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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 07:43 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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Zou je het mij ook willen PBjen Rosite? Ik ben ook wel nieuwsgierig naar haar bevindingen.
zie je inbox
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wel forum heb je het over rosite ? en wie schrijft daar dan ?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Het is een maatschappij-kritische site en er worden heel veel onderwerpen behandeld, ik kom er graag. En deze maand is er naar aanleiding van deze zaak twee keer een artikel over geplaatst en allerlei mensen, waar onder Renee, reageren daar op. Dus niet een forum in de strikte zin van het woord. Ik heb voor mezelf voor 80% / 90% zekerheid dat het Renee is.
  † In Memoriam † zaterdag 1 maart 2008 @ 08:11:30 #79
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:05 schreef Rosite het volgende:

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Om het beeld van N. van geslaagde, keurige dochter op te zetten. Daar tegenover staat dus de mogelijkheid dat ze in de rehab heeft gezeten en dat ze weg gelopen is op Aruba.
Okay got it, thanx voor je PB trouwens.

Heb je die andere link ook bekeken met die foto's van Natalee van dezelfde site die jij hebt gegeven?
Ik ben niet labiel. Ik ben emotioneel flexibel.
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 07:14 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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You asked for a backup of this drinking story

Can you proof that Natalee has been drugged as reported by the ALE, PV'S, Classmates, other girls and Jorans Psycologist back in 2005? TIA
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Morning So where is the proof she was drunk before she dissapeared? You have talked about this countless times and you seem to be focusing on what Natalee drank before she went missing and it makes no sense at all!. We already talked about this the last two weeks and here you are posting it again and again.You are posting irrelevent information from one person and it has been known for 33 months that she drank on the trips and smoked a cigarette but where does it say she was drunk at Carlos and Charlies? Her friends said she barely drank at the bar and was not drunk. What does this have to do with her being drugged raped and murdered..I dont get it?


Yes I have posted a few things already in this forum about Joran drugging and sexually assaulting others before Natalee from those that would know.Quite a few people have stated it that are involved in this case. When I have some free time I will put it all together in one post as it's time consuming. When the KLPD took over that is one of the first things they mentioned that Joran drugged and raped others as well as the Holloway Family's lawyers when they tried to sue in civil court. Everyone that has followed this case knows Joran drugged girls and bragged about it,they even went to the police and nothing was done. A American girl even went to the FBI. Freddy was even arrested for having sex with a unconscious underage girl/and other things and JK2 were suspected of being apart of it. JK2 arrived 20-30 minutes before closing and Natalee had one drink from Joran and 20 minutes later was in and out of conscioussness. The bartender even saw two of the suspects basicly drag her out of the bar because she could barely walk,then held her by the elbow as they escorted her out of the the bar. Strange because before Joran gave her that drink she was perfectly fine as reported by everyone. She was most definetly drugged.

You can see my posts here as I have posted quite a few times about Joran drugging girls.. Even just a few posts ago in last thread I found a dutch article.

The preliminary investigation also showed that Joran van der Sloot previously abused girls against their will. "We came into contact with an ex-girlfriend that a therapist had opgebiecht that she was raped by Joran.


http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)Holloway.html?p=20,1
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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wat heb je toch met renee gielen ?
die roept al maanden dat ze een documentaire gaat maken ,maar dat schiet ook niet echt op .
op forums komt ze niet ,dat weet ik
en wat renee geprobeerd heeft is deze zaak van de andere kant te belichten maar daarvan is tot nu toe niet echt veel gelukt ..
zitten veel onwaarheden in
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Het is allemaal zojuist gepost door BwennieBren mister O. dus ik zou zeggen, lees het.
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:16 schreef johan555 het volgende:
wat heb je toch met renee gielen ?
die roept al maanden dat ze een documentaire gaat maken ,maar dat schiet ook niet echt op .

Ze zal de dingen naar buiten brengen als ze de zaak rond heeft en niet roepen "Opgelost" zoals de heer de Vries, zolang dat nog niet het geval is.

op forums komt ze niet ,dat weet ik

Verklaar je nader over hoe je tot deze kennis komt.

en wat renee geprobeerd heeft is deze zaak van de andere kant te belichten maar daarvan is tot nu toe niet echt veel gelukt ..
zitten veel onwaarheden in

Niet meer of minder onwaarheden dan wat we al weten. en ze is alles aan het chequen/dubbelchequen enz.
(neem ik aan)
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:03 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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oh dat wil ik wel lezen, heb jij misschien die link voor me waar je dat gelezen hebt?
Staat in het boek van mevrouw Holloway wat ik gister heb gehaald.

