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McCanns talk to BBC, 01 May 2008

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01 May 2008

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  donderdag 1 mei 2008 @ 11:46:45 #152
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Op donderdag 1 mei 2008 11:27 schreef Suko het volgende:
McCanns talk to BBC, 01 May 2008

Click link here to watch

01 May 2008

09:30
Hoi!

Beachy is het ook een beetje zat zo te lezen.

Ik zal zo even kijken wat de McConns te melden hebben in jouw link, ik zal een teiltje klaarzetten.

Voor jullie ondertussen het rondje Anorak van vandaag:
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Madeleine McCann: No Change, A Tourist Site And Entertainment
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann



THE GUARDIAN: “Last night’s TV: Madeleine, One Year On: Campaign for Change”

It’s difficult to keep the visuals stimulating, too. We saw the McCanns at home in Leicestershire; Kate and Jerry talking on the sofa. But you can’t have two hours of sofa, so we joined them in a lot of taxis - in Portugal, London, Washington. And there were plenty of lingering tree shots - leafless, winter trees (this is a sad story, after all). And a flying heron … eh, what’s that about? Maybe the heron is an aguido, too. Does Sir Trevor know?

DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine holiday apartment becomes ’sick tourist attraction’ one year on from her disappearance”

Coachloads of journalists arrive every day. It’s sick.

DAILY MIRROR: “Tourists posing for pictures at McCann tragedy spots”

Pensioner Pamela Fenn, who lives above the McCanns’ holiday apartment, said: “It’s sick.
“They stand outside and then have photographs taken with their children.”

A source close to the McCanns said yesterday: “It’s disgraceful.”

It’s not as if the disappearance of a missing child is entertaining.

The floodlights at Premiership club Everton will be switched on this Saturday to mark the anniversary in a campaign called Light The Way Home.

LIVERPOOL ECHO: “Madeleine McCann: Family prepare for first anniversary of her disappearance”

People around the world are being urged to light a candle, shine a torch or turn on a porch lamp on Saturday night as a gesture of support for Madeleine’s family and friends.

A lighter held in the air?

Robert Murat, the third arguido in the case, is intending to maintain a low profile and will probably stay away from Praia da Luz on Saturday.

He said: “The anniversary is for a little girl who went missing - Madeleine.
“The anniversary is not about us, the McCanns, the PJ (Portuguese detectives) or anything else but a little girl going missing.”

THE TIMES: “Madeleine, One Year On: Campaign for Change; Escape from Alcatraz: The True Story”

Stefanie Marsh: Why must television do compassion? Why, when faced with a captive audience, a prime-time slot and a story that could, if they’d let it, tell itself, must television turn to mush and mutate into a series of treacly Hallmark bereavement cards?…

At one point Gerry McCann admits that his “wife is carrying on in a quasi-real existence”. What she is really doing is falling apart, but too much gloop from the director turned the McCanns’ terrible situation into a guilt trip that made me want to watch The Apprentice instead.

THE INDEPENDENT: “Last Night’s TV: Madeleine, One Year On: Campaign for Change ITV1″

“You can’t always blame the parents,” says Thomas Stucliffe:

They still get a lot of letters, the McCanns, sorting them out into boxes marked “well-wishers”, “ideas”, “psychics” and “nutty”. Incredibly, they also need a box marked “nasty” for messages such as the one that Gerry read out at the beginning of the film. “How can you use money given by poor people in good faith to pay your mortgage on your mansion? You fucking thieving bastards. Your brat is dead because of your drunken arrogance. Shame on you. I curse you and your family to suffer forever. Cursed Christmas. If you had any shame, you would accept full responsibility for your daughter’s disappearance and give all the money back. You are scum.” This heart-warming expression of support had been written inside a Christmas card. The Daily Express, by contrast, chose to print its hate mail on its own front page, confident that there were enough readers out there who would prefer infanticide to unresolved mystery – or to no McCann story at all. And all the time, the McCanns themselves live a life horribly suspended between what might have been and what could happen next, between “if only” and “maybe”.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/183494.html
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  donderdag 1 mei 2008 @ 12:06:46 #153
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Dit is de 1-year-on docu van 'The Sun'

http://extras.thesun.co.uk/madeleine/1_year_on/

Strange, geen woord over het DNA in de auto en de tegenstrijdige recentelijk ingetrokken verklaringen van Jane Tanner, heel vaag en pro McCann allemaal, misschien bang voor nog meer schadeclaims.

Oh en Suko, die link werkt niet bij mij.
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Maddie: Special report part 3By ANTONELLA LAZZERI

Published: 30 Apr 2008

A TEARFUL Kate McCann talks tonight about how she is tormented by "if onlys" over the disappearance of Maddie.

An emotional Kate, 40, reveals for the first time how she and husband Gerry had planned to have a family dinner on the night their daughter vanished.

But a last-minute change of plan led them to leave her and her twin sister and brother alone in their holiday apartment in Portugal.

In an extraordinary ITV1 documentary, made to mark the anniversary of Maddie’s disappearance, Kate and husband Gerry, 39, speak as never before about that fateful night.

HER face crumpled in despair, tears streaming down, Kate McCann lays bare her utter grief at being separated from her daughter.

Speaking as never before, Kate says she cannot believe it has been a year since Maddie went missing.

And she tells how seeing the little girl’s best friend in their home village makes her think about how much Maddie must have changed in those long 12 months.

Her voice close to breaking, she says: "I see Madeleine’s best friend from time to time.

"I can’t help but wonder what Madeleine would be like.

"Would she be that much taller? Is her hair as long as that? Would she be writing her name too?"

Always referring to Maddie, who is five in May, in the present tense, she describes her as "very loving. She’s a very bright little girl.

"I had days when I’d go to a cafe with Madeleine and we’d go shopping together and she’d say, ‘Oh mummy, I like that top,’ or ‘Oh, I love your earrings, mummy’.

"She’s good company, she’s like my — you know, she’s like a little buddy to me."

In tonight’s ITV1 documentary, Madeleine, One Year On: Campaign For Change, the McCanns are seen sitting down to a happy family meal while three-year-old twins Sean and Amelie chatter away excitedly.

Later, Kate tells how, when she first returned home from Portugal, she couldn’t bear "everyday things".

She says: "I didn’t cook a meal — just couldn’t do it. I resented things like that because it was taking me away from Madeleine.

"How can I hang up washing when my daughter’s not here?"

Poignantly, she adds: "With three kids, there’s always lots of washing," and says that having to get up to deal with the twins helps her cope with Maddie being missing.

She points out: "They need a happy normal life."

Talking about life without Maddie, who he describes as "endless joy", dad Gerry says it is "a purgatory-type existence. We are kind of between something real and never finding out." He adds sadly: "Our little girl wasn’t even four and is now nearly five. She’s the victim and people should not forget that."

Much of tonight’s documentary was filmed at the McCanns’ home in Rothley, Leicestershire.

Poignantly, as the TV programme shows, there are reminders of Madeleine everywhere.

Photos of her are plastered on the fridge, drawings she did at nursery are stuck to kitchen units and her name is spelt out in wooden letters on a mantelpiece.

The twins are seen noisily playing in a playroom which is littered with Maddie’s things, including a toy kitchen and pink pram.

Their gleeful laughter fills the house, and, watching them play, Kate smiles at the memory of Maddie joining in the fun.

Kate says: "She was great with Sean and Amelie.

"Even when they were born, you know she just stepped into the role really well, considering she was only 20 months when they were born, and she wanted to be involved and help. As they got a little bit older, because the age difference was so close, they just played so well together."

Her voice trailing away as she wipes away tears, Kate adds: "And it was lovely seeing them together and that’s one thing that I struggle with — imagining how they would be now."

Talking about the night when Maddie went missing Kate tells for the first time how she and husband Gerry had planned to dine with the children.

She says: "We were all going to go up to the Millennium restaurant again. That was with the kids, which is what we did the first night.

"It didn’t open till half past six in the evening and our kids usually go to bed around seven, so they were really tired."

Talking about why they had changed their minds, she says that, on the first visit, "we ended up trying to carry three of them between two and we decided we couldn’t do that, really.

"It was just because the walk was so long and we didn’t have a buggy and the kids were tired by that time."

So, instead, the McCanns decided to dine at a tapas bar just across from their holiday apartment. They left the kids alone, checking on them every 20 minutes.

Talking about the much-criticised decision to leave her children alone, Kate says: "I think if there’d even been one second when someone had said, ‘Do you think it’s going to be OK?’, it wouldn’t have happened.


"I mean, there’s absolutely no way, if I’d have had the slightest inkling that there was risk involved there, that I’d have done it."

Gerry adds: "It was so close. It didn’t feel that different to dining out in the back garden."

Kate now admits that she is tormented by the fact they left their children alone.

And she also feels guilty that they did not question Maddie further about a curious remark she made on the morning of the day she went missing.

She says the little girl had asked her, "Mummy, where were you last night when me and Sean were crying?"

The McCanns are convinced now that their daughter may have been woken up by an intruder for her to have said what she did the next morning.

Wringing her hands, Kate says: "You know, I’ve persecuted myself over and over again about that statement because you think, why didn’t I kind of just hold her and say, ‘What do you mean? What do you mean you woke up?’

"I do go back and it does upset you and you think, why didn’t I say, ‘Why did you cry?’ — and why didn’t we go back to the Millennium?"

Breaking down in tears, she adds: "Then, as Gerry said, there is the guilt you feel for not being there and giving someone that opportunity.


"But then I just have to kind of reel myself in and think, ‘I know how much I love Madeleine and I have no doubt that Madeleine knows how much I love her’."

It was Kate’s turn to check on the children — at around 10pm — when she discovered that Maddie had vanished.

She breaks down again as she recalls that moment, adding: "I just remember saying, ‘Not Madeleine, not Madeleine, not Madeleine’ — and I remember saying that over and over again."

Kate admits she "just feared the worst at the beginning".

She says: "It was really cold. I knew what pyjamas she had on and I just thought she’s going to be freezing.

"And it was dark, and every minute seemed like an hour and, obviously, we were up all night and just waited for that first bit of light about six o’clock in the morning."

Gerry says: "Then we just went out searching, the two of us, at daylight. We were saying over and over again, ‘Just let her be found, let her be found’.


"It felt like you’re in the middle of a horror movie, really, a nightmare."

At times during the documentary the couple’s tears turn to anger at the way the Portuguese police have handled their daughter’s disappearance.

Talking about the moment she learnt she and Gerry had been made arguidos — official suspects — Kate says: "As soon as I realised the story, or theory, was that Madeleine was dead and that we’d been involved somehow, it just hit home.

"They haven’t been looking for Madeleine. I was angry, you know. And I thought she deserves so much better than that, and I thought I’m not going to sit here and allow this.

"I felt almost invincible at that point. I just thought my children deserve that — Madeleine deserves that.

"Someone has to be fighting for Madeleine.


"When I was going in to become an arguido I felt angry. I wasn’t scared. I felt like I was going to fight the world, to be honest.

"My daughter was worth more than all that and I would do whatever it took to fight for justice and truth."

For Kate and Gerry the picture of a happy three-year-old clutching a bundle of tennis balls evokes a carefree time before they became household names.

Speaking in the documentary about the now-famous photograph, Kate says: "Gerry loves that photo.

"As part of the kids’ club, they did mini-tennis and she really enjoyed it."

Gerry smiles and adds: "One of the tasks was to gather all the balls up and she’d obviously managed to get three in and she turned round to Kate and she’s like, ‘Look, I’ve got them all’."

He also speaks about the moment the last known picture of Madeleine was taken.

It shows her sitting alongside her father and her younger brother Sean, dangling their feet in the swimming pool, just seven hours before her disappearance.

Gerry says: "She was a little person becoming independent and a piece of just endless joy."

Apart from the twins, the couple have been kept going in recent months by their involvement in the US-style Amber Alert system to keep children safe.

They have recently been to Brussels to ask the European Parliament to adopt a similar scheme across Europe
.

At one stage in the documentary they are seen meeting Ed Smart in America.

His daughter Elizabeth was found alive eight months after she was abducted.

He tells the McCanns firmly: "Miracles do happen."


As the first anniversary of Maddie’s disappearance dawns, Kate admits that she cannot imagine living with never knowing what happened to her daughter.

And she says firmly that she and Gerry will never give up searching for her.

At one stage she is seen reading a story in The Sun about a sighting of Maddie in France.

She says: "There’s always that little bit of hope — thinking, ‘Where is she?’ and ‘Is it ever going to be one of those sightings that’s the real thing?’ "

Her voice trembling, Kate says at the end of the documentary: "She’s out there. We’ve just got to find her.

"It doesn’t feel like a year since I saw Madeleine.

"She’s just so much, very much still there and she doesn’t seem so far away.

"It feels like she’s still with me in some way and I’ve never felt like I won’t see her again."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/s(...)e/article1106514.ece

Lees maar voor jezelf, ik heb een paar dingen gezien en ben benieuwd wat jullie opmerken, wordt vervolgd dus.

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  donderdag 1 mei 2008 @ 12:35:50 #154
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The parents of missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann have expressed their frustration with Portuguese police investigating their daughter's disappearance.



Speaking to the BBC before the imminent anniversary of Madeleine's abduction on May 3rd last year, the McCanns underlined their determination to continue appealing for information about their daughter.

"We'll never give up on Madeleine. I want Madeleine back. We need to find Madeleine. That's what keeps us going," Kate McCann explained.

She and her husband remain official suspects in the case but have expressed concern over the lack of contact between Portuguese police and themselves.

"We'd very much like to know exactly what has been done, what hasn't been done, who's been eliminated and on what grounds," Gerry McCann said.

"I think the key thing is… a horrific crime against a young child," Mrs McCann added.

"I think we need to focus on that. Madeleine is still missing and a hideous crime has been committed. And that person is still out there."

The McCanns dismissed speculation that their daughter may have disappeared without being abducted, but said they were unable to reveal further details because of "judicial secrecy" rules.

"We know more than a lot of people than are actually standing up there giving opinions," Mrs McCann added.

"We know more facts and a lot of people are just speculating."

Madeleine disappeared from the apartment where the McCanns were staying on a family holiday in the resort of Praia da Luz in the Algarve.
Goh, wat zou de PJ van hen vinden?
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Op donderdag 1 mei 2008 12:06 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Dit is de 1-year-on docu van 'The Sun'

http://extras.thesun.co.uk/madeleine/1_year_on/

Strange, geen woord over het DNA in de auto en de tegenstrijdige recentelijk ingetrokken verklaringen van Jane Tanner, heel vaag en pro McCann allemaal, misschien bang voor nog meer schadeclaims.

Oh en Suko, die link werkt niet bij mij.
Mogge...middag Kahaarin. Nee, link werkt bij mij ook niet, moet je waarschijnlijk die stomme player van de BBC installeren > is alleen voor de UK, zal wel snel op Youtube te zien zijn, als ik (of iemand anders) het zie meld ik 't wel ff. Jeeeeeez, ik ben het ook wel goed zat eigenlijk en wat te denken van morgenochtend, Ned tijd 10.00u:
Missing Live
Fri 2 May, 9:15 am - 10:00 am 45mins BBC1
Series following the work of the police and the charity Missing People as they search for just some of the 200,000 people who disappear every year. Presented by Louise Minchin and Rav Wilding. "

http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/ dikke maatjes van de McConns. Ze zijn trouwens op zoek naar een PR-manager en een Director of Fundraising & Marketing... Bizz is booming Oja, Richard Branson is één van de Vice Patrons.

