vorige maand dat Israël zich gedwongen zal voelen Iran aan te vallen als de Amerikaanse regering Iran niet verhindert kernwapens te ontwikkelen. Netanyahu heeft Iran „een gevaar voor de mensheid” genoemd. Iran ontkent overigens kernwapens te ontwikkelen.

De Iraanse ambassadeur verwees in zijn brief naar het VN-Handvest, dat de lidstaten voorschrijft zich te onthouden van dreigementen met of gebruik van geweld tegen andere landen. Volgens hem weerspiegelen „deze schandelijke dreigementen” de „agressieve en oorlogszuchtige aard van het zionistische regime”. Iran erkent Israëls bestaansrecht niet. President Ahmadinejad heeft diverse malen gezegd dat het Israëlische regime „van de kaart zal worden gevaagd”.

De Amerikaanse regering kondigde vorige week een nieuwe inspanning aan om de controverse met Iran langs diplomatieke weg op te lossen. Volgens Israëlische kranten dringt Jeruzalem er bij Washington op aan Iran niet meer dan enkele maanden de tijd te geven. Daarop zou Washington echter niet zijn ingegaan. Diplomaten van landen die bij de contacten met Iran zijn betrokken, zeiden gisteren dat het Westen zijn strategie heroverweegt. Een diplomaat bevestigde een eerder bericht van The Financial Times dat een optie is dat de eis van bevriezing van uraniumverrijking wordt geschrapt.

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Iran canceled air show when Russia warned Israel planned to destroy all 140 warplanes
DEBKAfile's Iranian and intelligence sources disclose that Moscow warned Tehran Friday April 17 that Israel was planning to destroy all 140 fighter-bombers concentrated at the Mehr-Abad Air Force base for an air show over Tehran on Iran's Army Day the following day. The entire fleet was accordingly removed to remote bases and the display cancelled.

In the first week of April, Tehran announced it would stage its biggest air show ever to dramatize a ceremonial military parade in the capital on April 18. Iran would show the world that it is capable of fighting off an Israeli attack on its nuclear facilities. Instead only four aircraft flew over the saluting stand. Iranian media explained that the big show was cancelled due to "bad weather and poor visibility," when in fact Tehran basked in warm and sunny weather.

Moscow had informed the Iranians that its spy satellites and intelligence sources had picked up preparations at Israeli Air Force bases to destroy the 140 warplanes, the bulk of the Iranian air force, on the ground the night before the display, leaving its nuclear sites without aerial defense. A similar operation wiped out the entire Egyptian air fleet in the early hours of the 1967 war.

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'IDF staged drills over Gibraltar, in preparation for Iran strike'
By Haaretz Service

The Israel Air Force recently staged military exercises over between Israel and the British colony of Gibraltar near southern Spain, the French newspaper L'Express reported on Saturday.

The fact that the drills were held 3,800 kilometers away from Israel "confirms that the Israel Defense Forces is making concrete preparations" to attack Iran over its refusal to cooperate with the international community over its contentious nuclear program, according to L'Express.

Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed last week that Israel would not attack Iran even if the international sanctions against Tehran fail to convince President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to give up his country's nuclear program, in an interview with the Austrian daily Kleine Zeitung.

But The London Times reported a few weeks ago that the IDF was indeed making preparations to be able to launch a massive aerial assault on Iran's nuclear facilities, to be carried out within days of being given the go-ahead by Israel's government.

"Israel wants to know that if its forces were given the green light they could strike at Iran in a matter of days, even hours. They are making preparations on every level for this eventuality. The message to Iran is that the threat is not just words," one senior Israeli defense official told The Times.

The London Times report appeared to be an Israeli message to Iran conveying its capability and readiness to prevent Tehran from developing nuclear weapons.

The report included a nation-wide home front drill, scheduled for June, among what it calls Israel's intensive preparations for the possibility of an attack, aiming to prepare Israel's civilians for the possible consequences of an attack on Iran.

"We would not make the threat [against Iran] without the force to back it. There has been a recent move, a number of on-the-ground preparations, that indicate Israel's willingness to act," another official from Israel's intelligence community told the Times.

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Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed last week that Israel would not attack Iran even if the international sanctions against Tehran fail to convince President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to give up his country's nuclear program, in an interview with the Austrian daily Kleine Zeitung.

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Op zondag 3 mei 2009 09:55 schreef MoltiSanti het volgende:

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1082625.html

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Report: CIA Chief Warned Israel Not to Bomb Iran in Secret Visit

The director of the CIA was recently sent on a secret mission to Israel to warn its leaders not to launch a surprise attack on Iran without notifying the Obama administration, the Times of London reported on Thursday.

FOX News could not immediately confirm the report.



As Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, prepares to visit Washington, it emerged on Thursday that Leon Panetta went to Israel two weeks ago. He sought assurances from Netanyahu and Ehud Barak, the defense minister, that their hawkish new government would not attack Iran without alerting Washington.

Concerns have been rising that Netanyahu could launch a strike on Tehran’s atomic program, in the same way that Israel hit Saddam Hussein’s Osirak reactor in 1981. Israel has been preparing for such an eventuality. It has carried out long-distance maneuvers and is due to hold its largest civil defense drills this summer. The country’s leaders reportedly told Panetta that they did not "intend to surprise the U.S. on Iran."

Netanyahu will leave for Washington this weekend, where he will meet with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Obama, whom he will try to convince of the need for tougher action against Iran.

Obama favors trying to engage Tehran, but his efforts have been received coolly by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The Israeli leader is expected to insist that the U.S. stays focused on Iran, rather than tackling stalled talks with the Palestinians.

Netanyahu has held meetings with Arab leaders this week, including President Mubarak of Egypt and King Abdullah of Jordan. Both Sunni leaders share Israel’s fears of a resurgent Shia Iran.