Het eerste hoofdstuk gaat over hoop en geloof, maar je broek zakt af van hoe het allemaal gegaan is, met name het gedrag van de politie en pa Van der Sloot.
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neem ik aan ja schrijf je !
dus je geloofd niks van wat joran allemaal verteld heeft op die tapes ?
dat ie maar 20 uur lang zit te fantaseren ? niet alles zal kloppen wat ie verteld heeft maar
z´n lichaamstaal is wel degelijk onderzocht ,door allerlei vooraanstaande typetjes .
Het doet hem gewoon geen fuck z´n verdwenen meisje ,als ie z´n WIETje maar heeft
over dat Wietje later meer !
pm je mij dat forum even en zet je je eigen inbox ook eens open ?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Rosite,

Dit is zo'n site.

http://www.nwo-info.nl/20(...)-aangehouden#commnts

Of bedoelde je deze?
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Ach, laat iedereen maar lezen op de sites die hij/zij wil lezen en de info aannemelijk vinden die hij/zij aannemelijk vindt. En verder mail ik met buddies en dat wil ik graag zo houden.
  † In Memoriam † zaterdag 1 maart 2008 @ 08:44:12 #88
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:12 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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Morning So where is the proof she was drunk before she dissapeared? You have talked about this countless times and you seem to be focusing on what Natalee drank before she went missing and it makes no sense at all!. We already talked about this the last two weeks and here you are posting it again and again.You are posting irrelevent information from one person and it has been known for 33 months that she drank on the trips and smoked a cigarette but where does it say she was drunk at Carlos and Charlies? Her friends said she barely drank at the bar and was not drunk. What does this have to do with her being drugged raped and murdered..I dont get it?


Yes I have posted a few things already in this forum about Joran drugging and sexually assaulting others before Natalee from those that would know.Quite a few people have stated it that are involved in this case. When I have some free time I will put it all together in one post as it's time consuming. When the KLPD took over that is one of the first things they mentioned that Joran drugged and raped others as well as the Holloway Family's lawyers when they tried to sue in civil court. Everyone that has followed this case knows Joran drugged girls and bragged about it,they even went to the police and nothing was done. A American girl even went to the FBI. Freddy was even arrested for having sex with a unconscious underage girl/and other things and JK2 were suspected of being apart of it. JK2 arrived 20-30 minutes before closing and Natalee had one drink from Joran and 20 minutes later was in and out of conscioussness. The bartender even saw two of the suspects basicly drag her out of the bar because she could barely walk,then held her by the elbow as they escorted her out of the the bar. Strange because before Joran gave her that drink she was perfectly fine as reported by everyone. She was most definetly drugged.

You can see my posts here as I have posted quite a few times about Joran drugging girls.. Even just a few posts ago in last thread I found a dutch article.

The preliminary investigation also showed that Joran van der Sloot previously abused girls against their will. "We came into contact with an ex-girlfriend that a therapist had opgebiecht that she was raped by Joran.


http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)Holloway.html?p=20,1
A good day to you

Counless times huh? Well as I remember only once, but you are welcome to quote in you next post my countless times I said Natalee was drunk

But let me see, how shall I put this... mmmm... start drinking in the morning Bacardi 151 with Diet coke. According to the statement of Ms Broughton, Natalee became intoxicated but they still continued drinking throughout the day. Then there was dinner between 6.00 and 7.00 and afterwards they went to the casino and Natalee switched to a mix drink containing Vodka. Later on she did bodyshots at C&C. We heard that Joran said on the cartape, Natalee wanted another Bacardi 151 and she took it in whole. Also they went to another bar inside C&C to take another jellyshot. So, if I put 1+1 together I would say..... TOTALLY WAISTED.

Now you say Natalee was drugged, raped and murdered. Do you have proof for that other than hearsay (bartender) and statements from girls who were with Joran in the past? Of course Joran could have drugged Natalee, even evreybody could have drugged Natalee at that night, but is it proven? They haven't found a body to examine, so it is still assumptions unless Joran says: I did it! And unfortunately he didn't say that
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:21 schreef kinkajoe het volgende:

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Staat in het boek van mevrouw Holloway wat ik gister heb gehaald.

Het eerste hoofdstuk gaat over hoop en geloof, maar je broek zakt af van hoe het allemaal gegaan is, met name het gedrag van de politie en pa Van der Sloot.
Have you read the book Kinkajoe? It was a very good read for people that want to learn about the case. What really hit me hard was Daves Book Corruption in Paradise..Maybe because I am a Man but it just kills me to see what that man went through. I will never ever forget him digging in that hell they called the dump in August 2006. A buisness man drove by and said to Greta the Family needs to shut up,get over it and go home

I didn't meet Beth and the book signing but I am happy I got a signed copy. Her and Dave have are huge inspirations to many Americans to never give up no matter what they are up against.