Er is zoveel te melden maar nu even niet... Of er moeten nieuwe ontwikkelingen komen, ik vrees van niet. (ergens kan het ook een enorrme hoax zijn, heb er al wat over gelezen, gek genoeg zijn die topics woei/weg, heb het wel bewaard, mogelijk donder ik dat verhaal nog eens hier in dit topic.... )

En de PJ heeft hopelijk ook een wider agenda, mét bewijzen, reken maar dat ook alles in Portugal wordt bekeken en in het dossier wordt toegevoegd. Het wachten is op antwoorden van de McConns, dát is wat de PJ denkt Kahaarin.

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  donderdag 1 mei 2008 @ 13:43:12 #156
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Op donderdag 1 mei 2008 12:53 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Mogge...middag Kahaarin. Nee, link werkt bij mij ook niet, moet je waarschijnlijk die stomme player van de BBC installeren > is alleen voor de UK, zal wel snel op Youtube te zien zijn, als ik (of iemand anders) het zie meld ik 't wel ff. Jeeeeeez, ik ben het ook wel goed zat eigenlijk en wat te denken van morgenochtend, Ned tijd 10.00u:
Missing Live
Fri 2 May, 9:15 am - 10:00 am 45mins BBC1
Series following the work of the police and the charity Missing People as they search for just some of the 200,000 people who disappear every year. Presented by Louise Minchin and Rav Wilding. "
Een docu over vermissingen, daar zullen de McCanns ook wel een platform in krijgen ben ik bang.
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http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/ dikke maatjes van de McConns. Ze zijn trouwens op zoek naar een PR-manager en een Director of Fundraising & Marketing... Bizz is booming Oja, Richard Branson is één van de Vice Patrons.
Veel succes voor die persoon, hopelijk kan hij/zij goed slapen 's nachts.
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Er is zoveel te melden maar nu even niet... Of er moeten nieuwe ontwikkelingen komen, ik vrees van niet. (ergens kan het ook een enorrme hoax zijn, heb er al wat over gelezen, gek genoeg zijn die topics woei/weg, heb het wel bewaard, mogelijk donder ik dat verhaal nog eens hier in dit topic.... )
Doe maar, misschien een beetje leesvoer.....
Ik heb trouwens de dingen in dat stuk uit de Sun onderstreept/uitgelicht die mij opvielen, een heel vreemd artikel.
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En de PJ heeft hopelijk ook een wider agenda, mét bewijzen, reken maar dat ook alles in Portugal wordt bekeken en in het dossier wordt toegevoegd. Het wachten is op antwoorden van de McConns, dát is wat de PJ denkt Kahaarin.
GMTA! Precies Suko, nog steeds hetzelfde gezeur het ligt aan iedereen behalve aan hen, zolang zij maar schone konten hebben.
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Op donderdag 1 mei 2008 13:43 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Een docu over vermissingen, daar zullen de McCanns ook wel een platform in krijgen ben ik bang.
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Veel succes voor die persoon, hopelijk kan hij/zij goed slapen 's nachts.
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Ships, die organisatie van Missing People is al vanaf maandag elke dag op op de BBC, anyway, die 2 genoemde vacatures voor Missing People (PR-manager en een Director of Fundraising & Marketing)....ik kom maar niet op 2 voor de hand liggende namen....het is zo toevallig!
Maar goed, alweer komt dat Oostenrijkse drama in hun verhaal, Sky: "The cases of Elisabeth Fritzl and Natasha Kampusch in Austria have also given them hope that Madeleine could be alive - and they can even imagine her growing up in a different place, surrounded by different people, and simply adjusting to her new situation."

En Metodo 3, ja hoor, nieuw tel.nummer, nieuwe ronde, nieuwe kansen, nieuwe 'getuige'...ook op Sky. En natuurlijk vond dat 's morgens op 3 mei plaats: "The young British woman, whose identity we are not revealing, saw a man "hovering" around the family's Algarve apartment on the morning of May 3, hours before Madeleine vanished." She was asked back for more questioning last week, according to Sky sources.The witness was sitting on a balcony overlooking the holiday complex in Praia da Luz when she spotted the man acting suspiciously."

Yeah! Alweer íemand die Madeleine op 3 mei op de levende kaart wil zetten....maar wacht 's ff, hadden we niet eerder een statement over een balkon, (die twee zussen, vermoedelijk familie van Mams Susan Healy), ja dus, December 28, 2007: "A source close to the investigation said: The women, both thought to be in their 40s from Aylesford in Kent, were on a two-week holiday in the Algarve at the same time as the McCanns and became friends through tennis. They were staying in an apartment nearby and on the day Madeleine disappeared, they say they saw two men in a neighbouring apartment acting suspiciously. “The sisters saw two men wearing trunks, standing on a balcony, whom they had not seen before. They just felt that they looked odd, but didn’t do anything about it.” Bron

Druk druk druk daar, al die mensen op balkons, de PJ moet kasten vol met getuigenverklaringen hebben, maar dan anders...

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Tip: morgenavond, dus vrijdagvond 2 mei, op RTL4, de door hen zelf gemaakte docu:
Madeleine McCann: Een jaar verder 22.25u - 00.25u

"Waarin de ouders van de sinds 3 mei 2007 vermiste Britse peuter Madeleine McCann worden gevolgd. Sinds de toen driejarige Maddie McCann spoorloos verdween uit het vakantieappartement in het Portugese Praia da Luz, hebben ouders Gerry en Kate onafgebroken aandacht gevraagd voor deze zaak, waarin ze zelf ook verdachten werden. Hoe controversieel de feiten ook zijn, het allerbelangrijkst is dat Maddie, inmiddels een jaar na dato, nog altijd wordt vermist en moet worden gevonden."

Ik zag het net op Boulevard, onderwerp werd natuurlijk kritiekloos behandeld maar dat is niet zo verwonderlijk, het leeft niet zo erg hier dus achtergronden zijn vrijwel onbekend. Zakdoeken bij de hand want het wordt héél erg zielig. Ik geloof gerust dat met name Kate het moeilijk had en nog heeft maar ik geloof ook dat ze wetenschap hebben wat er met Madeleine is gebeurd en inmiddels doorgewinterde mediarakkers zijn geworden...zet argusogen op!

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  donderdag 1 mei 2008 @ 19:52:46 #159
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Op donderdag 1 mei 2008 19:21 schreef Suko het volgende:
Tip: morgenavond, dus vrijdagvond 2 mei, op RTL4, de door hen zelf gemaakte docu:
Madeleine McCann: Een jaar verder 22.25u - 00.25u

"Waarin de ouders van de sinds 3 mei 2007 vermiste Britse peuter Madeleine McCann worden gevolgd. Sinds de toen driejarige Maddie McCann spoorloos verdween uit het vakantieappartement in het Portugese Praia da Luz, hebben ouders Gerry en Kate onafgebroken aandacht gevraagd voor deze zaak, waarin ze zelf ook verdachten werden. Hoe controversieel de feiten ook zijn, het allerbelangrijkst is dat Maddie, inmiddels een jaar na dato, nog altijd wordt vermist en moet worden gevonden."

Ik zag het net op Boulevard, onderwerp werd natuurlijk kritiekloos behandeld maar dat is niet zo verwonderlijk, het leeft niet zo erg hier dus achtergronden zijn vrijwel onbekend. Zakdoeken bij de hand want het wordt héél erg zielig. Ik geloof gerust dat met name Kate het moeilijk had en nog heeft maar ik geloof ook dat ze wetenschap hebben wat er met Madeleine is gebeurd en inmiddels doorgewinterde mediarakkers zijn geworden...zet argusogen op!

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Tissues paraat, ik wacht 'met spanning' op de balkonscenes.......

Verder, same old, same old dus, ach ja, geen nieuws dan maken we nieuws is het devies van team McCann.
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Op donderdag 1 mei 2008 19:52 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Tissues paraat, ik wacht 'met spanning' op de balkonscenes.......

Verder, same old, same old dus, ach ja, geen nieuws dan maken we nieuws is het devies van team McCann.
Yeah, wederom schone konten halen....

Maar goed, belofte maakt schuld, hier is in twee delen op youtube het BBC-breakfast interview van vanmorgen:
Deel 1: Kate and Gerry McCann interviewed - BBC Breakfast May 1 2008
Deel 2: Kate and Gerry McCann interviewed - BBC Breakfast May 1 2008

Gevonden op dit forum met nog meer links.

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  donderdag 1 mei 2008 @ 20:29:52 #161
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Op donderdag 1 mei 2008 20:17 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Yeah, wederom schone konten halen....
Die zijn nu al wel blinkend denk ik, tjonge ik ben dat interview aan het luisteren, die mensen hebben dus daadwerkelijk het lef om anderen te vertellen wat ze moeten doen om hun kinderen veilig te houden.....
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Maar goed, belofte maakt schuld, hier is in twee delen op youtube het BBC-breakfast interview van vanmorgen:
Deel 1: Kate and Gerry McCann interviewed - BBC Breakfast May 1 2008
Deel 2: Kate and Gerry McCann interviewed - BBC Breakfast May 1 2008

Gevonden op dit forum met nog meer links.
Bedankt voor de link, eens lezen hoe men het daar beleeft!
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Sommige posters op het 3 arguidoforum zijn iig verward. Die docu van ITV, dus morgenavond op RTL4 te zien, speelt puur alleen in op emoties van met name Kate, maar naderhand komt de verwarring na vooral dat live BBC-Breakfast-interview. Dat zet je weer in de realiteit, naast de info die men al weet natuurlijk. Een columnist van The Guardian Sam Wollaston schrijft ondermeer: "It made for a bloody great sprawl of a film. Two hours! That's too long for most feature films, and much too long for an interview with two quite ordinary people. Yes, they have been through the most terrible thing anyone can go through. No, that doesn't make them worth two hours, especially as anyone who's opened a newspaper in the past year pretty much knows every detail of the story already. And, in spite of what the people at ITN think, there were no new revelations. I can't imagine many people did the distance."

Anyway, nog meer, nog meer....

Zaterdag 3 mei 2008, 23:10 - 00:10 uur SBS6

Madeleine McCann is tegen wil en dank waarschijnlijk het meest bekende gezochte meisje ter wereld. Op 3 mei 2007 verdween de Britse kleuter in de Portugese vakantieplaats Praia da Luz en sindsdien houdt haar mysterieuze verdwijning mensen in alle landen bezig. Diverse personen werden opgepakt en weer vrijgelaten en ook de ouders van Madeleine werden als verdachten aangemerkt. Deze documentaire bevat exclusieve beelden, gefilmd door een vriend van de McCanns, van de ouders van Madeleine in de eerste dagen na de vermissing van hun dochter. Ook de vrouw met wie de McCanns dineerden op de beruchte avond doet voor het eerst haar verhaal voor de camera.

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  donderdag 1 mei 2008 @ 23:58:46 #163
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OMG nog meer "kijk ons arme ouders eens bezorgt zijn repetoire??"
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Op donderdag 1 mei 2008 23:58 schreef Tmaatje het volgende:
OMG nog meer "kijk ons arme ouders eens bezorgt zijn repetoire??"
Yep, en voorlopig blijft dat nog wel zo, zolang de McCanns weigeren mee te werken/vragen te beantwoorden, zolang de Britse Labour-overheid het onderzoek (het inzien van de Rogatory Letters zodat de vragen tijdens het verhoren al bekend waren bij de Tapas 7) maaaaanden heeft vertraagd en de resultaten (denk aan de DNA-uitslagen) in een bureaula laat lggen, tot zolang hebben de McCanns ruim baan om (zoals Kahaarin dat zo treffend beschrijft) hun konten schoon te vegen en te houden, totdat de glans verdwijnt, totdat van al die glamour niets meer over blijft en de blaren zichtbaar worden. Columnist Jon Gaunt is on a mission naar het schijnt, sommige stukjes vind ik discutabel maar vooruit, it's a start.
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JON GAUNT - Sun Columnist
Published: 02 May 2008 (published online 01 May 2008)

Come off TV, Kate and Gerry, your time is up The Sun

IT must be just me, but the Maddie documentary left me feeling less sympathetic to Gerry and Kate than I was before. It was a two-hour bore-fest with a centre softer than a marshmallow. And my God, did the background music get on your nerves too?

There was no real probe into why they chose to leave their three children home alone. I accept that their proposal for an amber alert system is a great idea and should be implemented right across Europe.

However, I couldn’t believe their bleating over the fact that their campaign was bumped off the front pages by the revelation that Maddie had asked why Mummy hadn’t come to their room the night before when she was crying.

This was, at best, naive. Of course a revelation like this will go straight to the top of the news agenda. The question remains: Why didn’t Kate and Gerry talk to us about this earlier?

Booze

Again let me state, I don’t know whether they are involved in Maddie’s disappearance — only a court can discover the truth — but I believe they are guilty of neglect. What was all that guff about not having a buggy as a reason for leaving the kids alone in the room?

What was that nonsense about thinking there was a listening service? After a few days they must have realised that no such service was available? Even if they didn’t realise this, surely when Maddie talked about crying on the very day she was abducted they should never have chosen to go out on the booze again.

I interviewed Emma Loach, the director of this film, on my radio show on Wednesday and she clearly illustrated where her sympathies lay when she told me she too had left her three-year-old and five-year-old alone in a hotel room while she went off and had dinner.

Her pathetic excuse for this child neglect was that it was better to do this than have the kids be irritable the next day. erry and Kate said on GMTV yesterday that there are different ways to parent.

They are WRONG.

There is only way and that is to always put your kids first. People like Loach and the McCanns clearly don’t understand that when you have kids your priorities have to change, you are no longer a singleton or a couple and you cannot act as if you are.

Your first responsibility is the safety and comfort of your children.

This programme left me with even more questions than answers and just confirmed to me that the spinning and propaganda on both sides has to stop. I agree with the man who brought the Bulger killers to justice, Albert Kirby, who said on my show that the McCanns’ time would be better spent going back to Portugal and helping the police with the reconstruction rather than touring TV studios.

The McCanns must return and do the reconstruction. Then the Portuguese police need to charge them or release them from their suspect status. But please, most of all, can all the main players in this sad saga remember it is not about you and your suffering but the plight of an innocent four-year-old. Bron
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En wat was het vanmorgen heerlijk om te zien op de BBC hoe de Labour-partij dramatisch de gemeenteraadsverkiezingen vet vet vet heeft verloren. Ik meldde het gisteren al, mensen zijn echt niet gek! Dit komt ook zeker mede door de bescherming/betrokkenheid van/voor de McCanns door PM Gordon Brown én naar mijn mening Jacqui Smith van het Britse Home Office, die Portugal zo heeft tegengewerkt en dat nog steeds flikt. Gerry McCann heeft overigens ook voorheen voor Labour gerund. Het is sinds 40 jaar nog nooit zo slecht geweest. Beachy:
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"It is thought to be the worst projected share for Labour in 40 years." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7372860.stm

I am reminded of what Churchill said to Neville Chamberlain after Munich: "You had a choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour and will have war."

