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Op woensdag 9 april 2008 10:02 schreef digitaLL het volgende:


Er staat xtra info bij de bron,
Dat het van de max tarieven uit gaat, waarom worden dan ook niet de extra belastingheffingen die je krijgt als je belastingen ontdoken hebt erbij opgeteld. Alleen al door de getrapte belastingschalen in nederland komt het niet voor dat je over al je inkomen die 52% betaald. Bij een niet getrapt belasting stelsel zonder aftrek posten betaald iedereen evenveel procentueel gezien en klopt de grafiek wel.

Normaal gesproken heb je wel heel intressante dingen te melden, maar deze grafiek gaat echt nergens over.
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Op woensdag 9 april 2008 10:35 schreef Basp1 het volgende:

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Dat het van de max tarieven uit gaat, waarom worden dan ook niet de extra belastingheffingen die je krijgt als je belastingen ontdoken hebt erbij opgeteld. Alleen al door de getrapte belastingschalen in nederland komt het niet voor dat je over al je inkomen die 52% betaald. Bij een niet getrapt belasting stelsel zonder aftrek posten betaald iedereen evenveel procentueel gezien en klopt de grafiek wel.

Normaal gesproken heb je wel heel intressante dingen te melden, maar deze grafiek gaat echt nergens over.
En 20% als BTW tarief, gewoon zonder nadenken bij die 52% opklappen. Zelfs al hadden we alleen dat tarief, dan nog mag je daar geen 20% voor nemen, maar 20% keer netto/bruto loon. (20% van 50% is 10% van 100%)

Maargoed, nu weer ontopic.
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Is de pond al door de 0.80 euro heen?
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 13:42:55 #214
38496 Perrin
Toekomst. Made in Europe.
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Op woensdag 9 april 2008 13:09 schreef Hertog_Martin het volgende:
Is de pond al door de 0.80 euro heen?
Close..



Britse pond op historisch dieptepunt
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LONDEN - Het Britse pond sterling is woensdag naar een historisch dieptepunt gedaald tegenover de euro met een stand van 1,25 euro. Daarmee is de Britse munt bijna 9 procent in waarde gedaald tegenover de euro sinds begin dit jaar.


[ Bericht 17% gewijzigd door Perrin op 09-04-2008 14:16:21 ]
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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Op woensdag 9 april 2008 10:23 schreef digitaLL het volgende:

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De enorme koersdaling van de dollar lijkt niet te leiden tot een grote daling in export naar de VS, ze stijgt zelfs nog met 8%. Het enige wat ik kan bedenken als verklaring is dat de VS zoveel geoutsourced heeft dat ondanks de voor hun hogere prijzen deze producten niet op de interne markt te verkrijgen zijn.
Wat ik op BNR had gehoord, is dat er vooral veel contracten vantevoren zijn afgesloten en dat het daarom in de komende periode pas gevoeld gaat worden, als er nieuwe contracten worden afgesloten.

High van de euro/pond is exact 0,8000
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Op woensdag 9 april 2008 10:23 schreef digitaLL het volgende:

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De enorme koersdaling van de dollar lijkt niet te leiden tot een grote daling in export naar de VS, ze stijgt zelfs nog met 8%. Het enige wat ik kan bedenken als verklaring is dat de VS zoveel geoutsourced heeft dat ondanks de voor hun hogere prijzen deze producten niet op de interne markt te verkrijgen zijn.
Erg grappig inderdaad. En al die ondernemers die veel naar Amerika exporteren maar klagen .
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 16:57:36 #218
66113 digitaLL
Dammit guess what
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De meeste amerikanen hebben qua loon niet geprofiteerd van de recente economische groei.

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The bigger problem is that the now-finished boom was, for most Americans, nothing of the sort. In 2000, at the end of the previous economic expansion, the median American family made about $61,000, according to the Census Bureau’s inflation-adjusted numbers. In 2007, in what looks to have been the final year of the most recent expansion, the median family, amazingly, seems to have made less — about $60,500.

This has never happened before, at least not for as long as the government has been keeping records. In every other expansion since World War II, the buying power of most American families grew while the economy did. You can think of this as the most basic test of an economy’s health: does it produce ever-rising living standards for its citizens?
NYT

