Israel - Hamas de oorlog nr. 55 Zaaien is Oogsten !

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 18:59 schreef PhysicsRules het volgende:
Iran probeert wapens naar Gaza te smokkelen:
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bron: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1062242.html

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 05:26 schreef Tiesemans het volgende:
Nee, de staatsterroristen van Israel hebben het onschuldige volk ongelooflijk aangepakt. Bijvoorbeeld door bewust kleine kinderen te vermoorden en te verminken.
* Tiesemans]Kijk het zijn dus dit soort zinnen waardoor ik een keer met de neus op de feiten gedrukt word wat betreft de vraag wat voor een labiele idioot er achter de formulering van zo'n zin schuil gaat ...
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* Tiesemans]Zeg het is bijna Carnaval Meki ...Heb jij je Hamas kostuum al besteld bij de plaatselijke Carnaval winkel ?!Incl je nep mitrailleur en bom gordel ?Een tip kom niet bij ons het café binnen want dan kom je er verkleed als lijk weer buiten.
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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 23:15 schreef Meki het volgende:

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Ik reageer niet op mensen die hoogmoedig blijven en niet de waarheid onder de ogen zien.
enkel hoogmoedig blijven.

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 18:55 schreef PhysicsRules het volgende:
Tuurlijk, haal Feiglin erbij:
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Hij is zelfs in Israel veroordeeld voor zijn activiteiten. Niet bepaald een toonaangevend persoon dus.

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 23:36 schreef Specularium het volgende:

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Ziehier de reden dat dit conflict nooit gaat worden opgelost.
Vooral Holocaust blijven roepen (zo hard en vaak mogelijk), en geen discussie aangaan met tegenstanders.

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 23:44 schreef Meki het volgende:

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Een discussie kan je niet aangaan met iemand die enkel de belangen verdedigt van israel.
maar niet voor de mensheid en rechtvaardigheid en vrede.
waarom zou ik met mensen gaan discussieren die Gaza-slachtoffers toejuichen en hoogmoedig spelen |? waarom ? is enkel tijdverspilling.

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 23:52 schreef Specularium het volgende:

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Waarom zou het zo zwart-wit zijn?
Het is niet zo dat iedereen die de kant van Israel kiest aan het juichen is vanwege de doden, het is vrij absurd om dat te stellen.

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 23:52 schreef Specularium het volgende:

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Waarom zou het zo zwart-wit zijn?
Het is niet zo dat iedereen die de kant van Israel kiest aan het juichen is vanwege de doden, het is vrij absurd om dat te stellen.

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 23:13 schreef TeenWolf het volgende:

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bron: israel media

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Op zaterdag 7 februari 2009 23:58 schreef Meki het volgende:

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Je kan niet voor een land zijn die alle rechten en oorlogswetten boycot om een massamoord te plegen.

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Op zondag 8 februari 2009 00:03 schreef moussie het volgende:

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Het absurde is dat het gepresenteerd wordt alsof het iets is dat niet zou mogen, wapens invoeren om jezelf te verdedigen .. en het gaat erin als zoete koek ..
hoeveel wapens heet Israël recentelijk ingevoerd, om zichzelf te verdedigen ?

en voor iemand zegt 'ja maar, het is geen land' .. dat onze administratie niet klopt met hun wereldbeeld is inmiddels wel duidelijk

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French TV apologises over footage mix-up

PARIS: France’s public broadcaster was forced to apologise to viewers yesterday after it mistakenly used amateur footage shot in 2005 to illustrate a report on the current Gaza conflict.
France 2 television on Monday broadcast part of an amateur video presented in a voiceover commentary as showing the fallout from an Israeli air strike on a civilian area in Gaza on January 1.
Dating from September 2005, the video, which has been widely circulated on the Internet, actually shows civilians wounded in the accidental explosion of a pick-up truck loaded with Hamas rockets at a rally in Jabaliya refugee camp.
Alerted by the French website LePost.fr, France 2 admitted its mistake yesterday and made a formal apology to viewers in its midday news broadcast.
“It is an error on our behalf. There was an internal malfunction in the checking of information,” a France 2 executive told AFP.
France 2’s head of news reporting, Etienne Leenhardt, told LePost.fr that the sequence was “intended to illustrate the war of images on the Internet. The people who put it together worked too fast”.
Israel unleashed its “Operation Cast Lead” on Hamas on December 27 with a massive air bombardment of Gaza, and poured in thousands of ground troops a week later.
Since then, at least 580 Palestinians have been killed, nearly 100 of them children, and more than 2,700 wounded, according to Gaza medics. – AFP

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Israel seals borders, blast kills 15 Palestinians

JERUSALEM (AP) — The Israeli military on Saturday sealed off the West Bank and Gaza Strip in response to Palestinian rocket attacks.

The army said 21 rockets fired from Gaza fell in Israel on Saturday, injuring five Israelis.