Gordon Brown, honourable sir: I know you did not initiate the government's involvement in the McCann mess; you were handed it by Tony Blair. But once you became Prime Minister you, too, had a choice - between dishonour and embarassment. You chose dishonour, in my opinion, and before this is over, you will surely have your fill of embarassment as well.

Tonight was just the beginning.


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  vrijdag 2 mei 2008 @ 14:00:52 #166
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Ergens bijna sneu, verkiezingen verloren, hun media offensief pakt niet uit zoals ze zouden willen en niemand gelooft meer dat ze geen dubbele agenda hebben.
Als het niet ging om een vermist meisje zou je er om kunnen lachen.

En verder dus geen nieuws behalve de interviews, nergens, geen spoor van Maddy, geen enkel geluid van enige progressie.
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Op vrijdag 2 mei 2008 14:00 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Ergens bijna sneu, verkiezingen verloren, hun media offensief pakt niet uit zoals ze zouden willen en niemand gelooft meer dat ze geen dubbele agenda hebben.
Als het niet ging om een vermist meisje zou je er om kunnen lachen.

En verder dus geen nieuws behalve de interviews, nergens, geen spoor van Maddy, geen enkel geluid van enige progressie.
Ik vond het werelds, dat verlies van Labour! Nee helaas, en dat spoor zal misschien nooit worden gevonden. De Mccanns gaan morgen niet naar de kerkdienst in Praia da Luz, broer John Mccann gaat: "They will be accompanied by Michael Wright, Kate's cousin. After the ceremony, in front of the church, familiar with Kate and Gerry have planned to speak to the media by reading a statement prepared by the head of the campaign, Clarence Mitchell."

Nee, De McCanns zijn veel te bang voor de PJ en de Luzjes aldaar, die hebben de buik allang al vol van dit mediacircus. Overigens hebben de McCanns deze dagen al 18 interviews gegeven, de US is nu aan de beurt, en dat nog buiten de optredens elke morgen in het programma Missing People van de BBC. Volgende week ook nog te zien, ik weet niet of ze daar dan weer zijn. Bron

En verder kunnen mensen nu naar een anoniem emailafres mailen, de McCanns maakten dat vanmorgen bekend, zij doen het voorkomen alsof dat hetzelfde is als naar naar het nieuwe tel. nummer bellen, Metodo 3 dus. Maar pas op, als men mailt via de mail van de eigen provider dan is ook het ip-nummer bekend, je voelt 't al, zoals op 3arguido dit terecht aan de orde komt: "the email address is anonymous@findmadeleine.com BUT it doesn't mean your email is anonymous - your email address headers etc will be on record! it does appear to suggest that it's like an anonymous phone call but it's NOT." + "Do not let them collect your email address, particularly if it is one provided by your ISP."

Het advies is natuurlijk de politie te bellen zoals elk weldenkend mens zou doen: Leicester police; 0116 222 2222
Scotland Yard; 0207 230 1212

Die enge supportgroep HTFM van de McCanns houden Fora en bloggers al geruime tijd behoorlijk bezig, alweer een voorbeeld is op het 3arguidoforum te lezen.

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  vrijdag 2 mei 2008 @ 19:34:58 #168
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Op vrijdag 2 mei 2008 17:53 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Ik vond het werelds, dat verlies van Labour! Nee helaas, en dat spoor zal misschien nooit worden gevonden. De Mccanns gaan morgen niet naar de kerkdienst in Praia da Luz, broer John Mccann gaat: "They will be accompanied by Michael Wright, Kate's cousin. After the ceremony, in front of the church, familiar with Kate and Gerry have planned to speak to the media by reading a statement prepared by the head of the campaign, Clarence Mitchell."
Ze hebben imho alles al gezegd in hun interviews, wat willen ze nu nog verklaren dan?
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Nee, De McCanns zijn veel te bang voor de PJ en de Luzjes aldaar, die hebben de buik allang al vol van dit mediacircus. Overigens hebben de McCanns deze dagen al 18 interviews gegeven, de US is nu aan de beurt, en dat nog buiten de optredens elke morgen in het programma Missing People van de BBC. Volgende week ook nog te zien, ik weet niet of ze daar dan weer zijn. Bron
Inderdaad, allemaal valse lucht, zouden ze niet doorhebben dat ze alleen maar wrevel opwekken zo? Er bestaat ook nog zoiets als overexposure.
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En verder kunnen mensen nu naar een anoniem emailafres mailen, de McCanns maakten dat vanmorgen bekend, zij doen het voorkomen alsof dat hetzelfde is als naar naar het nieuwe tel. nummer bellen, Metodo 3 dus. Maar pas op, als men mailt via de mail van de eigen provider dan is ook het ip-nummer bekend, je voelt 't al, zoals op 3arguido dit terecht aan de orde komt: "the email address is anonymous@findmadeleine.com BUT it doesn't mean your email is anonymous - your email address headers etc will be on record! it does appear to suggest that it's like an anonymous phone call but it's NOT." + "Do not let them collect your email address, particularly if it is one provided by your ISP."

Het advies is natuurlijk de politie te bellen zoals elk weldenkend mens zou doen: Leicester police; 0116 222 2222
Scotland Yard; 0207 230 1212
Slimme truc, meteen iedereen die lastig is kunnen traceren via hun IP adres, maar daar kun je wel omheen, een gratis hotmail accountje in een internetcafe doet wonderen.
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Die enge supportgroep HTFM van de McCanns houden Fora en bloggers al geruime tijd behoorlijk bezig, alweer een voorbeeld is op het 3arguidoforum te lezen.
Ik heb het gelezen, jeetje wat een griezels, vaag dat die vrouw zo bedreigd wordt, hopelijk doet de politie iets met de aangifte.
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Was net ook een stukje bij één vandaag met onze eigen Jaap Jongbloed. Er werd niet aan de ouders getwijfeld en het leek wel of Jaap z'n tekst aan 't oplezen was, want hij keek regelmatig met een schuin oog naar een papier op z'n bureau.
- I've just made up my mind, so don't confuse me with the facts -
  vrijdag 2 mei 2008 @ 19:49:11 #170
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Op vrijdag 2 mei 2008 19:40 schreef Loohcs het volgende:
Was net ook een stukje bij één vandaag met onze eigen Jaap Jongbloed. Er werd niet aan de ouders getwijfeld en het leek wel of Jaap z'n tekst aan 't oplezen was, want hij keek regelmatig met een schuin oog naar een papier op z'n bureau.
http://www.tvgids.nl/programmadetail/?ID=7071529
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Madeleine McCann: Een jaar verderDocumentaire

waarin de ouders van de sinds 3 mei 2007 vermiste Britse peuter Madeleine McCann worden gevolgd. Sinds de toen driejarige Maddie McCann spoorloos verdween uit het vakantieappartement in het Portugese Praia da Luz, hebben ouders Gerry en Kate onafgebroken aandacht gevraagd voor deze zaak, waarin ze zelf ook verdachten werden. Hoe controversieel de feiten ook zijn, het allerbelangrijkst is dat Maddie, inmiddels een jaar na dato, nog altijd wordt vermist en moet worden gevonden.

RTL 4, 22:25 uur
Ik ben hier wel benieuwd naar, wat betreft Jaap Jongbloed, ik denk dat men als de dood is voor claims van de McCanns, dit is imho gewoon een onderdeel van hun recente charme offensief in de media, of we het nu leuk vinden of niet, er is nog geen zinnig woord te zeggen over het hoe en wat, het waarom is wel duidelijk, de ouders hebben het degene die Maddy heeft meegenomen errug makkelijk gemaakt door de deur open te laten.
Suko denkt dat de ouders er mee te maken hebben maar ik neig naar een opportunist die een open deur zag en een mooi kindje, we komen er wellicht wel een keer achter wat er nu daadwerkelijk is gebeurd.
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Jaap Jongbloed heeft zich ook nooit echt verdiept in de kwestie, hij noemde niet eens dat de McCanns formeel verdachten zijn én dat ze niet meewerken, me dunkt, als mensen zich aanmelden bij Vermist zou de redactie toch eerst vragen (als het ouders betreft) wát ze zelf hebben gedaan. Ook Spoorloos heeft regels waaraan je moet voldoen, en zeker niet op de verdachten-rol staan. Jammer dat het geen Nederlanders betreffen, Peter r. de Vries had op z'n minst heel diep in de zaak gedoken, maar wie weet, de kids zijn wel in A.dam via IVF verwekt én geboren, toch een beetje Dutchies.... Komop Peter, je kan 't!

Anyway, ik denk idd dat ze wetenschap hebben dat Madeleine niet meer leeft, dat ze de peuter óf dood hebben aangetroffen in of buiten het apartement, door een val, al of niet groggy wegens sedatie, óf dat Gerry óf Kate de kleine te hard hebben aangepakt, tenslotte hebben mensen de kleine uren horen huilen, op diverse avonden, ze waren vet geirriteerd dat het MW-resort de McCanns hadden gebeld vanwege dat gehuil. Er zijn nog tig situaties te bedenken waarom ik denk dat de McCanns schuldig zijn aan de vermissing/dood van Madeleine. En ook niets wijst op een ontvoering, nada.

Maar goed, dat hele Amber Alert-systeem is helemaal niet nodig, Charlotte heeft daar een mooi artikel over geschreven: Is Mr Mitchell aware of Amber Alert in other countries? Maar ook: (ook in Charlotte's verhaal)
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Police chief rejects McCanns' amber alert campaign The UK’s most senior officer responsible for missing children today ruled out Kate and Gerry McCann’s plea to introduce an “amber alert” system. Deputy Assistant Commissioner Richard Bryan insisted that there was no need to emulate the US system of immediate information broadcasts once children have been reported missing. The officer, who is the Association of Chief Police Officers head of missing people, said forces in England and Wales already operate an effective “child rescue alert”.
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Senior UK officers said up to 700 child abductions are reported each year, the majority of which involve marriage break-ups.

They believe low-key techniques, such as studying CCTV, checking bank records and tracking mobile phones, can be more effective than public appeals. A child rescue alert can only be made when the missing child is aged under 16, and police believe he or she has been abducted and is in danger of serious harm.

On the occasions they have been used, one baby was found under a bed at home after it was missed in an initial search. In the second case, a child was reported abducted after the car it was strapped into was stolen by thieves. It was later found unharmed in the abandoned car. The third alert involved a report of an abduction made by a child witness where police eventually found no evidence any crime had taken place. Het heke artikel in The Times
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  vrijdag 2 mei 2008 @ 20:41:12 #172
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We zullen zien Suko, er is 1 ding wat er wel als een paal boven water staat, eens zal alles uitkomen, daar ben ik rotsvast van overtuigd.

Oh, en zakdoekjes bij de hand?
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LONDON, England (CNN) -- Madeleine McCann has become an icon for missing children, her parents said Friday on the eve of the anniversary of the British toddler's disappearance from a Portuguese holiday resort.


A faded photograph of Madeleine McCann on a church notice board near where she disappeared.

Gerry and Kate McCann have kept Madeleine's disappearence in the public eye.

"Madeleine does seem to have become iconic of missing children," Kate McCann told CNN in an interview as the couple launched a fresh appeal for information about Madeleine's whereabouts and vowed never to give up the search until she is found.

"We believe there is a very good chance Madeleine is out there," Gerry McCann said. "There is certainly no evidence to suggest otherwise and we are doing our best to find her. At the moment we've got a few pieces of a jigsaw and a huge gap and what we are trying to do is build that information."

The couple also reiterated their support for the introduction of a Europe-wide alert procedure for missing children similar to the "Amber alert" system in the United States, which advocates credit with cutting rates of child abduction.

"We are interested in making a world safer for children," Gerry McCann said. "This is something that could be implemented and it will save lives."

Madeleine, then age 3, disappeared from the family's holiday villa at the beach resort of Praia da Luz on the evening of May 3, 2007, as her parents dined in a nearby restaurant.

Police later released sketches of a scruffy, mustachioed man who witnesses claimed to have seen carrying a young girl matching Madeleine's description.

CAMPAIGN HOTLINE
UK: 0845 838 4699
International: +44 845 838 4699 "The chances of Madeleine being found are at least as good if not better than in those first few days," Kate McCann said. "We know she's been abducted by a man. Other than that we just don't know anything. There's a whole range of scenarios in which she could still be alive."

Since September the McCanns themselves have been considered formal suspects -- or "arguidos" -- under Portuguese law in the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.

The couple was stunned and dismayed by the development, Kate McCann said.

"Our reaction was disbelief, first of all, and then devastation because suddenly they were looking at us -- and if they were looking at us then who was looking for Madeleine? Who was looking for my little girl? It was devastating," she said.

The couple's naming as formal suspects prompted a hostile backlash in some British newspapers. Gerry McCann reiterated that they have never been accused of having any involvement in their daughter's apparent abduction.

"Anyone can smear you and anyone can be smeared," he said. "But we have never been accused of anything and we are trying to look forward. What we are saying is that Madeleine is out there and we want to find her."

The couple, from Rothley, Leicestershire, describe the night of Madeleine's disappearance as a parent's "worst nightmare" and the "most horrific situation imaginable."

"Every parent can imagine it but they will probably never feel that desperation," said Gerry McCann. "Any parent knows that fleeting feeling in a park or in a supermarket: Where's my child? And then there's that terrible realization."

The McCanns say they are now trying to lead an "ordinary family life" amid the campaign to find Madeleine, and say their 3-year-old twins' routine of swimming lessons and nursery classes has proved a welcome distraction from the search.

The pair are still too young to comprehend their sister's disappearance and still include her in their games, Kate McCann says.

"They do lots of role playing with toys in which they still include Madeleine," said Kate McCann. "If she walked through the door, I think they would be like: 'Madeleine's back, let's go to the park!'"

But the couple admit that a normal life is impossible while Madeleine remains missing.

"The concept of saying, let's go out and have a nice meal even a year down the line that doesn't hold any appeal or enjoyment," said Gerry McCann. "We need to know everything and we will never give up."

"You have moments when you are exhausted and you think you can't do this anymore but it's a second, a moment," Kate McCann said. "Because you never give up. Who would give up on their own child?"
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)cann.year/index.html


En nergens we missen haar, geen appeal naar de ontvoerder, allen maar dat zij het moeilijk hebben, draai dat eens om naar Maddy, wat voelt zij? Wat, als ze nog leeft- ik betwijfel dat, gaat er door haar heen?
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  vrijdag 2 mei 2008 @ 21:22:13 #173
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Zelfs de Nederlandse TV doet aan deze voorstelling mee, vanavond bij Vermist....
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Indeed Kahaarinm vooral als je bedenkt dat ze geen reden hebben dat Madeleine iets ergs is aangedaan, zoals je zelf denken, maar wel dat Oostenrijks drama erbij halen. Het is van 2-en één, of ze is er niet erg aan toe, of in een kelder, ergens....Wat ziiten ze toch ongelofelijk uit hun nek te kakelen!

Maar goed, ik las net een merkwaardig artikel:
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Correio da Manhã, 2 May 2008, 10h00 Tânia Laranjo

translation: Debk.

Blood marks the death

They aren't enough to condemn the McCanns. They are only miniscule vestiges, whose genetic profile is frighteningly close to Madeleine's. The definitive results are now in Portugal, as are the final analysis of the biological and synthetic residues sent to the National Institute of Legal Medicine (INML) headquartered in Coimbra.