En dat wrs berekend aan de hand van overheids inflatiecijfers. De amerikaanse consument heeft de groei van zijn bestedingen ergens anders vandaan getoverd. Dat kan haast alleen het ten gelde maken van de overwaarde van hun huizen geweest zijn. Nu is dat voorbij. De salarissen zijn lager dan in 2000, de inflatie stijgt. Vooruitzicht op hogere lonen is er evenmin. Ik geloof dan ook niet erg in een korte of ondiepe recessie. Maar begrijp nu des te meer de wanhope pogingen van de FED de huizenbubble niet verder leeg te laten lopen.
It is important to distinguish between a stupid person and a shit head. A stupid person simply can't process the information , a shit head is intelligent but his mind is full of garbage.
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 17:23:54 #219
59287 Grumpey
Het zonnetje in huis
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zijn de belastingverlagingen wel al meegeteld? Is van dat bedrag niet meer te besteden dan paar jaar geleden dankzij de verlagingen? (weliswaar voor rijken nog meer maar toch voor iedereen wel wat).
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 17:38:00 #220
66113 digitaLL
Dammit guess what
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Op woensdag 9 april 2008 17:23 schreef Grumpey het volgende:
zijn de belastingverlagingen wel al meegeteld? Is van dat bedrag niet meer te besteden dan paar jaar geleden dankzij de verlagingen? (weliswaar voor rijken nog meer maar toch voor iedereen wel wat).
Uit de bron;
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The tax code, meanwhile, has become far more favorable to high-income workers at the same time that they — and they alone — have received large pretax raises. That doesn’t make much sense, does it?
Het is dus een kleine groep rijkeren die vooral heeft geprofiteerd van die belastingverlagingen.
It is important to distinguish between a stupid person and a shit head. A stupid person simply can't process the information , a shit head is intelligent but his mind is full of garbage.
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 19:03:21 #221
89730 Drugshond
De Euro. Mislukt vanaf dag 1.
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Fed Weighs Its Options in Easing Crunch
wsj

WASHINGTON -- The Federal Reserve is considering contingency plans for expanding its lending power in the event its recent steps to unfreeze credit markets fail.

Among the options: Having the Treasury borrow more money than it needs to fund the government and leave the proceeds on deposit at the Fed; issuing debt under the Fed's name rather than the Treasury's; and asking Congress for immediate authority for the Fed to pay interest on commercial-bank reserves instead of waiting until a previously enacted law permits it in 2011.
The Issue: The Fed has sold or committed a lot of its Treasury portfolio to support markets. Some worry it will soon run out of room to do more.
• The News: The Fed is considering several contingency plans for getting more lending capacity so that won't happen.
• The Bottom Line: The Fed has lots of firepower left before it has to turn to these contingencies.

No moves are imminent because the Fed still has plenty of balance sheet room for additional lending now. The internal discussions are part of a continuing effort at the Fed, similar to what is under way at foreign central banks, to determine its options if the credit crunch becomes even more severe. Fed officials believe the availability of such options largely eliminates the risk of exhausting its stockpile of Treasury bonds and thus losing its ability to backstop the financial system, as some on Wall Street fear.

British and Swiss central banks also are contemplating contingency plans. For now, the European Central Bank is reluctant to consider options that require substantial modifications of its standard tools.

The Fed, like any central bank, could print unlimited amounts of money, but that would push short-term interest rates lower than it believes would be wise. The contingency planning seeks ways to relieve strains in credit markets and restore liquidity without pushing down rates.

The Fed is reluctant to heed calls from some Wall Street participants and foreign officials for the Fed to directly purchase mortgage-backed securities to help a market that still is not functioning normally.

Before the credit crunch began in August, the Fed had $790 billion in Treasury securities on its balance sheet, about 87% of its total assets. Since then, it has sold or lent about $300 billion. In their place, the Fed has made loans to banks and securities firms to assist them in financing holdings of mortgage-backed and other securities. Some on Wall Street say the potential for further declines in Fed treasury holdings could leave it out of ammunition.


The Fed holds assets to manage the nation's money supply and influence the federal-funds rate, which banks charge each other on overnight loans. When the Fed buys Treasurys or makes loans directly to banks, it supplies financial institutions with cash; in effect, it prints money. The cash ends up as currency in circulation or in banks' reserve accounts at the Fed.

Since reserves earn no interest, banks lend cash that exceeds their required minimum. That puts downward pressure on the federal funds rate, currently targeted by the Fed at 2.25%. The Fed could purchase securities and make loans almost without limit, expanding its balance sheet. That would cause excess reserves to skyrocket and the federal funds rate to fall to zero. The Fed would contemplate such "quantitative easing" only in dire circumstances. The Bank of Japan took this step this decade after years of economic stagnation.

Weighing the Possibilities

So the Fed is seeking ways to expand its balance sheet without causing the federal funds rate to drop. The likeliest option, one the Fed and Treasury have discussed, is for the Treasury to issue more debt than it needs to fund government operations. The extra cash would be left on deposit at the Fed, where it would be separate from bank reserves on deposit and thus would have no impact on interest rates. The Fed would use the cash to purchase an offsetting amount of Treasurys in the open market; for legal reasons, it generally cannot buy them directly from Treasury.

Treasury's principal constraint is the statutory limit debt. Treasury debt was $453 billion below the limit Monday. In the past, Congress always has responded to administration requests to raise the limit, sometimes only after political theatrics.

Fed officials also are investigating the feasibility of the Fed issuing its own debt and using the proceeds to purchase other assets or make loans. It has never done so; the legality is unclear. Some foreign central banks, such as the Bank of Japan, do so.

Another possibility is seeking congressional approval to pay interest on banks' reserves immediately instead of waiting until a 2006 law permits that in 2011. If the Fed paid, say, 2% interest on reserves, banks would have no incentive to lend out excess reserves once the federal funds rate fell to that level.