Beth and Stephanie Goode




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  † In Memoriam † zaterdag 1 maart 2008 @ 08:49:45 #90
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:21 schreef kinkajoe het volgende:

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Staat in het boek van mevrouw Holloway wat ik gister heb gehaald.

Het eerste hoofdstuk gaat over hoop en geloof, maar je broek zakt af van hoe het allemaal gegaan is, met name het gedrag van de politie en pa Van der Sloot.
Nee dankje ik hou mijn broek liever aan
Dat Dave Holloway, onheus is behandeld door de politie in Aruba, dat heb ik gelezen idd. Maar goed, ik geloof het wel hoor, maar het is natuurlijk een kant van het verhaal. Ik weet nog hoe Beth met Greta van Susteren voor het hek stond bij de Van der Sloot en hoe ze bij Deepak in de winkel kwam waar hij werkte. Staat dat ook in haar boek trouwens?
Ik ben niet labiel. Ik ben emotioneel flexibel.
  † In Memoriam † zaterdag 1 maart 2008 @ 08:55:33 #91
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Johan doe niet zo overstuur joh, iedereen mag toch lezen wat ie wilt. Kom op zeg! Makan man...
Ik ben niet labiel. Ik ben emotioneel flexibel.
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:44 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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A good day to you

Counless times huh? Well as I remember only once, but you are welcome to quote in you next post my countless times I said Natalee was drunk

But let me see, how shall I put this... mmmm... start drinking in the morning Bacardi 151 with Diet coke. According to the statement of Ms Broughton, Natalee became intoxicated but they still continued drinking throughout the day. Then there was dinner between 6.00 and 7.00 and afterwards they went to the casino and Natalee switched to a mix drink containing Vodka. Later on she did bodyshots at C&C. We heard that Joran said on the cartape, Natalee wanted another Bacardi 151 and she took it in whole. Also they went to another bar inside C&C to take another jellyshot. So, if I put 1+1 together I would say..... TOTALLY WAISTED.

Now you say Natalee was drugged, raped and murdered. Do you have proof for that other than hearsay (bartender) and statements from girls who were with Joran in the past? Of course Joran could have drugged Natalee, even evreybody could have drugged Natalee at that night, but is it proven? They haven't found a body to examine, so it is still assumptions unless Joran says: I did it! And unfortunately he didn't say that
I liked you better when you were actually researching something that was relevent to what happened to Natalee. I'M gonna believe her friends that were with her that night that said she didnt drink much and was not drunk at the bar but thanks for your efforts of slandering her. I am still waiting for proof she was drunk before she was drugged by Joran and what all your research has to do with her being drugged,raped and murdered? Dutch,Aruban and American Investigators have all come up with evidence she was mostly drugged and I will take there word for it since they did the research and interviews and have all stated the countless times he did this to others before he drugged and raped Natalee.
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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overstuur ?
waar haal je dat vandaan ?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:49 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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Nee dankje ik hou mijn broek liever aan
Dat Dave Holloway, onheus is behandeld door de politie in Aruba, dat heb ik gelezen idd. Maar goed, ik geloof het wel hoor, maar het is natuurlijk een kant van het verhaal. Ik weet nog hoe Beth met Greta van Susteren voor het hek stond bij de Van der Sloot en hoe ze bij Deepak in de winkel kwam waar hij werkte. Staat dat ook in haar boek trouwens?
No she did not mention much about that in her book about her meeting with Deepak in the cafe but she talked about it a great deal on TV. Did you know his step father bought that store in 2005?



"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
  † In Memoriam † zaterdag 1 maart 2008 @ 09:04:48 #95
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:56 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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I liked you better when you were actually researching something that was relevent to what happened to Natalee. I'M gonna believe her friends that were with her that night that said she didnt drink much and was not drunk at the bar but thanks for your efforts of slandering her. I am still waiting for proof she was drunk before she was drugged by Joran and what all your research has to do with her being drugged,raped and murdered? Dutch,Aruban and American Investigators have all come up with evidence she was mostly drugged and I will take there word for it since they did the research and interviews and have all stated the countless times he did this to others before he drugged and raped Natalee.
Observer it is the statement of Ms Broughton who stated that. NOT ME! And she is a friend of Natalee isn't she? And I also liked you better before you called everbody a troll who thins differently. I also wait for the proof of that she was drugged, raped and murdered, like you say in your posts hereabove: she was MOSTLY drugged... it is not fact see? Where are those statements of Joran that he drugged and raped Natalee? Gosh, Observer and don't give me that crap that you liked me before I ....because you did not. From the beginning you said I was a troll and put misinformation on this board and I had to go back to RU remember? Pffff...