For many investigators, the proof is sufficient, but the truth is that in court it could create doubt. And in a case like this, which also concerns the credibility of our authorities, all the care in the world is not enough.

The definitive exam results have been with PJ for some months and indicate a high degree of similarity between the blood in the McCann's car and that of Madeleine. The same comparisons were made with the vestiges detected in the apartment rented by the English [couple] and where the child, then three years old, disappeared without a trace.

One year later, the impasse in the investigation continues. Without a cadaver or confessions it will continue to be possible for the child's parents to create doubts [in court]. Not because of the quality of the vestiges, but because of the method used in their collection. "The vestiges were not visible to the naked eye and it was necessary to use the 'low copy number'. What that means is that genetic profiles were extracted from all the people that left vestiges in that place. We are not dealing with contamination of the samples, but the possibility, mostly academic, that someone with an identical genetic profile combined with all the others," affirmed a source within the process to CM.

In addition, Corte Real, responsible for the genetic analysis at INML, told CM that there are no perfect DNA matches. Without referring specifically to this case, the specialist reiterated that 99.99% results are valid, almost standalone, in paternity suits. "If we are talking about cases where various genetic profiles were collected then the results are lower [than 99.99%]."

"Maddie is missing" (Gerry and Kate McCann, Maddie's parents, to SIC TV)

- How has this past year been?

Kate: I spend the entire day with Sean and Amélie. It has been very difficult, but I continue to believe that Maddie is alive.

Gerry: It was by far the most difficult year. We continue to be motivated by the strong possibility that she is alive.

- Do your younger children continue to ask about their sister?

Kate: They talk about her every day. She is part of their lives. At times it is difficult, other times touching. She is part of their lives.

Gerry: I believe that if Maddie returned home today they would react normally ... they are very little, and don't yet ask questions. At this point, they just know that Maddie is missing.

Kate: We can only tell them the truth when we know it.

Gerry: They have the notion that they last saw Maddie in Portugal. They think that if they go back, they'll find their sister.

NOTES

18 Interviews

Yesterday, Maddie's parents gave 18 interviews to the media.

Message to the Abductor

"All we want is Madeleine back and you can free yourself of this situation," says Gerry.

The Apartment

In apartment 5a at the Ocean Club vestiges of blood were found, whose DNA is similar to Maddie's. One of the vestiges was behind the sofa.

The Car

The discovery of vestiges in the car rented after the disappearance mandated the about-face of the investigation. The exam results caused the parents to become arguidos.
Vreemd, terwijl andere bronnen melden dat de DNA-resultaten nog steeds niet openbaar cq bekend zijn, of toch wel??? Ex-copper Beachy denkt (waar bovenstaand artikel ook vandaan komt): "We are not dealing with contamination of the samples, but the possibility, mostly academic, that someone with an identical genetic profile combined with all the others," affirmed a source within the process to CM."If Correia da Manha is reporting the state of the evidence correctly, this is a misunderstanding of the science. Unless Madeleine has an unknown identical twin somewhere, there is no one else on earth with a genetic profile identical to hers."

Afijn, houdt de spanning er in zullen we maar zeggen... Of heeft Clarence Mitchell z'n jatjes in deze krant kunnen zetten.... Oja, 'low copy number' wat betreft DNA is nu wel officeel geaccepteerd in de UK, eerdere post.

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  zaterdag 3 mei 2008 @ 00:10:23 #175
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@ Suko,
Door alle interviews enz van de McCanns ben ik me wel gaan afvragen waarom blijft het zo stil in Portugal?
Daar moeten inmiddels toch ook een aantal mensen met opgetroken wenkbrauwen naar deze show zitten te kijken ?
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Op zaterdag 3 mei 2008 00:10 schreef Tmaatje het volgende:
@ Suko,
Door alle interviews enz van de McCanns ben ik me wel gaan afvragen waarom blijft het zo stil in Portugal?
Daar moeten inmiddels toch ook een aantal mensen met opgetroken wenkbrauwen naar deze show zitten te kijken ?
Yep, in de diverse berichten is gerapporteerd dat mensen aldaar het liefst niet meer willen worden herrinerd aan deze tragedie. Nog ff doorbijten voor de bewonders, vandaag wordt er een dienst gehouden in de kerk van Praia da Luz, alleen o.a. broer John McCann is aanwezig die naderhand een verklaring zal voorlezen, opgesteld door the one and only Clarence Mitchell. Wel zijn er al veel (ramp)toeristen en veel pers. Ik begrijp die dienst heus wel, in wat voor omstandigheden Madeleine is verdwenen, een speciale dag als vandaag is het minste wat men kan doen. Overigens zijn de McCanns op advies van hun advocaten niet in Portugal zo hoorde in gisteren in hun eigen docu.

Nu ik het daar toch over heb, waarom worden er leugens verteld...zoals dat Kate tijdens haar verhoor door de Portugese ondervragers haar is voorgesteld dat ze maar moest bekennen dat Madeleine per ongeluk om het leven is gekomen en dat ze daardoor strafvermindering zou krijgen.
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But it was reported that Kate McCann was being offered a deal. Admit accidentally killing Madeleine and face a reduced sentence. "You know, I'd have fought to the death to be honest at that point.There was no way I was going to be railroaded into something."
Dat is dus pertinent niet waar en is ook door haar Portugese adcovaat ferm tegengesproken, die mogelijkheid kent de Portugese wet namelijk niet. Waarom dan toch in de docu vertellen???

En ook op het laatst dat de PJ heeft gelekt wat betreft dat Madeleine op 3 mei bij het ontbijt zou hebben gezegd waarom Kate niet kwam kijken toen ze die avond daarvoor moest huilen, allang is nu door die bewuste journo verteld dat het een Spaanse lek-bron was, bovendien hadden velen mensen rondom de McCanns al die verklaringen al gelezen, ook Metodo 3, in Spanje...toevallig toch weer. Je zag ook Clarence Mitchell in beeld met z'n mobiel in Brussel toen zogenaamd dat lek hem ter ore kwam. Ik heb het al eerder, en ook anderen, gepost, dat is gelekt (imo) om te laten zien dat Madeleine op 3 mei nog leefde, want daaraan wordt getwijfeld...En verder vond ik het buitengewoon opmerkelijk dat de McCanns dachten dat iemand mogelijk op die avond (2 mei) dat ze moest huilen (in de docu meldden ze dat Maddie letterlijk zei "Where were you last night when me and Sean cried?") misschien al aanwezig is geweest....dat ze daarom huilden. For Pete's sake, en dan toch wéér de kids alleen laten??? Omdat er geen buggies waren...? Maar dát was de reden waarom ze dit zo aan de politie hadden verteld, er was mogelijk iemand al op 2 mei binnen geweest... Ach ja, achteraf iets invullen is zo makkelijk. En dat Tapasrestaurant lag volgens Gerry zowat vlak naast hun apartement, (toch minstens 75 -100 yard en verscholen achter struiken), en even werd vergeten dat het buiten de hekken was gesitueerd, niet afgesloten en aan de openbare weg. En verder zei Kate dat ze alles hebben verteld aan de Portugese politie...not, er liggen nog een aantal vragen te wachten.

Mijn algemene indruk is verder van deze docu niets heeft toegevoegd aan wat ik al dacht. Eigenlijk nog erger, but hé, dat is mijn mening. Duurde ook veel te lang, Pffff. Verder nog geen nieuws gelezen.

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[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Suko op 03-05-2008 11:23:46 (toevoeging) ]
  zaterdag 3 mei 2008 @ 11:42:02 #177
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Alweer een jaar geleden. Ik vind het echt ongelooflijk dat er nog steeds niet duidelijk is wat er met Maddy is gebeurd. Al dat onderzoek en zoveel vage aanwijzingen en dan niks concreet weten te krijgen. Wat is dat toch frustrerend.
Ik blijf toch de ouders verdenken, althans ik vermoed dat zij weten waar Maddy is en wat er met haar is gebeurd. Maar ik begin zo langzamerhand het gevoel te krijgen dat wij er nooit achter zullen komen.
Hetzelfde eigenlijk als met Nathalee Holloway. Maar ik hoop dat jij gelijk hebt met je rotsvaste overtuiging, Kahaarin.
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
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Echt, ik hoop ook dat de waarheid naar boven komt, maar ik vrees van niet. Er staan teveel reputaties op het spel, niet in het minst die van de Britse overheid. Iedereen zit er te diep in, het zou toch een geweldige blamage zijn als schuldigen in hun midden worden ontmaskerd...

Anyway, Charlotte schreef een scherp stukje aangaande het oproepen van eventuele getuigen door de McCanns en dan dit OOK aan hen door te geven....
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Mr McCann, 39, said: "This is a last chance to capture a lot of information which has maybe gone into the investigation and we are not privy to.

"Clearly we need to know that everything has been done. What we are asking people to do is if you have given information to police, Crimestoppers, the Portuguese police, we are asking you to give it to us as well.”


Somehow that does not ring right. I may be wrong but I understood that eye-witnesses were not able to release information to suspects in their own case? Already the McCanns have broken the Portuguese secrecy laws by talking about the evening of 3rd May when Madeleine disappeared, now they are asking anyone who has given information to the Portuguese police to give it to them as well.

Makes a person wonder if the speculation that the British government may be involved is true. You can read the whole article here: ITN
Misschien iets te scherp, artikel is nu weer weg...
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[ Bericht 2% gewijzigd door Suko op 03-05-2008 13:39:55 (toevoeging) ]
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Ik hoorde net op BBC World dat mogelijk met 14 dagen de rechter zal beslissen of de files mogen worden ingekeken door de McCanns, Robert Murat én de pers. Maar een reporter (Jane Hill) in Praia da Luz vertelde dat de rechter ook beslissen dat het misschien nog 3 maanden kan duren, dus dat wordt nog spannend.
  zaterdag 3 mei 2008 @ 15:22:34 #180
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Madeleine McCann een jaar verdwenen
ANP, Reuters, AFP
gepubliceerd op 03 mei 2008 12:32, bijgewerkt op 12:32

LONDEN/PRAIA DA LUZ - In onder meer het Verenigd Koninkrijk en in Portugal staan zaterdag talrijke mensen stil bij de verdwijning van het Britse meisje Madeleine McCann, precies een jaar geleden. Dit meldde de Britse omroep BBC zaterdag. De ouders van Madeleine begonnen de dag met een besloten gebedsbijeenkomst in Leicesterchire.

Madeleine verdween op 3 mei 2007 uit een vakantiewoning van haar ouders in het Zuid-Portugese Praia da Luz. Haar ouders, die door de Portugese politie als verdachten worden beschouwd, hebben een internationale campagne opgezet om hun verdwenen dochter terug te vinden.

De afgelopen dagen gaven ze weer talrijke interviews, zoals met de Amerikaanse nieuwszender CNN. Daarin zeiden ze ervan overtuigd te zijn dat hun dochtertje, dat inmiddels bijna vijf moet zijn, nog leeft.

De ouders, vrienden en sympathisanten van de McCanns hebben iedereen opgeroepen zaterdagavond tussen 22.30 uur en 23.00 uur - ongeveer de tijd waarop Madeleine een jaar geleden verdween - kaarsen te ontsteken. De actie heeft als symbolisch doel om ‘de verlichte weg naar huis’ aan te duiden voor Madeleine. Verscheidene familieleden van de McCanns zijn naar de Algarve afgereisd om daar herdenkingsbijeenkomsten bij te wonen.

Het hoofd van de Portugese politie, Alípio Ribeiro, maakte zaterdag nog eens duidelijk dat het onderzoek naar de verdwijning van Madeleine niet is gesloten en dat de ouders nog steeds als verdachten worden beschouwd. De ouders gelden sinds september vorig jaar officieel als verdachten in de zaak. Zij ontkennen zelf elke betrokkenheid bij de verdwijning van hun dochter


De volkskrant is kennelijk nog wel in staat een enigszins afgewogen bericht te produceren.
Here we are now, entertain us.
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Hajo Voyeur, Spaanse muts aka Sombrero! Nou ja, wel ontdaan van alle franje dat dan weer wel. Ik hoorde net een opmerkelijk bericht op BBC-nieuws vanuit Praia da Luz. Dat geldschieter Brian Kennedy (Clarence Mitchell e.a. worden door hem betaald) vorig jaar een onmoeting heeft gehad met mede fomeel verdachte Robert Murat, dat bevestigde zijn advocaat aldaar, de inhoud van dat gesprek werd niet bekend gemaakt. Overigens is Murat zelf dit weekend niet aanwezig, lijkt me verstandig. Jornal de Notícias heeft wel wat details, vertaling LI, 3arguidofroum:
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McCanns after Murat

The McCanns look for answers in Robert Murat, they are convinced of his involvement in the disappearance of their daughter. The multimillionaire that supports the expenses with lawyers and the private detectives of the Spanish agency "Método 3" went on purpose to Algarve to know the British.

Brian Kennedy offered to help him, although he was unable to explain how. Why? Why does he believe that Robert or his mother Jennifer might have seen someone on the night of 3rd of May in the area of the Ocean Club. He was prepared to pay to the best technicians to draw a photofit of a possible suspect. Saying one thing and then saying another he ended to say that Kate and Gerry believe that he is innocent and they never came publicly to accuse him but he insisted that Murat might remember some important detail to help them find Madeleine.

The JN knows that Murat did not accept the help of the multimillionaire. On the contrary he was upset with the questions that were made and with the insistence of the multimillionaire that wanted him to remember the night of the disappearance, when Murat always said that he spent the night in his mother's house, Jennifer, in Praia da Luz.

The meeting - a dinner that Brian Kennedy asked to be discreet and far away from the eyes of the press - took place in the end of last year at a house of Murat's relatives in Burgau (Vila do Bispo). At the dinner were present Murat and Kennedy, the respective lawyers, Jennifer Murat and the aunt and uncle of Murat.

After dinner was Brian Kennedy that finished the conversation. He could not explain why three friends of the couple, belonging to the group "Tapas 7" came publicly saying that they saw Robert Murat in the area of the Ocean Club in the night of 3 of May and he (Kennedy) ended to enter in contradiction.

Francisco Pagarete does not confirm this meeting but the JN knows that the PJ is aware and that they monitored the steps of Kennedy and the detectives of Método 3 very closely. According to the lawyer one year after the disappearance of Maddie, Murat "still does not understand how his name was involved in the case". "Everything is very strange" says the lawyer regretting that " a person was involved in this story without having nothing to do with it"
En wat heeft die Brian Kennedy dan voor hidden agenda??? En was het niet zo dat Robert Murat en z'n moeder eind vorig jaar enorm zijn achtervolgd en getreiterd door die vlerken van Metodo 3, nou begrijp ik waarom....je blijft je verbazen... Discussie/ theorieën hier verder te volgen. Overigens zie ik hier ook weer enigszins een spin...eigenlijk, de avond op 3 mei weer bevestigen, niets verbaasd mij meer...