Israel earlier responded with airstrikes on what the army called Hamas weapons facilities. The attacks were the first airstrikes in Gaza since Israel withdrew from the coastal strip last week after 38 years of occupation.

At a Hamas rally Friday, a truck filled with masked militants and homemade weapons exploded, killing at least 15 Palestinians and wounding 80 — including children — bringing a grisly and terrifying end to one of the last gatherings by armed groups celebrating Israel's Gaza pullout.

The blast sent a huge cloud of white smoke over the mass festivities, a sea of green Hamas flags and thousands of people gathered at Jebaliya, a Palestinian refugee camp that was the scene of harsh fighting between militants and Israeli soldiers during the past five years of violence.

After initial confusion, people began running away from the rally and gunmen fired in the air. People wailed in grief as others tried to tend to the mangled and dismembered bodies of the dead and wounded.

Mishandled explosives apparently caused the blast, which came a day before an agreement by militants not to publicly parade weapons is to take effect.

Witnesses said many children were among the casualties.

Hamas said six militants were killed, including Jihad Shaleal, head of the group's military wing in Jebaliya. Hamas blamed Israel, but the Israeli military denied any connection. Palestinian security officials said the blast was an accident.

"There was smoke all over, and then we saw people in pieces, but we couldn't make out what really happened," said 18-year-old Hazem Abu Rashad.

Since Israel left Gaza last week, ending a 38-year military occupation, militant groups have held rallies throughout the Mediterranean coastal strip. Masked militants paraded with rockets, grenades and rifles in celebrations lauding their campaign of suicide attacks and other violence as having forced Israel's withdrawal from land Palestinians claim for a future state.

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, struggling to combat the chaos and the public display of arms in Gaza, wrested a pledge from militant groups to stop holding military-style parades with weapons after Saturday.

"There is absolutely no excuse to parade weapons in the streets," Palestinian National Security Adviser Jibril Rajoub said Friday. "The (militant groups) are merely trying to express their power and their capabilities. I would hope Palestinian society will soon be rid of all of these images."

The explosion came in the middle of the celebration. The militants are extremely popular with young Palestinians, and teenagers surrounded the pickup before the blast, said Abu Rashad, who was just a few feet away. He said three militants with two homemade rockets were in the truck's bed, and three or four other militants rode inside.

Men carried bloody body parts and corpses wrapped in blankets to nearby cars. At Shifa Hospital, doctors treated patients on the emergency room floor after they ran out of beds. Masked Hamas men wheeled in casualties.

Palestinian hospital officials said 15 people were killed and 80 others injured. Dozens of children were wounded in the blast, health officials said.

Hamas swiftly claimed Israeli aircraft had targeted the militants with a missile. "We will avenge the blood of our martyrs," said Nizar Rayan, a Hamas leader.

But Palestinian officials said the explosion was set off by the mishandling of explosives. The Interior Ministry issued a statement calling on Hamas "to shoulder its responsibility for these ... explosions instead of making accusations against others."

An accidental explosion would be only the latest in a string of deadly mishaps for militant groups in Gaza.

A Hamas weapons warehouse exploded this month in Gaza City, killing six people. Hamas claimed it was an Israeli attack, but Palestinian security forces found the blast was an accident caused by the militants.

During an Islamic Jihad rally at the abandoned Jewish settlement of Netzarim last week, a gunman died after accidentally shooting himself in the head.

Even after the blast Friday, seven or eight gunmen stood in the back of another truck riding through Gaza, using their feet to stop a half-dozen rockets from bouncing around in the bed.

Elsewhere Friday, Israeli forces killed three Palestinian gunmen in a West Bank raid.

Troops entered the village of Ilar near Tulkarem after midnight and surrounded a building to arrest senior Islamic Jihad militants inside. Three gunmen fled and were shot dead after opening fire on pursuing Israeli troops, the military said.

Abbas called the killing a "dangerous and unjustified action. We are exerting efforts to maintain the (February) cease-fire and they are doing this action without any reason."

Despite the truce, Israel continues to target cells of Islamic Jihad, which has been involved in several attacks on Israeli targets. The group launched four homemade rockets into Israel on Friday afternoon, claiming it was retaliation for the raid. The rockets caused no injuries or damage.

Meanwhile, Palestinians temporarily opened the crossing between Gaza and Egypt, hoping to set a precedent and pressure Israel to reach a permanent border agreement with them.

Israel shut down Rafah, Gaza's main gateway to the outside world, before pulling out. It wants Rafah sealed for six months for a technological upgrade and to test Palestinian ability to take control. In the meantime, Palestinians are to use an alternative crossing in Israel, to be opened next week.

Israel, however, approved opening Rafah for two days starting Friday, mainly to allow the passage of people seeking medical treatment or studying or living abroad. Several thousand travelers arrived at the once-heavily guarded crossing Friday morning, some sitting on suitcases and napping as they waited.