Oh and it has nothing to do with Natalee disappearance but you asked how do we know Natalee drank from morning till night. Well from the statement of Ms Broughton
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  † In Memoriam † zaterdag 1 maart 2008 @ 09:05:40 #96
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:28 schreef johan555 het volgende:
neem ik aan ja schrijf je !
dus je geloofd niks van wat joran allemaal verteld heeft op die tapes ?
dat ie maar 20 uur lang zit te fantaseren ? niet alles zal kloppen wat ie verteld heeft maar
z´n lichaamstaal is wel degelijk onderzocht ,door allerlei vooraanstaande typetjes .
Het doet hem gewoon geen fuck z´n verdwenen meisje ,als ie z´n WIETje maar heeft
over dat Wietje later meer !
pm je mij dat forum even en zet je je eigen inbox ook eens open ?
hierom
Ik ben niet labiel. Ik ben emotioneel flexibel.
  † In Memoriam † zaterdag 1 maart 2008 @ 09:06:43 #97
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 09:03 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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No she did not mention much about that in her book about her meeting with Deepak in the cafe but she talked about it a great deal on TV. Did you know his step father bought that store in 2005?

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Nope, but I do now
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 08:48 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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Have you read the book Kinkajoe?
I started reading the book. It is very shocking to read the way Joran's father reacted to Nathalee's mother the first evening she was on Aruba and the way the police reacted. Very, very suspicious.
I do not know what I can and what I cannot write.

The book says in Dutch:
"Niets in deze uitgave mag worden verveelvoudig en/of openbaar gemaakt, door middel van druk, fotokopie, microfilm, digitale bestanden of op welke andere wijze ook, zonder voorafgaande schriftelijke toestemming van Just Pusbishers BV, Hilversum".'

Eerst zeggen die jongens dat ze Nathalee hebben afgezet bij het Holiday in, en als dan later blijkt dat veel studenten 's nachts buiten waren en niets hebben gehoord, veranderen ze hun verhaal.
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 09:13 schreef kinkajoe het volgende:

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I started reading the book. It is very shocking to read the way Joran's father reacted to Nathalee's mother the first evening she was on Aruba and the way the police reacted. Very, very suspicious.
I do not know what I can and what I cannot write.

The book says in Dutch:
"Niets in deze uitgave mag worden verveelvoudig en/of openbaar gemaakt, door middel van druk, fotokopie, microfilm, digitale bestanden of op welke andere wijze ook, zonder voorafgaande schriftelijke toestemming van Just Pusbishers BV, Hilversum".'

Eerst zeggen die jongens dat ze Nathalee hebben afgezet bij het Holiday in, en als dan later blijkt dat veel studenten 's nachts buiten waren en niets hebben gehoord, veranderen ze hun verhaal.
Joh zet het gewoon neer, waarom zou dat niet mogen? Het is wat anders als je het hele boek kopieert en inscant en hier neerzet... hoewel
Ik ben niet labiel. Ik ben emotioneel flexibel.
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Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 09:04 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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Observer it is the statement of Ms Broughton who stated that. NOT ME! And she is a friend of Natalee isn't she? And I also liked you better before you called everbody a troll who thins differently. I also wait for the proof of that she was drugged, raped and murdered, like you say in your posts hereabove: she was MOSTLY drugged... it is not fact see? Where are those statements of Joran that he drugged and raped Natalee? Gosh, Observer and don't give me that crap that you liked me before I ....because you did not. From the beginning you said I was a troll and put misinformation on this board and I had to go back to RU remember? Pffff...
For the last time there is no proof--zero that Natalee was drunk before she dissapeared. All of her friends said she didn't drink much and appeared fine at the bar. Dont play games you have seen at least a dozen posts of mine that stated Joran drugged and raped others before Natalee. There is plenty more more proof that he did it before and what he did to Natalee in the car,you should go back and read my posts if you missed them. Of course its not a fact she was drugged or even that she is dead as they don't have it on camera him putting drugs in her drink or do they have her body. We can play the FACT game all day long here and we both know its a waste of time. The evidence is overwhelming that he most likely drugged and raped her,everyone knows that.

I do see a difference between you and supergirl and rosite and one or two others and I am sorry but I am clueless why you spend so much time on something that is irrelevent in helping solve this case. Why aren't you researching the main suspects instead of the victim? Whatcha gonna research next? So many things to look into..What do you think of Lorenzo Van Rijn? Red Herring or someone that should be looked into more?

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