[Xbox 360 #324] Waar de Xbox 360 het onderwerp is!

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 18:02 schreef gijsje79 het volgende:
Zou es leuk zijn als ze een keer een goed adventure spel uitbrengen ala Jak & Daxter.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:28 schreef Digixz het volgende:

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Crash of the Titans is toch zoiets?

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:27 schreef Sackboy het volgende:
Mensen, is het niet beter om alleen de hyperlinks naar die nieuwsberichten te plaatsen, ipv de hele berichten te quoten? Het wordt zo een beetje onoverzichtelijk. Als iemand het hele bericht wil lezen kan toch gewoon op de hyperlink klikken? Tis maar een idee..

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:23 schreef RacerDKB het volgende:

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:28 schreef Digixz het volgende:

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Crash of the Titans is toch zoiets?

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:32 schreef Strolie75 het volgende:

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En waarom is Sega Rally een spel? Fatsoenlijke argumenten aandragen is blijkbaar weer teveel moeite. Maar goed, je hebt weer de goedkeuring van een ezel als Edwinuss. Heb je toch weer een stukje zelfvoldoening aan het Internet-abonnement van paps en mams te danken.

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Maar goed, je hebt weer de goedkeuring van een ezel als Edwinuss.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:27 schreef Sackboy het volgende:
Mensen, is het niet beter om alleen de hyperlinks naar die nieuwsberichten te plaatsen, ipv de hele berichten te quoten? Het wordt zo een beetje onoverzichtelijk. Als iemand het hele bericht wil lezen kan toch gewoon op de hyperlink klikken? Tis maar een idee..

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:33 schreef Edwinuss het volgende:

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sjonnie.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:32 schreef Strolie75 het volgende:

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En waarom is Sega Rally een spel? Fatsoenlijke argumenten aandragen is blijkbaar weer teveel moeite. Maar goed, je hebt weer de goedkeuring van een ezel als Edwinuss. Heb je toch weer een stukje zelfvoldoening aan het Internet-abonnement van paps en mams te danken.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 15:09 schreef Wessiej het volgende:

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Hoor net dat ik mijn gta 4 special edition de 24e (waarschijnlijk) kan ophalen

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:31 schreef Edwinuss het volgende:

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En ik wil dat dan ook graag zien met al die klote screens.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:33 schreef Cyberia18 het volgende:

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http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/939007.asp?q=Titans

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:39 schreef Cyberia18 het volgende:
Wat een zwijnenstal is dit toch geworden. Heeft Demon vervroegd vakantie genomen trouwens?

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:36 schreef Nick-GizMo het volgende:

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En welke winkel mag dat zijn dan?
of is het die winkel van een kennis van je (tenminste dat dacht ik ooit te lezen, dat je goeie vrienden was met iemand van een game winkel)

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:13 schreef Strolie75 het volgende:
1Up Fallout 3 Preview

With no magazine to finish this week, executive editor Shawn Elliott and editor-in-chief Jeff Green went to a hotel in downtown San Francisco in the middle of the day, sat down on a couch, and got a demo of Fallout 3 from Bethesda's Pete Hines. Here is their report.
Jeff Green: I've played a lot of games in my life, and a lot of weird games, and a lot of weird games that have had weird beginnings. But I don't know if I've ever played a game that started with me emerging from my mother's womb.

Shawn Elliot: Prey's sphincters are as close as I've come, but sure, Fallout 3's "opening" moments are more than a perineum away. I'm sorry. I really wrote that. Seriously, though, the cunning way that Bethesda takes the thinking behind traditional tutorials and character creation interfaces and naturally integrates these game conventions into the game's narrative is impressive. You crawl around a playpen in first-person perspective; you press a button to cry and call for daddy; you learn about strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, and other RPG traits by browsing children's books -- has any game truly attempted to tell the story of a life from birth to death?

Jeff: This is great. Now anyone who Googles "womb" and "sphincter" will come straight to this article.

Shawn: And perineum -- where heaven meets hell. T'aint an RPG, t'aint an FPS.

Jeff: Uh, anyway. Yeah, Bethesda did that same kind of cool in-game character creation in Oblivion -- but this one is so startling because of this whole birth/baby thing. I mean, it's kind of a bold and strange thing to do given how many (male) gamers need their testosterone validated in their games. And Fallout 3 does have this dark, badass image to it. So gamers are going to bring the game home, rip open the box, and think they're about to start blowing the heads off radiated mutants...and instead they're going to be crawling around in a playpen saying "Dada." Yes, this is essentially just the opening tutorial and won't take up more than 10 minutes, but still, I can see tons of guys yelling "WTF" at their screens, and praying that their brother or mom or friends don't walk in to see them playing the baby simulator.