Congress put off the effective date because paying interest on reserves reduces the Fed profits that are turned over to the Treasury each year, widening the budget deficit. Although preliminary explorations suggest Congress would be open to accelerating the date, the Fed is leery of depending on action by Congress.

The Fed is inclined to use any additional maneuvering room to lend through its existing and recently expanded avenues. Officials are reluctant to buy mortgage-backed securities directly. They worry that such purchases would hurt the market for MBS that the Fed is not permitted to buy: those backed by jumbo and subprime and alt-A mortgages, which are under the greatest strain.

Moreover, the Fed is not operationally equipped to hold MBS and would probably have to outsource their management. Such holdings wouldn't help avert foreclosures much, since the Fed would have little control over the mortgages that comprise MBS.
Geeft een beetje een inkijk van waar de FED mee bezig is. Over dat TAF gebeuren..... banken hebben nog steeds meer geld nodig.
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 19:10:28 #222
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Dammit guess what
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Evt belastingheffing op munibonds kan extra klap aan kredietcrisis opleveren.
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Supreme Court Muni-Bond Delay Has Lawyers, Markets Puzzling

By Greg Stohr

April 9 (Bloomberg) -- Municipal-bond investors have a new question to ponder amid the turmoil in the $2.6 trillion market: What is taking the U.S. Supreme Court so long?

The court heard arguments Nov. 5 on the special tax breaks that 42 states provide to municipal bonds issued within their borders. At the time, many analysts and lawyers predicted a quick decision that would allow in-state exemptions and overturn a Kentucky court ruling that declared them unconstitutional.

Five months later, the bond market is still waiting -- and in some quarters wondering whether the holdup signals something other than a clear-cut victory for existing tax rules.

``The length of time to me means that there could be more subtlety to the decision, or that the decision itself might not be as cut-and-dried as we had expected,'' said Matt Fabian, managing director at Municipal Market Advisors, a Concord, Massachusetts-based research firm.

A ruling against Kentucky would force states to eliminate their tax exemptions for interest on in-state bonds -- or extend those breaks to out-of-state bonds. States would face billions of dollars in refund claims, and almost 500 single-state bond funds would lose much of their appeal.

Such a ruling might ripple through an already troubled bond market. Municipal bonds lost 0.82 percent in total return on average last quarter, their worst start since 1996, according to a Merrill Lynch & Co. index.

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Bloomberg
It is important to distinguish between a stupid person and a shit head. A stupid person simply can't process the information , a shit head is intelligent but his mind is full of garbage.
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 19:13:10 #223
78918 SeLang
Black swans matter
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£/ € = 1.2480
"If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans"
Mijn reisverslagen
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 19:18:59 #224
89730 Drugshond
De Euro. Mislukt vanaf dag 1.
  woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 20:06:32 #225
89730 Drugshond
De Euro. Mislukt vanaf dag 1.
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Op woensdag 9 april 2008 20:06 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
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Mooie prent
  FOK!-Schrikkelbaas woensdag 9 april 2008 @ 21:47:24 #227
862 Arcee
Look closer
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Op woensdag 9 april 2008 19:18 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
Oe.... nog een 0,5 ct voor de dollar.
Ja, ging vanmiddag ineens weer hard.
Never in the entire history of calming down did anyone ever calm down after being told to calm down.
  FOK!fotograaf donderdag 10 april 2008 @ 09:41:55 #229
18921 freud
Who's John Galt?
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Damn... Weer boeiend leesvoer. Heb een beetje het idee dat we in het oog van de storm zitten nu...
Ik nuf je seuk!
Ik hier?
If it's free, you're the product!
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Sodeju, daar donderden we toch even hard omlaag. En de futs in de VS staan niet eens zoveel lager. Europa dus dik een procent lager, vooral ook de financials (kredietcrisis is voorbij).

Vanmiddag ECB rentebesluit en uitkeringen + handelsbalans VS
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Op donderdag 10 april 2008 11:12 schreef indahnesia.com het volgende:
Er is helemaal niets voorbij, hoe hard sommigen ook roepen
Doh
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Op donderdag 10 april 200811:14 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
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Jeps
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Op donderdag 10 april 200811:14 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:

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Doh [afbeelding]
maar er zijn er genoeg die zichzelf voor de gek houden, nog altijd.
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Jezus wat gaan we hard in Europa???? CAC al op -1,7%
  donderdag 10 april 2008 @ 11:31:54 #239
55709 Stereotomy
Mens sana in corpore sano
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Geen directe aanleidingen voor deze bliep, of wel?

Misschien dat we volgende week de 1,60 nog halen dan.
Confidence through competence
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Op donderdag 10 april 200811:31 schreef Stereotomy het volgende:
Geen directe aanleidingen voor deze bliep, of wel?

Misschien dat we volgende week de 1,60 nog halen dan. [afbeelding]
bliep is zo'n beetje begonnen bij aanvang van handel in Europa. Dat is de reden
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