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Oh well, algemeen is de gedachte dat bovenstaand artikel idd Clarrie-talk is... Reminder voor straks: Madeleine McCann: 1 jaar na haar verdwijning SBS6 23.10 - 00.10u

See the tormented parents when unaware of being filmed < filmpje uit een interview deze week op BBC East Midlands En na ca. 2 min 40....van zo zielig, naar zo vrolijk. Wat shots van vlak ná de opname:



Zou de BBC dat stiekem express hebben vrijgegeven??? Bron

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  zaterdag 3 mei 2008 @ 22:55:14 #183
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Tja, ik zag het filmpje en er viel mij de eerste keer echt niks op. Pas toen ik echt bewust na 2.40 ging kijken, zag ik het. Ja, dit vind ik dan weer net te ver gaan om dit helemaal uit te vergroten.
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
  zondag 4 mei 2008 @ 12:32:27 #184
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Op vrijdag 2 mei 2008 21:51 schreef Suko het volgende:
Indeed Kahaarin vooral als je bedenkt dat ze geen reden hebben dat Madeleine iets ergs is aangedaan, zoals je zelf denken, maar wel dat Oostenrijks drama erbij halen. Het is van 2-en één, of ze is er niet erg aan toe, of in een kelder, ergens....Wat ziiten ze toch ongelofelijk uit hun nek te kakelen!
Spijkers en koppen, schone bibsen en propaganda, ze hebben zich er zo in vastgedraaid dat ze er zelf niet eens meer uitkomen, wel ontvoerd door een pedo, vastgehouden door iemand die ze haar two-pence worth geeft, wat is het nu?
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Maar goed, ik las net een merkwaardig artikel:


Vreemd, terwijl andere bronnen melden dat de DNA-resultaten nog steeds niet openbaar cq bekend zijn, of toch wel??? Ex-copper Beachy denkt (waar bovenstaand artikel ook vandaan komt): "We are not dealing with contamination of the samples, but the possibility, mostly academic, that someone with an identical genetic profile combined with all the others," affirmed a source within the process to CM."If Correia da Manha is reporting the state of the evidence correctly, this is a misunderstanding of the science. Unless Madeleine has an unknown identical twin somewhere, there is no one else on earth with a genetic profile identical to hers."

Afijn, houdt de spanning er in zullen we maar zeggen... Of heeft Clarence Mitchell z'n jatjes in deze krant kunnen zetten.... Oja, 'low copy number' wat betreft DNA is nu wel officeel geaccepteerd in de UK, eerdere post.
Precies, net wat we al dachten, de PJ zit op meer dan alleen wat er gelekt is, we zullen zien.
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Op zaterdag 3 mei 2008 11:42 schreef livelink het volgende:
Alweer een jaar geleden. Ik vind het echt ongelooflijk dat er nog steeds niet duidelijk is wat er met Maddy is gebeurd. Al dat onderzoek en zoveel vage aanwijzingen en dan niks concreet weten te krijgen. Wat is dat toch frustrerend.
Ik blijf toch de ouders verdenken, althans ik vermoed dat zij weten waar Maddy is en wat er met haar is gebeurd. Maar ik begin zo langzamerhand het gevoel te krijgen dat wij er nooit achter zullen komen.
Hetzelfde eigenlijk als met Nathalee Holloway. Maar ik hoop dat jij gelijk hebt met je rotsvaste overtuiging, Kahaarin.
Ik hoop echt dat er nog een keer iemand doorslaat, ik blijf zeggen dat een kind niet zomaar van de aardbodem kan verdwijnen hoe goed ze ook is verstopt, levend of overleden.
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  zondag 4 mei 2008 @ 12:35:18 #185
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Madeleine McCann: That was the week that was
Well thank God that week is now over. An obscene blitz by the fawning British media enlisted to scramble to the aid of the MDF - McCann Defence Force. All that was missing was Kenneth Moore driving along in an old MG with a pipe in his mouth, telling us what a frightfully fine family the McCanns are.

"Poor Kate" and "Frail Kate" bombarded targets such as logic, common sense - and the vision to see that Kate changes expression as quickly as a camera shutter. One second she's in tears then "click" and she's as beaming and confident as a cup final winner.

Of course there was the now compulsory shot at the Portuguese police, and the customary hijacking of other people's tragedy by using the case of the poor Austrian girl as a shred of hope.

Hope? Who for Kate? For you or for Madeleine?

Personally I would be scared to death at the thought of my daughter being locked up with a deranged sex offender. I certainly would not be so bloody gleeful at the prospect as Kate appeared to be. But of course this whole circus long ago ceased being about Madeleine - it's all about Rothley's finest - beaming examples of parental responsibility whose only sin is to have made a "marginal error" as one reporter described what most people call neglect.

At least one person knows what happened. At least one person knows where the little mite is. At least one person can answer the question so many caring, concerned people around the world want to know.

At least one person can give a little girl dignity, respect and peace.

Whoever knows - it's time. Time to speak.

Not only for Madeleine - but also for yourself.


Mike Hitchen, Mike Hitchen Consulting Publisher of
i On Global Trends and Sydney Irresistible
http://ionglobaltrends.bl(...)s-week-that-was.html

Nog maar even een quote van een blogger, ik weet dat het een griezel is Suko maar hier slaat hij de spijker imho wel op zijn kop, laten we hopen dat dit ook echt eens gaat gebeuren.
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Op zondag 4 mei 2008 12:35 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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http://ionglobaltrends.bl(...)s-week-that-was.html

Nog maar even een quote van een blogger, ik weet dat het een griezel is Suko maar hier slaat hij de spijker imho wel op zijn kop, laten we hopen dat dit ook echt eens gaat gebeuren.
Tuurlijk is dit terecht een well spoken comment, ondanks dattie door een rivaal als een nutter wordt omschreven, who cares anyway...

En columnist, Rod Liddle van The Times schrijft ook van zich af:
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Madeleine, the incidental onlooker

Come on, be honest. When Kate McCann appears before you on your television screen, do you sink your head low and remember poor Madeleine, somehow spirited out of that Praia da Luz apartment, or are you overwhelmed with a sense of irritation, annoyance and ennui?

Or like me, is it a little bit of both, callous pig that I am?

Madeleine went missing exactly a year ago. I very much hope she is found, but I very much doubt that she will be. And I’m absolutely certain that the latest anniversary publicity blitz will do nothing to help any of us - Kate, Gerry, the viewers - find anything about “Maddy”, one way or the other. Perhaps another dippy tourist will see some toddler in Chiang Mai or Torremolinos or Constanta and hysterically contact the media.

Kate and Gerry will be there to express hope and reiterate the point that they know they let her down by having a meal 100 metres away when they, or someone, should have been in rather closer contact.

The weird thing is the way the story has taken on a life of its own, with Madeleine as a terribly absent onlooker, almost incidental to the whole charade.
Ook uit The Times: ‘Pray like mad,’ begs tearful Kate McCann Toch wat zorgerlijk, nou weet ik opeens ook hoe die supporting lunatics van HTFM zijn ontstaan, pfffff. En Joana Morais vergelijkt dt Britse en Portugese pers in dit artikel: McCanns: The Uk Media Versus The Portuguese Media Game En dan een artikel op de site van Nigel, vertaling/translation Joana Morais:
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Tapas cook breaks silence about the McCanns[quote]Tapas Cook Video Translation

[Inside SIC Studio] > Filmpje, Portugees: Tapas Cook Breaks Silence and talks about the McCanns Meer op dit forum, the 3arguido's

Journalist on Studio: And tomorrow, 3rd of May marks a year since Madeleine McCann disappeared. There in Praia da Luz, Maria João [name of the other Journalist], good evening, is there any ceremonial service predicted?

[Cut to journalist on location]

Maria João: Here, in the Ocean Club, no, nothing is going to happen here to mark the date, just a mass that will be done tomorrow at 18:30pm in the church of Luz. A bilingual mass which is going to mark one year since the disappearance of Maddie. In relation to the process, there are no new developments expected for the next few days. Only in the 15th the Judge of Criminal Instruction from Portimão’s Court is going to reassess if the process continues or not under Secrecy of Justice. It’s very likely that the process continues like in the last year. Who broke the silence, while we're on the subject, were the Portuguese employees from the Tapas Bar, the restaurant where the couple McCann had dinner in the night of Maddie's disappearance. Those 8 Portuguese employees didn't see their contracts renewed this year. They were obliged in the last 12 months to be silent, forbidden to talk with journalists. Since their contracts were not renewed they decided to talk. SIC has spoken with the cook.

[Cut to medium shot of 2 people behind a tree]

Voice over Introduction: She doesn't 'show' her face but a year later and without working in the Ocean Club, Manuela decided that she wasn’t obliged to the silence anymore. The cook [chef] who prepared a 'Robalo' [Snook fish/ Sargeant fish] with cuscus [signature dish of the Arab world] and the pepper steak meal the McCanns had for dinner on the night Maddie disappeared was in the griller area 3 metres away from the table of the couple.

[Shot of interior of the Ocean Club, focus on the Tapas Bar]

Manuela, the cook: They had already eaten the main course, [Cut to blurry image of a woman’s face, with a strong southern accent from Algarve], because it was already around 9:30pm when she gave the alarm.

Voice over: This former employee from the Tapas tells that immediately various colleagues left their work posts to help the searches. Meanwhile, in the hours that followed, during most of the time the McCanns stayed inside the apartment.

Manuela: My colleagues were indignant [angered/offended], because they went… One of them even had his feet all red, tired… and he was offended because he went to search though he wasn't anything related to the girl, and the parents didn't. [Cut to apartment] They stayed indoors, in the apartment.

[Various shots around the Ocean Club, archive footage of Police and Media]

Voice Over: A year ago, suddenly everything changed in the Ocean Club. The quiet resort, ideal for family holidays, was invaded by police and journalists.

Manuela: The Ocean Club, the Tapas turned into pandemonium [chaos]. No one could get out, no one could get in. Even if we were married, our husbands couldn't get in, neither our friends. Everything was surrounded… The security officers didn't know the employees. They thought the employees were journalists. In the beginning everything was really complicated.

Voice Over: The Judiciary went in a full scale operation to Praia da Luz. For more than a month the investigators created a kind of headquarters in one of the apartments of the Ocean Club. All the employees from the resort were heard.

Manuela: They all went in two… in two hours by two hours, two [referring to the number of people –in pairs], during sometime. Close to a month. We were almost 200 employees.

Voice Over: Manuela remembers seeing Madeleine sometimes.

Manuela: When the Parents would put her at the crèche, in the babysitters, the kitchen was next to it.

Journalist on location: How was Madeleine’s routine during those holidays? When she entered there, in the Ocean Club?

Manuela: She got in, was delivered to the babysitters. The babysitters would do a class; they would do a group course with the girls. Between 4pm and 4:30pm they had something to eat. In the morning they had a fruit lunch [breakfast?]… And then the parents would come to pick them up at 5 o’clock in the afternoon.

Journalist: In the middle of all those children do you remember Maddie?

Manuela: Because she entered there, she would wave goodbye, or say hello…She was really nice [lovely/polite]. She was always smiling.

Voice Over: After the disappearance of the girl, several family members of Kate and Gerry came to the Algarve.

Manuela: I remember that the family members instead of being worried with the family, would go to the pool, rented the tennis court, played tennis… Instead of being worried about the child that had disappeared!

Voice Over: The majority of the employees who were in the Tapas in the night of the Maddie’s disappearance have already left the resort.

Manuela: The contract ended and they sent us to unemployment.

Journalist: All the team that was in the Tapas that night?

Manuela: All the team that was there in that night.

Voice Over: After the disappearance of Maddie, the McCanns stayed in the Ocean Club for 65 days more. In July they moved to a house in the outskirts, away from the journalists eyes. It was there that they stayed until the 9 of September, the day that they went back to England.
Ik weet niet wat ik ervan moet denken maar een beetje tegenslur moet kunnen.... By the way, docu gisteren op SBS6 was gewoon een verknipte HH van die docu op de BBC vorig jaar, wat een flutzender is het toch...!

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  maandag 5 mei 2008 @ 11:21:37 #187
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Op zondag 4 mei 2008 13:54 schreef Suko het volgende:

Tuurlijk is dit terecht een well spoken comment, ondanks dattie door een rivaal als een nutter wordt omschreven, who cares anyway...
Vond ik ook, maar je had toch het een en ander gevonden over een vete tussen hem en een andere conspiracy nutter? Was echt plaatsvervangende schaamte dat gedoe.
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En columnist, Rod Liddle van The Times schrijft ook van zich af:
Goed, men houd zich niet meer in dus, ik denk dat Clarrie binnenkort wel weer een sob-story uit zijn hoge hoed haalt als tegenwicht.
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Ook uit The Times: Pray like mad,’ begs tearful Kate McCann Toch wat zorgerlijk, nou weet ik opeens ook hoe die supporting lunatics van HTFM zijn ontstaan, pfffff. En Joana Morais vergelijkt dt Britse en Portugese pers in dit artikel: McCanns: The Uk Media Versus The Portuguese Media Game En dan een artikel op de site van Nigel, vertaling/translation Joana Morais:
Die hebben dat iets te letterlijk genomen idd.
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Ik weet niet wat ik ervan moet denken maar een beetje tegenslur moet kunnen.... By the way, docu gisteren op SBS6 was gewoon een verknipte HH van die docu op de BBC vorig jaar, wat een flutzender is het toch...!
My thoughts exactly, tenenkrommend.

Uit het rondje Anorak:
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THE HERALD: “British children taken into custody in Portugal as parents too drunk”

Hotel staff in Vilamoura, in the Algarve, called police after Eamon McGuckin, 34, and his wife Antoinette, 32, collapsed while on holiday on Friday night. The couple, believed to be from Magherafelt, Northern Ireland, were taken to a health centre in nearby Loule while their children, one-year-old Adam, two-year-old Amy and Aaron, six, were taken to the Refugio Aboim Ascensao children’s home in Faro.

Allegedly, of course. It’s shocking. And worse:

The incident happened on the eve of the first anniversary of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who went missing from her family’s Algarve holiday flat while her parents dined nearby.

DAILY MAIL: “Three British children taken into care after parents ‘drank themselves into a stupor’ on Algarve holiday”

The manager of the Mourabel hotel in Vilamoura, where the family were staying, said: “Fortunately the children were safe - otherwise it might have been not one Maddie, but three Maddies.”
Goede zaak, er wordt nu blijkbaar wel beter opgelet.

http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/183603.html
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Hoi Kahaarin. Ja, ik las dat vanmorgen ook. Kids zijn wel weer terug bij de ouders maar het is natuurlijk op z'n minst heel bedenkelijk. Valt me trouwens al een tijdje op hoeveel Engelsen naar de fles grijpen als je wat tv-series bekijkt of docu's. Naast de gebruikelijke cup of tea staat er altijd wel een fles van het een ander binnen handbereik. Zal wel mede komen door die pub-cultuur, ook tijdens de luchbreaks en na het avondmaal. Ik heb wel verhalen gelezen dat de McCanns en hun Tapasvriendjes best wel veel dronken, voor, tijdens en na het eten, bier en cocktails. En dat naast de huiswijn die bij de prijs was inbegrepen. Dit artikel op de site van Joana Marais vond ik intrigerend, komt oorspronkelijk uit de Daily Express maar is natuurlijk nu 'missing':
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20/12/07
The waiter’s testimony

WITNESS GOES ON THE RUN ‘TO PROTECT HIS EVIDENCE’

THE key witness in the missing Madeleine McCann case was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal. Police have sworn the waiter to secrecy over his vital testimony and know where he is. But friends say he is terrified his identity is about to be revealed and that he will come under pressure from rival factions in the case. He is scared of British and Portuguese government influence in the probe. Friends claim he is also wary of the team of private eyes hired by Kate and Gerry McCann to help find their daughter. MADELEINE McCann’s disappearance could only be the fault of her parents or a family friend, it was claimed yesterday.