Shawn: Ten minutes of infancy, that is. Then comes the jump cut that brings us to our 10th birthday/introduction to dialog trees. No matter how hard you try to guarantee that you'll grow into a freckle-faced, pig-nosed person in need of a Youtube video blog, you can rest assured that the other Garbage Pail kids at your party are uglier than you'll ever be. Bethesda's faces are far, far better here than any in Oblivion, but to be frank, I doubt that Vault 101, where we're born, is really radioactivity-free.

The neat thing is, as you choose to be bratty or craven with these kids, your karma stats change to reflect your behavior. Oh, and the other 10-year-olds whispering about forming a Greaser Snake gang? Bethesda's Pete Hines leads us to think that we'll encounter them later in life after they've done just that.

Jeff: Yeah, with all due respect to Bethesda's immense talent in many areas, I don't think I'd go to them for plastic surgery. Anyway, yes, karma factors big in Fallout 3, and the choices you make, starting way back from that 10th birthday party of yours, will follow you throughout your life, affect how NPCs will react to you (start being a bad guy, and other bad guys will come out of the woodwork to...do bad things with you) and even affect the game's ending. Bethesda is promising something like a zillion endings -- okay, 500, but that sounds equally preposterous -- all based on the decisions you make and actions you take, however minute they might seem to you at the time. And though what I wrote makes it sound like I don't believe they can pull it off, I actually do. The original Fallout did that very thing.

Okay, so back to the demo: They skipped the rest of the childhood stuff at this point -- including the key narrative events that lead you to leave Vault 101 and begin the real game -- and then show us hooking up with good ol' Dogmeat, the canine companion from the original game who fanboys prayed would make it into this one. Well, he did. Note, however, that this is not the same Dogmeat, since this game takes place over 100 years after the first two games. I think I might like this Dogmeat better though -- he does some cool tricks. Being able to send him out on missions to fetch items you need should reduce time spent wandering the world yourself looking for crap. I thought that was a cool touch.

Shawn: Totally. He fights for you, too. And when you order him to hunt for weapons or food, he'll wander around the world actually searching for stuff. In other words, he won't simply slip off-screen and suddenly return with whatever bounty an algorithm bestows on him. And if you take proper care of your pet, he'll follow you to the finale of what Hines is now saying is a 70-hour long game. And that's about as much time Jeff has spent with his real bitch.

Here's what I'm wondering. Players develop addictions to the performance enhancing drugs they take, as well as the curative alcohol they drink. We know that Dogmeat heals with the same stimpack treatment, but does he develop similar addictions? Is that an asinine question? When Fallout 3 allegedly offers over 500 outcomes, it's tempting to think that things are as deep as that. After all, this is the developer whose Elder Scrolls RPGs made vampirism a viable survival strategy. However, I was a bit bummed when Hines said we won't be able to become mutants.

Jeff: And that bitch's name is Shawn Elliott. So Dogmeat -- well the other Dogmeat -- fought for you in Fallout as well. Dogmeat 2 here is more versatile and better trained. And, yeah, I liked the fact that the canine will only find items that actually really exist in the game world -- items you yourself could find. Very cool.

I don't think the dog can get addicted to drugs, no. You'll have to make that game yourself. (And, wow, I'm glad you didn't ask that question at the demo, or I would have had to pretend I didn't know you.) I do hear you though -- Bethesda does tend to go deep when thinking things through in their world-building. And to be clear, when they say "500 endings," I think we are talking about granularity mostly. Like, there are probably just a few real endings on the big plot points, but you'll hear anecdotes in voice-overs, and/or maybe with art montages, saying what happened to this person, or that town, depending on your actions throughout the game. Or maybe I'm just making all that up. And I keep wanting to type now that your idea of the player becoming a mutant is a stupid one, except, unfortunately, the more I think about it, the cooler that sounds.

Shawn: Nor did I ask about downloadable Dogmeat armor. That wouldn't have been funny, but then it wasn't funny when another media dude at this demo watched what has got to be one of the finest opening scenes in a first-person game this side of BioShock and Half-Life 2, and then decided to ask about downloadable content. Really? Hines says 500 endings and, what, you want to buy a five-hundred-and-first?