Thousands of Palestinians broke through the Gaza-Egypt border last week after Israel withdrew and before the frontier was sealed. Mark Regev, an Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, said Israel was concerned by the border chaos last week and doesn't want the crossing permanently reopened until security is upgraded.

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Op zondag 8 februari 2009 03:11 schreef Kees22 het volgende:

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Dat verbaast me ook steeds: waarom zou de Palestijnse Autoriteit, in de vorm van El Fatah of Hamas, geen wapens mogen invoeren, terwijl Israel zich wel het recht voorbehoudt om wapens uit allerlei landen in te voeren.
Waarom heet de invoer van wapens opeens smokkel?
Evenals trouwens de invoer van geiten en andere levensmiddelen?

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Op zondag 8 februari 2009 00:03 schreef moussie het volgende:

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Het absurde is dat het gepresenteerd wordt alsof het iets is dat niet zou mogen, wapens invoeren om jezelf te verdedigen .. en het gaat erin als zoete koek ..
hoeveel wapens heet Israël recentelijk ingevoerd, om zichzelf te verdedigen ?

en voor iemand zegt 'ja maar, het is geen land' .. dat onze administratie niet klopt met hun wereldbeeld is inmiddels wel duidelijk

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U.S. Jew 'stabbed in the face by Palestinians in Jerusalem'

Three Palestinian youths are believed to have stabbed an American Jewish youth in the face near the Hebrew University campus in Jerusalem late Saturday.

The victim was later hospitalized for treatment in light-to-moderate condition.

The victim said he was returning from a friend's home on the capital's Hebron Road, when he lost his way and asked three Arab youths for directions to the university's dormitories.

The Palestinians subsequently pulled out a blade and stabbed him in the face and hand, he said.

In a separate incident Sunday morning, a 20-year-old Israel Defense Forces soldier fought off an assailant who tried to stab him in Jaffa.

The attacker later fled, after which police embarked on a manhunt to find him.

The soldier was unharmed in the attempted stabbing, the motivation of which is still being investigated.

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Qassam strikes Negev as talks on Gaza truce progress

A Qassam rocket fired from the Gaza Strip struck the western Negev on Sunday, as talks to bring a truce between Israel and Hamas were progressing.

The Israel Defense Forces said one car was set ablaze and several others were damaged by shrapnel. No injuries were reported.

Militants have sporadically fired rockets into Israel since declaring their cease-fire at the end of Israel's three-week Gaza operation on Jan.18. They also killed one soldier in a border bombing attack.

IDF troops have killed three Palestinians in border shootings.

Also on Sunday, IDF troops arrested a wanted militant in a village north of Ramallah in the West Bank.

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Report: Israel to free Marwan Barghouti as part of Shalit deal

Israel has agreed to free jailed Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti as part of a deal to secure the release of abducted Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, the pan-Arab newspaper Al-Hayat reported Sunday.

According to the daily, Barghouti will be among the 1,000 Palestinian prisoners Israel will free in the exchange. But the London-based paper also said that Israel has refused to release Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine leader Ahmed Sa'adat.

Israel has also agreed to release 350 of the 372 prisoners on a list presented by Hamas, Al-Hayat reported.

Barghouti is the former head of Tanzim, the armed-wing of Fatah. He was arrested in a raid by the Israel Defense Forces in 2002 and in 2004 an Israeli court sentenced him to five life sentences for five murders of Israeli citizens.

The report came as significant progress had been made in the indirect negotiations between Israel and Hamas regarding a new cease-fire formula in the Gaza Strip that will also include the reopening of the border crossings and the release of Shalit.

However, much still depends on Hamas politburo chief Khaled Meshal in Damascus approving the deal.

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At this point the following are believed to be the main points of the deal that is being formulated:

A cease-fire for 18 months in the Gaza Strip (unrelated to the West Bank). Once the cease-fire comes to an end, it will be possible to extend it for another 18 months. Hamas has promised to prevent attacks from the Gaza Strip and the IDF will avoid attacks of its own.

A full reopening of the crossings between Israel and the Strip, which means more than mere humanitarian assistance will be allowed to cross into Gaza. Israel has conditioned a full reopening of the crossings on the release of Gilad Shalit.

Gilad Shalit will be returned to Israel in the near future, in return for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

Reopening of the Rafah border crossing. Following Egyptian insistence, the crossing will be run by Palestinian Authority officials loyal to President Mahmoud Abbas. However, unlike a similar 2005 agreement, Hamas will be allowed to maintain a presence at the crossings.


This formula appears to be acceptable to Israel, Egypt and the Hamas leadership in the Gaza Strip, under Ismail Haniyeh. The main obstacle at this point may lie in Damascus, since Meshal may block it. Also opposed to the formula under negotiation is the head of Hamas' military wing, Ahmed Ja'abari.