MCCANNS OR A FRIEND MUST BE TO BLAME

A crucial eyewitness accuses the McCanns of being irresponsible parents.

The waiter who served them on that fateful night says he cannot understand why they did not use the resort’s £10-a-night babysitting service. He even goes on to claim that he told police: “I did not think she had been taken by an abductor. “I told them it had to be one of the family or a friend. It had to be someone close.” Jose Batista, 45, broke almost six months of silence to give the most detailed account yet of the McCanns’ holiday and the build-up to Madeleine’s disappearance. Mr Batista, who served the McCanns and their friends at the tapas restaurant where they were dining on the night Madeleine disappeared, says they could not have seen their apartment from their table, as they have claimed. He also says he was surprised that they apparently made a special arrangement with staff so that they could leave their children alone on four consecutive nights to eat at the tapas bar near their apartments in the Ocean Club complex in Praia da Luz with their friends, dubbed the Tapas Nine.

“The group did check on their children regularly,” he told the Daily Express. “I know that because I often took food to the table and found one of them was not there. “I would take it back to the kitchen to heat it up. But it was always the men who went to check, never the women. “The only time I can remember Kate McCann leaving the table was the night that the little girl disappeared. “It didn’t really mean anything at the time, but after all that happened I did begin to think that it was slightly strange. Why had Kate suddenly gone to check on the children that time, when she never had before?” Mr Batista said that it was his testimony in four hours of interviews with Portuguese detectives that led to officers questioning why it was part-time GP Kate, 39, who discovered her daughter had vanished and raised the alarm.

The waiter said the McCanns and their friends had approached the resort manager to ask if they could eat at the tapas bar rather than the main restaurant as they had on the first two nights of their holiday. The parents had complained that their children were staying out past their bedtimes when they ate at the main restaurant and were becoming tired and fractious. He said Mark Warner managers apparently agreed and a table was set for the group at the tapas bar. It was nearer to their apartments than the main restaurant and the group felt comfortable leaving their children unattended. For four consecutive evenings the McCanns and their seven friends left their children alone for periods of a few minutes as they drank beer and cocktails and up to 10 bottles of wine between them. But their decision ended in tragedy when Madeleine vanished from the McCanns’ apartment on May 3. Mr Batista’s revelations come as Portuguese police announced that Kate and Gerry’s friends are to face new questioning.

Mr Batista said it was impossible to see the McCanns’ ground-floor apartment from the restaurant despite it being less than 100 yards away. He said: “They left their children alone. If I was in their position I certainly wouldn’t have done that. “If they’ve got money why didn’t they get the cash together to get one nanny to look after all the children in one apartment? It is not right to say you can see their apartment from the restaurant. All you can see is the first floor upwards.” He added: “A few days after Madeleine disappeared I gave a very detailed statement to police like all the other staff. “I told them I did not think she had been taken by an abductor. It would not have been possible to be watching their apartment. “During the evening the streets are quite deserted in that area. I told them it had to be one of the family or a friend. It had to be someone close.” (...)Mr Batista said he was working in the poolside restaurant every night of the McCanns’ holiday.

He said: “They were very classy people. Compared with some of the people we get, they were very polite and quiet. They dressed well and didn’t make a mess or put their feet on chairs, anything like that. “If they hadn’t been such a big group I probably wouldn’t have noticed them at all.” Describing their evening routine he said: “It was always the whole group that went to dinner. “They always ate here, always at the same time and it was always the whole group – four couples and an older woman. “The package they were on included their dinner in the evening, and free wine to go with the meal until dessert is served. “You often get people who keep screaming for more wine or are stupid about the rules, trying to drink as much as possible because it’s free. But the McCanns and their friends were very sensible about it. “Sometimes they would start off with the men having a beer while the women would drink cocktails. It’s been reported that they had 14 bottles of wine a night but I was serving them and I know it was usually between eight and 10. “Afterwards they would mostly just have a coffee or sit around chatting rather than order more alcohol.”

He added: “The group always came around 8pm, arrived within five minutes of each other and ordered their dinner, and they always left together as a group between 10.30pm and 11pm.” Mr Batista described in detail for the first time the events that unfolded the night Madeleine disappeared. He said he was one of four waiting staff on duty during a busy period. Mr Batista said: “I had seen them with the kids by the pool during the day. It was a normal night.

They came at more or less the same time they always arrived. “The adults were obviously enjoying some quiet time, and I realised they were taking it in turns to check on the children. “I remember the men going off to check the children about every 20 minutes.” But around 10pm chaos erupted after Kate returned to the table to alert the group that Madeleine had vanished. Mr Batista said: “It all became madness. We were beginning to wind down at the restaurant and I had been clearing some tables. “I went into the kitchen for a few minutes and when I came out I saw that the McCanns’ table was empty except for the older woman. She looked scared.

“Then I heard all the shouting and screaming coming from the apartments and my colleague told me a child had gone missing.“After that it was chaos. People were running around the resort shouting for Madeleine and we all started to help looking for her.“My partner and I were both trying to help out. We took our cars out and searched for her. There was nothing organised.”
Of het allemaal letterlijk zo weet ik niet maar de zinnen tussen aanhalingstekens zijn door hem verteld, de rest kan mogelijk zijn ingevuld zoals Tabloids wel meer doen. Om iets af te zwakken of erger te maken.

Anyway, Murat, volgens Sky News, wil zeker meewerken qua reconstrucite, nou de McCanns nog: "Gerry and Kate McCann - who are still considered suspects, or 'aguidos' in the case - have not ruled out a return to Portugal. But the two doctors say they are worried about how helpful it would be for the police investigation given the huge media interest in the story. "It is under discussion. It is back to what additional information will help the search," Mr McCann added." En dat Kate het niet aan kan, zo vertelden ze onlangs op de BBC... Maar goed, Portugal wil dat ze komen: "Kate and Gerry McCann have been urged by Portugal's most senior detective to take part in a reconstruction of what happened on the night of their daughter's disappearance." Maar ook hier een smoes om niet komen: "The McCanns have said that they were considering the request but were concerned about taking part while they were still classified as official suspects." En nogmaals een oproep van Gerry McCann: ""Because the police won’t tell us this, we have been forced to compile all the evidence again ourselves. We are begging all witnesses to come forward, even if they have already spoken to police." Wat een foute man toch...dat mag helemaal niet, foei! The Times En verder veel geblaat in de kranten...

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  maandag 5 mei 2008 @ 13:48:01 #189
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Hey Suko en de rest.
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Op maandag 5 mei 2008 12:57 schreef Suko het volgende:
Hoi Kahaarin. Ja, ik las dat vanmorgen ook. Kids zijn wel weer terug bij de ouders maar het is natuurlijk op z'n minst heel bedenkelijk. Valt me trouwens al een tijdje op hoeveel Engelsen naar de fles grijpen als je wat tv-series bekijkt of docu's. Naast de gebruikelijke cup of tea staat er altijd wel een fles van het een ander binnen handbereik. Zal wel mede komen door die pub-cultuur, ook tijdens de luchbreaks en na het avondmaal. Ik heb wel verhalen gelezen dat de McCanns en hun Tapasvriendjes best wel veel dronken, voor, tijdens en na het eten, bier en cocktails. En dat naast de huiswijn die bij de prijs was inbegrepen. Dit artikel op de site van Joana Marais vond ik intrigerend, komt oorspronkelijk uit de Daily Express maar is natuurlijk nu 'missing':
Het is daar idd redelijk gebruikelijk om bij de lunch al bier te drinken, maar ja 's lands wijs 's lands eer zullen we maar zeggen. Veel drinken is natuurlijk subjectief, als ze het gewend zijn dan is het natuurlijk zo dat ze er minder last van hebbe dan wanneer iemand die nooit drinkt een dergelijke hoeveelheid consumeert.
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Of het allemaal letterlijk zo weet ik niet maar de zinnen tussen aanhalingstekens zijn door hem verteld, de rest kan mogelijk zijn ingevuld zoals Tabloids wel meer doen. Om iets af te zwakken of erger te maken.
Tja, in alle artikelen en roddels en weet ik veel wat weet ik niet zo goed wat ik hier van moet zeggen, het is natuurlijk goed mogelijk dat er iemand het groepje in de gaten hield en een ander Maddy heeft meegenomen, net wat die ober zegt, het app was niet te zien vanaf het restaurant.
Als iemand de tapas9 in de gaten hield en zijn cornuit een berichtje stuurde toen de kust veilig was is dat ook heel goed mogelijk, je moet niet vergeten dat het donker was, niemand kan beweren dat het niet mogelijk is, de deur was niet op slot dus inbreken was niet nodig, ik kan me niet voorstellen dat 1 van de tapasgang Maddy zou meenemen, maar goed daar verschillen we van mening over, geeft niets, moet kunnen.
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Anyway, Murat, volgens Sky News, wil zeker meewerken qua reconstrucite, nou de McCanns nog: "Gerry and Kate McCann - who are still considered suspects, or 'aguidos' in the case - have not ruled out a return to Portugal. But the two doctors say they are worried about how helpful it would be for the police investigation given the huge media interest in the story. "It is under discussion. It is back to what additional information will help the search," Mr McCann added." En dat Kate het niet aan kan, zo vertelden ze onlangs op de BBC... Maar goed, Portugal wil dat ze komen: "Kate and Gerry McCann have been urged by Portugal's most senior detective to take part in a reconstruction of what happened on the night of their daughter's disappearance." Maar ook hier een smoes om niet komen: "The McCanns have said that they were considering the request but were concerned about taking part while they were still classified as official suspects." En nogmaals een oproep van Gerry McCann: ""Because the police won’t tell us this, we have been forced to compile all the evidence again ourselves. We are begging all witnesses to come forward, even if they have already spoken to police." Wat een foute man toch...dat mag helemaal niet, foei! The Times En verder veel geblaat in de kranten...
Hier heb ik het toevallig gisteravond over gehad met mijn wederhelft, we begrijpen het niet, als je kind zoek is dan denk je niet aan jezelf, dan doe je alles om te politie ter wille te zijn en je probeert alles om duidelijkheid te scheppen, alles, dan ga je niet zeuren over je arguido status of het feit dat er geen camera's van een crimewatch programma bij mogen zijn, de frase schone konten is ook over tafel gekomen, ze weten dat er iets scheef zit, daarom doen ze lastig, als wij nu eens zouden weten wat en ze daar eerlijk over zijn dan zou ik het misschien snappen. Nu blijft er iets knagen, mijn dacht dat er misschien wel losgeld was geeist en dat daarom de kranten betaald hebben bij die schikking, dat weet ik zo net nog niet, maar het zou wel kunnen, hij zit niet echt in de materie, ik heb hem gisteren een beetje uitgelegd wat er allemaal precies aan de hand is, toen kwam hij hier dus mee. Een frisse blik, mischien zit er iets in, dan zouden Metodo3 dus de onderhandelingen voeren en het Maddy fund gebruikt worden om losgeld te betalen, we zullen zien.
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  maandag 5 mei 2008 @ 13:51:58 #190
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En dan dit, ik weet het niet, het grote indekken en toedekken lijkt begonnen:
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No shame in not finding Madeleine McCann, Portuguese law chief says
May 5 2008 By Sam Marsden

PORTUGAL'S law chief yesterday claimed there was "no shame" in cops failing to solve the Madeleine McCann mystery.

Attorney-general Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro's comments appeared to pave the way for the year-old hunt for the missing four-year-old to be wound down.

In a newspaper interview, Monteiro defended the police inquiry team, pointing out that only one in five missing child cases worldwide is solved.

He said: "These kinds of crimes are extremely difficult. There are one million missing children per year throughout the world and not even 20 per cent are found."

Monteiro also hinted the police case files could remain secret for longer than expected.

Legal sources have suggested the official period of judicial secrecy - which runs out on May 15 - is likely to be extended.

Monteiro said: "We will analyse the state of the case and see whether it is necessary or not to request an extension."

He denied that the Madeleine case had become politicised, but said: "We have already spoken too much about Maddie."

His comments followed reports suggesting the inquiry had stalled and that no charges would be brought.

The Portuguese weekly Expresso said on Friday the police were preparing to exonerate Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, who remain formal suspects.

But yesterday, as Glasgow-born hospital consultant Gerry revealed they planned to slip out of the spotlight following the year's anniversary of her disappearance, a senior detective called on them to return to the Algarve to assist the inquiry.

Alipio Ribeiro, national director of the Policia Judiciaria, was apparently referring to a proposed reconstruction of the night Madeleine went missing, including all the key witnesses.

The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said last night: "If they are close to closing the case, we still want them to keep searching for Madeleine
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http://www.dailyrecord.co(...)says-86908-20405705/

En dan dus toch weer het laatste woord voor Clarrie, alsof ze wat te eisen hebben.......
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Inderdaad Kahaarin, ze hebben niks te eisen en wat die stilte betreft. Sky News meldt: "The couple believe the coverage is "unsustainable" and hope the attention will fade after Madeleine's fifth birthday on May 12." Hij (Gerry) even suggested that it might have led to Portuguese police naming him and his wife as arguidos, or formal suspects, in the case in early September."You look at where it's led for us, the problems it's created," he said."

Hoe krijgtie 't uit de bek want vanaf het begin was en is volgens mij nog steeds de opdracht, keeping Madeleine on the frontpages...dat heb ik tig keer gelezen van henzelf en uit hun omgeving, en nu is de publiciteit de schuld van hun arguido-status...ach ach, die komende stilte zal wel eens een andere betekenis kunnen hebben.

Anyway, Charlotte (van Cutting through the rubbish) merkt terecht op wat betreft die stilte:
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"Team McCann have spent enormous time and energy on counterclaiming claims, persuading the public towards an abduction theory and claiming that the Portuguese police are bumbling, all of which has focused the public’s attention on Kate and Gerry McCann, but perhaps not in the favourable light they had hoped for.But if it is true that they want to slip out of the public spotlight, I wonder what impact their silence will have on the internet. Will there be a ‘need’ for blogs and forums that have been driven by an urge to balance what has appeared to be a rather one-sided case? “Cutting through the Rubbish” will possibly die a death if there is nothing to write about."
Overigens kan dat een interessante theorie zijn van jouw wederhelft:
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dat er misschien wel losgeld was geeist en dat daarom de kranten betaald hebben bij die schikking, dat weet ik zo net nog niet, maar het zou wel kunnen, hij zit niet echt in de materie, ik heb hem gisteren een beetje uitgelegd wat er allemaal precies aan de hand is, toen kwam hij hier dus mee. Een frisse blik, mischien zit er iets in, dan zouden Metodo3 dus de onderhandelingen voeren en het Maddy fund gebruikt worden om losgeld te betalen, we zullen zien.
Heb het wel vaker gelezen, naast andere ook zeer plausibele theorieën. Maar een ontvoering...(met een week was al een website klaar/lintjes besteld/naam geregistreerd e.d. en met 10 dagen online), waarom dan dat oog van Madeleine (ge)misbruiken terwijl dat door de Portugese politie met klem is afgeraden, het betekende een zekere doodvonnis, maar Gerry zei in Vanity Fair, oktober 2007:
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"Although initially reluctant, the McCanns finally informed the media of Madeleine’s unique right eye—a risky revelation. Whoever had taken the child now held a universally recognizable little girl. Gerry understood that. But, he says, the iris “is Madeleine’s only true distinctive feature. Certainly we thought it was possible that this could potentially hurt her or”—he grimaces—“her abductor might do something to her eye.… But in terms of marketing, it was a good ploy.”
Maar Kahaarin, de zaak is zo bizar dat het logisch is dat velen hierover gedachtengangen hebben, álles is mogelijk, en wie ben ik om de waarheid in pacht te hebben, ha ha, no way, dan was ik trouwens al stinkend rijk geworden!