Interestingly, the fact that we'll have different Fallout 3 stories to tell when we meet at the nonexistent watercooler or Brawndo vending machine bothers a few anal-retentive types. I've read message board posts by people saying they'll feel shortchanged if they can't experience every possible outcome in a single play-through. They'd rather not miss a moment than make any meaningful decisions, such as whether or not to nuke the town of Megaton (where detonating the dormant atom bomb in the city's center will wipe the place and its population off the map).

Jeff: Well, yeah, but the game is an RPG, and RPGs are ostensibly about making decisions. At some point you need to (or should) commit. If you need to see every available outcome of every action, then play the game 500 times or shut up. Let the rest of us actually enjoy taking the risk, since most games don't offer any.

The other big decision that I guess you'll constantly be making is how to approach combat. Do you just play it shooter-style, guns blazing? Or do you take the time to pause and use V.A.T.S (Vault-tec Assisted Targeting System), which approximates, sort of, the turn-based combat of the original Fallout games by letting you spend action points to target specific body parts. The latter will provide more precision, and will assist those who are shooter- or twitch-challenged. And thank god for V.A.T.S., because without it, well, the game really is just a shooter. Which is another thing -- or maybe the biggest thing -- that is pissing off the angrier of the nerdcore fans. We asked if you could just play the game and win without ever going into V.A.T.S, and the answer was "yes". You can run and gun your way through this game if that's how you want to do it. And I don't know how I feel about that yet either. Maybe I'm an angry nerdcore guy too.

Shawn: Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion isn't an RPG? I agree that role-playing means making decisions, but not with the assumption regarding die rolls, real or virtual. I appreciate that I can choose to manually target opponents or opt for V.A.T.S. In fact, I suspect that every player, no matter how comfortable he or she is with FPS-style combat, will want to flip back and forth between both options. If I'm bleeding and boxed in, a V.A.T.S.-enabled string of slo-mo headshots increases my odds of surviving. But say I'm feeling fine and stumble upon another Radscorpion -- why prolong a petty encounter? I appreciate that I can play the entire game from first- or third-person perspectives. Oh, and I appreciate that I'm able to be good or bad or anything totally in between the two. Hines' says it best in this snippet from our interview:

See the V.A.T.S. battle system in action for yourself here.

1Up Fallout 3 Preview

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:57 schreef Edwinuss het volgende:
Waarom mogen we niet slowchatten? Wat is daar erg aan ? Er kunnen 300 posts in 1 topic. dus je wil 300 posts met nieuwtjes, meningen en argumenten?
Ik snap dat het topic over de 360 moet gaan, maar je mag heus wel eens van onderwerp veranderen. En als je het niet leuk vindt om te lezen. Lees je het niet.
En sinds wanneer gaat iedereen zich netjes aan "de regels" houden ? Omdat iemand in het vorige topic er een opmerking over maakte gaat iedereen zich daar aan houden?
Ik ga gewoon slowchatten.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:25 schreef Strolie75 het volgende:

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Tjonge jonge wat een paniekvoetbal. Ze kunnen zich beter richten op hun eigen sterke punten in plaats van de Wii proberen te kopieren.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 20:57 schreef Edwinuss het volgende:
Waarom mogen we niet slowchatten? Wat is daar erg aan ? Er kunnen 300 posts in 1 topic. dus je wil 300 posts met nieuwtjes, meningen en argumenten?
Ik snap dat het topic over de 360 moet gaan, maar je mag heus wel eens van onderwerp veranderen. En als je het niet leuk vindt om te lezen. Lees je het niet.
En sinds wanneer gaat iedereen zich netjes aan "de regels" houden ? Omdat iemand in het vorige topic er een opmerking over maakte gaat iedereen zich daar aan houden?
Ik ga gewoon slowchatten.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 21:00 schreef Strolie75 het volgende:

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Dit was ook mijn laatste off-topic post.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 21:00 schreef Strolie75 het volgende:

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Dit was ook mijn laatste off-topic post.

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 21:01 schreef kepler het volgende:
nogmaals, wat is er mis met een add-on uitbrengen? De EyeToy was een succes, Guitar Hero was een succes, Rock Band is een succes, etc. Zolang het een add-on blijft heb ik er echt geen problemen mee

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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 21:03 schreef RacerDKB het volgende:

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De enige huillies hier zijn jij, Cyb, en Morp.

Zullen we anders 2 aparte topics maken, het ''[Xbox 360] NUR INFO KEIN SLOWCHAT MEIN BEFEHL'' topic en het ''[Xbox 360] De console en zijn gebruikers'' topic?