(Overigens zijn de 3 kids van die Britse zuipende ouders in de Algarve toch 'in care.' "A County Londonderry couple on holiday in Portugal have had their three young children temporarily taken into care." BBC)

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  dinsdag 6 mei 2008 @ 13:36:23 #192
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Op maandag 5 mei 2008 20:00 schreef Suko het volgende:
Inderdaad Kahaarin, ze hebben niks te eisen en wat die stilte betreft. Sky News meldt: "The couple believe the coverage is "unsustainable" and hope the attention will fade after Madeleine's fifth birthday on May 12." Hij (Gerry) even suggested that it might have led to Portuguese police naming him and his wife as arguidos, or formal suspects, in the case in early September."You look at where it's led for us, the problems it's created," he said."

Hoe krijgtie 't uit de bek want vanaf het begin was en is volgens mij nog steeds de opdracht, keeping Madeleine on the frontpages...dat heb ik tig keer gelezen van henzelf en uit hun omgeving, en nu is de publiciteit de schuld van hun arguido-status...ach ach, die komende stilte zal wel eens een andere betekenis kunnen hebben.
Ik heb al vaker gadacht dat ze niet wisten wat ze nu wilden, wel media-aandacht/geen media-aandacht, wel samenwerken met de PJ/niet samenwerken met de PJ, wel andere kinderen betrekken/diezelfde families als een baksteen laten vallen, zal ook wel komen omdat ze arguido zijn Suko.
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Overigens kan dat een interessante theorie zijn van jouw wederhelft:

Heb het wel vaker gelezen, naast andere ook zeer plausibele theorieën. Maar een ontvoering...(met een week was al een website klaar/lintjes besteld/naam geregistreerd e.d. en met 10 dagen online), waarom dan dat oog van Madeleine (ge)misbruiken terwijl dat door de Portugese politie met klem is afgeraden, het betekende een zekere doodvonnis.
Dat klopt wel, maar dat was zijn reactie toen ik het hem een beetje summier had uitgelegd, ik ben nu zo ver dat wat mij betreft alles mogelijk is, aliens, een boeman, poltergeisten, etc.
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Maar Kahaarin, de zaak is zo bizar dat het logisch is dat velen hierover gedachtengangen hebben, álles is mogelijk, en wie ben ik om de waarheid in pacht te hebben, ha ha, no way, dan was ik trouwens al stinkend rijk geworden!
Psies, dat proberer ik me ook voor te houden, het spreekwoord zegt dat er niets zo vreemd is als de waarheid, ik denk en hoop dat we er ooit nog wel een keer achter komen.
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(Overigens zijn de 3 kids van die Britse zuipende ouders in de Algarve toch 'in care.' "A County Londonderry couple on holiday in Portugal have had their three young children temporarily taken into care." BBC)
Hierover ook in het rondje Anorak van vandaag:
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Madeleine McCann: The McGuckins, Middle-Class Drinks And
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

DAILY MIRROR: “Portugal booze parents’ court fear”

It’s Eamon and Antoinette McGuckin.

Bank manager Eamon, 35, passed out in the hotel reception while Antoinette, 36, vomited before falling unconscious.

A source close to the family said last night: “They are very ashamed. They want to go to court. They want to say to the judge that the children are safe with them.”

Significant:

Vilamoura is 45 miles from Praia da Luz, where four-year-old Madeleine McCann went missing while her parents were out with friends a year ago.

DAILY MAIL: “Shamed: The middle class parents who got so drunk on holiday their three children were taken into care”

Middle-class drinkers. Who knew of such a thing?

Mr McGuckin used to be manager of the Magherafelt branch of the Ulster Bank, a spokesman said. He left 18 months ago and is understood to now work for a mortgage company. His wife is a full-time mother.

British parents:

The incident has caused outrage in Portugal, where the year-long investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has already raised questions over standards of British parenting.

BELFAST NEWSLETTER: “Couple ‘will face NI social services’”

THE parents of three children taken into care because they apparently got so drunk on holiday they both passed out are likely to face a grilling by social services when they get home from Portugal.With the parallels to the tragic Madeleine McCann case already drawn, the case comes after Portuguese police faced great criticism over their handling of the missing four-year-old English girl.

The parents were said to have been lucky it wasn’t a case of “one Maddie but three Maddies”.

THE INDEPENDENT: “Holiday parents to appear before judge”

Mrs McGuckin has said she drank only three beers and has requested details of hospital blood tests because she was “very surprised” at her reaction, the source said.

The source added: “They were tired, they woke up at around 4am (to travel to Portugal), then there was the flight.

“Then it was too hot - they are very red, they got a lot of sun. All this together could be the reason.”

Drugged?

The incident happened just 45 miles from Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann went missing from her family’s holiday apartment while her parents dined nearby.

THE SUN: “’Quiz kid killer on Maddie’”

Relatives of five-year-old Mari Luz Cortes claim convicted paedophile Santiago del Valle has committed other crimes. Her grandfather Juan Cortes said: “The authorities should investigate him fully because that way they may be able to discover what happened to Madeleine. We are sure he is hiding other secrets from the police.”

MANCHESTER EVENING NEWS: “Man with a special Power”

It’s Joe Power.

If a medium is claiming knowledge of such a case, there is only one logical conclusion about Madeleine’s fate, I venture. But no, Power says his information does come from beyond the grave but ‘from relatives, from Madeleine’s family and people who work closely with me in the spirit world, spirit guides, that type of thing’.

He believes five people were connected with the disappearance of Madeleine. He says he passed his information on to police in Portugal early in the investigation.

How do you work Madeleine McCann into a news story?
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/183633.htmls
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  dinsdag 6 mei 2008 @ 13:52:15 #193
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Ow, gossie, lezen is ook een vak apart.
Er stond gisteren dat de secrecy nog wel eens een keer verlengd kon worden en nu komt er uit de pen van Clarrie het volgende....
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MCCANNS HOPING TO BE CLEARED

10:30 - 06 May 2008

Parents of missing Madeleine McCann hope speculation that Portuguese police are set to shelve their investigation will see the couple soon cleared.

Comments by Portugal's attorney-general, Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro, have been interpreted as preparing the way for the investigation into the disappearance of the Rothley toddler to be shelved - a year after she vanished from the holiday apartment, on May 3, 2007.


He told the newspaper Jornal de Noticias: "(If the investigation) results in failure, it is nothing which should shame the police...

"These kinds of crimes are extremely difficult to investigate."

Legal sources have suggested the official period of judicial secrecy in the investigation - which runs out on May 15 - is likely to be extended for three months until mid-August.

Mr Monteiro said: "(At that time) we will analyse the state of the case and see whether it is necessary or not to request an extension."

Gerry and Kate McCann's official spokesman Clarence Mitchell said they would welcome the end of the investigation if it meant the parents being cleared.

However, he said Portuguese police should not stop searching for the missing child.

He said: "If the attorney-general's comments are some sort of precursor to Gerry and Kate being eliminated from the enquiry and their arguido status being lifted, clearly we welcome them.

"We hope the attorney-general's comments will be followed by swift action.

"If, however, they are close to closing the case, we still want them to keep searching for Madeleine."
http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=132935&command=displayContent&sourceNode=132702&contentPK=20554623&folderPk=77465&pNodeId=132393
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Ah ja, die was ik nog vergeten...aliens, een boeman, poltergeisten, etc... Wat dat dronken Britse stel betreft, de kids mochten weer terug naar paps en mams, een plaatselijke rechtbank zou bepalen wát er verder moest gebeuren, maar het laatste nieuws (BBC) is dat ze dat niet hebben afgewacht en een McCann hebben gedaan...dwz, gevlucht naar de Uk! Ik denk dat in de UK men over het algemeen wel denkt dat de McCanns aan de zuip waren en bang dat de McCanns hun kids zouden worden afgenomen, naast dat ze formeel verdachten werden. Overigens staat de Britse pers vol van dit gebeuren zoals je aangeeft Kahaarin in het artikel van Anorak, ook op radio en tv/internet. Het is wel zo dat Engeland in Europa de nummer 1 is wat drank betreft. Maar vooral in een warm land, moe van de buitenland e.d komt een neut dubbel aan. Vanmorgen op BBC's Breakfast merkte iemand scherp op dat er gewoon niet geboozed moet worden in een vreemd land terwijl je kids alleen zijn, "see what happend to Madeleine." Oeps!

Anyway, ja dat de McCanns gecleared zullen/willen worden lees ik al pakweg een half jaar...ha ha! Maar goed, er is nieuwe hoop voor de McCanns, BBC: "Natalie Horrell was five months old when she was taken from a Cardiff shopping centre. She was returned days later after a police inquiry and a woman was jailed." Maar wel 20 jaar geleden....geeft niks, áls de McCanns besluiten naar Praia da Luz te gaan wegens de reconstructie kunnen ze altijd nog vragen aan de politie of ze vrouwen met een kind hebben zien lopen. En zo kunnen de McCanns en hun team nog jaren vooruit, alle vermisten nagaan en maar linken aan Madeleine, maar dat had ik al ergens geschreven geloof ik...

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En verder blijft dit een interessant artikel (vertaling Li van het 3arguidoforum) uit de Jornal de Notícias - 3/5/2008
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The PJ waits for 9 months for the complete tests

A year after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and nine months after the collection of biological vestiges, the sophisticated and prestigious forensic lab of Birmingham, in England, did not send yet to the PJ the final reports of all the analysis. The JN found that is missing the complete examination to the hairs found in several places and that could help the complex investigation. The PJ was already informed informally that technically will not be possible to determine through DNA analysis if the hair samples belong to Maddie. This is due to fact that the hairs have no capillary tubes.

For this reason, it won't be possible to determine in scientific terms if the hairs found in the boot of the car hired by the McCanns and in the flat of the Ocean Club belong to Madeleine or to one of her brothers. The only data that is possible to obtain without capillary tube is the identification of the mother.

So, the toxicological tests to the same samples are also compromised, they could help to discover if the child took any products that accidentally could cause her death. This is one of the work hypothesis followed by the PJ although they continue to receive almost everyday clues about possible locations of Madeleine, the JN discovered. Some of the denounces are being transmitted by embassies spread all over the world.

Without the complete tests the PJ only has inconclusive data. The September's report of last year about the biological vestiges detected in the boot of the car was important to make the decision of constituting the parents arguidos. In the document, the experts explain that from the 20 "strands" (DNA parcels) detected in the fluids, 15 coincide with the genetic profile of Maddie. But in reality this result does not exclude the possibility that the vestige - that the English lab could not guarantee if it was blood since it was very dry - might belong to a relative of Maddie.

According to information collected by the JN this report was discussed between the Portuguese and British experts and the last ones raised some doubts about what they have written previously (this was the one that Kate and Gerry McCann refuse to reply when questioned).

Irish advances and backtracks

Apart from the results of the analysis made to the vestiges, the PJ has several depositions. An Irish that spent holidays with the family at Praia da Luz, in May last year, guaranteed to the PJ that he saw a man with a child in his lap in the night of 3rd of May. Later he said informally that that man seemed to be Gerry McCann.

This comment of the Smith's family appeared when they observed the images of the McCanns arriving in England at 9th of September. The way Gerry held Sean in his lap when he got out of the plane in the East Midlands airport and the clothes he was wearing, described in the first deposition, were useful to the witness "to clarify the ideas".

But when the PJ wanted to formalise that deposition the witness backtracked and revealed that he was not sure that the person he saw was Gerry. This deposition ended to give credibility to Jane Tanner's words, a friend of the couple, that guarantees having seen a man with a child in the night Madeleine disappeared.

The investigators opted to listen again the witnesses but decide that the depositions would be made through rogatory letters sent to the Leicester police. Before this step was fulfilled, in April, this family was contacted by detectives of Método 3. The JN discovered that since that contact the certainties of the Smiths ended.

Nonetheless the clue ended not to be solid since the British dogs did not detected any cadaver odor in Gerry's clothes contrary to what happened with Kate's clothes. The PJ continues to have many doubts about what really happened between 18,00 and 22,00 hours, when Kate alerted to the disappearance. Everything points to the fact that the reenactment will never happen due to the lack of will of the McCanns.
Eerder schreef de Daily Mail ook hierover, 3rd January 2008
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Metodo 3 are currently trying to re-interview an Irish family who said they saw a man carrying away a child on the night Madeleine disappeared. Martin Smith and his family-from Drogheda in Co. Louth, told police about the sighting - which is strikingly similar to one by a friend of the McCanns, Jane Tanner.

They described a barefoot child and a man wearing beige trousers walking towards the beach in Praia da Luz, about 400yards from the McCanns' holiday apartment. However, they said that the man was definitely not official suspect Robert Murat, whom they had met before and would have recognised." Mr Smith even flew back to Portugal to give evidence but said he had not been contacted by police since making a statement in May
En dan krijg je zomaar 'toevallig' het gevoel dat na het bezoekje van Metodo 3 aan de Smithjes in Ierland die verklaring van hen een andere wending neemt, in het voordeel van de McCanns....want ik vind het wel een forse stap van de PJ dat ze toen de Smithjes lieten overvliegen, Metodo 3 'interviewd' ze daarna en opeens is het maar een vaag verhaal.

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Almeida Rodrigues is the successor to Alípio Ribeiro in the Polícia Judiciária Publico 06 May 2008
(Thanks to 'beachy' from the3arguidos for translation)
Almeida Rodrigues is the successor of Alípio Ribeiro as director of the Policia Judiciaria. It is the first time that the PJ is led by a career investigator. Almeida Rodrigues, now in charge of the PJ in Coimbra, was named as national director, after Alípio Ribeiro today presented his resignation to Justice Minister Alberto Costa.

Jose Maria de Almeida Rodrigues, 49 years, degree in law, is coordinator of criminal investigation of the PJ and was one of three deputy directors at the national office of the former director Santos Cabral. The appointment of Almeida Rodrigues to direct the PJ has since been released by the communications office of the Ministry of Justice, where it is said that the Minister of Justice "has accepted the request for resignation which was delivered today by the national director of the PJ (Alípio Ribeiro)."

Almeida Rodrigues, along with Luis Neves, current head of the Central Directorate for Combating Banditismo (DCCB) in the PJ, was one of two names that, in recent hours, have been considered by the authorities as successors to Alípio Ribeiro, as a police source previously told Lusa.
En daar zijn de posters op het 3arguidoforum niet rouwig om, die waren altijd al boos als Ribeiro sommige uitspraken en acties van mensen uit/in het veld openbaar bekritiseerde. Ik weet er eigenlijk weinig van, wel dat de McCanns tevreden waren met Ribeiro, dat kan niet goed zijn, dus zijn we blij met de vervanging, toch?

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Ik plaats hier een open brief van blogster Joana Morais voor de lezer met gedachten die ik en anderen ook al eerder hebben gepost, het verwoord voor mij deels (sommige sentimenten herken ik niet maar dat geeft niks) het verhaal over een vermist kind en haar ouders, een beschouwing van een Portugese die IMO goed verwoord wat deze tragedie met Portugal en zijn bewoners heeft gedaan, wat voor een lange lange tijd verbonden zal zijn met een klein, mogelijk voor eeuwig vermiste peuter van nog geen 3jr, Madeleine McCann...
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Why is Madeleine an Obsession? - Open Letter to a Reader

I do understand your feelings. For a long time I even dreamt with this little girl, that picture broadcasted so many times was recurrent in my thoughts - her big eyes, biting her lip, so sweet and innocent - the images bombarded in the media brought to each one of us Madeleine, Maddie, Maddy, to our house, to our family, she was present in all the opening news and she won a place in the globalized society's heart and mind. And so did all the "characters" of this sordid affair.

In the beginning I thought it was strange the way the media was portraying the group of parents that stayed in the Tapas bar that night. The parents who left 3 children younger than 4 years old were almost sanctified in the British media and instead of seeing the McCanns questioned by journalists, what I saw was a pressure in the British media editorial guidelines to maintain the defence of the McCanns at all cost even if they had to defame and vilify others like Murat, Amaral, the Judiciary Portuguese Police... Even the remaining friends, the Tapas 7 were never questioned regarding their own selfish attitudes and neglect towards their own children - and that is very unusual in the British Press.

A few days later the McCanns were jogging, playing tennis, creating a media circus, calling high profile politics, diplomats, public relations, creating a trademark for a non-charitable fund, accusing the police of framing them...

I have seen the Mothers of other missing children, like the mother of Rui Pedro, and her eyes tell me the deep sadness and anguish she has endured for the last 10 years. Rui was 11 years old when he went missing on 4th March 1998, apparently he was kidnapped in to a paedophile ring. The boy's mother, Filomena at every opportunity and without a fund travelled to various places, even to see photographs with terrible pictures of boys being sodomized which appear to be similar to Rui. Filomena doesn't cry in public but her twisted facial expression shows an empty soul, her lifeless eyes express a pain and a despair that I only see in mothers in Africa who can't feed and see their children die, in mothers where war prevails and see their sons and daughters killed by guns and bombs - it's an intense emotional suffering and that grief transpires in all this Mothers actions, body language, eyes...

Then I watched the McCanns reading from a script their first statement/appeal to the Media - Where was the affliction, the calamity, the despair that should be there? It didn't seem genuine; images of parents in grief were strikingly different from the McCanns. Kate left the twins alone on the same night the alleged kidnapper took Madeleine, they left the twins in the crèche while campaigning and giving press conferences, they jogged, went to the pool, posed for the media in the beach as a couple in love, they left the twins again alone when they did a Periplus in Europe and in the United States, recent images in video show they laughing in the month Madeleine disappeared...

Even stranger, every time there was a possible sighting of Madeleine, they travelled in to a different place. Unlike Mr. Cortés, the Father of poor Mari Luz, who travelled to Naples, Italy to see an unidentified child though he had an appointment in Portugal with authorities to help the search for his daughter.

I will never forget how the McCanns used Mari Luz pictures without the Cortés family's permission.

In the following months what I saw was a selfish couple more interested in hiring high profile extradition and defence lawyers, hiring spokespersons, defending their image in the media, all calculated, all premeditated. Why?

I saw a spokesman inciting man hunts and using methods like some said "more like the police than the police"- hunts of Moroccan, Gypsy or Mediterranean looking men all based in sketches of witness that gave us the Egg Man, the Bundleman and after 9 months a George Harrison look a like.

I saw a Spanish Agency of detectives coming to Portugal and questioning people though it's illegal, some of those witnesses stated they felt harassed and feared the Metodo3 agents, the same detective that went to Morocco was arrested afterwards connected to narco traffick. Malinka's car was set on fire.... Gordon and Socrates had a meeting where they talked about this process... The Home Office delay in accepting the Rogatory Letter. The huge delay from the FSS Lab results...There are just to many odd and strange connections in this case.

The Portuguese Police was damaged politically since the first night of 3rd May, the Portuguese and Portugal were portrayed as a third world country were cops were corrupted, democracy didn't exist and the system of justice was worst than in North Korea (almost). Racism and open xenophobia was acceptable and some like Parsons, Heffer, expressed it with pure hate in the press while others like MEP Knapman and his assessor Piers Merchant or Timothy Dutton QC attacked and switched the case of a missing child into a 'us versus them' tactic of war, diplomatically and politically.

Owner's of media corporations played the case of a missing girl like a soap opera, an entertainment to be sold as news. Backing the biggest and dirtiest propaganda campaign in support of two persons suspected by the police of involvement in the disappearance of their child. Why?

I thought that I had a role to play, not only for Madeleine, so justice can be done, independently who the guilty ones may be but as well to to uphold for what is right and fair regarding my own country - Portugal.

For all the 'Madeleines' and the future parents of missing children who will be received with a more cynical eye by the police, general public and media either this case is solved or not.

For me and for what values and ethics were instilled in me by my parents and as a Free Portuguese Citizen born in April 1974- the year of the Carnation Revolution. These are some of the reasons to write this blog.

For Justice.
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  woensdag 7 mei 2008 @ 14:02:31 #197
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You are my sunshine......
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Op dinsdag 6 mei 2008 19:59 schreef Suko het volgende:
Ah ja, die was ik nog vergeten...aliens, een boeman, poltergeisten, etc... Wat dat dronken Britse stel betreft, de kids mochten weer terug naar paps en mams, een plaatselijke rechtbank zou bepalen wát er verder moest gebeuren, maar het laatste nieuws (BBC) is dat ze dat niet hebben afgewacht en een McCann hebben gedaan...dwz, gevlucht naar de Uk! Ik denk dat in de UK men over het algemeen wel denkt dat de McCanns aan de zuip waren en bang dat de McCanns hun kids zouden worden afgenomen, naast dat ze formeel verdachten werden. Overigens staat de Britse pers vol van dit gebeuren zoals je aangeeft Kahaarin in het artikel van Anorak, ook op radio en tv/internet. Het is wel zo dat Engeland in Europa de nummer 1 is wat drank betreft. Maar vooral in een warm land, moe van de buitenland e.d komt een neut dubbel aan. Vanmorgen op BBC's Breakfast merkte iemand scherp op dat er gewoon niet geboozed moet worden in een vreemd land terwijl je kids alleen zijn, "see what happend to Madeleine." Oeps!
Ach Suko (Middag@all trouwens ), als de McCanns er mee weg kunnen komen dan zij ook toch, gewoon terug naar huis en de hele zaak vergeten.
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Anyway, ja dat de McCanns gecleared zullen/willen worden lees ik al pakweg een half jaar...ha ha! Maar goed, er is nieuwe hoop voor de McCanns, BBC: "Natalie Horrell was five months old when she was taken from a Cardiff shopping centre. She was returned days later after a police inquiry and a woman was jailed." Maar wel 20 jaar geleden....geeft niks, áls de McCanns besluiten naar Praia da Luz te gaan wegens de reconstructie kunnen ze altijd nog vragen aan de politie of ze vrouwen met een kind hebben zien lopen. En zo kunnen de McCanns en hun team nog jaren vooruit, alle vermisten nagaan en maar linken aan Madeleine, maar dat had ik al ergens geschreven geloof ik...
Goh, al eerder geschreven, waar dan? Je hebt gelijk hoor, al dat gedoe over die reconstructie, schone konten zeg ik je, schone konten.
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Tja, same old, same old, zucht.
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En dan krijg je zomaar 'toevallig' het gevoel dat na het bezoekje van Metodo 3 aan de Smithjes in Ierland die verklaring van hen een andere wending neemt, in het voordeel van de McCanns....want ik vind het wel een forse stap van de PJ dat ze toen de Smithjes lieten overvliegen, Metodo 3 'interviewd' ze daarna en opeens is het maar een vaag verhaal.
In spin de boog ging in, uit spuit de verklaring uit.

Dat die chief is opgestapt vind ik overigens wel een goede zaak, als de McConns blij met hem waren dan heeft hij ze gewoon te veel hun zin gegeven, hij stond wrs onder te veel druk en heeft zich misschien wel iets te veel aan hun kant geschaard, dat pikt de PJ natuurlijk van geen kanten.

En verder is het stil aan het front, geen enkel bericht, hopelijk voor de storm, maar ook dat heb ik al eerder geschreven.
be nice or go away
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Op woensdag 7 mei 2008 14:02 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
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Goh, al eerder geschreven, waar dan? Je hebt gelijk hoor, al dat gedoe over die reconstructie, schone konten zeg ik je, schone konten.
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In spin de boog ging in, uit spuit de verklaring uit.

Dat die chief is opgestapt vind ik overigens wel een goede zaak, als de McConns blij met hem waren dan heeft hij ze gewoon te veel hun zin gegeven, hij stond wrs onder te veel druk en heeft zich misschien wel iets te veel aan hun kant geschaard, dat pikt de PJ natuurlijk van geen kanten.
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Hajo Kahaarin. Ha ha, altijd leuk jouw reacties/post te lezen. Nee geen echt nieuws. De BBC flikt het ook weer een aantal fouten te melden:
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"Alípio Ribeiro, the national director of the judicial police, reportedly told a local radio station he was "tired" of being in the media spotlight. He had made a number of public comments about Madeleine's disappearance, despite judicial secrecy laws. In February, he said police had been "hasty" in naming her parents."
Dat was alleen te snel gedaan omdat je als Arguido niets meer hoeft te zeggen en dus vluchten ze vlak na het 'vonnis' het land uit, de McCanns waren als getuigen meer bruikbaar geweest, maar ja, als ze de bek niet opendoen....En Madeleine was toen 3jr en geen 4jr zoals de BBC meldt. Als laatst zegt Mr Ribeiro: "On Tuesday, Mr Ribeiro reportedly told Radio Renascenca that he regretted "what he said as well what he failed to say" publicly about the investigation." Nou wát zou hij daar nou mee bedoelen....

En wie is dan die nieuwe national director of the judicial police, Almeida Rodrigues? Niet echt van heel groot belang maar het is de eerste niet-magistraat die deze functie gaat bekleden:
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An operational one to front the PJ SOL
Ana Paula Azevedo
07 May 2008 (Thanks to 'SS' from the3arguidos forum for translation)

Almeida Rodrigues is the first non-magistrate chosen to lead the Judicial Police. The successor of Alípio Ribeiro is currently the national deputy sub-director of PJ’s Coimbra Directorate.

It is not the first time he assumes a leadership role, as he was one of the three national deputy directors to Santos Cabral, the head of the PJ immediately before Alípio Ribeiro. José Maria de Almeida Rodrigues, 49 years old, has a university degree in law and has made his career as an investigator. Through his hands passed some very public murder cases.

When, in 2001, he was heading Aveiro's PJ, he was the one in charge of the investigation of Tó Jó, the young man who murdered his parents inspired by satanic rituals. With the resignation of Santos Cabral, Almeida Rodrigues worked as number 2 of Coimbra's PJ. In those functions, he dealt with another multiple murder case – the GNR corporal Antonio Costa.

This case – which was known as "the serial killer of Santa Comba Dão" ended in the conviction of the corporal for the murder of two young women. More recently, he was involved in the arrest of "El Solitario", the Spaniard accused of violent robberies to more than 30 banks which caused the death of 3 people.

The nomination of Almeida Rodrigues to head the PJ was announced through a communiqué of the Ministry of Justice where it is referred that the minister "accepted the resignation request handed today by the national director of the PJ, Alípio Ribeiro".

Almeida Rodrigues, with Luis Neves current head of the Direcção Central de Combate ao Banditismo (DCCB) (Central Directorate of Combat to Banditism) was one of the names that, in the last hours, were considered by the government to replace Alípio Ribeiro, as had been stated to Lusa by a police source.

Magistrates: never again?

His name is highly regarded within the PJ, being the first time that an 'operational' is nominated to the top Job, up to now it has always been headed by magistrates. There is great expectation in the PJ as to who will be his deputies. The nomination of magistrates is dependent on the approval of the Judiciary and Public Ministry Superior Councils.

There is some speculation that these Councils may not accept that a judge or magistrate work under the orders of a career police officer. If that would be the case, it could be the end of the magistrates in the top echelons of the PJ. Only in 2001 a change in the law allowed for the possibility of a non-magistrate heading the PJ. With Almeida Rodrigues, it is the first time such a possibility is actually taken. Bron
Een man vanuit het veld, zak maar zeggen, acht weten we veel, als de gewone cop er blij mee is, wat zullen wij dan oordelen. Good luck...Almeida Rodrigues zal het nodig hebben!

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  woensdag 7 mei 2008 @ 18:05:55 #199
145755 kahaarin
You are my sunshine......
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Op woensdag 7 mei 2008 17:44 schreef Suko het volgende:

Hajo Kahaarin. Ha ha, altijd leuk jouw reacties/post te lezen. Nee geen echt nieuws. De BBC flikt het ook weer een aantal fouten te melden:
Hey Suko, jouw reacties lezen vind ik ook leuk hoor, een beetje meer inbreng van derden zou ook leuk zijn, we zijn het tenslotte bijna aldoor eens met elkaar.
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Dat was alleen te snel gedaan omdat je als Arguido niets meer hoeft te zeggen en dus vluchten ze vlak na het 'vonnis' het land uit, de McCanns waren als getuigen meer bruikbaar geweest, maar ja, als ze de bek niet opendoen....En Madeleine was toen 3jr en geen 4jr zoals de BBC meldt. Als laatst zegt Mr Ribeiro: "On Tuesday, Mr Ribeiro reportedly told Radio Renascenca that he regretted "what he said as well what he failed to say" publicly about the investigation." Nou wát zou hij daar nou mee bedoelen....
They keep spinning, over en weer, meer komt er ook echt niet naar buiten.
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En wie is dan die nieuwe national director of the judicial police, Almeida Rodrigues? Niet echt van heel groot belang maar het is de eerste niet-magistraat die deze functie gaat bekleden:

Een man vanuit het veld, zak maar zeggen, acht weten we veel, als de gewone cop er blij mee is, wat zullen wij dan oordelen. Good luck...Almeida Rodrigues zal het nodig hebben!
Dit lijkt me juist een goede ontwikkeling, deze man weet van wanten en zal ook niet onder de indruk zijn van politieke spelletjes, hij heeft tenslotte een vermissing op te lossen, ik zie het met hem wel positief in.
be nice or go away
  donderdag 8 mei 2008 @ 09:40:42 #200
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Voel je niet vergeten dames. Ik denk nog altijd aan Madeleine en het mysterie dat haar ouders zich zo autistisch gedragen. 'I think she will give her abductants their two pence worth' and ach dat oog was wel een risico maar 'a good marketing ploy which I couldn't resist."

De open brief van Joana Morais is me dan ook uit het hart gegrepen.
Here we are now, entertain us.
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